UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema, presided over a flawed and corrupt privatisation exercise that consigned thousands of Zambians to abject poverty after being rendered jobless in the process, President Michael Sata has charged.
Responding to Mr Hichilema’s letter of 19th July, this year, in which the opposition leader accused President Sata of misconduct at national events, the head of state advised Mr Hichilema to tone-down the levels of his grievances and deal with his bitterness and pomposity.
Mr Sata charged that the reality about Mr Hichilema’s character was that his track record proved that his interests had always been self-centred.
“This explains why you are a principal beneficiary of one of the country’s most fraudulent economic policies that resulted in the reckless selling-off of assets of our parastatal companies, thereby condemning many of our people to joblessness, poverty, breakdown of families and even premature deaths, while you amassed gluttonous wealth at their expense.
“What is even worse is that you, the self-seeking prime recipient of this deceptive policy today wants to be speaking for the same people whose poverty situation and misery you participated in creating,” Mr Sata said.[pullquote]“This explains why you are a principal beneficiary of one of the country’s most fraudulent economic policies that resulted in the reckless selling-off of assets of our parastatal companies, thereby condemning many of our people to joblessness, poverty, breakdown of families and even premature deaths, while you amassed gluttonous wealth at their expense.[/pullquote]
In the response dated 23rd July 2012, Mr Sata alleged that Mr Hichilema was too bitter and frustrated to make meaningful contribution to national matters and that this was clouding his judgment.
Mr Hichilema had accused President Sata of trivialising and undermining the Office of President on issues affecting the nation.
But Mr Sata urged Mr Hichilema to learn some humility and do his best to develop love for all the Zambians even those from different ethnic backgrounds so that he could become a constructive leader.
“Reference is made to your letter, in which you elected to give to the media even before it reached my desk. That conduct alone demonstrates the ill-will and babyish approach on national matters.
The bottom-line is you still have a lot to learn about Government and the way it operates.
“Your lengthy letter is nothing but an open insult to me and its contents do not deserve my response because that is not what you were looking for. My young brother, your current bitterness-laden-ranting will not help you in your political career,” the President’s response read in part.
[Times of Zambia]
‘one of the country’s most fraudulent economic policies that resulted in the reckless selling-off of assets of our parastatal companies’. But Mr. Sata, you were part of govt. for 10 years when this was happening. Thats why honarable people like Mwanawasa resgined.
So in short you are saying he knows what he is talking about.
Many times Some ministers may not know tricks happening in others ministries. Sata was not Minister of Commerce and industries where privatisation was being carried out. He never even met HH in privatisation and agreements. A lot go on that one can not know everything. How come Sata did not handle Zamtrop monies? or was not signing mining contracts? etc.
Sata was fully aware of FTJ’ S SAP. These decisions were made in cabinet meetings in which sata was part. so its their govt with FTJ that presided over such ccorrupt privatisation nnot private citizens….Shooting in one’s foot!
Floyd Chitalu you are on the point. One addition though is that the Privatisation Policy itself (where Sata participated in making) was well intended. It was based on advise from WB/IMF. The execution however is where things went wrong. Sata was not anywhere near that. This is where crooks stole and the policy became fraudulent.
Its very true wat Mr President has said.we should not forget so easily people!! Can HH surely rule this country?He got his wealth from the selling of our mines and left people with no work as most were retrenched by the new owners and he says he can eradicate poverty?How?HH chimofye na Nevers…….they are all dull chaps.
Sata is big embarrassment , why can’t he just shut his loud mouth, collective responsibility is a virtue this thug was at the helm of power that messed our country, let him not remind us of his evil deeds and his selfish third term bid. Shaa just for once behave like a president
Very funny. SOUNDS LIKE AN EDITORIAL FROM THE POST. I GUESS ITS EASY TO KNOW WHO ACTUALLY WROTE IT.
you are very right.WHY DONT YOU ARREST him if you have evidence that he stole.Elias Chipimo was the legal advisor from Coprpus Globe particpated
Iliko bad!
