By Bowman Lusambo-MMD Die Hard National Youth Coordinator
UPND SHOULD CONSIDER DROPPING HH TO ADOPT NATIONAL CHARACTER
We have restrained ourselves from commenting on the raging war of words between the MMD and UPND leadership. Clearly the aggressor in this war has been the UPND. In line with party policy, the MMD Die Hard Youth Wing resisted great temptation to weigh in on the debate. We have however been compelled to react to some rather unfortunate attacks levelled against some of the leaders of our grouping.
During Dr Nevers Sekwila Mumba’s appearance on Joy FM Platform radio programme on Thursday, many paid for UPND members took advantage of the open line to attack us and disparage our work. We have now being left with no choice but to respond and put a few issues into context.
Firstly, the MMD Die Hard Youth Wing has never insulted Hakainde Hichilema. We have been on record raising some critical questions about Mr Hichilema’s suitability to hold the republican presidency. We believe our duty to scrutinize and raise questions about whoever is running for the presidency is genuine and is done as a noble service to our great nation. We will continue raising critical issues against Mr Hichilema and any other contestants we feel has some explaining to do for the benefit of Zambians.
How does asking Mr Hichilema to account for his role in the RAMCOZ privatization saga amount to insults? We want to put it on record that our level of debate does not have room for insults. We only raise critical issues for the greater good of Zambia.
From the radio programme, one gets a feel of how the UPND is governed and structured. The UPND members somehow believe that they have the inherent right to rule Zambia after 2016. Well, we have some news for them, 2016 is far from decided. Mr Hichilema is but a mere contestant in the race and as the MMD, we will approach him as such.
As MMD youths, we will continue to offer checks and balances across the political spectrum. We will not shy away from raising alarm when we feel the sovereignty and all that is good about this great nation is under threat.
We believe that the UPND under Mr Hichilema remains a tribal and regional clique. History does not in any way help the UPND in its cause to launder the party off its tribal image.
The tribal tag is well entrenched in the UPND. We have not forgotten how Mr Hichilema presided over a tribal coupe d’état following the death of the great Anderson Kambela Mazoka. Mr Hichilema sponsored a tribal wing to categorically state that only a Tonga will rule the UPND. Unless they have forgotten but we will not stop reminding them that Zambians from that point decided not to vote for the UPND and that marked the decline in fortunes for the UPND.
When we recite these events, we are not picking a fight with the UPND. We are not insulting Mr Hichilema or its leadership. What we are doing is merely reciting history which unfortunately the UPND cannot undo.
Our humble advice for the UPND is to drop Mr Hichilema as its leader and choose a non-Tonga leader as a way of cleansing itself. As far as many Zambians are concerned, the UPND will remain a regional and highly tribal grouping as long as its led by a Tonga because of the manner in which he assumed that position.
Ati by Bowman Lusambo-MMD Die Hard National Youth Coordinator.
Weak article
One wonders how one or two tongas could have influence delegates with equal representation from all nine provinces of Zambia to vote for HH at the 2006 UPND convention. Why didn’t the none tongas at that 2006 convention vote otherwise? Is there something we are missing here or the whole tribal trash was a PF & MMD stonge age political ploy to disadvantage a political competitor.
Lusambo bloody money are eating from PF is confusing,,,,.,,,,,,, telll your sick and old masters in PF to retire,,,, leave HH alone
Lusambo, keep on keeping on dreaming. Ni HH for life.
Lusambo is a little man afraid of HH’s growing influence across Zambia.
Lusambo just eat PF’s money quietly and stop the verbal diarrhoea . he more you rant the more you make HH popular.
If HH did anything wrong, surely Sata would have spared him. He offered professional advice and got paid for it just like Chipimo and others.
Valentine Chitalu , Sata and the late Chiluba are the men to ask what happened to privatisation money.
UPND is a tribal and regional party by its constitution, it states that the president shall be from Southern Province hence Sakwiba Sikota failed to qualify for the presidency. Life is a learning experience it never stops, HH and UPND should learn to constantly refine their political habits.
Lusambo has just hit the nail on the UPND head where it hurts most. All Zambians know about it , they say it and heard it when UPND said ‘ ONLY A TONGA CAN LEAD UPND’. Any way it is a bitter pill to swallow but you can apologize to Zambians may be they can forgive you.
But where did HH come from? He was no where in the UPND leadership corridors when Mazoka died. I feel the Tongas had to find someone from the con caves to take over from Mazoka, leaving an automatic candidate (Sikota) in the cold because of being non-tonga. I am Tonga myself, but this still puts me off to this day!!!
BOMAN IS RIGHT.THE FREEMASON HH DOES NOT MEAN WELL TO UNPD AND TO ZAMBIA.NEVER GIVE A CHANCE TO THE DEVIL TO RULE YOU.HE WILL ONLY COME TO KILL,STEAL OR DESTOYE YOU.YOU NEED A GOD FEARING PERSON TO RULE THIS CHRISTIAN NATION IN THE NAME OF JESUS…
Well said Bowman
I have always advocated, suggested, and implored UPND leadership to be bold and rise above tribal and regional politics being advanced by their nondescript leader at the detriment of the entire party.
Many times i have called for the removal of HH as he has not added any value to the once vibrant party.
