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UPND will not be forced to recognise Lungu-Liswaniso

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The United Party for National Development (UPND) Youth Spokesperson Gilbert Liswaniso says that his party will not be forced to accept the illegitimate Presidency of Edgar Lungu by hired guns such as Cosmo Mumba.
Liswaniso says that UPND is resolved with renewed vigour to ensure that the Presidential petition is heard and all atrocities of the 2016 elections effectively exposed and the fullest extent of the law applied.
He observes that Cosmo Mumba is what he is, a political flea who should focus on growing his Kantemba three man party instead delving in matters he cannot comprehend.
Cosmo Mumba who is National Revolution Party President was quoted saying that the UPND’s Presidential petition is not going anywhere and that it will remain a violent party in opposition.
Liswaniso adds that seasonal politics of the belly exercised by fly by night politicians such as Cosmo Mumba is a mockery, laughable, fraud and a disaster.
The UPND National Youth Spokesperson notes that politicians like Cosmo Mumba seek to undermine true tenets of democracy, the rule of law, unity of purpose and justice for all citizens.
“They are praise singers whose sole intention is to feed and nourish their greedy and insatiable appetites for money.
Cosmo Mumba has a very questionable conscience and mental faculties that makes mockery of a noble profession of comedy. He should never be taken seriously for whatever reason.
Cosmo is a demagogue, a fraud and an attention seeker who will praise and support anyone for his own selfish motives” Liswaniso stated.
He says that UPND is very committed to ensuring that the world knows the real results of the 2016 Presidential elections.
Liswaniso adds that his party will pull no punches and leave no stones unturned in the quest to prove that the election was indeed stolen from the UPND and President Hakainde Hichilema.
He further made it clear to the PF and all their supporters that UPND is not afraid of them.
“We are fearless and will not be cowed down.Bring it on. Let the petition be heard” Liswaniso said.
He spoke to journalists in Lusaka on Wednesday.

54 COMMENTS

  1. Exactly. How do you force your illegal leadership on people. Why not have petition heard so that we can prove if you really are the genuine president. This is like forcing a woman to sleep with you.

    • Why is the president so fixed on who recognises him as president?
      Even Jesus was never recognised as a messiah by some jews.
      Just get on with the job!
      The last time l checked HH was still attending court courses called on the name of the president which president you guessed it the same LUNGU.
      Some will like you some won’t but so what?
      Move on!

    • How many in Zambia recognize homosexuality or accept prostitution? A matter of choice isn’t it? It would be folly for gays and prostitutes to want to force it on the people that they be recognized as this is a matter of personal conviction, thus no person should try to push others to their view on a here nor there issue just live with it and move on with your lives! Does it mean all those that did not vote for Lungu recognize him? Even some who voted for him hardly know the person Zambians generally are not analytical and vote for the party and not individuals so Lung whether he likes it or not not everyone will love or like him just as each person has those who like and dislike them this is trivial unless of course the self has ego inferiority!

    • WELL, YOU ARE JUST A CLUB (PARTY). THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE INCLUDING ME ALREADY RECOGNISED HIM AS OUR PRESIDENT. SO, WHETHER OR NOT YOU RECOGNISE ECL AS THE PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA, THAT’S YOUR OWN BABY. AS A MERE CLUB AGAINST THE NATION YOU DON’T MATTER.

  2. So what are you trying to achieve as a party?
    The fact is that Zambia have a Sitting president for the full term. So either some part of zambia accept or not but the fact will still remain that zambia has a president.
    The best is to Organize the party country wide for 2021 Elections.

    • The president may remain, yes. But the world will know that he stole elections and this may act as a deterent for future election thieves. I see sense in Pursuing it, not necessary for HH to be declared president but to deter sitting presidents to manipulate election results in future.

    • Scone 13 that’s one heavy burden of hate for HH you carrying, cast it unto Jesus for he cares for you.

    • @2.1 WHICH WORLD? THE WORLD YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RECOGNIZE ECL AS THE WINNER OF 2016 ELECTIONS BY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. SO, WHICH WORLD, NOW? ARE YOU IN A DREAM?

