Confusion in the former ruling party the MMD has taken a new twist with Lunte MMD Member of Parliament Felix Mutati accusing party President Nevers Mumba of making the initial contact which led to MPs from the former ruling party to support the UPND in the last Presidential elections.
In a statement issued to the media on Wednesday, the former commerce Minister said he had remained silent amidst all the accusations that he led a rebellion of MPs because he did not want to wash dirty linen in public but that he has been forced to say something because of the high levels of hypocrisy and immorality within the party.
Mr Mutati said it was MMD leader Nevers Mumba who told NEC members and MPs that he had met the UPND leadership in South Africa and had agreed to go into the 2015 elections with UPND and that it was hypocrisy for him turn and point an accusing finger at him.
“First of all, It was not my idea nor did I lead a rebellion of MMD MPs to support another political party because at a NEC meeting, seating together with MPs on 16th November 2014 our President Dr Nevers Mumba briefed us that in facing the 2015 Presidential election he led a high powered delegation to South Africa for a meeting with UPND.
“Suffice to say that prominent African leaders helped broker a deal between the UPND and the MMD leadership. Among those who attended the meeting was Dr Mumba himself, then National Secretary Muhabi Lungu and Honourable Mwansa Mbulakulima.
Dr Mumba briefed us that everything had been discussed and that we as MMD would go in the election with the UPND. It was Nevers Mumba who led us to the UPND, while other people were advocating for RB to come back but some of us who acknowledged the legitimate leadership of Dr Mumba at that time decided to follow his directive. He even appointed some MPs and senior members to constitute a team to finalize the details of the alliance. I shudder to think that a man of God can U-turn today and start blaming us for going to UPND in 2015,” reads part of the statement.
And Mr Mutati says he has refused to discuss personalities with Dr Mumba and he will only engage him on matters regarding the former ruling party which he wants to see survive beyond the 2016 general elections.
“I have vehemently refused to engage Dr Mumba on a personal level because these are not personal issues but institutional matters, we are dealing with an institution which must survive beyond the 2016 elections.
“The stage we are at as a party is not where we start looking at parties that we can form alliances with but the greatest responsibility that we have is rebuilding our Party to levels of respectability so that even if we are to consider an alliance, it should be an alliance were we have value not in our current fragile state because we will just end up being a minor partner to who ever we are going to work with if that happens,” he said.
He said he will not be part of the emotional out burst going round within the party and that his focus is to make the party stronger so that it can go into the 2016 election as a united MMD.
On calls for him to take over the running of the party Mr Mutati said he has not hiden his ambitions.
“On the issue of running against Dr Mumba, I’m not sponsoring any one and have never sponsored anyone but my name is just being mentioned as one of the alternatives to the party leadership. And MMD being a democratic party, were I am as a bona fide member, it is my democratic right to stand against anyone and fancy my chances. And I have never hidden my aspirations of leading this party before and I don’t see the reason I should start hiding now,” he said.
Nevers has better reputation than Felix
Nevers is brilliant, HH is better and MS is the best.
Muutati must repsect the mandate of MMD and either jog on with his pills and or come and join the open secret heavily growing party in OA
Felix is a joke- simple as that
Thanks
BB2014
I disagree! Mumba is the one that started the UPND mixing, so he should man up and tell his people which side he belongs. Simple as that!
One love
God almighty in the name of JESUS’ spotless and blameless blood move and disperse the Holy Spirit to visit all online ethnocentric folks. I command destruction to all principalities and spiritual wickedness associated with some online bloggers in the name of JESUS. JESUS is LORD. I should first remove the spec in my own eye.
@mushota do you work for LT! No wonder you won the so calls BB2014 you voted for yourself!?
@ Mushota
You need to repent.You are a gigantic tribalist. I have not, do not and will not have respect for ethnocentric and mentally corrupt macroorganisms like yourself world over. This is my indepth perception.
@ Nostradamus
Please take care of your uncle! Ba Mumba has suffered since he left the church, now he wants to eat double tobela ,,,,,, your another uncle’s friend Bob sichinga was beaten and chased by ba kachema, now he’s going back,,,, ala what poverty can do!!!