Remove the impediment and move forward or you will eternally be an opposition party.
Mr. Die hard, you need to tone down on your hate for HH. HH did a professional job. The Zambian government was not dumb and stupid to have accepted the expert works HH did for then. I would advise you to shut up and talk less about things you do not understand. What national character are you talking about? YOUR concept of ‘national character’ seems weird and neither here nor there. Anyway even your analysis of the whole issue is shallow.
Much as i don’t like this dude but am sorry on this one i’ve to agree with what he’s said. HH will have to wait for everyone who was mature enough at the time of his ascendancy to his position to die or become very old that they can’t lift a voters card because i’m afraid the tribal tag will keep on coming back. All his talk of “o i did not chose to be born a Tonga blah blah” everytime he’s reminded of tribalism in his party is cheap and will never improve his situation. The least he can do is to admit that he did not beat Saki fairly and squarely and to openly condemn characters like Sejani, Mwananjiti etc that campaigned for him on tribal lines.
Finally, next time you decide to hold a convention to chose your leaders please chose a venue anywhere you like but Southern…
Just wondering really. Is HH the first ever Presidential candidate to have some allegations against him? No. Definitely not. Dr. Mumba, MMD, was alleged to have misapplied funds during his tenure as High Commissioner to Canada while the current Head of State was alleged to have inappropriately handled the Merzaf building project. If indeed these leaders had committed these offences the parties in government would never have left them alone. Do you really think the PF would have left HH alone if there was an iota of truth in the allegations concerning RAMCOZ?? Definitely not. Sister Libongani and Dr Jere would have gladly seized him and thrown him in the infamous Kamwala Remad death trap a long time ago. So, Mr Lusambo, you are just chewing out sour grapes. Leave the young Tonga bull alone.
Please ignore all the free masonry scare tactics and the name callers, it seems they are obsessed with those views and that is the only postings they have. May they encounter the God of love John 3:16 and start winning the lost for Christ.
Lusambo ukanyela. Masipa a hao
Is it NOT A FACT THAT people like Mwanajiti,Mwadenkuku and Sejani said that UPND should be led by a Tonga?The UPND Vice President then was Sakwiba Sikota.Why was Saki not confirmed in the position?
Personally,I feel that UPND still has a chance to remove this tribal tag during their next Convention where all positions including that of President should be open to all members in good standing with the Party.
The people on the copperbelt are suffering while he is living in their house in Kabulonga.That is a Ramcoz House,How do you make a sale to your self.The selfish despicable man is shameless ,he should have declared interest.
He wants to be president so he can continue the looting.
@ndobo just contribute not the nonsense you are writing.ITS YOU THAT SHOULD LEAVE THE PRESIDENT ALONE.
WELL, IT MAY BE WEAK BUT THE TRUTH REMAINS THAT HH IS A ROTTEN EGG IN UPND AND MESSING UP ALL THE EGGS IN THE BASKET. AND THE ADVICE IS THAT GET RID OF THAT ROTTEN EGGS TO FREE THE FRESH EGGS FROM HH’S STENCH. THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL IN BLACK AND WHITE. THE ABOVE IS HOW ALL (THOSE NOT IN UPND) ZAMBIANS FEEL ABOUT UPND. IT CLEAR SINCE THE INCEPTION OF HH UPND HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME IN POPULARITY. ITS POPULARITY HAS PLUMMETED LIKE A TON OF BRICKS DROPPED FROM THE SKY. HH HAS A CORRUPT MIND IN ANY WAY ONE THINKS. AT LEAST IT’S NOT THE RULING PART AT WAR WITH UPND BUT THEIR FORMER BED MATES.
Zambia needs some one who understands exactly what needs to be done to develop. HH meets that profile.
This Kaonde man he never seems to amaze me with his wild statements using an illegal wing in MMD.All his statement is a hired gun even youths in MMD cannot take him serious just like his hollow and short sighted statements attacking leaders with National character.
Lusambo, you are not real. Get a life and start engaging constructively and above all you should show some intelligence too.
But where did HH come from? He was no where in the UPND leadership corridors when Mazoka died. I feel the Tongas had to find someone from the con caves to take over from Mazoka, leaving an automatic candidate (Sikota) in the cold because of being non-tonga. I am Tonga myself, but this still puts me off to this day!!!
YOU WISH. THE BOY IS STILL IN NAPPIES HOW CAN HE BE. THERE MANY EVEN IN UPND, THOUGH. ONLY OVER SHADOWED BY THE FACT WHO BANKROLLS THE PARTY. THERE’S A HANDFUL OF UPND MEMBERS WHO CAN BE VERY GOOD NATIONAL LEADERS. BUT, THEY FEAR VOICING OUT FOR THE FEAR OF LOSING THE ONE WHO SPONSORS PARTY ACTIVITIES. THEY ALL THINK REMOVING HH FROM PARTY PRESIDENCY IS REMOVING A PIG BANK FROM THE PARTY. SO, NO ONE WANTS TO TOUCH THAT ISSUE, FOR THAT WILL BE THE POSSIBLE DEMISE OF UPND, THEY THINK.
How about PF dropping Sata to salvage its fast dimming chances for 2016 elections? Now that’s a far more weightier matter to be considered than wasteful write ups on UPND and HH.