Hahaha, Mwanawasa in 1993 fired sata for corruption. HH was never in govt BUT was just like many other firms given consultancy services. He did his part and SATA as a minister then never raised an eyebrow. I find the president’s response immature and an attack on HH even over things he did not raise.
you obviously dont know the full truth of what transpired.How do you oversee the privatisation of a company and later become its chairman-that is corruption.whose interests was he serving if he was eying the chairmanship-obviuosly his own and not the tax payers.By the way lm talking about sun hotels of which he is chairman when he forsaw its sale to the current owners
Ican see one of you is not getting the point right, HH was by then a business consuntant who was selected from the Govt of SATA who was alson a Minister at the time privatisation was going on.Why then did mr sata being a decision maker at the time allowed what HH was doing. The beans was spelled out along time ago.If he really love the people , why didnt he advise his Govt at the time of all these processes. HH was in business and what he did , he didnt act alone. There were some other people on the desion maker pannel. Both Sata and HH are to blem when it comes to this issue. They are all Zambians who were supposed to protect the interest of the peopl of Zambia.
HH claim to the presidency is that he is a businessman-but he aquired his money by screwing the workers just as aaron chungu of access finance and the late brian musonda who were the other liqiudators
Yes those parastatals were sold for a song. The change from autocracy to demogracy was done without due regard to the adverse effect on the population. In their megalomaniac desire to get rich they did not pause to consider the careful steps that needed to be taken in order to cushion the impact such a change inevitably brings. When others were dying from the chaos that followed, a few were smiling all the way to the bank with ill gotten wealthy at the expense of the Zambians.
My question which needs an honest answer is, why is it that both the previous regime and the current one know about HH’s wrong doing and yet they can’t prosecute???? PLEASE I NEED AN ANSWER.
Because when a policy is put up by government and one finds a loophole and takes advantage, the government cannot prosecute because there would be no case to answer. However, the intergrity of the doer is what remains at stake. This is what the president is talking about. Some people have gotten away with murder by claiming temporary insanity or self-defence. But in the end, we all know that Kantwa killed Chite.
Chiluba and HH FLASHED all the the documents in the toilets at state house… The only sources of evidence we have is in foreign hands… But the government is working toward retrieving some of it… But the nasty bottom line here is that, dealing with HH in court could be a national sensitive issue as the present government is bound to be accused of tribalism or anti- southern province… So the issue at hand is so delicate and tricky indeed!!!
Hmmm,excellent response characterised by good thoughts and english.If you can argue this then there must be something terribly wrong with ones sanity.
Ba wisdom i might not know you but i believe you are such an excellent and intelligent man. we every much need people like you in our Zambian Society Give credit were it is due keep it up
It was not HH at fault, but the government that allowed him to do that job at the time.
There is no shed of a single lie in what the president is saying… Only those you are under 5s can’t remember that sickening period when our precious national asserts were plundered and greed people like hh fatten their pockets…
Ka dora siliya was part of an mmd regime but she bow the soul responsibilities of sourcing dubious ventures, so even though President Sata was in government as ### 1 advocates,He was not part of the hh inner circle!!!
This blind loyalty is what is killing this country. The president held in cabinet and as minister without portfolio was third in hierarchy and you said he was not in the inner circle. These people as cabinet made the final decisions and should be held even more accountable than HH who was a mere advisor
Sata committed more sins against zambia as a UNIP leader and continued his mind-boggling misdeeds in mmd.HH is a fine representation of what zambian leadership should be.The marriage of convinience between the post and pf will one day peter out.
HH is not presidential material mister! Sata as at now is better than HH, Nevers, Milupi, Miyanda and Nawakwi. Chipimo will certainly be President of Zambia and not HH the bitter brat.
CNP, Does it Matter who wrote it? Government has scribes whose task is to write speeches on behalf of there superiors, ministers , perm secs… etc and indeed the President. Theres is to just approve and append their signatures to it. Whats important here is Ba Sata has responeded and pretty well I might add.
HH never committed any crimes mr president other wise he could have been locked up by now , you were in government that so you are part and parcel of what happen not HH who was just a director of some kind you can not fool us!
UKWA, since you have such privileged information, why are you instructing the law enforcement departments to act?
privatization was dubiously implemented by HH and one Valentine Chitalu!!! How come Ukwa doesn’t talk about this – if chitalu ever ran fro presidency, ukwa would be on his case like a fly
VALENTINE CHITALU IS ALIVE AND WELL.ARREST THEM IF THEY STOLE,PERIOD
Please leave Chitalu out of this … Valentine was the most credible guy we had at ZPA and when he could not stop Chiluba’s loot and HH’s appetite for liquidation fees, he personally resigned to join CDC.
