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On LGBTQ rights president Joe Biden has just set a hot button for HH administration

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By Venus N Msyan

President Joe Biden use of the last month election in Zambia among examples of how democracy lives in the world has left many Zambians excited but definitely not settled on gay rights.

In his words, president Biden said democratic world is everywhere. Adding to other examples, he said democratic world lives in the young people of Zambia who harnessed the power of their vote for the first time, turning out in record numbers to denounce corruption and chat a new path for their country.”

He said this on Tuesday 21st of September 2021 at the UN General Assembly in New York.

Immediately after the speech, Zambian president Hakainde Hichilema posted on his Facebook page to appreciate president Biden recognition of the role that Zambia youth played in upholding and defending democracy in Zambia.

“We welcome President Biden’s recognition of the role that Zambia’s youth played in upholding and defending democracy in our country,” new Zambian president Hichilema posted.

“We echo these words, and look forward to productive conversations with President Biden’s administration while we are here in the United States,” president Hakainde added after quoting Biden’s statement on Zambia youth.

Though he didn’t mention Zambia, president Biden statement that we all must defend the rights of LGBTQI individuals so they can live and love openly without fear, whether it’s Chechnya or Cameroon or anywhere is another statement in his speech that directly points to Zambia.

The 15-year sentence of gay couple by the previous administration that led to the departure of former US Ambassador to Zambia Daniel Foote proved to the world that Zambia is not ready for gay rights. There is not doubt president Biden had that in mind as he was addressing the 76th UN General Assembly.

Highlighting productive conversations on HH reaction to Biden speech, it gives hope that the world may experience a different Zambia when it comes to human rights. Gay rights in particular.

But what the world needs to know is that Zambians see LGBTQ issue differently. Some see it as a religious issue, others see it as a cultural issue, while very few others see it as a human rights issue.

To be specific, majority of Zambians don’t see LGBTQ rights as a human rights issue but religious and cultural issue.

President Hakainde may choose to approach gay rights as a human rights issue. The problem is, if he does, he will be acting in the opposite direction. Majority of Zambians believe gay rights is a religious issue or cultural issue.

“We are a Christian Nation and that remains on the books. If this government at any one time wants gay rights, you will be the first to know but we are a Christian Nation, we continue to be who we are.”
Vice-president Mutale Nalumango said while answering a question on gay rights in parliament. An implication that though there may be few UPND members who see gay rights as human rights issue, in general UPND believe LGBTQ rights is a religious issue.

There is no doubt the Biden administration see GLBTQ rights as a human rights issue. In short, to have a productive conversation on the issue with Biden administration one need see the issue in the same way.

HH administration see gay rights different, hence president Joe Biden call for LGBTQ rights has just set a hot button for the new Zambian administration.

47 COMMENTS

  1. “………whether it’s Chechnya or Cameroon or anywhere is another statement in his speech that directly points to Zambia……”

    Zambia is not suddenly center of the world , bwana ……….

    The USA have more important things to worry about…….

    The USA are also aware that LGBT peoples are not murdred in our streets , but their human rights are an evolving issue…….

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  2. “Though he didn’t mention Zambia, president Biden statement that we all must defend the rights of LGBTQI individuals so they can live and love openly without fear,”

    That statement sums up the the author …he is just another one with nothing to write up.

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  3. Hot button indeed. We just hope that our President, HH who has displayed consistent statesmanship will be guided by wisdom on how to move away from that issue without annoying the US and their allies. THE MAIN REASONS PEOPLE REJECTED PF ARE NOT RELATED TO LGBTQ! So let them allow Bally to concentrate on what matters to most Zambians!!

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  4. LT’s obsession with homosexuality! Ironic that white people also use similar stupid justifications to oppress black people: even quoting scripture to support their actions from the Bible, which they wrote and also introduced to Africans to pacify and enslave them. It’s backwardass thinkers and closet homosexuals who are so obsessed with this issue and keep having to bring it up.
    How many useless articles as LT published, desperately trying to link a homosexuality agenda to HH? Zero relevance.

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  5. @Sarah, you are very right. Zero relevance. Let the man take the reigns, he has just started bringing our peace loving Zambians together and getting rid of the violence and lawlessness we have lived under these “alebwelelapo pamupando”. Take a chill pill, LT, and be calm.

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  6. Sex between men has been around in African cultures for centuries but considered a taboo and never talked about…yet people pretend that its a western culture

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  7. This are the jobs created for the youths , let us wait and see he has already started claiming compensation for the treason case.
    Those are his priorities as he settles in state house, congratulations to the youths of Zambia for the job welldone.

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  8. Agony is receiving handouts from LGBTQI countries. It can be considered as hypocrisy to borrow money from the same LGBTQI taxpayers located in developed countries. There is need for public policy based on research findings. Angola, Botswana and South Africa have taken a lead. Enjoy your life and leave other people in peace. Human rights can be considered a luxury compared to clothing, food and shelter. However, respect of human rights must be recognized for the rule of law and good governance to prevail. No peace without justice.