IF YOU ARE LIVING OVERSEAS AND YOU DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT IS TAKING PLACE IN ZAMBIA, AND IN THE HABIT OF READING THESE SOCIAL NETWORK PAPERS- WELL, YOU HAVE GOT WRONG NEWS FOR YOURSELF. PF ARE CONSTRUCTING ROADS EVEN WHERE YOU NEVER DREAMED OF. THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS GETTING CONNECTED AND VERY SOON THERE WILL BE NO DUST ROAD IN ZAMBIA. AND YOU THINK THEY CAN VOTE FOR ANOTHER PARTY? YOU ARE JOKING. PEOPLE ARE NOW VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE TO UNDERSTAND THEY WILL SUFFER A LITTLE WHILE THE GOVT SPENDS ON IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY UNDERSTAND BETTER THAN YOU IN THE US.
This Bowman; what else does he do other than dreaming about how to insult HH kanshi? It is people like you who are trying hard to remind the people of whatever was said at that time of HH’s ascending to power, but your voice is getting dimmer and dimmer! Why is it that everytime anyone really has nothing to criticise UPND on, they rush to this regional, tribal nonsense? I would have long believed all the crap if HH himself had said what is always preached by the Pastor and Bowman, and the Post – as was the case of MCS uttering the 90 days prophesies!
Sir , it does not matter who said it so long its coming from UPND. All Zambians saw it when the UPND was cerebrating that ” ONLY A TONGA CAN LEAAD UPND”
This Kaonde should eat his PF money with his master Nevers and leave UPND alone. You can’t win by singing the same song that as an illiterate you can not understand. This HH has the support of Sata and all well meaning Zambias.
We need to move forward as a country and HH for now is the man. It is unfortunate that MCS will be handing over while unwell but he would have loved to see Zambian’s leadership taken over by brains and not a tribalist like this MMD Kaonde toilet cleaner. No wonder his ancestors were given the role of picking toilet buckets.
Stay away from UPND before you commit suicide.
UPND have to do a lot of rebranding by condemning and disassociating themselves from the statement that was meant. They could state that it was made in the individuals capacity and reflects the individuals opinion but does not reflect the Party’s stance, views, opinion and practices. UPND also need to work on the violence relating to retaliation, people may have second thoughts because if violence of retaliation have started before being in power what will happen when they are in power. PF and MMD are not an exception. At least PF started showing violence after winning , they were not retaliating even after being provoked by MMD. MMD’s statement on self defense is an equal concern. Zambia needs peaceful parties. God bless Zambia.
TRULY, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHO SAYS IT. WHAT MATTERS IS THAT NON TONGAS WERE BARRED FROM CONTESTING THE PRESIDENCY. SO, THIS IS WHAT IS HAUNTING HH AND OTHER INNOCENT TONGAS WHO NEVER MINDED WHO LEADS THE PARTY. THE OTHER ISSUES ARE HH’S DARK DEALS HAS WE ARE LEARNING FROM THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIS PAST BETTER. SUDDENLY, EVERY SECRET ABOUT HH’S WEALTH WILL NO LONGER BE A SECRET. IT WILL BE IN PUBLIC DOMAIN. SO, THE BEST IS TO ELECT SOMEONE WITH A CLEAN TRIBAL AND FRAUDULENT RECORD TO SAVE THE PARTY. DON’T SAVE AN INDIVIDUAL, SAVE AN INSTITUTION.
What can Lusambo offer? Let him concentrate on bringing together his defunct party. Leave HH alone. He is the next President of the Republic of Zambia. Who doesnt know that? U are still living in the past and still slumbering. Wake up check out the new culture. We do not want dunderheads to rule this country again. This time around we are going for intellect.
UPND CAN BARRY THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND. BUT, WHEN THEY DECIDE TO EXHUME THEIR HEADS THEY WILL STILL FIND THEIR ISSUES AROUND. NOT DISAPPEARED.
Tongas are not bad people, the only problem is that hh thinks too much of himself and only himself. The moment he is going to realize that someone can take over upnd the better.
We would also appreciate if a Tonga, Lozi or Kaonde can take over PF rather than a northerner, or Luapulan.
How about you considering dropping your Bemba MMD president so that we vote for a Lozi Chokwe, Lunda, Luvale or who ever other than a bemba? Sounds good does it? That is your line of thinking which is not in line.
MMD has had Chiluba, Levy, Ruphia and now Mumba surely its more than just about tribe. HH is a good person but I think he has around him people who can sell better as candidates and the party he belongs to could stand a good chance of taking top place as it is the votes will be split yet again in 2016 and MMD and UPND will cry a river once again. PF is building a huge ask for itself and am sure they will not go to a convention to anoint another leader, 2016 will be messy
HH is the only credible leader the opposition has today.
He has foresight,is educated,is young and has vibrant ideas.
Zambians need to be serious to elect leaders for developmental issues not clowns who are only there to pass time and amass wealth.
Sir, that’s what you always say that HH would take plot 1. But what happens is that HH always loses and come 2016 he will lose again. HH is a political under dog sir.
