VETERAN politician Daniel Munkombwe says the voting pattern in the just ended August 11, 2016 elections results reflects strongholds for the ruling Patriotic Front (PF) and United Party for National Development (UPND) and not tribalism.
Mr Munkombwe called on the citizenry against talks of tribalism because when they fought for independence they fought as one people.
Speaking in an interview yesterday Mr Munkombe said the current voting pattern in the last elections was not tribal but an indication that the presidential candidates were stronger in those areas where they gathered more votes.
He gave an example of President Elect Edgar Lungu wining in Mwansabombwe as that had nothing to do with tribal just like UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema winning in Shangombo where he did not come from but those were the party’s strong holds.
He said during his time various politicians in the likes of Vernon Mwaanga, Sikota Wina, Humphrey Mulemba and Mainza Chona won parliamentary seats in areas where they did not originate from.
He said he did not want to talk about tribalism because the essence of the one Zambia one nation slogan was for the citizenry to win an election even in areas where they did not originate from.
“We had Humphrey Mulemba winning in Eastern province, Vernon Mwaanga in Luanshya, Sikota Wina also on the Copperbelt but they never came from these areas and that is why we had the One Zambia one Nation.
“These young people were not there when we came up with the one Zambia one nation let them think about the nation,” he said.
Following the just ended elections there has been some post elections talks alleging that certain regions in the country were practicing tribalism because of the voting pattern.
But why was hh able to get decent votes outside his strong hold? If only southern could vote on development we can say it’s not tribalism.
If the voting was balanced and only with a reasonable difference between the two we can agree with you not were a difference is 40 000 the case of dundumwezi that is tribalism belly politician.
Belly Politician thinks we are f00ls mxxm
People from SP should also understand that in a democracy it is the majority that rule…3,5 provinces in Zambia cannot rule the majority in 6,5 provinces. Therefore, for HH and UPND to rule they must sell themselves in there other provinces….PF has the majority of counselors and MPs and how does HH hope to govern in such an environment?
The chief tribalist himself . . . . . time for a tonga nonsense dununad
shameless tribalist
@HH Techilema, that’s where you get it wrong. Elections are not about voting for development, whatever that means to you. It’s all about voting for your preferred candidate among those competing. It doesn’t matter whether you gave me money or built a road or whatever, if you are not my preferred candidate, I wont vote for you, period. PF think because they have paved a few roads and put up a few structures called schools and clinics then everyone should give them a vote, NO. What about the insults, the intimidation, the violence, taking away our freedom of expression and association. There is no way I can give my precious vote to such a party. That is democracy, my friend.
Bcos He campaigned and people their saw sense in him…obviously people in UPND strongholds dot sense in Lungu.This shows HH is more loved than Lungu…simple
Iam waiting for these strongholds to be there in 2021 when GBM takes over the Presidency of UPND
Forget strongholds. We should worry about the stupidity of allowing greedy nutters to have a stranglehold over constitutional rights.
Munkombwe is the last 1mbecile in UPND to talk. This guy is an 1diot.
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
– Alik Shahadah
Old Munkombwe thinks he is talking to 5 year olds. Alzheimer’s disease may be taking its toll. And if as he says, Zambians fought for independence as one people, why are Southerners hurting other people who are not Tonga and who are not UPND, with whom they are supposed to be one? The tribal tag cannot be wished away. Love your neighbor as yourself and the tribal tag will fall off without any fuss. WE CAN LIVE AS ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY IN OUR GREAT COUNTRY ZAMBIA!
Munkombwe is a Chief Tribalist. There is nothing sensible he can say. Tongas are very tribal and self centred pipo. They dont appreciate anything and very selfish characters
@Jimmy; You are a very lost soul. Are you a Tonga yourself or have you lived among the Tonga? Some of us have lived and worked in all parts of the country. What you’re saying about the Tonga is very far from the truth. There seems to be a new regime of tribal haters these days in Zambia and I wonder why!! I run a private firm and I employ all sorts of people. Never have I ever had tribal problems even when some try to promote speaking their own language to everybody.
Go there today and see if will come back alive. They won’t look at whether you supported Upnd or hh for as long as your surname is not theirs they will clober you. My brother was in the forefront chanting hh but he is no longer doin it.
It is Munkombwe who has fueled up tribalism, during the 2015 bye elections, he gag-up with VJ Mwanga and Maureen Mwanawasa- said its time for a tonga to be president but you missed the point the biggest tribal grouping in Zambia is bemba, then ngoni, followed by Lozi, tonga…………., so chief tribalist stop and think.