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  9. Do these gay guys have any idea how fat pum pum taste?? C’mon guys quit the madness there are alot of single women that needs to be ploughed outchea and also instead of analising a fellow of the same sex you can analise the opposite sex…

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  10. F’en gay s will never seen a light pa Zed whatever fake rights they maybe else where. Hopefully no time will wasted discussing this BS. HH administration is about economy..

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  11. Zambians are preoccupied with feeding their straight and gay children that’s it. Take them to school and later get jobs. We don’t have to agree entirely with the US. They need us more than we need them.

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  12. @ the Engineer, how would you like it if one of your children became a homosexual simply because you chose to allow the practice to be accepted and taught in society as something normal and a human right? The Bible clearly states that it as a detestable abominable sin. Accepting it as a human right constitutionally will automatically classify the Bible as hate speech that should be banned. Don’t be naive, this is a satanic agenda of the last days and the end of shame.

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  13. Twalemyeba ati is a sell out. You were insulting us. Now you can prove HH is in support of LGBT. That’s why he has even abolished Religious ministry.

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  14. I think you are forcing the topic. Focus on HH’s trips and what he is trying to achieve, he is setting the base for a good economy. By turning West, he wants deals that are well structured and fair and not enshrined in secrecy clauses that are onerous.

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  15. @Ndoleshyafye
    If one of my kids become homosexual how does it affect you?
    Besides who says the whole world religious believes are based on the Bible which you quoting? You need to learn to respect other peoples beliefs
    In short keep your bible beliefs to yourself. We’re in the western world are kids taught to be homosexuals? They are taught to respect other peoples belief and to be tolerant which is a human right

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  16. BRING IT ON !!!
    LGBTQ NOW IS YOUR TIME TO STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS
    IGNORE THE BUNCH OF HYPOCRITS ON HERE
    THEY DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE HOMOSEXUAL PREDITOR AND THE GAY/LEASBIAN NATURALLY BORN THROUGH NO CHOICE OF THEIR OWN
    YET ALL HERE PREACH THE BIBLE AND USE GOD’S NAME IN MOST BLOGS
    AND STILL DENY THESE TOO ARE GODS CHILDREN

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  17. I don’t support gay rights but I also know that there is no difference in the sin of being in government and plundering resources and being a gay or lesbian, they are all sins so PF should never ever get excited about HH and gay rights which the man has confessed he is not championing, but since PF has to look for faults in HH as a way of mourning and licking their wounds wo are we to stop them

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  18. Good on you #23 Tikki. Bunch of hypocrites! Do you know which country is world champion young girl impregnation? And underage pregnancies? Indeed, Zambia. And not a homosexual in sight! Go bow your head in shame!

  19. A Man putting his Manhood in another Mans anus and calling it intercourse is not a Human Right. It is an abomination and mockery of Gods word which we all follow as Zambians in the Bible

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  20. Christianity is about LOVE. Marrying or sleeping your fellow gender does not signify love because it changes to abomination. The earth belongs to God and all found in it. Let us respect God and everything set in His word. Let’s not turn Zambia to Sodom and Gomorrah. Mr President I beg you to pardon and set free those jailed for 15 years for the same gay related mischief and let them go their way free if they are still serving that sentence. Just tell them to refrain from that as they are God’s creation that should not indulge in such but respect God’s rights of their creation in Jesus Christ.

  21. Discrimination has no boundaries. It is wrong to discriminate against blacks, Jews, LGBT, albinos, people living with HIV and AIDS etc. Some people are born gay (genetical or hormonal) while others choose. Their human rights must be respected just like for other human beings. If it is okay to discriminate against gays for whatever reasons, then it must be okay to do the same against blacks or any other group may appear strange to what we are culturally used to. I hope some of you understand the perspective now.

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  22. flag Corruption scandals: 48 Houses Social Security Cash Luxury Presidential Jet Ambulances Fire Trucks Mukula Trees Ndola-Lusaka Rd Malawi Maizegate Fuelgate Swaziland landgate Zesco Loans Honeybee

    But if it is a religious and cultural issue, then why do ‘jail’ come in? If you ‘sin’, Christianity says you should be accepted and believers will pray for you to seek God… i.e. tolerance! Biden is a Catholic. And if you are uncultured, the elders will simply rebuke you and give you cultural lessons. So when and why did the issue become a legal criminal offence? I have said over and over, Zambians are a bunch of hypocrites, it’s not fun.
    By the way as a country we will probably not agree on everything with our friends and there’s a better way of diplomatixally navigating the hot button without upsetting these friends.

  23. Ndeloleshafye God bless you! This fake Engineer is also a homo sent to highlight what sick minds perceives as a human right. We are for what God says , period. Even leaving the bible out of the reasoning, its just so sick that a man should be putting his di*k where faeceaes are extracted from and put then put the same d*ck into the other fools mouth. You asked him how he would feel if his own child started doing these vile things in the name of human rights, why don’t you ask him how he would feel if his own wife got involved….oh am saying his own wife when he is gay. Oh even gay men call other men ati wife, ninshi apo chalikwata nefi myemfu fulu fulu ati my wife.