THE I’NGOMBE ILEDE CHAPS ARE UNDER DEMONIC SPELL.THESE CHAPS CAN T SEE THAT THIS HH IS A DEVIL READY TO REMOVE THE TAG CHRISTIAN NATION FROM ZAMBIA?GOD FORBID IN JESUS NAME
Sorry he’s not young anymore, we need someone in their 40s now like Obama and Cameron when they took up leadership of their countries.
Shocking MMD now speaks through its violent youth leader Bowman Lusambo.
According to PF government MMD was corrupt, sold that opinion to Zambians and MMD lost elections on that basis. What has changed?. We know PF government believe Nevers Mumba MMD leader misappropriated government money while in Canada and some MMD MPs lost corruption court cases as proof that MMD has a huge job to rid itself of corruption which Lubambo does not address. To jump on HH for actions of MMD then who took decisions as government to which HH did not belong is extraordinary and self delusion. More also to come from nonentity Lusambo underpins MMD indiscipline going on in MMD.
Sir, HH was a Zambian who should have protected the interests of poor Zambians, but he joined the thieves in looting the Zambian resources through horrible privatization. He should have brown a whistle to Zambians, but since he was benefiting he kept quiet. All Zambians know that HH got his riches through thieving privatization.
Truth Hates; may you inform us the meaning of PF Lusaka convention when Chikwanda was addressing the proceedings in Bemba? In case you have less analytical skills, here is free help. Chikwanda was informing the nation and the world at large that PF was effectively a Bemba party and a family affairs hence the support to his nephew Mulenga Sata. That is a tribal party at its best there for you to refer as a standard of tribal politics.
Just shut up booo whatever u are! MMD is gone just like PF its time we try UPND.HH is a good man.
Go ahead and support UPND like you’ve done since it was formed.
Since we are told time and again that Mazoka’s UPND had a national character, why didn’t the other tribes gang up against the so called tonga tribal wing to vote for Sikota or anybody else? Lusambo is just a useful ***** hired to stir up tribal feelings. Zambians have moved on from that tribal trash, HH is on the rise whether you like it or not.
Sir where were you when the thugs in UPND were barring Sikota saying ONLY A TONGA CAN RULE UPND? All Zambians saw it and this tag will remain on UPND and HH. It will not help you what you say sir just be a man and face reality.
I need you to answer one simple question: did the so called tonga tribal wing force all the delegates who were at the 2006 UPND convention to vote for HH? Think about it in this simple way, if the same group of tribal tongas went to attend the PF or MMD convention and declared that only a tonga should lead the parties, would delegates from other tribes agree? Are you insinuating that only tonga delegates were allowed at that UPNDconvention? If that is the case then why are pretending that Mazoka had a national appeal? Do you now see the hypocrisy in your statement?
Don’t deceive HH and UPND into believing that they are popular or else you are in for another heavy defeat come 2016.At 18% current popularity UPND may take many years to reach 27% it reached during the reign of late Anderson Mazoka.
Ever heard of the saying that ‘ a day is a long time ‘ in politics. Political dynamics can swing swiftly within a short time. You can continue wallowing in past statistics if you so wish….we are forward looking and we will continue selling our candidate HH for a better Zambia
@zed patriot surely you are not comparing AKM and HH? Andy was a perfect gentleman, charismatic with much appeal and charm he had blended the corporate world with politics almost effortlessly. Ah the President we never had, MHSRIEP.
Bowman, what would it benefit you or MMD if UPND had a national character? Leave UPND matters to UPND. You are a party sliding on a very slippery political slope.
I am not Tonga but actually the fact that HH is Tonga and not Bemba makes him a far more attractive presidential candidate to me than the uninspiring bald headed Bemba pastor. The future peace and stability of the country is dependent on all sectors of the population believing that they have a stake in the country and that there are no second, third or fourth class citizens. What Lusambo is suggesting is tantamount to barring ANY TONGA, and not just HH from aspiring to be president of the republic of Zambia which is utter and complete hogwash especially given that we are in the second decade of the 21st century! Any Zambian man or woman with progressive ideas that will propel the country forward should be able to aspire for the presidency regardless of the region he or she hails from.
I ask myself wither to my compatriots? So today to be a Tonga, is the sole cause to lose constitutional liberties of ZED? I say, let my people go. Hive off North Western Rhodesia from those whose hegemony has made them demonic.
This is no longer about HH but the whole Tonga people, and we of that stock cannot and must not be silent in inaction.
Ailile ngoma yabukali………..nobalombwanama…..
Sir @siamanengo, are you denying the fact that the whole Zambia saw the UPND cadres saying only ‘ A TONGA CAN LEAD UPND’? and Sikota was very much humiliated at the convention? man just be a man and face reality. Tell your people to apologize to Zambians period.
@Truth Hates.
Are the people from the North, the Zambians you speak for? I offer ZERO apologise to the congolese. Aren’t these people from Ituli forest who offered HH less than 2% of their total votes. Zwa……..!!
As for me, I dont need no monkey eater, perhaps HH who wants to go to State House can be buttered by you. Not Sir Siamanengo…..mulombwanamwinimwini.
Just think of how you will sort out that ka Muhabi Lungu who will take your MMD nowhere the chap is only there to get a salary and post silly things on ZWD.