Munkombwe is 100% correct, there is no tribalism here, it’s democracy. Democracy is voting who you want, the people of southern province voted who they wanted. However, I note that others see tribalism because they are looking for it.
so other tribes should vote for your god hh
People of southern province, please don’t feel guilty of anything. Even if elections were held again vote the way you want. If you want a tonga, go for him full throttle.I am from Eastern province myself and don’t see any legal, moral or any offence with your voting pattern.
ngope sinyenga
If there was anything wrong with the voting in UPND strongholds. ECZ would have nullified the elections. Those yapping of tribalism are yapping it. The only tribalism I saw was from the eastern province vote. Let’s not demonize the people of southern province
Can somebody explain why Southern province should have voted for Lungu. Aren’t all economic indicators down, people vote sensibly and you call that tribalism, mbuzi izi . I am also wondering why ECZ is quite, it should have been the first to stop this nonsense of people trying to thwart democracy in southern province
Lets learn to respect elders and people who fought for our freedom. The derogatory statements are a sign of indiscipline.munkombwe is a statesman
In the 2011 elections, Luapula, Northern and Eastern provinces gave HH a combined vote of only about 15000 votes. Southern Province alone on the other hand gave Sata (RIP) about 25000 votes. If voting patterns are reduced to mean a tribal barometer, who is more tribal here? By the way, these are official ECZ Results.
Please lets do be not fooled by our politicians about this tribal talk. We are only engaging in this talk for the benefit of these politicians. We are One Zambia One Nation. Politicians want to divide us. Say NO.
Zambians we should stop shading and hating each other… Its sad that we are really not ready for Social Media. We are suppose to share ideas on how to solve our problems instead of CYBER BULLYING EACH OTHER.Hate destroys the soul of the person entertaining it and also leaves a trail of destruction. Its okay not to like someone’s behaviour as opposed to hating the person and character assassinating them. OUR LEADERS NEED PSYCHOLOGIES ON THEIR SIDES as assistants…..
God came to me last night and said that we need to get rid of evil tonga if we want peace. Let us come together and kill tongas. Please add me on fayce book my name is James matches.
Future Pf spokesman
We don’t entertain such in Pf. Upnd are the ones who rejoices in other people misfortunes. Try that in Upnd they will like you. Sorry.
You are sick. I am an official within pf. Please don’t embarrass yourself. If you don’t believe me then search for me
iwe ka James Match.ende yako take your tonga manners to your cattle post
I don’t want to insult my friend. Go and practice your evil things with hh. He is actually looking for 1diots like you. Pf is a peaceful party and we don’t condon violence. Violent members left with winter. Sorry bro
all bembas a easterners in southern province voted for HH. what tribalism. There is no tribalism it is strong holds. Thanks Mr. Mukombwe. Only those that are tribalism are seeing tribalism because it is in them. Just like if one is a thief all he thinks about is theft. Tribalists see tribe in everything. Like one now sick man was always saying kuvotela uwakumwenu nga abatonga. In his brain all people from southern province are tongas. Shame
I came to know that even people from other regions also lives in tongaland last week when they were being clobbered and their houses demolished and are now seeking refuge at a school in namwala.
We have Nyanja MP for Livingstone central called Jere.is that tribalism also.
Tonga/Bemba offspring.one Zambia one nation – What tribe is Livingstone urban?
MUNKOMBWE HAS LOST WEIGHT. COMING TO THE VOTING PATTERN IN SOUTHERN PROVINCE, LETS UNDERSTAND WHAT CAUSED THAT IS NOT ONE BUT MANY FACTORS. TO START WITH, DAVIS CHAMA, MUMBI PHIRI DID INSULTS SOUTHERNERS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE WERE ASKING FOR WAS A SIMPLE APOLOGY WHICH WE NEVER HEARD. WHEN ELECTIONS WERE BEING ANNOUNCED FROM SOUTHERN, I SAW DAVIS SHAKING HIS HEAD, WHAT DID HE EXPECT? A MIRACLE! LETS BE SERIOUS AND REALIZE THAT U CAN NOT TAKE PEOPLE FOR A RIDE. EDGER SHOULD HAVE FIRED THIS GUY IF HE REALLY MEANS WELL ON TRIBALISM.
Why are sweeping under the carpet the open truth which birthed hh into politics. In case you are shy to talk about it let me help you. Your hh came on the political scene sailing on a tribal card. Its not even a secret that a pronouncement of only a Tonga to be Upnd leader was made. What do you expect the tongas to do as tribal as they are? Vote for a non tonga? You must be joking. They have all received that pronouncement with joy and they Wil change. That’s why we are encouraging non tongas to take the Upnd leadership so that the tribal tag can be difused.
HH Techilema – When HH said RB will be chased like a dog, did the Easterners make a scene of it? Mr. Munkombwe should not be playing games by glossing over this serious problem. He himself has done a good job in promoting this vice. Man up old man and help diffuse this problem you have created before your generation is gone. Talking about the One Zambia One Nation motto that KK did so well to preach – your HH does not even respect it.