So, please don’t include him in this issue. In fact, he and Ronald Penza were very methodical in the way they were handling the privatization process but Chiluba wanted to move faster and steal quickly and when they advised him otherwise, you know what happened to Ronald and Valentine could not continue serving a wicked master, he left.
These two were the best jewels we had in the privatization process and after they left/gone everything became free for all. We could have done it the Boris Yetsin way and 80% of that wealth would have been among us through leveraged buy-outs (LBO)
UNDER FIVE FOR SURE….
Who were the policy makers at that time??
Chiluba and HH
Mr . tembo or whoever Bemba you are,
It is a lie to claim that HH was a policy maker. HH has never been in Government. Your Blind loyalty to your fellow Bemba Sata will destroy the country. Stop with the lies already.
mr president was actually third person from chiluba during that 10 years of fraudulent economic
polices, in short one of the initiators.after failing to run the industries they had to liquidate them and hired someone with knowledge on how to go about the liquidation,hence hh was hired.when you kock down a person with a car the motually attendant should not be condenmed for taking care of the cops but the one that causes death
Ka Chiluba was a tricky master, even though it appeared in public circles that Sata was a third person to Chiluba… Chiluba hated Sata to the core. Thats why Sata was not appointed as part of the sourcing and deal making inner circle… Only HH was a trusted servant of Chiluba only in private and hidden to the public… Mafia at work!! TITO Chiluba….
Mr,. Tembo or whatever Bemba you are,
This is another lie. HH and Chiluba have never been friends. Chiluba hated HH. Chiluba was a thief like many other Bemba’s including Sata and maybe even yourself (I don’t know). You are trying so hard to taint the image of HH through your childish propaganda, but it will not work. HH will respond and put this matter to its logical conclusion i.e. exposing Sata and his cronies at Post. This later was written by Ka George Chellah, the same bemba chap who destroyed Mazoka. You sons of Kolwestans, your time is UP!!!
Mr Sata, for a long time you have been singing about the ill gotten wealth of HH in your campaigns you have been talking about this issue and i must believe you must have overwhelming evidence,why not turning such to your Police. So that HH is arrested , (persecuted ) prosecuted and send to Mukobeko.As always those are just outbursts from plot 1 which we must ignore and after all People who were serious against corruption resigned Kasonde,Arthur Wina, Nkumbula,Aka,Sondashi,Mwanawasa etc.Where was Cobra? In MMD most perceived corrupt Govt of Chiluba.Can we say he is clean, not at all.
Politicians just sicken me. Both these two so called leaders were part of that regime. MCS was number 3 and HH was actively selling the assets on instructions, but who doesn`t know that he personally benefited. At the end of the day it is the common person that suffers. Both of them are properly insulated.
The president needs to be above such petty games. Surely, the paper bearing the letterhead “President of the Republic of Zambia” cannot be used for such low level attacks. Why doesn’t Sata reply on PF paper in his capacity as party president? We do not need such in a country where the challenges are enormous and the future is looking bleak. How do you start talking about hatred and tribalism when the issue here is your comical performances at serious events? Mr. Sata has not answered why he chose to be a comedian at the SADC and Bush meetings. We need an end to that behaviour!
He will always say that about HH, this guy does not think. Wasnt he part of that government? And this ‘HH is just bitter’ phrase is too much already. Just deliver guy…HH is not bitter he is just waiting for his time and if you keep focusing on him you will loose it… kikiki actually you have already lost it….loser.
Madam T, careful the way you comment. it is one thing to draft policy and it is another thing to implement. Sata could have participated in putting the framework but he did not execute it but the experts in the likes of HH who saw an opportunity to steal from Zambians. who has proof of Bembas being thieves? people always talk about Bembas being thieves, what have they stolen that you cant mention…one tribe in Zambia was given the responsibility to run mines in Zambia, did they succeed, no! why then should we give them the presidency to ruin the nation. political parties like the UPND should just disband because they will never this country. after Lungu finishes his term in 2021, Chipimo will take over.