Lusambo, you have hit the nail on the head of UPND. These guys were cerebrating when they said only a Tonga can rule UPND. They want to pretend they did not say that. ….hehehe…all Zambians saw it , and that marked the destruction of UPND. May be what they can do is to apologize to Zambians otherwise the ONLY A TONGA CAN RULE UPND remains clear to all Zambians.
Peace and Prosperity to Mother Zambia.
LOL. You are a confused chap. If anything bringing up this uselezs subject is in itself inciting tribalism. Lost and confused and simple minded. A vuvuzela needs brains to be heard clearly otherwise it goes phweeettetee….parp. Grow up. Childish behavior.
So annoying,so to this man Tonga is tribal,so tongas should not contest for presidency?foolish Bowman.
The truth pains#one BL
MMD is long gone. Watch the space. The first sign of death of MMD is having an illegal MMD along the Mumba MMD. Watch UPND as we go to Mangango nd Solwezi central/ Where is MMD in Mangango if it has a national character
TONGA’S ARE OUR BELOVED BROTHERS WHO ARE PART OF THIS GREAT CHRISTIAN NATION.THE PROBLEM IS THE DEVIL CALLED FREEMASON HH IN UNPD,THE PROBLEM IN PF IS KABIMBA AND LIKE THE PAST PROBLEM IN MMD WAS KACHINGWA…THESE EVIL PIPO SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN CHANCE TO RULE THIS NATION
Did HH evaluate RAMCOZ,sue this chap HH
Sir @ fairness and Justice, do you think a person with a degree can be so dull as to leave tracks in his corruption route? Do you think HH could leave tracks of evidence? no sir, you are mistaken. What these guys were doing is to under value the assets while cutting great deals with the buyers. These are the riches we see to day with these guys who privatized our companies. They are terrible thieves.
But where did HH come from? He was no where in the UPND leadership corridors when Mazoka died. I feel the Tongas had to find someone from the con caves to take over from Mazoka, leaving an automatic candidate (Sikota) in the cold because of being non-tonga. I am Tonga myself, but this still puts me off to this day!!!
Honestly, Lusaka Times could do better. How do you publish such poorly article.
Sir, I think you are very mistaken. The article is so great as it has hit the nail on the Head of UPND and HH. They thought preaching only ‘A TONGA CAN LEAD UPND” would not back fire on them. It has and they are very disturbed. Let them just appologise to Zambians period.
I’ve just realised that there are only two people that keep posting the same messages over and over; Hachigabalala ‘Bwalya’ and Truth hates ‘Musonda’. Now listen and listen very carefully: Christon Tembo’s FDD party had all its seats in Eastern Province with about 2 in Lusaka. Did you label them tribal? No you didn’t. National Party was headed by Inonge and later on Mulemba. Did you label the tribal? Yes!! The founder members of UPND were a cross-section of Zambians but the leader was tonga. Did you label them tribal? YES. In short any party headed by a Tonga, Lozi or Northwesterner is tribal by default while those headed by northerners, Luapulans and easterners are ‘National’. Summary: UPND Tonga – Tribal, PF Bisa -not tribal, MMD under Levy – Tribal, MMD under Mumba – not…
Honestly, Lusaka Times could do better. How do you publish such poorly written article.
bowman naeve… he is trying to be important in politics,,
The problem with the UPND spicies is that,they don’t know the Power of the Right Foundation.You can not buiild anything strong on a weak and wrong foundation.That STATEMENT made by HH sponsored SEJANI,that:UPND WILL NEVER BE LED by NON-TONGA,is a WRONG FOUNDATION to seriously be delt with,otherwise HH and UPND Spices are building in vein.Lusambo’s views can be dismissed but it’s a FACT.TRIBAL IMAGE IN UPND is so much entrenched.UPND Politics is just WIND and very soon the wind shall come down and reality shall dawn on these strange and queer UPND Spicies.
Sir, cast your tribal demons away! Promoting tribal division will not help your party to bounce back. MMD has proved to be a party composed of useful PF political id1ots.
bowman or boloman hallucinating. kanonga ebo…
LT at it again Vuvuzela for PF. I can see very soon people will shift away from eccessing you. Learn from the POST. However, Bowman is a l unatic who does not deserve any space on any online media. Mumba denied ever sponsoring Bowman but he is still at it again. This means that Mumba himself is not truthful. UPND has become a party to recorn with in the Zambian political arena thus can no longer be ignored. PF has failed to accuse HH of any wrong doing that is the reason they are bringing the issue of privitazation. How can an individual dupe the whole government which Sata was part of it? HH is the man of the moment no matter the tribe!
Sir, Lusaka Times is the only credible on line news media which can not be compared to the UPND ZWD. The problem you have is that you want only PF to be criticized. When articles against UPND are presented, then you call Lusaka Times PF vivuzela. Please spare us from your biasness. LT is great coz it always balances articles, that’s why we are here ….not the ZWD which is only for UPND cadres . ZWD blocks those who blog against HH and UPND. Be ashamed sir.
And so ZWD is HH UPND vuvuzela here,you can even post your comment,your tribal online media ZWD does not allow divergent views.