    Dr makasa also write ‘Enjoy your life and leave other people in peace.’ I wish Mugabe was still alive because he…

  24. Lusaka Times please don’t moderate my comments, all I have done is point out what it means when gay people advocate for what they do to each other as something that should be classified as a Human Right. Something even animals don’t do

  25. Point of correction, the previous administration did not jail those gays it was the court of law that sent them to prison because it’s what the law says.

  26. What is this thing about rights for wrong doers? Then include those thieves who suffer from a tendency to steal even if there’s no no need.

  27. Homosexual act are taking place in our male prisons every day in Zambia! What are the Christians in Zambia doing about it? If it’s okay to discriminate against LGBTQ, then Racism and Tribalism are also welcome in Zambia!
    Sex in all it’s forms is a personal thing. Why not allow each one to be accountable individually to their God about their sexuality?
    Why this Hypocrisy?
    Don’t we have pastors raping young women in their churches?

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  28. Homosexual act are taking place in our male prisons every day in Zambia! What are the Christians in Zambia doing about it? If it’s okay to discriminate against LGBTQ, then Racism and Tribalism are also welcome in Zambia!
    Sex in all it’s forms is a personal thing. Why not allow each one to be accountable individually to their God about their sexuality?
    Why this Hypocrisy?
    Don’t we have pastors raping young women in their churches???

  29. I place the LGBTQ discussion as trivial to the economy revitalization agenda of the HH administration! I see Zambian normal living through traditional ethics I was brought up with and norms that were respected in my community. Being modernized does not mean I discard Zambian ethics for foreign behaviors not commensurate with the beginnings of my life’s journey! I have respect for humankind and I care less about private preferences but will vehemently defend my ground against that which would want to draw me away from my ethical beliefs! I would rather Zambians discussed stopping pedophilia, rape/violence on women and, armed robberies or in a nutshell social discussion could focus on citizens’ daily safety among others if discussing national agenda issues are beyond comprehension.

  30. The two homosexual couple in Kabwe was jailed for 15 years by the previous administration but by the Courts and the last government via presidential legal authority the President Pardoned them free from jail.
    That distinction must be known or learned by the writer of this article. PF government lost and government changed to UPND but all called Zambian governments but the Courts that jailed them never changed. Even HH will or can pardon some.

  31. Zambia is a Christian nation. gay rights is something prohibited in the country. so heaven can come on earth, that wont pass a smell test in Zambia. its don’t ask don’t tell.

  32. Hi!

    I Love Zambia, my wife is from Zambia. We are all Christians, love your next one, what is Zambia afraid of ?? Gay so what ? Every man in Zambia would love to have sex with two girls who having sex with each other, but as soon the women are alone they are lesbian, and even worse if it should be two men having sex, but many women are dreaming about this, what is it to be afraid of ? A gay will never try to have sex with a hetero guy or girl. So Zambia its time to wake up accept all humans, lesbians, gays, Queer, transsexuell hetero´s we are all born by Jesus/God we all have red blood. No matter if we are black/white/yellow or red. Show love, show respect.

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  33. The homosexual movement is a satanic agenda. People allowed it in their countries and they took the opportunity to do worse. Now the LGBTQ people are attacking gender of male and female. They state that referring to a person as a woman discriminates men who choose to think of themselves as women. I’m quite surprised that people are playing ignorant on this platform as to where this abomination ends. In the US and Europe they are now a powerful lobby and even sanction countries that won’t allow their children to be taught this filth in schools . We don’t want it in Zambia and we reject it. Just as we reject people having intercourse with animals, I suppose you probably think there’s nothing wrong with this as well.

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  34. …….In the US and Europe they are now a powerful lobby and even sanction countries that won’t allow their children to be taught this filth in schools . We don’t want it in Zambia and we reject it. Just as we reject people having intercourse with animals, I suppose you probably think there’s nothing wrong with this as well.

  35. Human rights are in defiance of God’s rights. No wonder their origin is freemasonry and therefore those who support them support freemasonry.
    Homosexuality is a sure sign of Satanism.

  36. Zambians are fool.s, An outsider telling you what to do in the name of human rights! Surely when are we going to learn to make decisions on our own! Zambia is a sovereign state no one must force us to embrace homosexuality lesbianism and gay! No not even America….full stop. If Zambia can’t tell America what to accept or not. Why then must America decide on behalf of Zambia ! I miss Robert Mugabe, Kenneth Kaunda. Zambia a nation that is extremely rich yet wanting to go begging.. homosexuality lesbianism gay it’s not a right it’s hazardous, To all world leaders advocating for homosexuality lesbianism gay ask them to leave your wives and marry men and see if they can do that!

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