If he was corrupt, investigate him like you the rest of the former government officials. As a president you must present facts, if he was corrupt, arrest him. The fact that you have not done so indicates that these accusations are baseless. You! as “the king cobra” have one of the world’s most venomous mouth filled with insults. Please present something tangible, in other words, be presidential in your replies!! You really are a CNP!!!
Well it takes one venomous mouth to know another!
One’s thinking abilities can be judged by his/her previous performances, right or wrong.
UPND: 26.76%, 25.32%, 19.70%, 18.17%;
MMD: 28.69%, 42.98%, 40.09%, 35.42%;
PF: 3.35%, 29.37%, 38.13%, 41.98%.
Some one is really sinking his party incrementally downward. To dig yourself out of that sinking deep is not easy especially if everyone becomes aware that you are sturbon, selfish, and with poor judgement on public matters. 2016 there we come. Loosers will definately be loosers.
So sata confirms that the MMD and him as the third person in govenmet enjoyed corruption and left HH scot free up to now.why didnt he resign live LEVY.why did levy resign by the way; Why not arrest him instead of alarming the nation for the forth time about the same issue. Use your PF POST to DID and tell the nation how HH stole..JELOUS,JELOUS of his genuine riches..Only certain tribes believe is riches of withcraft and theft cos they are llazy….
Being in government, when you are not head of state does not mean, the buck stops with you.
And for your info, The state is getting ever closer to getting Rupiah Banda answer for his sins. Watch this space.
The policy of privatization was sanctioned by Sata and his friends in the government of the day. HH had the mandate to carry out the policy. So Mt Hyena what you are talking about is total no sense. In fact now we know that YOU as part of the government of the day sanctioned
“one of the country’s most fraudulent economic policies that resulted in the reckless selling-off of assets of our parastatal companies”
You need to be arrested in 2016 and charged accordingly
All the way from Australia just to be trading insults and foul name calling? Australia is civilized they don’t use that foul language you are using. Learn how they do it where you are and teach bad mouthed Zambians who post insults. What an Engineer abroad!
Its really shameful to the bloggers’s family that a safe proclaimed engineer like you in foreign shores could only be associated with a foul mouth! Educated folks like you should be in the fore-fronts advocating for matured politics in Zambia and not insults which in actual sense lead you to nothing… shame mr. engineer indeed!!!!
Good Job Mr. Engineer, I agree with you totally. I too am an Engineer and I know how we Engineers think. We use Logic and Facts. We have strong backgrounds in Math and thats how we regulate our lives. Greetings from America to Australia.
When the praise team leader FRED m’membe announces the chorous “HH is bitter” ALL the govenment officials, president respond in unizon “HH is biteeeer” HH is biitteeeerr””” Is pf still celebrating 2011 victory surely?? Time is running and let them defefnd themselves maturely instead of singing that bitter chorous and if they are all dull choir members of Fred
But he is very bitter and we all know that only some blind Tongas like you can’t see it
Then bitter is sweet. Cos HH is really attracting much attention from all corners including the POST..all the best. By the way am not Tonga /Bemba. Am just Zambian.
So funny the courts found the post editor in chief guilty of stealing money that belongs to the zambian people through DBZ and the president up to now has not said anything.mr sata can you prove to the people of zambi through your courts that HH stole let the courts find him guilty like the way they found muemmbe nd his fat friend the DDP.Just listen to the young man’s advice alot of people are not happy with your family foresty in govt your government is to tribal it does not represent a national character its a regional 1 so please stop calling HH a trablist coz he’s neva bin n govt to appoint his relatives like u hav done nd snr please tone down you have nothing 2 lose you are the president.
Sata was never in charge of the govt that did privatisation. he can not take the blame for being part of it. however HH was in charge of the entity privatising companies. he may have been number 3 but was his voice heard? I wish HH could tell us if he never benefitted from any actions by way of him having privelleged information
It was Valentine Chitalu who was in charge is still around and well.
HH benefited from the sales of the mines. Today we call him rich because he stole our money and because of that UPND will never rule this country. We are the people that vote and when we say no to a candidate, you cant go through.
Those of you bloggers who think HH acquired wealth genuinely, please tell us how he did it. I need money too.