Its becoming tiring and boring to hear surrogates of Bemba led political parties throwing tribal mud at UPND and hoping it sticks.Facts are that they are ganging up on UPND because there is now a serious threat to their continued hold on power and treasury looting and corruption and its a world thy are unprepared for.Whipping up tribal sentiments every time you run out of ideas will not convince the rest of the to stand with you.Soon the Bemba block risks alienating themselves from the rest of the country with their tribal mantra.After all its more with their actions than words they can be judged upon
No one should be judged by tribe but by character.
Mr. Lusambo is right and don´t you be stupid. Look at hh´s history also compare between Mr. Mazoka, a good politician and to that hh, a donkey. 17? percents(2011) from 28 percents vote(2001). Please consider this. If not then you are really %**Ä`?=)&/ and mark my words that in 2016 upnd will be downed again before you throws out hh to hell. You remembers this then Amen!
Do not mislead yourselves, if Anderson was popular, how many counsilors, how many MPs did Mchinga, Luapula, Nothern and Copperbelt provinces go to UPND under yo so called great leader? Keep that crap to yourself foolish Lusambo and concertrate on building your MMD.
Ba MMD chabe!!
They used to sing the same song about Sata, we have heard that before where they would advice PF to dump Sata and choose another leader to increase their chances of winning elections.
Imagine Mourinho choosing the starting line up for Wenger in the game between Chelsea and Arsenal. No sane person would expect Mourinho to include Sanchez, Ramsey, Ozil, Wilshire in the Arsenal team
People claiming that upnd and heka heka will be in state house after the 2016 polls are not in zambia.I am in zambia right now on the copperbelt to specific,talking to people from different age groups and background most of them are of the view that pf should be given another chance.the so called social media is deceiving some people,not everyone at chimwemwe or masala market ve access to the internet.
Thus says Dr. Nevers Sequila Mumba. Those are the words of our double tongued reverend
Zambians are forgiving persons. Some supporters of UPND might have made mistakes in the past but party cannot be hold at ransom. People should judge it of what UPND stands now. Sata also started as tribal party with only PF MPs from one region. Who is more tribal, PF and UPND? Look at PF appointments. Family tree. why dwell on the past when tribal party is busy practising tribal politics.
Lusambo, you are firing in the wrong direction.
Ba Monze;
I wonder why you just couldnt resit the temptation of having to drag PF and President Sata into this fight. This is on Lusambo and the way he perceives UPND; which I believe could be countered without making mention of PF or Sata.
Please stick to defending yourself on the allegation from Bowman. I see you are a very intelligent Zambian would has reasons for why you feel Lusambo’s opinion is not what you’d subscribe to. After all, that is coming from Lusambo (maybe MMD) himself, and NOT from PF (and Sata).
Where possible, kindly respond with your intellect directly to Bowman Lusambo … so we learn from it as your fellow Zambians; and for the good of our great nation!
Ba Monze;
(Sorry boss …batulangako inchisungu):
I wonder why you just couldn’t resit the temptation of having to drag PF and President Sata into this fight. This is on Lusambo and the way he perceives UPND; which I believe could easily be countered without making mention of PF or Sata.
Please stick to defending yourself on the allegations / advice from Bowman. I see you are a very intelligent Zambian with proper reasons against why you feel Lusambo’s opinion is not what you’d subscribe to. After all, that is coming from Lusambo (maybe MMD) himself, and NOT from PF (and Sata).
Where possible, kindly respond with your intellect directly to Bowman Lusambo … so we learn from it as your fellow Zambians; and for the good of our great nation!
But where did HH come from? He was no where in the UPND leadership corridors when Mazoka died. I feel the Tongas had to find someone from the con caves to take over from Mazoka, leaving an automatic candidate (Sikota) in the cold because of being non-tonga. I am Tonga myself, but this still puts me off to this day!!!
HH IS NOT A THREAT TO MMD
in 2006,he got 25%
in 2008,he got 20%
in 2011,he got 18%
SO WHERE WILL HE GET EVEN JUST THE 36% MMD got in 2011 to become President in 2016?
KULIBONESHA HH!
Just keep quiet Lusamboa! HH, aleisa…
just give HH support to add on to his national character he already has. It would be unwise of UPND to drop its leader a few months before elections. So far so good with HH.
HH has politically mismanaged UPND. Unlike his predecessor late Anderson Mazoka who used to sacrifice his resources to build UPND to an extent that it reached 27% popularity, HH does not want to part away with his money and so party mobilization is difficult and so the party only enjoys massive support in southern province of about 71% but has a paltry national support of 18%.
Really, you want UPND to replace Hakainde with a Mutale, mutale, Mumba et al for the party to have a national character – these hard core Bembas must be crazy!
Iwe na iwe, Lusambo is not Bemba but from North-Western province. Why don’t you say ‘this hard core Kaonde must be crazy’?
HH is already enjoying national character.. if you cant beat him join him!
How can HH of UPND enjoy national support with only 1 stronghold(southern Province) and national support of 18%?
I was pro MMD & Still believe in their economic policies but the recent attacks on fellow opposition parties especially UNPD has put me off. It seems they would rather let PF continue mismanage the country than let the other party win elections. to say the truth among all opposition parties UNPD looks set to be the better party to rule.
Lusambo has become an empty drum which is making a lot of useless noise and painting the MMD into a useless party.
Bwana Lusambo has completely lost direction to his political landscape. The current MMD leadership has exhibited lack of political maturity and tolerance to divergent views within its own rank and file.