The voting pattern also show the quality of candidates, similar to 2 families in the neighbourhood, one family prepares chicken while the other prepares cassava leaves, which children’s home are likely to rush or even finish the meal when served? Its those with a chicken, infact, some children from katapa home are likely to go with friends to the chicken meal. Its that simple logically! In simple terms, ECL comparatively is of lower quality as republican president compared to HH!
kkkkkkkkk Oldman belly politics in your own words good observation coming from an elderly man…did your daughter peggy win?
Munkombwe’s reasoning on this issue is flawed! In a country like Zambia people expect a party to be voted on the basis of development it has delivered.PF has tried under the circumstances to put up economic and social infrastructure in many parts of the country,Southern Province being among the top. Munkombwe himself was in PF with Sata and I reckon,he played a part in having all those projects prioritized for Southern Prov instead of even PF strongholds!On that basis people expected PF to get NOT ALL VOTES but A DECENT COUNT! This is even greater for Western Province. If it is not tribalism,WHAT MADE WESTERN VOTE LIKE THAT when SOME DEVELOPMENT has been taken there? What about NW where ALL DISTRICTS are BEING CONNECTED TO NATIONAL GRID + OTHER PROJECTS?
Old man remember you’re the one who started the snow ball when you said “IT’S TIME FOR US TO RULE ” You also contradict yourself when you say that Sikota etc could win even in areas where they didn’t come from but can Freedom Sikazwe win in Choma? Zero Mudala just go back to the Ice Age
This old man cannot see beyond his nose. His comment lacks merit. HH got at least reasonable votes outside Southern, Western and North-western Provinces unlike the votes President Lungu got in the three named provinces! What else can one say was the most contributing factor other than tribal factor? Let us not run away from the truth or else hiding the truth of the matter will NEVER help us and in the long run will just spoil our country, Zambia
Yes I feel for the Tongas for not having a tribesman as a Republican President. But ours is not a rotation democracy, but where you win by getting more votes than other competitors. HH should “liberate ” himself from this tribal tag. Let other parties campaign is Southern Province without being intimidated. Some how one has to start movement like the MMD which in its initial stage had a more national image.
My appeal to Uncle Dan, is for him to call on God to guide him how he can repair the damage that he’s done to ZAMBIAN political landscape.
Munkombwe waawa. How does it taste. That’s your own medicine. you like it. Learn to love all your children , if you don’t want to fall again. We can also hit where it matters the most. You lost your integrity the moment you said those words. You should know that we have a father above in heaven also who is just.
IN 2015 YOU WERE AT THE UPND POLITICAL PODIUM AND SAID: “NOW IT’S OUR TIME AS TONGAS TO RULE”
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It has been your political theme, former minister, to campaign on tribal grounds. You resigned from PF, me thinking you were not fed properly. Mmmmh! Munisekesa a Munkombwe! ai! Njala yaluma ka?
Politics of the belly man, tribalism is tribalism, it is a cancer whereby if you don’t treat well well, it can eat up the entire nation. The older generation(Munkombwe’s generation) which is supposed to teach the youth oneness is in the forefront issuing disparaging and divisive remarks to the youth. Munkombwe, muselela kwakaba, can’t you be civil for once! Yes a tonga can rule Zambia, but when all you wicked pieces fall off!
Southern province, please vote as you wish. Don’t allow anyone to demonize you for exercising your democratic rights. Continue voting the way you are voting if you think the people you are choosing are capable, there is absolutely no offence, legally or morally for who you voted for
Another way of looking at tribalism-Strongholds. Ya Lets go with this but we shouldn’t beat up minorities in the strongholds
tired politians like DM. VJ. Dr. Mumba , Muzungu GS you just waste time putting their opinions in your blog. Only useless people follow these finished political failures. These have been in government before but they cant point at anything they have done for the country. they are part of the reason people dont like upnd. Cling to these and you will always be invitees to State House.
“Namwala stabbing people with other names other than Tonga and burning down of other people’s houses and businesses is not tribalism,” Munkombwe.
Munkombwe should also tell us whether an Easterner or a Northerner has ever been elected in Southern or Western provinces; then lets see whether we are all singing the same ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION song. As your statement stands, you have cleared those who voted for Mulemba, Mwaanga and Sikota of the tribal talk.
Ba munkombwe edger lungu did not win the post election just wait we will storm him when he come Ku northwestern province,you guys are thieves you have made people to suffer in this country called Zambia,what a God fearing leader who can say FIBA kaonde,ifiba lozi ne fibatonga ta fyakwata mano,don’t play with God mind am not a tonga
Kateni kobe Wanzawei you western province.
Comment 29 – Western Province- does not mean good for the well being of Zambia. Can you think before you write anything for the public? That is one way of inciting people to rise against the President by putting ill words in the mouth of our President for things he NEVER said. Can you learn to be sober in your writing. Such uncivilized way of writing can fuel tempers of people whose tendency is to believe whatever is read in the media. LEARN TO BE SOBER AND CIVILIZED