  3. So what? Why don’t boycott everything to do with Lungu including that 50 Kwacha bearing KK FTJ LPM, Rupia and Edgar. Time wasters hope you won’t disrupt the Kuomboka

  4. 1. I stand for every Zambians right to assembly and conscience. We are allowed to be as st*pid as we want to be and with whom we want to be.
    2. I stand for free speach. Every Zambian should have the right to embarrass themselves.
    The upnd team may find the process to have been flawed but it is the process we took. That it did not favour their ends was a matter for the courts and due process. Tough tities for them.
    When the mutherphuckers want to mess with the system, then they piss me off. Those phucking MPs should refuse to draw salaries and refuse to attend all sessions and declare that their elections were fraudulent too.

  5. Either the whole system is rancid or it is not. Pick one, you mutherphuckers.
    If the sh1t was bogus, don’t show up for sittings, get expelled from parliament and have some other party represent the people of your areas.
    Same as refusing the results of the same DNA test done that finds that the ugly, dull, kid is yours while the smart, cute kid is for the ZESCO meter reader.

  6. United Ponio Nio Dogs When ECL travels wherever throughout the World is accorded with Head of State recognition and addressed as such.
    Hakashinde Humwine is an opposition leader of his personal to holder Party.
    Simple that’s not rocket technology

  7. Listen and listen carefully the president is ECL and weather anyone agrees or not nothing will change so let’s just move on. If we go in an exam room and we take representatives from PF,FDD,UPND and PPL. And they ask the question, whose the president of Zambia? You like it or not there is only one answer to it. Which everyone knows including yourselves .

  8. UPND is the largest establishment in Zambia ,popular number two in Africa first is ANC while the most celebrated and popular politician is HH seconded by J.Malema.This information has just been entered in the Gin’s book of records

    • @mbekku winna on April 6, 2017 at 10:29 am ou said
      “UPND is the largest establishment in Zambia ,popular number two in Africa first is ANC while the most celebrated and popular politician is HH seconded by J.Malema.This information has just been entered in the Gin’s book of records”

      If that was the case then you wouldnt be crying about the 5% votes that you needed to get 50%+1Vote.

    • Yeah he might be in the “GIN’S BOOK OF RECORDS” but definitely not in the “GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS”. Desperation ba UP and DOWN you guys are unbelievable, your leader has brainwashed you to an extent that you have stopped thinking.

    • I know a boy who was in gled one.
      By then hh was in oppostion.
      The boy is Now at unza hh is in oppostion
      still

      Hh is official oppostion leader recognised
      the whole Africa. Ki ki ki ki ki yabaaaa

    • I mean the eam thing is a metaphor for the obvious answer that ECL IS THE ONLY PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA AT THE MOMENT

    • And this man Liswaniso is so dull, just like is small god HH!
      I cant believe that he is still talking about “The petition to be heard”. Doesn’t he know that there is no court in Zambia with enough Jurisdiction to hear that petition when the 14 days are up?

      In order for the so called Petition to be heard again we have to change the constitutiont, just to satisfy the ego of one HH and a handful of loudmouthed, ignorant, blind, illiterate followers. Even then, we have to backdate the effective date of the new amended law.

      And if you guys have any information that HH won the elections, you can prove it with figures, here on this forum, and not just empty chants founded on foolish allegiance to a very dull person. for our info,
      THAT PETITION WILL NEVER BE HEARD BECAUSE THE…

    • THAT PETITION WILL NEVER BE HEARD BECAUSE THE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW IT, AND NOT BECAUSE ECL DOESN’T WANT IT. GET THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL

  9. The election was stolen until Lungu proves in court he isn’t a thief . The right to be heard can’t be denied because of a technicality. Only his shameless supporters who depend on his handouts recognise him as president. Respect is earned.

  10. Apa pena ba UPND ifyakucita nafibula … insoni shekasheka fye! Ala bonse fwebantu tulaluba icaileni fye bane and come back to reality!

  11. @Wantanshi,

    You are just is clueless as the clueless hyena who calls other humans hyenas. In Law, THE BURDEN OF PROOF rests on the accuser and not on the accused. So you guys any of you, please, give us that proof in figures, or forever shut you mouths.

