VICE-PRESIDENT Inonge Wina has challenged people alleging that the Patriotic Front (PF) has engaged Timor Consulting, an Israeli-based company to manipulate the 2016 general elections in favour of the ruling party to provide evidence.
“There is no relationship between Timor Consulting company and the PF government. Neither does this company have any relationship with State House nor the Electoral Commission of Zambia.
“Reports that the PF has engaged this company are a fabrication aimed at misleading Zambians,’’ Mrs Wina told Parliament yesterday.
The Vice-President was responding to a question by Chongwe Member of Parliament (MP) Sylvia Masebo (PF) who wanted to know whether Timor Consulting has a role to play in the 2016 general elections slated for August 11, 2016.
Mrs Wina said Timor Consulting is not known to the PF.
She said if PF wanted to contract a consultancy firm, it would have done so a long time ago.
Mrs Wina said Government would be grateful if information about Timor Consulting is provided.
But in a supplementary question, Sinda MP Levy Ngoma (MMD) asked if Timor Consulting exists in Zambia.
Mrs Wina responded that Zambians should not be misled by speculations being perpetrated by online media.
“There is merely hearsay, and that is what I can say. I know not this particular company. I do not think the PF needs to import a consultant to win an election.
“We have done it before, we did it without government resources and we won. What makes people think the PF needs such a company?’’ Mrs Wina said.
The Vice-President told the House that such allegations have potential to undermine the integrity of the PF and its members.
The Vice-President is disappointed that online speculation is being taken as truth.
And Monze Central MP Jack Mwiimbu (UPND) alleged that a former secretary-general of the PF was quoted as saying that a Kenyan organisation helped the ruling party to win elections.
But Mrs Wina responded that she is not aware of such claims by a former PF secretary-general.
“Please bring evidence. So that we know these companies that are alleged to be dealing with Timor Consulting,’’ Mrs Wina said.
As if even if this company did exist, she would agree and confirm to say “yes Timor Consulting is here to help us rig elections”
Produce evidence and challenge, otherwise this is mere speculation and it will continue gathering momentum as we get closer to elections. Then someone will start crying ati our vote was stolen.
Wina azalila.
If PF has engaged Timor Consulting to help it win the elections, then more power to them. Winning elections is about strategy, ruthlessness and guile.UPND is just mad their savior is too tight fisted to engage an agency like Timor Consulting. Look and learn Hecky Hecky No! While you are busy selling yourself abroad to disenfranchised audiences, Timor is advising Lungu to go to Bwengwa and Solwezi where he can gain a few new extra votes. If I where UPND, I will be looking to counter offer! But then again, HH is used to losing so he probably wouldn’t counter offer!
Just in case you continue claiming rigging even after losing the August 11th elections and wonder who could have voted for the PF……..I want to inform you that am a registered voter and voting for PF/ECL unlike majority of bloggers who are in diaspora.
Opposition, you are becoming useless now. Even you questions to Mama Wina are so weak. Lets help you a bit. Start from this article from the Post and then get more info from Fred. He is the best at this kind of digging. Article from the Post:
“TIMOR Consulting has advised the Patriotic Front that it will be difficult to manage the ruling party’s propaganda if it keeps denying that it has engaged an international consultant to help win the 2016 general elections.
In September this year, The Post reported that the PF had engaged Timor Consulting, an Israeli company, to help President Edgar Lungu retain power next year.
But PF secretary general Davies Chama refuted the story, saying the ruling party did not need any consultant to win the elections because he was the consultant…
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…ruling party did not need any consultant to win the elections because he was the consultant himself.
“I am not aware about it, and we don’t need a consultant. I am the consultant myself, I am the full package,” said Chama in reaction to revelations of President Lungu’s meetings with the Israelis.
However, following the exposè, Timor has written to the party, telling the leadership that refuting the story would not help matters.