Could you also tell us how he got it in crooked way with evidence
HH like many good tonga’s started by inheriting a few animals and a few parcels of land. He is a Trained Businessman, Chartered Accountant so he used the expertise he acquired in Britain to rise in Business. Grant Thornton was what elevated him to preeminence. The same people who think HH is corrupt were also claiming Mazoka was a cattle rustler or whatever. The fact is just that People in Southern Province are very hard working and extremely smart. You will never find lazy hungry children in Tongaland, I know cause I have lived their with them. I too own cows and farms in the Monze and Choma area. We are just damn good. Does that answer your question???
But some bloggers never sieze to amze, Pipo have forgotten just how we were humiliated by those corrupt policies and the fraudulent privatization-And this talk about lowering the presidence doesn’t make sense, can ka hikhik take pride in uplifting yo own ego when masses are swimming in poverty,and u jst want to feel yo self that yu ar president when yo pipo are suffering it doesn’t make sense,kanshi eko kengabela ka pres. kuti twachula sana no ku yumfwa kuli ka hik hik……
I don’t agree with you when you praise your province like that. There is no single province that can stand alone in Zambia, we all need one another. There is no man more superior than others werther tonga or non tonga. if you want to ride on tribe in order to get to plot one you will be frustrated more and more. Have you ever heard a bemba campaign on tribal lines…never! they just know how to talk that is so.
Have you ever seen relief food going to northern province in the history of Zambia…never but we have witnessed times without number in the southern province.
in conclusion, tribe has never won any one elections in Zambia.
HH could have animals and what not but that does not make him presidential material but a good business man. so don’t mix the two; money and…
Yaba….. back to issues that affect the common man. Water and power situation in Lusaka is quickly becoming unberable…………………….!
this is imature response from Sata. It appears this was done by mmembe….sata must stand as a leader not kaponya.
Sata must arrest HH if HH committed any offence or just shut up. Same on RB own up or shut up.
HH is clean period. Sata was number three.
MOTOR MOUTH. The president should stop membe from writing press release for him. Mmembe’s bitterness about HH is embarrassing the president.
CHIPIMO JNR for presidency 2016..we tired of Sata,HH and the rest of these old fashioned politicians who only insult each other everyday
Mr. Sata is a very good man. He has a good heart. Unlike chiluba who never forgot quarrels, Sata easily put the old behind him. HH, Sata and Banda have a lot in common. They dont hate permanently. Look at HH and Banda. Who thought they would be close baddies. Look at what Banda did to Chiluba who had caged him over the fake Black mamba which was hatched by BY Mwila. HH and Banda have put the past in the interest of the nation. On the other hand Mmembe is a son of the devil. Like chiluba, if mmembe hates you, he will come over to your funeral and urinate in your grave. Very devilish. I have met sata in security circles as a tripple informer of M16, CIA and KGB. He is a damn good guy
For once Sata(n) try to be presidential man…. He still behaves like a hooligan, even when the honour of incumbent republican president has been bestowed upon him. Your colleague requests answers on serious issues – you respond as if you are talking to your uncles and cousins. Lost cause indeed!!
HH ,Aaron Chungu of access finance services ,the late Brian Musonda of BDO all gave themselves golden envelopes and left poor workers empty handed and hh now flaunts his wealth as credentials for becoming president.Absolutely immoral.He is like the oligarchs of russia who profited from corrupt privatisation under boris yeltsin
I agree wd #21.surely our president shd be above such petty issues! Ds is jst embarasg!Y cnt he instruct IG to arrest HH n charge him instead of jst singing about his bitternes?m fade up of comed yapa zed!
Man of action…kekekekekeke
And the song goes on and, on and on, and on……………………
HH has worked with SATA,BANDA, BANDA has worked with HH, JOKED with SATA. their problem is FRED MEMBE.
Fred membe is a devil and will always want to bring division among them. HH , SATA, BANDA… be mindful of FRED .HE IS A DEVIL,.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha HH caught in the action Grant Thornton man,I think at this point in time HH would have been dinning with Don Chichi if he was alive.Get back from your slumber and learn more about governance not economics.
My comment is on the current tendency of the President to use either his press assistant or presumably someone from the Post to respond to attacks on his behaviour. I know Presidents are helped in speech writing, but I think this ‘takes the biscuit’. How many times has Sata actually been heard to respond personally and directly to HH, RB or others? As this goes on, the language in those ocherstrated specially written responses becomes less and less connected to Sata himself. They read as if its Chellah himself or someone from the Post who is personally embroiled in the issue. Sata might order a reaction, but the more he steers clear from it himself, the more it appears detached from him.