Mutati and Mumba are one and the same, career politicians who cannot earn a living using their brains, but politics.
Mr Mutati’s story sounds very believable. Lets now hear Dr Mumba’s side before we conclude the matter.
Wow! Things are getting interesting! Mutati I respect you even more for being so mature all this time. He has been pushed to the limit for him to say take it public. Ba Mumba you are a man of God and act like one!
One love.
The guy is passing the buck – we never saw Nevers dancing with UPND nor ANNOUNCING IT IN THE PRESS – as he rightly notes, NEVERS discussed it in their meetings, BUT WHO OPENLY LED MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION – THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION IN THE HOUSE – i.e. Muatati – now he wants to run & hide!! His usual modus operandi!!!
Nevers is not a honest man and anyone dealing with this man needs to be very careful. What Nevers Mumba wants is something for himself, but he is using the whole MMD because on his own he knows he is a nobody politically. So when he gets what he wants he will dump MMD, actually you will hear one day that he is running for leadership of PF, don’t be surprised. Some of these people are opportunists with nothing to offer but they are just want a job and a salary.
Exactly my point! He is a fruad!
One love.
mutati is a fraud we saw supporting UPND instead of your party MMD.its *****s like you mutati destroying our politics.
Did you bother to read the article or you just came straight to the comments?
Mutati is just as treacherous as hh, and he is playing out his role nicely as hh’s puppet! He does not have MMD’s interest at heart but merely ensuring that he destabilise the party to the advantage of his puppeteer! Go quietly to your paymaster Mutati without raising unnecessary dust!
Mutati has clearly stated that MMD is weak at the moment but need to go in the coming elections with a stronger partner, being UPND and that way, MMD may grow a bit stronger after the elections if they won a few more MPs positions where it will be felt they are stronger in those constituencies. I think it would be a better strategy coz PF is losing like it or not unless they rig.
Nerves, as sata used to call him is something else!!
Mr Mutati, you are talking hogwash?
Mumba suggested an alliance, but not to jump ship, and start supporting another party?
Ba Mutati,if Mumba initiated the discussions to work with UPND and you obeyed (which then brought back RB knowing too well that MMD was going to be lost to HH,)why then didn’t you follow his decision to withdraw from the alliance and support him in his battle to reclaim the presidency and campaign with him in January 2015? We read about this agreement with gun runners and natural resource exploiters brokered by some former African heads of state with not so impressive moral records. Nevers,might have reflected on the implications of that alliance on the nation and turned away but you stuck and went to campaign for someone you were mere “introduced to” abandoning your party! Nevers has now seen how uninterested most of you are to work to build the party but to seek alliances…
..continued.. so he has suggested a new alliance which you should discuss rather than calling for a convention because contrary to your belief,MMD will still be weak if not weaker after that convention. It is only 6 months before elections and wherever you will go for an alliance you will still a minor partner because you will go divided. May be Ba Mutati you just want to survive because even at MP level you are not likely to maintain your seat so you want to bargaining chip! Zambians are tired of all of you political turn coats who cheat us for your own survival.
Now that the centre can no longer hold, part ways and each member support the party of their choice. MMD is as good as gone!
For now we need only two parties to avoid re-run. Support either PF or UPND the rest will just split the votes. UPND after all will be advantaged. Good luck
Mutati has been sent by HH to confuse the Party’s Agenda
Clearly you don’t know Mutati, I’m sure you just read about him, as a human being he is bound to have his flaws but he is not stupid to be used by HH. He is far much smarter.
MUTATI IS BRILLIANT AND CREDIBL. THE PROBLEMS IN MMD STEM FROM THE FACT THAT MUMBA NEEDS TO VALIDATE HIS MANDATE AS A LEADER. THE ONLY HE CAN DO THAT IS TO HOLD A CONVENTION AND PROVE ONCE AND FOR ALL THAT THE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE GRASSROOTS OF MMD ARE BEHIND HIM. LEADERS DONT IMPOSE THIER LEADERSHIP THEY EARN IT THROUGH DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES ENGRAINED IN THE PARTY STRUCTURES. AT THIS POINT MUMBA HAS NO CHOICE BUT HOLD A CONVENTION ELSE HE WILL BE VIEWED AS FORCING HIS LEADERSHIP ON MMD.
