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Refusal to accept President Lungu will diminish UPND-PF

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Patriotic Front (PF) Kantanshi Member of Parliament Anthony Mumba has warned that the continued refusal by UPND leadership to recognize President Edgar Lungu as head of state will take the opposition political party into oblivion.

“They might just lose the focus and become irrelevant in the next five years; so they need to take introspective and check what they believe before they go into oblivion,” Mr Mumba said.

He said in an interview that it was irrelevant for UPND president Hakainde Hichilema and his leaders to continue living in denial when every Zambian including the UPND supporters had accepted that President Lungu was the head of state.

Mr Hichilema and his vice Geoffrey Mwamba as well as senior leaders have refused to recognize the election of Mr Lungu on claims that the last year’s elections were rigged.
But Mr Mumba noted that the continued refusal to accept that Mr Lungu the current president of Zambia had a potential to disturb the peace that the country was enjoying and derail the economic path.
“The Zambianshave spoken and I think the role of the opposition is to provide checks and balances to the ruling party so that we have development for every Zambian,” he said.

“But the stance taken by UPND that they will not recognize the president I think they are just wasting time because everyone has already recognized and the president; I think they should up their game otherwise they will be rendered irrelevant.”
He noted that the opposition political party had been associated with violence and antagonism since last year when it lost the general elections and urged the leadership to resume the role of the opposition party.
The parliamentarians, however said  President Lungu for exercising exceptional restrain even when some of the claims by the opposition party bordered on criminality.

Mr Mumba said it was also a myth and misconception for the UPND to suggest that the opposition political party was getting stronger on the Copperbelt.
He warned that becoming a member of parliament had become competitive and opposition parliamentarians would be wasting their time to fulfil their campaign promises because of the current antagonism

33 COMMENTS

    • Why should the diminishing of upnd bother a pf cadre? Pf is just dead scared of upnd, FINITO.

    • Ba makaka why are you worried about irrevant people leave them alone.popular people can not be this insecure.Every time its just hh this hh that,youhave no better things to do afterall HH has a right to his opinion.You could have easily resolved this matter with your so called win in 7 provincies by taking your win to court but alas instead you went into higher gear frustrating the court waiting for 14days to lapse indeed this cannot behavior of winners but riggers.

  1. These PF are like mosquitos, they have same voice and noise dispute being in millions. Who in UPND said Lungu is not president? They say courts should have declared him. Same like it happened at PF last convention, Inonge was tired of it, she just installed Edgar. But doesn’t mean Edgar is not recognized by PF.

    • When a PF cadre is “worried” that UPND will go into oblivion, you know he is lying. This Mumba should really be celebrating as PF will be left with Mutati’s MMD as the official opposition after UPND has gone into oblivion. #NeverTakeAdviceFromAnAdversary

  2. But why this fuss of forcing someone to accept you as a leader.. Isnt it supposed to be your leadership qualities to speak for you. Lets stop this forcing matter already and work coz we shall instead lose focus of leading the country

    • Samba: Its not an issue of forcing. Its recognizing that the country has a President, whether you like the president or not. I am sure no sane person likes a mosquito but we all recognize that Zambia has mosquitos. You can not continue saying that the country has no President when the legal system swore in one ECL as the legitimate president of the country. So even if you do not like or agree with the courts, the least you can do is to recognize the due process that took place to have ECL sworn in as President. Refusal to do that unfortunately is a criminal offence in this country. ECL has remained so steadfast that he has allowed all these characters to continue issuing criminal statements about the country not having a president. If it were in other countries things characters would…

    • Samba Ctd: If it were in other countries, these characters could have been in jail now. Other countries literally refused to hold elections at the due time. But here we are everyone in those countries still recognizes that they have a President and life goes on until the next date of elections. I hear shouts of Zambia is sovereign state so bla bla bla… Accept that we have a President and move on. UPND MPs were sworn in by the Speaker who was sworn in by the same President you are saying does not exist. Do you guys honestly have sane minds???

    • @ Miya….i was following your comment and commending you for a level headed debate until i read the last part asking about sane mind….like really Miya….what happened to discussing issues without injuring anyone.

    • @Miya

      It’s really very simple. The election is disputed and the only way forward to recognising Lungu is to hear the petition. Hoping and praying that people will recognise him isn’t working this time. Lungu and PF were banking on Zambian penchant for forgetting injustices quickly and moving on, but this time UPND is determined to see this case to it’s logical conclusion. A technicality doesn’t deprive one of their right to be heard. So advise Lungu to stop farting around the people’s rights and allow the petition to go ahead. Why is he afraid if he is so sure he won fair and square?