“The primary response to such an article is to avoid further engagement with it. The party and its spokespeople should avoid proactively commenting on the issue, and relevant individuals must be instructed accordingly. Such approach is important, as it is incumbent upon us neither to lend credibility to the story nor to increase its profile and…
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..nor to increase its profile and cause it to be picked up by other news outlets, who may be perceived as fair in their dealings with the PF and President Lungu,” Timor stated.
“Whilst the above approach is our initial response, should the story continue to feature in the press, either through other outlets picking it up, or through a further ‘leak’, we must be prepared to strategically intervene using it as an opportunity to communicate our message. In this case, it is highly likely that party spokespeople will be pressed to comment by the media, and at this stage, a refusal to engage will be counter-productive, and be seen by the press as if the party has something to hide. It is of utmost importance that the party does not deny the existence of international consultants, as…
international consultants, as misleading the press on this subject will only encourage it to investigate.”
The company suggested a suitable response to questions on the subject.
“If pressed on the issue, the party should issue a clear statement along the following lines; As is common across the world, the Patriotic Front has engaged the services of international political consultants to assist with its public opinion, research and strategic planning. This is part of its commitment to running a modern, dynamic campaign, which is receptive to the will of the public, and utilises every tool to engage with and listen to each and every Zambian,” stated Timor.
“This is entirely consistent with our long held view that each Zambian counts, and thus, every vote counts. We believe that our…
We believe that our consulting team, working in concert with the party infrastructure and grassroots activists, will help us run a successful campaign, which will bring us closer to our ultimate goal: building a stronger economy which will improve the living standards for all Zambians.”
According to a proposal which it pitched to President Lungu, Timor Consulting, which has offices in London and Tel Aviv boasted that it had helped political parties win elections in Sierra Leone, Mozambique and Botswana.
source: Post News: By Mukosha Funga | Updated: 16 Nov,2015 ,08:46:58
http://www.postzambia.com/news.php?id=13283
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.We believe that our consulting team, working in concert with the party infrastructure and grassroots activists, will help us run a successful campaign, which will bring us closer to our ultimate goal: building a stronger economy which will improve the living standards for all Zambians.”
According to a proposal which it pitched to President Lungu, Timor Consulting, which has offices in London and Tel Aviv boasted that it had helped political parties win elections in Sierra Leone, Mozambique and Botswana.
Source – Post News – By Mukosha Funga | Updated: 16 Nov,2015 ,08:46:58
Nowonder EL has opted for Dora Siliya as running mate. Too much lies from the old lady.
You see same applies when HH says produce evidence that I sold the mines … Nothing is forthcoming but it does not stop the PF from peddling this albeit Sata carried out one of the most successful branding campaigns … So madam VP sorry Timor consulting doesn’t need evidence for this to continue because your own party has used this tactic too many times
MOTHER OF ALL LIARS & LIAR OF A MOTHER IS AT IT AGAIN – HOW can a WOMAN SINK SO LOW AS TO ALLOW HERSELF TO BE ABUSED BY RIFF RAFFS??????????
YOU WON’T BE ADOPTED AS RUNNING MATE – YOU ARE BEYOND USEFUL – Either “MUMBI” or “DOLLA TAANGALALA” will REMAIN USEFUL FOR CHAGWA!!!
Trusting the 90 days theorists is risk business, one will need to have all tracks covered to keep the crooks in check.
Listen to ZWD and you are doomed. PF is winning again, UPND should prepare the mind-set of their god (HH) for Retirement.
Kaili you are God and it is written in the prophesy of His Holy Humbleness Kadansa via walking with my hands together to show humbleness kaili
PF WON WITHOUT CAMPAIGNING MUCH WHILE HADOF HITLER WENT MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS.
PF WILL WIN EASYLY INDICATORS
*50 +1 FAVOURS IT
*IT HAS STRUCTURES EVERY WHERE TO WIN ELECTIONS
*DEVELOPMENTALS ARE BEING SEEN TO WIN SUPPORT
*ECONOMICAL CHALLENGES HAS PROVED PF IS STRONG TO WITH STAND INTERNAL & EXTERNAL SHOCKS.