Mutati another cretin reduced to imbicility by (HH)
Your hate for HH is pure toxic…but just remember that he has overwhelming support of 5 out of 7 znbc broadcast languages.
Careful….as you.the Bembas say, ekousulile….!
Who cares who did what. Just break up enough already!
Until now, I held Mutati in high esteem. Instead of helping to build his party, he is working to run it down because he can never be president. Pantu mwisa, Mumba is a president and a veteran Mutati is not. Your party can only accommodate one president at a time; support him. There you yap splitting your party with your very hands. All of you power hungry c.r.o.o.k.s in MMD starting from Nevers, through to you Mutati are the hypocrites. “Selffull “individuals. You mean MMD cannot stand as one force. Shame, you behave like kids.How big was MMD 1991 through 2011? Kano nga nimwe baMutati!! You had better kept Zzzzzz oro just declare your total allegiance to one party period!! Umutima ukubipa mwe.
Until now, I held Mutati in high esteem. Instead of helping to build his party, he is working to run it down because he can never be president. Pantu mwisa, Mumba is a president and a veteran Mutati is not. Your party can only accommodate one president at a time; support him. There you yap splitting your party with your very hands. All of you power hungry c.r.o.o.k.s in MMD starting from Nevers, through to you Mutati are the hypocrites. “Selffull “individuals. You mean MMD cannot stand as one force. Shame, you behave like kids.How big was MMD 1991 through 2011? Kano nga nimwe baMutati!! You had better kept Zzzzzz oro just declare your total allegiance to one party period!! Umutima ukubipa mwe..
The difference between the two could be under Mr Nevers, MMD proposes to be even shoe cobblers for PF but under Mr Felix, they might propose to be Finance Managers for PF. Any way let Mr Rupiah sit his people down
Like kids at home accusing each other. These idiöts must simply man up and look at the big picture.
Comment:mutati is a spentforce,a finished man.pf must make sure that he will b swept out of lunte seat in th forth coming general elections.ver soon he will b irrelevant.leave nevers alone.u messed up alone
Ok mutati fyonaulefye kembo mumbba teti akucinge ninshi we damn want to change this oppressive regime.show mumba ati politics teyabana iyoo
uwakwesha ubushiku\nishinindoshi
Nevers Mumba is the MMD president. Juniors should comply and follow protocol. All traitorous MMD MPs should calm don and let their leadership steer the party to victory.
Viva Jesus, viva Zambia.
Seems ARVS are making this man to be a dementia. This man needs home based care
mumba suggested that mmd support upnd? then why did he participate in the by election? mutatis story does not make sense to me!
Mutati’s story does not add up how does he claim nevers mumba initiated their support for UPND when MMD also participated in the elections? If i remember correctly Nevers even pleaded with all the MPs to support their party in the election but mutati and group refused and backed HH while others supported ECL. This is the same guy mumba defeated to become MMD president on 25th may 2012 giving him a five year mandate. So what does this guy really want?????
Mutati is right. It is true that Mumba backed out and decided to participate in the election. That’s why the others went ahead, I mean the few MMD mps who went ahead to support HH… Don’t ask me why? I got info from Zambia before the elections that Mumba had backed out of the deal.
Ichi chi Mutati no wisdom at all.He is dreaming of becoming the leader of MMD but at the same time busy destroying it.Just wait for your time iwe.
BA MUTATIIIII! You are not even ashamed to state that it’s NEVERS who initiated forming an alliance with UPND. Quite ok NEVERS initiated a deal, but when RB came on board, there was confusion in the party. You took advantage of the confusion and secretly jumped on the deal and you were offered the position of Vice President had UPND won the election. When problems were sorted out in the MMD, Nevers had no option, but to abandoned the deal because you hijacked it. I was there, personally was not happy the way you and HH treated Nevers. You had already shared top positions when Nevers won the case in the court of law ( Nevers versus RB). Be honest, that’s why you’re not succeeding in your dealings.
Wow,self seeking alliances and betrayals by these capricious politicians.Why not put an alliance with suffering Zambians 1st ahead of your alliance with your venal political compatriots?