Most political observers were shocked when MMD publicly criticised Dora Siliya, Dr. Chituwo, M. Kaingu and Mulusa. But silence sustained by these 3 men and lady suggests their tested experience on handling national issues. Hence Ba Lusambo, Dr. Mumba and Muhabi Lungu must revisit their leadership qualities if they deem themselves relevant in national politics.
Lusambo must concentrate on flagging credible facts to Zambians. Since democracy has raised Dr Mumba to MMD leadership, then it is NOT Lusambo’s business to organise leadership in UPND. 2016 will be interesting.
Bowman uses the tribal tag on anyone he disagrees with. He did this to the group that was trying to topple Dr Mumb and he succeeded in destroying them. He feels, he can use this method on UPND as well. The questions are who is sponsoring Lusambo and why has Nevers allowed him to continue saying the things he says?
my dear LUSAMBO u ar right HH will never win un election, and this has nothing to do with Tonga people but HH himself the man is full of man himself.and those who are claiming that UPND will win in 2016 they must be abroad becoz if u ar home u will see that hh is very far from the coridors of power,pliz move around zambia see for yourself dont be cheated by online media.
Wooo…weeeeluuu..I will vote for HH irrespective of the kongolay sokwe rhetoric.
Llusambo is right.HH actually decampagned himself when he said only a tonga should be the UPND president.I am sure we all remember when HH said “Iam UPND and UPND is me.I will be the last tonga man standing” when he insisted that he shold be the leader of the failed pact with the PF.Its a public secret that UPND is for tongas and is run like HH’s kathemba.The UPND is like a village council headed by a selfish village headman.Zambians are not interested in such tribal gatherings!!
What is your problem Lusambo you should be happy that HH is reducing the chances of UPND winning the 2016 elections so that MMD can have a come back KIKIKIKI ubupuba ba Lusambo ubupupu you are all scared of HH and UPND because you can feel the wind of Change blowing in the UPND direction that is why your paymasters are desparately trying to stop Mangango.
For how long have we heard this song of the wind of change blowing in their favour only for UPND supporters to burry their heads in the sand when votes from all other provinces are tallied? UPND lacks national character that is why they sit on a narrow support base of only 18% .UPND is deceiving itself and does not want to confront the truth of its decline in popularity from 27% during the late Anderson Mazoka’s reign to the current 18% under HH’s leadership.
They should do because Zambia wants to break away from financial scandals and violence. HH must surely see that it would be patriotic of him to do so, since the whiff of financial conduct in the mentioned saga is throwing his campaign off. The violence is happening on his watch. If people want a change to Zambia’s old leadership style, then (in the words of his supporter);’We want cream……’ Frankly, he was implicated of giving poor advice to gov’t at the time. Nalumango should step forward as the only credible leader who will not derail his wish for his party to win. He will still be a member of his winning party but not as President nor VP, perhaps a minsterial role as long as it is not MInistry of Finance etc. A good patriot will always stand down for the good of his…
Please leave Bowman alone imwe fi UPANDOWN he is not the one who told ACKSON SEJANI to DECLARE that ONLY A TONGA WILL TAKE OVER FROM MAZOKA. Go to Muvi TV they will show you the clip free of charge. The TRIBAL tag will never vanish on its own unless a lozi, kaonde or ngoni takes over as president of the UPANDOWN.
Lusambo is 100% right.It’s hard to vote for UPND if you’re not a tonga especially when u read insults on watchdog.The guys insults bembas as if they are at war.I can’t waste my vote.The party is too tribal to rule Zambia.Anyway, PF is delivering the development across all regions and no need for UPND.2016 will be landslide and UPND will continue dreaming of winning in 2021.
Walasa man!! UPND overrates themselves and with all the rubbish and insults in the watchdog surely no bemba person will vote for the hungry hyna (HH). Even the hired thugs like Wanzelu,China,etc etc know that the UPND will not and cannot win the presidency with HH as the heard.Dreamers never stop dreaming!!Let them dream until they run out of dreams.Come 2016 these guys will commit suicide because of bitterness! Its going to be another defeat for HH and his minions!
I can NEVER vote for HH. Neither would I vote for UPND again … I tried when Mozoka was there…and I guess that was the last chance they had with my vote!!! May His Soul Rest in Peace, as UPND continues failing to make it. Lusambo is right!
Bowman is entitled to his wrong opinion as always. When are you going to graduate to adulthood, you are a youth in perpetuity. Grow up! Don’t hate the player hate the game!
UPND was better managed by late Anderson Mazoka than currently under HH.UPND does not want to concede that their popularity has dropped from 27% to 18%.They are so blinded by tribal views that for them they see themselves dominating in central, north-western & western provinces on the understanding that both Nevers Mumba of MMD and Micheal Sata of PF cannot outwit them in these provinces because they do not hail from there.
@11.5, Paul u r right man.
For sure it takes time to
build a Political Career as SOMEONE has said, whch it has taken time for HH & he is NOW RIPE.
UPND has only remained with few Provinces ( Northern, Luapula & Eastern and others r already CONVINCED of wht UPND can do). We r closing the gaps.
Viva UPND viva HH Zondani muzalema.