    • @Miya, which other countries do not allow dissenting opinions? DRC, South Sudan, Uganda, Zimbabwe? Is that your litmus test of democracy and decency? Why should Zambia be compared against third rate countries that are failed states?

  3. Why does this PF cadre think his opinion matters? My advice to this PF cadre is to leave UPND alone, if what he is saying is true then PF will laugh loudest. No normal person can receive an advice from his enemy no matter how good it might be.

  4. Antony Mumba should tell the Nation why UPND Leaders are refusing to recognize Lungu? Mumba wants to pretend that the 2016 Elections were not disputed and Petitioned. All the Petitioners are saying is let their Petition be heard and if Lungu can show that he won genuinely and fairly and the Court can declare him the Winner and duly elected they have no problem recognizing Lungu as President after the Petition is heard. If children suspect that their father is not their biological father and they ask the Father to prove paternity by doing a DNA Test why should a father refuse to do the Test?Why is Lungu refusing to do a Petition DNA Test to legitimize his Rule? Why should the Petitioners recognize a Vote Thief as a Legitimate President? Respect and Recognition are earned. They are not…

    • ALL ELECTIONS IN ZAMBIA ARE DISPUTED. BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A PRESIDENT. EVEN IN 1991 KK DISPUTED THE VICTORY OF FTJ CLAIMING THAT THE WOMEN WERE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE BLAH..BLAH..BLAH… HE EVEN RETIRED TO SHAMBALAKALE FARM IN DISPUTE. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT WHENEVER THERE IS A STUBBORN LOSER OF ELECTIONS, THE COUNTRY SHOULD STAND STILL. NOT AT ALL. THE BEMBAS SAY “PAKUPOKA ICINSENDA KU NKOKO, KU NAKILILA”. THE UPND CAN EASILY WIN THE 2021 ELECTIONS BY STRATEGICALLY ADMITTING THAT ECL WON AND ACCEPT HIM AS PRESIDENT, THEN WORK UPWARDS TOWARDS STATE HOUSE. BEFORE LONG, THEY WILL BE SMILING IN STATE HOUSE. BUT WITH THE CURRENT PRIDE, AND STUBBORNNESS, CHILDISH RANTINGS, THEY WILL GO NO WHERE. THIS PARTY WILL FOREVER BE CONFINED TO THE CORRIDORS OF OPPOSITION AND I CAN EVEN FORESEE A…

    • Whenever Bembas are quoted you know that advice on thieving and lying is about to be disshed out. No thank you. We will take our own advice from other sources, not Bembas.

  5. UPND IS BUNCH OF FAILURES.THEIR FOLLOWERS ARE BLIND AND THEY WILL FALL IN THE DITCH.
    14 DAYS THEY HAD TO PROOF THAT PF STOLE THEIR ELECTIONS WAS ENOUGH.ALL WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO WAS TO PUT FACTS AND FIGURES ON THE TABLE.BUT SINCE THEY DIDN’T ANY FACTS,THEY HAD TO START THE CASE WITH IRRELEVANT ISSUES SUCH AS LUNGU MUST VACATE THE OFFICE FOR THE SPEAKER.
    WAS THAT THE EVIDENCE THAT WE WANTED?
    UPND NOW IS A TERRORIST GROUP AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITIES.THEY KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN IN KANYAMA AND THEIR LEADER HAS NEVER APPOLOGISED.
    BEMBAS AND EASTERNERS WERE DISPLACED IN NAMWALA AND HH HAS NEVER APPOLOGISED.
    HIS BITTERNESS WILL KILL HIM ONE DAY.
    IT IS HIGH TIME THEY COME TO REALITY THAT THEIR IS NO CASE IN COURTS OF LAW AGAINST THEIR PETITION AND THIS SIMPLY…

  6. Today one only hears a good thing about UPND from a Zambian who originated from 3.5 provinces.meaning upnd is already irrelevant in the eyes of majority Zambians in 6.5 provinces!!Anthony Mumba is very correct because its a myth for upnd to think that HH’s upnd is popular on copperbelt or Lusaka.thats a dream!!!LET UPND CONTINUE WITH THE SAME NONSENSE OF NOT RECOGNIZING ECL UNTIL 2021 AND WE WILL SEE WHAT THEY WILL GAIN FROM IT.THEY ARE SIMPLY WASTING THEIR TIME.come 2021,if PF do well,we shall retain them in power.if PF fail,we will try others but not HH-period!!!