ATI UKUBUTA KWE SHIRT BAKUMWENA MUMAPA. PF WE TRUST U. THE TEST WAS TOUGH BUT U PUT GOD FIRST TO SEE US THRU VOTE LUNGU ONLY
Keep on dreaming.Ulachibona chakasalahya kwale muukoze,come Augast 11.
A crooked way of responding to questions. Pliz don’t trouble yourself asking this crook. She is protecting her position to continue stealing from zambians.
With or without Timor, Zambians are geared to get rid of you on 11 /8
This is the problem when you say Zambians are geared to remove Lungu . What a rubbish and sweeping statement just talk about your self only. The Sata magic will not work for HH it was a rare one, just prepare your selves for the imminent defeat again. Even distributing beer to a few chaps on the road side will not help. It is clearly writtern on the wall the Star in ECL is very strong.
Madam, this story did not originate from online media. Why not just say it straight and say don’t be misled by my nephew through his paper. This where some would say no smoke without fire, how does one randomly make up such an elaborate story with evidence of a letter to the chief of intelligence? By the way, where is that elusive character X Chungu it would be best to keep tabs on him if I were opposition.
Why going in an election which you know will be rigged and later on complain when you lose? Which election in African has been described as not rigged? This is not HH’s year.
It’s part of the game in Zambian elections. Such false claims always surface before elections just to cause confusion. We are better off ignoring them with the contempt they deserve.
Madam Inonge since joining PF all answers you have given in Parliament regarding PF’s mischievous is either you are laying or not being truthful and all this is done with the full knowledge of your conscience that you are habitual lair.
Our current parliament has been reduced to a talking (gossip) shop where members like Mwiibu or is it Chumbu and his sister Musebo simply open mouths even when they dont have a thread of either circumstantial or documentation evidence. Their submission in parliament is all based on ZWD gibberish.
It reminds of Kenya’s 2013 elections where serial loser Raila Odinga’s opposition party alleged that Uhuru Kenyatta’s party had deployed a hacker, Superlock technologies Ltd, to manipulate the biometric system, real-time transmission streaming live to the central tallying centre in Nairobi. They tried to file their allegations to the supreme court but their evidence could not hold water.
So basically they were laughed out of court! Ahaaaaa, Africans, grass skirts, spears…the lot!
so disgusting woman..atase
What does this Grandma know…she is clueless they simply use her as a token and a figure head for the Lozi vote!!
Jay Jay, this is an assault on the intelligence of the Lozi! UPND has surely gone berserk.
Looks like UPND copied that strategy then. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge @Jay Jay! Banda in UPND is meant to Con Eastern Provence voters right?!…..see you confess without trying too hard!!
PF got a sympathy vote without campaigning. But this time around they will be judged on their performance. So stop dreaming my friend. Their are so many punched holes in the PF making it a very weak party in the coming election. Just see how they are chasing Miles Sampa the party they say is nothing.
There is evidence of a letter from Amos Chanda to Nkhoma the chief intelligent officer – so what is this woman denying. I challenge you madam to declassify the latter so that it can be published.
Ba fake Kambwili that letter you are talking about was written by zwd demons and published it on HH online media zwd. Its fake. Take it to police if you want and see if you won’t be jailed for forgery.
Zambian citizens are weirded out by this type of claim, time and again. UPND has no respect for the intelligent people of Zambia whom they expect to fool with fake data.
Get real @Kambwili. We are totally clued up on your lies! PF Again!
In Africa rigging is the term adopted by opposition parties or ruling party to mean conceding defeat. RB when he lost to sata said elections were rigged. HH also when he was defeated last year said elections were rigged. Sata when he lost to levy and later RB said elections were rigged. Why is it hard for our politicians to simply say I have lost and accept defeat. Only nervers mumba conceded defeat. The rest awe sure. Funny enough even the serial loser ati it’s rigging.