  12. And this man Liswaniso is so dull, just like is small god HH!
    I cant believe that he is still talking about “The petition to be heard”. Doesn’t he know that there is no court in Zambia with enough Jurisdiction to hear that petition when the 14 days are up?

    In order for the so called Petition to be heard again we have to change the constitutiont, just to satisfy the ego of one HH and a handful of loudmouthed, ignorant, blind, illiterate followers. Even then, we have to backdate the effective date of the new amended law…

  13. …And if you guys have any information that HH won the elections, you can prove it with figures, here on this forum, and not just empty chants founded on foolish allegiance to a very dull person.

  14. Any one with information to prove that the hyena is the one who won the elections please come forward with proof in figures compiled polling station by polling station, nicely tabulated.

    I give you guys 24 hours to publish that proof or forever keep your cool and never again bring back this time wasting pipe dream that hyena was robbed of victory.

    • HACHINTU,
      WE HAVE ASKED UPND THE SAME QUESTION TIME AND AGAIN TO BRING THE PROOF ON THE TABLE AND NO BODY HAS DONE SO.
      THEY WILL NEVER PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCE IN ANY COURTS OF LAW TO SHOW THAT THE ELECTIONS WERE STOLEN FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE ANY.
      UPND AS AT NOW IS LIKENED TO A TERRORIST GROUP.
      THEY ARE SO BITTER FOR LOOSING FIVE TIMES.
      PF WAS FORMED VERY LATE AND THEY FORMED GOVT,WHY?
      SATA,MHSRIP WAS MORE MATURE IN THE WAY HE USED TO HANDLE HIS DEFEATS THAN THE UPND IS BEHAVING.INCITING PEOPLE TO TAKE THE LAW IN THEIR HANDS WHICH THE LATE SATA NEVER ENCOURAGED HIS SUPPORTERS TO DO.
      SURELY UPND IS FULL OF DULL PEOPLE,THEY WERE AWARE ABOUT 14 DAYS AND ALL WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE WAS TO GO TO CONCOURT WITH FACTS AND FIGURES AND PUT THEM ON THE TABLE.BUT BECAUSE THEY DIDNT…

  15. So what Bo Liswaniso?who will die or lose anything from that?THE BIGGEST LOSER HERE IS UPND BECAUSE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT,EDGAR LUNGU IS ZAMBIA’S PRESIDENT UNTIL 2021.NOTHING WILL CHANGE.YOU JUST MAKE YOURSELVES (UPND) LOOK VERY F00LISH!!!there is an end to any nonsense.instead of organizing your tonga party (UPND) for 2021,you are busy talking about 2016 elections which are long gone.EVEN AT KUOMBOKA CELEMONY THIS WEEK,ITS ECL WHO WILL GIVE AN OFFICIAL SPEECH AS ZAMBIAN PRESIDENT WHILE HH WILL JUST SEAT LIKE ANY OTHER VILLAGER WATCHING KUOMBOKA AND LISTENING TO ECL.even in civics if any pupil across Zambia(in Dundumwezi too) is asked to name a current Zambian President-the answer will be EDGAR LUNGU-simple!!

  16. I asked for proof that Hyena Hamuchindu was robbed of victory, and I have already got a big answer, A BIG SILENCE. No facts, no data, no clue.

    I acknowledge that your answer is correct.

    So who is clueless?

    Case closed.

    Next argument, please..?

  17. I just google Hyena in Tonga. It’s Hasuntwe.
    From now on I will refer to any one who calls another human being as Hyena as HAKAINDE HASUNTWE.
    That’s a new word in the bloggers’ dictionary. All this because the Hapless Hyena, Hakainde Hichilema has no respect for elders and leaders.

  18. Imwe seleni we are talking to Trump as soon as he is settled he will come and hear the matter in the constitutional court. On serious note HH, fat Albert and Pastor Pole Pole have embarked on a crusade they have been communicating with those Ambassadors and High Coms that HH feted at his house during the campaigns. Their agenda? Force the powers that be to impose trade sanctions, travel ban etc. on current crop of leaders so that they paralyze the government. This coming from a man who claims to care for the nation. Its all or nothing bane!