2016 Lungu Chances
Estimated Total voters roll 5 900 000
Theoretical expected Voters 2 302 153
Voter turnout 39%
Monte carlo simulation %
Aggregate votes share 83%
Projected share 75%
Popular vote win probability 65%
Electoral vote win probability 75%
Estimated Registered:electoral vote snapshot forecast 5,900,000
Electoral vote simulation mean 2,302.153
Theoretical expected Votes …
Theoretical expected Votes 1,670,000
Maximum trial Expected Voters 2,302,153
Minimum trial Expected Voters 1,670,000
Average 48.8
Projected share 75%
The rerun is only possible at 49% with HH and LUNGU tying
The impact of Nevers Mumba as a leader of MMD is insignificant to lungu It only adds 0.01% of the share of Nevers votes in the last held elections as opposed to Lungu taking away 10% and 7% from HH in the 2011 and 2015 last held elections adding to his…
to his own 2016 counts
Though the count for Nevers Mumba as an individual towards lungu is insignificant, some of his MPS with presence on the ground have a marginal influence of about 1% of previously held elections that voted for them especially in those less strong holds BUT all in whole the Alliance with UPND is no effect since the incumbent is more preferable with popular vote nationally of more than 75% as opposed to 16% for HH and 1% for those individual MPS to add to HH and the rest 3% inclusive of Nevers
Lungu will comfortably win by a mean count of close to 55% to 65%
There is therefore no possibility of rerun at 39% and HH…
Naphitali don’t panic wait for Official results.PF is finished.
Where is the 75% national popular vote for Edgar and HH’s 16% come from? Pls educate me. The last contest between the two (ECL and HH, not PF and UPND) was in 2015 and the difference was barely 1%?
wamona mwaiche mutati, pipo got info on you.
cannot amass 900000 plus votes to equalize and force for a rerun with lungu Its basically impossible fundamentally and technically looking at his less than 16% of his national share of projected voter turnout
The only reference election very valid for any analysis is 2011 and not so the last recent one 2015,it does not quiet count
HH cannot therefore win and neither is the Mumba alliance any factor to Edgar
AS a matter of Fact the 2011 election was for PF and Sata on one hand and UPND and HH on the other, ECL was not a participant. HH competed with Sata not ECL so why should your simulation be based on that election not the 2015 election when HH competed with ECL??
…better to comment in detail after Nevers responds to this….maybe he truly had a meeting with UPND..but was is conclusive..??….just like now…PF in courting MMD…but its not finalise…only to see MMD MPs sharing platform with PF at their (PF) rallies…only to claim Nevers initiated it…rubbish
Only a fool will rush to insulting mutati…. the man is a brilliant technocrat… a brilliant idealist a great leader who even got recommendation from America’s former secretary of state Mrs Hillary Clinton…. for you to believe nevers mumba a man that is known for u-turning on every thing he says… a man with a history of selling things first his party to become veep then his own house currently the man is renting a house well the party is renting a house for him now he is auctioning the mmd… defending him on this means you have no good wishes for mmd
Only a fool will rush to insulting mutati…. the man is a brilliant technocrat… a brilliant idealist a great leader who even got recommendation from America’s former secretary of state Mrs Hillary Clinton…. for you to believe nevers mumba a man that is known for u-turning on every thing he says… a man with a history of selling things first his party to become veep then his own house currently the man is renting a house well the party is renting a house for him now he is auctioning the mmd… defending him on this means you have no good wishes for mmd….. mutati is one of the few politicians we have today that still make sense
mutati! mutati! mutati!mutati! how many times did i call you. hmmm ba mudala namulaba nokupenda, not three times , its four. listen, Nevers initiated but did not conclude on all the modalities am sure. why? because he did agree with HH, so he decided to go it alone. he asked all his MPs including you to support him, but what dd you do? for him to call for your support , it simply and easily means things had changed. but you could not see that. note DO UNTO OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO DO TO YOU. God forbid , but if you became MMD president today, you can have the worst resistance in your party ranks like never before. FELIX!FELIX!FELIX! how many times have i called. iwe ulesalapuka its three times not four.UYU!