Ba UPND; mind sharing with us why you think UPND is better than all the other political parties in existance? What will your party do differently from UNIP, MMD and PF’s rule (Combined)?
@ Mule
I think that would have been a better approach to take other than the insults being hauled on ZWD! Talk issues and issues and issues then people will eventaully believe that the UPND is a better alternative. I think the political landscape in Zambia has dramatically changed, it’s Tonga that, Bemba that awe ni malabishi yeka yeka!
I have been thinking of the same doesn’t UPND have credible men and women to lead the party ! HH has a lot of problems ,especially the undervaluing lwanshya mine sales , that is a very big problem, and Zambians would not like him to be their leader , take it from me , with him in leadership you are going no where
All political parties have good manifestos. What we need is a focused leader who will put in place policies and programmes that will benefit all Zambians. We are all human beings and apparently found to be citizens of Zambia. There is nothing special about being of whatever tribe. We go to the same schools, hospitals, churches and work together.
It is easier to praise a dead man .Mazoka is now a hero becos he is died. shame on you
People praising the performance of UPND under the leadership of late Anderson Mazoka are not doing it out of malice. It is a fact that late A. Mazoka within 3 years managed to raise popularity of UPND from 0% to 27%. It is also a fact that HH brought down the popularity of UPND within 5 years from 27% to 18%.Surely this is an issue which does not even require debate.
That is why HH needs the support of all of us to make him win. He has the capability of making zambia a better country.
Its correct observation if a commodity can not sell consistently on the shape despite numerous rebranding its time it was shaved off because it becomes costly to the new entrants and stifles growth.
Its a correct sentiment in the market and its a painful decision to make Its like holding on to a loosing product hoping that it will change with non reactive customer and passive customers Its like having a confirmation bias holding on to a loosing team and cheating ones self that we are okay in an ostrich type burying ones head in the sand and letting not to know what is around.Its time new leadership was tried not only for the party but for the politics in the country
Bowman, you cannot scrutinize presidential hopefuls realistically because you are partisan with undoubted bias towards MMD. This is simple logic. Do you think there are many people who can buy your story??? Gosh!
Truth be told Dr Conscious Banda has added some new hope but I think the American try try try until finally may not hold given the clusters and population sentiments for those being sold.When a shape of the product has been panel beaten several times simply to make it sellable its appealing in the mind of customer falls to inferior after several attempts Its like in the mind of the customer That is why product life cycle is important given the limited market segments in which that product has already been know and failed If not it may call for the change and branding of the party and company assuming that its emerges new in the minds of clients::
Bowman would not appear too illiterate if he suggested that HH should be replaced by a Tonga with national appeal. What is wrong with a Tonga or HH specifically, are they not Zambians? Now Bowman sounds like one of Kabimba’s multitudes of illiterate cadres.
The UPND should Not waste its Precious time to respond to people like Bowman Lusambo who is just”HALLUCINATING”Lusambo is fond of picking any topic and invite others for discussion,the best way is to ignore him as if he doesn’t exist on earth.
What does UPND constitution say on executive tenure of office? Is it that every five years there should be a convention or is it after every 20 years? Anyone with a quick answer please give me. Lusambo is fighting my battle. So we are comrades. Let us bolster each other, pal. We can’t let someome raping democracy before our eyes. HH must shown the exit door in UPND. He came through a window. Let Sakwiba Sikota assume the leadership of UPND. He is the rightful successor of Mazoka.
This goes to show that HH’s success and development as an unknown politician to a major contender is being felt. He is a credible leader and his weight is being felt by both the ruling party and the paid opposition stooges like Lusambo. It is “sebana wikute for Lusambo and company”. Even Nevers Mumba is now speaking against HH instead of working together to remove the Poor Failures. Zambians are tired of hearing about the tribal tag that the ruling party like to use against UPND and can see for what it is ” an old tired song”. Go HH and UPND.
Zambian’s will never be tired of referring to tribal tag and so it is up to UPND to prove otherwise.
Please we need to love our country and find the person to run our country, this is how we ended up with President Sata, UPND messed up there own party by saying only tongs can manage UPND, my friends Mr Mazoka raised the party from 0 % to 27 % in 3 years and HH brought down from 27% to 18 % in 5 years that’s very worrying, he should not worry bout Nevers Mumba he should pay attention to sorting the the tribal issue or help UPND to find the right candidate,
Mr. Lusambo sir, your tactics to divert focus of UPND on real issues will not be received by upnd supporters and all zambians who want development and improvements in the country. Your utterances are Un founded and mediocre.
Zambians are fully awake and reading situation well.
Your utterances will decimally fail to attract any attention to all zambians who favor development that upnd want to bring to the whole country.
A revolution has started and it can’t be stopped.
God redeem zambia through upnd and HH.
Viva upnd viva HH! !!
Honestly, I feel foolish to read such an article from an MMD call-boy.
MR LUSAMBO,IF YOU WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU JUST EAT PF MONEY AND GO HOME,BECAUSE HH WILL LEAD UPND INTO GOVT AND THE OLD AND STALE STORY YOU ARE FORWARDING IS NOT NEW. HH IS OUR CHOICE,ASK YOUR PARTY ABOUT RAMCOZ,IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HH. VIVA HH,VIVA UPND!