  19. Hachitu you really understand this issue. Additionally, were the learned lawyers representing UPND paid after they walked out on UPND? Has UPND asked their lawyers as to why they walked out out? Indeed the supreme law of the land as is dose not favour UPND. ADVICE: UPND re organise the party, ensure the supreme law of the land is amended of all contetious clauses. In other words make the rules of the game clear. As for now basing on the current rules of the game EDGAR is president. He may not be the best but he is there. Like Hachintu is saying knowing the limitation of time 14 days, UPND should simply had gone into facts and figures, which was possible in 14 days to achieve.

  20. Bo Liswaniso , don’t follow blindly , go read the constitution . Do not read it in a hurry like HH boosted last year it took him less than an hour to read and understand everything in the current constitution.

  21. I personally feel HH and upnd is entitled to think and believe what they so wish on who is the president of Zambia. I do not see the reason why we should boarder so much on whether he recognizes the president or not, as long as he is doing things within the confines of the law, he is allowed to dream that he is the leader although the ballot said otherwise. Too many “We will win no matter what” statements were said before the elections and we are saw who won so why bother? ZP and everyone should be more worried on whether he has military personnel saluting him or whether the portraits in official GRZ buildings have his image, if they do then there is a problem, if they don”t he is allowed to dream on. Shall a man deny another a dream? Shall a father forbid his child from believing he…

  22. If the PF know that their President won those elections genuinely why bother about who recognizes them or not? It is like marriage. If some relatives or friends do not recognize your marriage then there must be something that you did not do right.

  23. To state the truth UPDN did NOT win the election, UPND Lost the elections the moment they lost Lusaka and Copper belt period. The issue of hearing the petition is lost because we all remember that their lawyers were rushing to concourt when time was running out this means it had a time factor added to it. Then the hearing was delayed by the preliminary issues upnd brought up which had no substance. Hence time run out. Besides we all remember the people that stormed the streets of Lusaka in Jubilation the moment ECL was declared winner. Dream on UPND DREAM ON.
    Even if you do not recognize ECL was is the effect on the country NOTHING. So PF should also ignore UPND ignorance on issues. PERIOD AND WELL SAID CHAPWA.

    • The FACT is we all know who won the elections because the petitioners FAILED to put their petition in order so that it can be heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. This is like one pupil crying and accusing his friend to have stolen his pencil when he actaully dropped it on his way to school unknowingly. Lungu has nothing to prove we the people of Zambia proved it already through the ballot. My vote was not invain. Let it sink in your heads that he didn’t steal my votes but I gave him freely and willingly. Can the Court tell these people that ECL won and close this case so they can shove it below their### and forget for good!

  25. There are many opposition parties that don’t recognise the leader in many countries – and they are entitled to that choice, especially when its premised on the ground of illegitimacy or abrogation of natural justice. And for your information, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t exist or take part in national affairs. Is the President the one who determines who is allowed to engage in the political discourse of a country? No. He is only a servant. Its only those who think he is a form of omnipotence or a kind of God that seek permission from him for every action of their lives.

  26. Why cant PF leaders ask ZNBC to play videos show how Zambians celebrated ECL’s victory in Lusaka and copperbelt?didnt HH and his blind follower see how our streets were full of thousands and thousands of people who voted for ECL in 2016?what of ECL’s swear in ceremony at Heroes stadium?UPND must real.up to date,PF is more popular in Lusaka or Copperbelt than upnd.SURELY HOW CAN A PARTY(UPND) WHICH FAILS TO WIN IN TWO HIGHLY POPULATED PROVINCES IN ZAMBIAN CLAIM TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY?AMAZING!!!

  27. Nomatter how many words you use to defind your thieves edgar chakolwa lungu and his team you stole the vots.one you will come to that pf poor finshing is nothing but bakabwalala mwepupu mwe bampompwe.your president chakolwa lungu and his will thieves.

  28. We actually don’t need him to! He is not a factor! The president lives at State House. He (Hazaluza Hagain) lives in Namwala!

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