  7. but what puzzles me is why are PF so worried of not being recognized?if they know that they won let them ignore UPND.BJ ,SAMBA you are not worthy it to be Zambians.UPND HAS a right to opinions and that should be respected. watch south African parliamenet debates and EFF press confrences .President Zuma is called all sorts of names but you will never see the press or police brutalizing or ANC members singing aloud that you shud recognize our president.Here in Zambia when someone says any contrary views against PF he becomes an enemy of the state NOO NO let us learn to be civilized please.Why do you hate HH so much?Let us respect all tribes not thinking only onesided wrong.

  8. @ abamano THE PF IS NOT PLEADING FOR RECOGNITION BY UPND. BUT IT IS ACTING LIKE A PARENT. WHEN A CHILD GOES ASTRAY YOU DONT DISOWN HIM. THE FATHER OF THE BIBLICAL PRODIGAL SON WAS ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR THE LOST SON UNTIL THE SON CAME BACK TO HIS SENSES. PF LIKE A CARING FATHER WANTS ALL THE CHILDREN TO COME BACK HOME. HOME TO THEIR SENSES AND NOT NECESSARILY TO JOIN PF.

    • Really laughable that PF is like the proverbial father! PF are a bunch of bigots who go crazy when criticised. They even kill critics or anybody perceived to be in the opposition. #MapenziAndChoongwa.

  9. WHY FORCE HH TO RECOGNIZE LUNGU? WHO SWORE IN LUNGU? A COURT REGISTRAR ISN T IT. IS THAT BINDING? DID ECZ ANNOUNCE LUNGU AS THE WINNER? OR DID THEY JUST ANNOUNCE THAT THERE WAS A DISPUTE? WHERE WERE THE G12 CERTIFICATES? WHY DID LUNGU DROP BY SO MANY VOTES IN SOME PART OF LUSAKA AFTER A RECOUNT? WHY WAS A KENYAN FOREIGNER FOUND IN THE I T ROOM? SO MANY WHYS THAT IS WHY HH DOES NOT RECOGNIZE LUNGU. LET THE PETITION BE HEARD SO WE THE VOTERSZ OF ZAMBIA GET A CLEAR PICTURE. YOU PEOPLE FORCING HH TO RECOGNIZE LUNGU ARE JUST SAFE GUARDING YOUR JOBS SHOULD THE PETITION BE HEARD YOU WILL JOIN THE MILLIONS OF UNEMPLOYED.

  10. ba pf it is you who have rendered yourselves irellevant by asking hh to recognise your president who isnot legitimate when the case of dispute is in courts and that is why you find people today stand with upnd look at how people rejected the withdrawal of the country from icc . its clear indication that you are not waned. in shot look at how a traditional ceremony you go with batalions of soldiers police airforce just to force people to recognise you. its a shame.

  11. When part of Zambians refuse to recognise Edgar Chagwa Lungu as president is not an offence to be taken to court. If I do not recognise Anthony Mumba as a person that can not be respected and do not cause any harm to him, he Mumba has no cause to take me or any other person to court to solicit respect from me and others.
    Lungu has finally capitulated that he did not win the elections. This goes in the history of Zambia that he is an illegitimate president of Zambia.
    Posterity has it that Edigar Chagwa Lungu stole the elections results of 2016.
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  12. Mr mumba you are lost.its not every Zambian recognise lungu as president not even in th upnd.say that yourself recognise lungu /Edward as president.

  13. If as HE ECL says that according to the constitution he is president wher in the constitution does it say that anyone has to ‘RECOGNISE’ the incumbent as the president.
    By definition ‘opposition” parties do not recognise their opposition otherwise we would all have the same thoughts.
    Amos Chanda stated and reported in the LT that by 2021 there would be only one political party in Zambia. so he wants no opposition. Which democracy has no opposition or is zambia starting a new and radical interpretation of democracy.
    Furthe in HE ECL departure speech to Mongu he said he was duly sworn in. I believe that the constitution says chief justice must swear him. The chief did not swear him in so where are we.
    Court hours re 14 days another way at looking at this would be look at the terms…

  14. would be looking at the terms of employment of the court staff and see what their hours of work should be, sure it does not include sunday and saturday.

  15. even if it says “as required” then if the staff were not called in on saturday and sunday then the court would not be considered to be working. Majority of legal opinion canvassed indicates that 7 days, 14 days 21 days at law does not include weekends or gazetted public holidays. If the court isnt sitting then you can’t be there

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