mutati! mutati! mutati!mutati! how many times did i call you. hmmm ba mudala namulaba nokupenda, not three times , its four. listen, Nevers initiated but did not conclude on all the modalities am sure. why? because he did NOT agree with HH, so he decided to go it alone. he asked all his MPs including you to support him, but what dd you do? for him to call for your support , it simply and easily means things had changed. but you could not see that. note DO UNTO OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO DO TO YOU. God forbid , but if you became MMD president today, you can have the worst resistance in your party ranks like never before. FELIX!FELIX!FELIX! how many times have i called. iwe ulesalapuka its three times not four.UYU!
Hon Mutati thankyou for your realisation that you almost to your finishing path. I was suprised to see that Muchelaka couldnt be a lesson to you. Way forward reconcile with Mumba and RB. Pipo of lubansenshi will vote under PF tucket or else you will soon be history.
Just an Observation. MMD has 37 Members of Parliament. UPND has 31. Surely How can a Party with such big numbers and structures on the ground be facing such confusions. Please MMD realize that you are the second biggest party in the country and put your house in Order.
Mr. Mutati must very careful because he may just end up like Mucheleka, the former MP for Lubanseshi and the rest is history.
Do many young people today even know that ba Mutati you once a Finance Director in ZESCO? What successful projects you presided on in ZESCO which today could have mitigated the power deficit that the country is facing, NIL.
So its better to be truthful in life and dont try to be clever by taking advantage of those that may not know your background. You NEVER financed any project in ZESCO Mr. Mutati all that you did was to sign cheques, so the youth must know this and should not be deceived by HH and Mutati, these guys have been there before and the challenges you see today, they are to a large extent contributors.
Ba Mutati please, be honest with youself. Everyone knows very well that MMD in its form and shape cannot go into 2016 elections by itself and as a person who aspires to lead MMD at one point, you should be able to respect and support your president Dr. Nevers Mumba. Remember that Dr. Mumba was elected as MMD president by the majority MMD members at a convention and he has the mandate to run its affairs. You being a senior member must be in the fore front to protect and recognise the authority of Dr. Nevers Mumba because one day, the hide and seek you are exhibiting in the night with UPND may haunt you forever.
What you friends do if not satisfied with the status quo of some sort is just to leave, that way people will judge you fairly. As it is now, everyone knows your intentions and it…
@ SIDO MARK
Just be honest, you can sulk, insult, hate and detest PF and President Lungu, the fact is and this should be in imprinted in your brain that President Lungu will win the 2016 general elections by about 60%. Am very sure you have not done any indepth research as to why your Kalusa Heka even managed to get those votes from one region. If indeed you can see what we see and know what we know, you will be the last person to ever dare the PF.
Politics of promises cannot win you presidency in the 50%+1 set up, it is performance based which in all fairness President Lungu and the PF has a big advantage. Which Zambian today has not witnessed development in there area? If you can answer this simple question, then you know the results already. PEOPLE WANT DEVELOPMENT AND NOT TALK…
2011
SATA 43% National Evenly Spread in all Provinces
HH 18% National Composition 72% southern
Turnout 45%
2016 elections is a voter simulation starting with 2011 looking at trends and patterns since 1991 especially when determining regional vote
like I have said above 2015 is not a reference point but a winning candidates like lungus 55% will be picking on from 2011 taking votes from HH and others from 2015 and adding on the new voters registered in the 2016 counts
For popular vote do a national survey from sample 10 to 100 people you will observe the national 75% sentiment for lungu you down weight it for the regional…
representation
That is just the sentiment at 75% but simulate at 51% 55% to 65% you will observe that HH cannot win or Marshall a rerun at those confidences with a margin error of 2%
Its a foregone conclusion unless he can get the mean value given the projected national turnout of 39% not from one region 75% always and the rest below 10% or so
You see the law of large numbers works GOOD for LUNGU as opposed to HH
In the current scenario the further HH can come is for the Rerun but even that its remote because even at 25% to 30% voter turnout bare minimum turnout with current projected voters role HH cannot win
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i thot this man was intelligent kanshi lifwafwa.nevers term has not finished.wait until 2021