UPND cadres as you usual, the lady has said what she knows is the truth and you are busy trashing her! What do you want her to say? She has said that PF doesnt need a consultant to win elections because they won elections before without engaging consultants and you dont believe her eeh! So if you dont believe what she said then go hang yourselves.
Whether Timor exists or not upnd is losing again. The parametrers have shifted and in favour of PF.Very simple to understand. When guyscot or whatever you call him was instigating confusion in PF hakainde was half way or almost done with his campaigns. Edgar only campaigned for three weeks but still managed to win. Edgar had no access to govt resources in January but this time every thing is at his disposal. UPND no amount of noise making or propaganda will win you this erection. You thought ECL would not pass the constitution because of 50+1 but he did it. No magic or miracle will happen for upnd to win.
Shadreck Biembe si Zambia yanyoko to say HH will lose.we shall give him 70% in Augast.Simple twanaka na ba PF .
PF LIKE MMD, WILL BE THE WORST OF ALL THE PARTIES. MADAM INONGE LET ME TELL YOU THAT YOUR PF HAS INJURED A LOT OF CITIZEN IN MANY THINGS. WHY DONT YOU NOW SING THE MORE MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS TODAY? THINGS ARE NOT FINE. TOO MUCH LIES. THE PRESIDENT WENT ON TWO DAYS VISIT IN NORTHWESTERN PROVINCE WHAT HAS HE PROMISED PEOPLE THEIR? ITS TOO LATE FOR HIM. YESTERDAY THE MINISTER OF FINANCE IN PARLIAMENT LAMENTED THAT WE DONT HAVE MONEY AND POVERTY LEVELS HAVE DOUBLED THIS YEAR.
NOW WHO WILL WANT TO VOTE FOR POVERTY PRESIDENT AND GOVERNMENT. ONLY AN MAD PERSON WILL DROP A VOTE INTO PF
My entire clan and myself will vote for pf. To hell with upnd
What is the name of the political party which said they can not win an election alone unless with MMD and President said if Solwezi votes for opposition member of parliament will put North Western out of coverage but who told him to come back to North Western?
After what I ve gone through, I can go and put My vote on PF! This is 24th. And I m not paid and the other idiot is busy saying give us another mandate! Ba fikala! Mwaba nomufulo!
Zambia has a few known detractors that trade in deliberate misinformation. Masebo is certainly one of them. This type of ranting against PF and the gov’t is tiresome and the people of Zambia need to despatch them to Never Land on 11/08/16.
We are exhausted by having our senses heightened by psychotic lies!
Anyway if it were true….then more power to PF. Meanwhile HH has spent his time enlisting ‘international espionage,’ and his little cult followers are like…….yeaaaah we gonna win …because like er foreigners vote in Zambia? Pleeeease!
Just work /campaign hard. Those accusations won’t help you win
Okay, PF will rig heavily with help of massive voters who trust them, so whats the deal? Hek Hek has no message for voters, do we just change governments like pants imwe? Minimum PF mandate to develop Zambia is 10 years, so its a waste of time ba UPND!
UPND seems to be full of slow thinkers. They fail even to represent their people effectively. They see nothing good in this world except HH. To them he is God and they are ready to kill for him. Truth is PF is still very popular in the country and only dreamers can think of Lungu losing in August.
One reason why UPND can’t win is because they condemn everything, including good moves. They make us wonder what they will do if all that PF are doing is bad!
Couple of questions:
1. Who contracted “Timor Consulting”?;
2. What is the purpose of the contract between Timor Consulting and their Zambian principal? and
3. On which Statutory provision(s) they obtained working/temporary permit?
This woman is really a liar. An old woman like her sure lying like this? Today we have a letter in the Post Newspaper by Amos Chanda labelled “Highly Confidential”. talking about Timor Consulting Services. This is very serious for a person of her position to lie like this.
Well well well, with PVT conducted by each party contesting elections, how can one rig elections? I doubt it is even possible!
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