Even if, and even when one has riches whatever the source, but when the thinking is not in line with electorates the will just use sangwapo and eat your money with you. Ben Mwila commonly known as BY tried it. He has been a filth Rich Man in Zambian circles, but I am sure he lost so much of his riches, and surprisingly never became president of Zambia. I don’t know how much he is worth now. HH you may be on BY’s band wagon, just wait. I will pretend campaigning for you and later vote for someone else. After all we swing between and among parties, we have no political inclination (capitalism, communisn, humaninsm, socialism) everything goes. I am just waiting to eat with you, come 2016.
Because most bembas like you e chitalu hate tongas regardless of their qualifications.. tribalism at the heighest
# Floyd chitalu which part of the topic at hand are you referring to?? Your posting is typical of defitted person who is too big headed to accept.
I have seen and come across a lot of response letters by responsible leaders or people in authority, it is rare that you find they raise issues of one being pompous, self centered etc.
Am sure the head of state can address the mans queries without speaking the way he has. To make other feel you are there for them even when they insult you is best to ensure you respond kindly while addressing the matter at hand, harsh words for harsh words will not solve anything
WELL SAID MR PRESIDENT
“But Mr Sata urged Mr Hichilema … to develop love for all Zambians even those from different ethnic backgrounds ….” This advice coming from a brazen tribalist is laughable. Or is it a question of “do what I say, not what I do”?
this Chellah Fellow will cause more harm to PF let him go and learn how to make presidential responses teach him some manners he is now turning state house into a haven of insults.Mr President we know you as a man of action please fire your press secrretary with immediate effect or send him for a course in manners.
@21, Mwana Chinondo :
Iyee ubututu ba @Mwana Chinondo! Sata is being attacked and written to in his capacity as the republican president NOT in his capacity as party (PF) president. Get it?
under five na matukuto yakwe
Sata was fully aware of FTJ’ S SAP. These decisions were made in cabinet meetings in which sata was part. so its their govt with FTJ that presided over such corrupt privatisation nnot private citizens….Shooting in one’s foot! On public policy;
Anyway, back to the story at hand. The biggest problem I see with people like HH is that they somehow feel more entitled to their opinions than the rest of us. Especially those of us whom they perceive to be less educated. Just look at the way HH and his UPND vehemently defended and supported the “DEGREE CLAUSE”! This is the kind of disease most “SOME OF US” in Zambia suffer from—-TOO MUCH EDUCATION WITH A BANKRUPT SENSE OF WISDOM!
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Just look at what another person with a big academic title, “Dr.” (Nevers Mumba), behaved the other day. He has somehow convinced himself that his feelings and opinion matter more than anybody else’s; damn what the Constitution says! He has even deluded himself into thinking that he is entitled to show up at the State house any time, hour, day, week, or month without an appointment and demand an audience with the republican President, damn the laid down protocol and etiquette! He is even willing to make an ass of himself for it.
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If HH was a serious person and genuinely wanted to advise or state his concern on National issues to the President, he could have written to him in confidence and wait for his response, or lack thereof, without unnecessarily alerting the media about it. Why did have to involve the media before the letter even got to the President? I mean, what were his motives and intentions here; to embarrass the President?
Sadly these are the so called “educated” Zambian politicians who seem to be seriously deficient in their political leadership roles. And the person they have nicknamed “CNP” seems to be walloping them hands down!
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Sata may not be the most formally educated person to ever have occupied State house, but lack of formal education should never be mistaken for lack of political smarts and abilities. HH is a novice compared to Sata when it comes to playing the political game. Sata has plenty of STREET and POLITICAL smarts HH will probably never match in his entire political career.
What will political experience do for you and me, or more so, the average man on the street?
@mark:
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he answer is actually; NOTHING! But it will do a lot of damage to “Baby” Hichilema’s political career if he keeps up with these unnecessary fights he is fond of picking with the President. That’s the political game I am referring to that HH is likely to lose, and lose big! After they are done with him, he will remain the shell of himself.
As the saying that the stubborn fly follows the corpse to the grave. And to the extent that it got itself stock to the drape on the coffin when it is lowered, will it definitely be buried with the corpse. This for sure is the sound warning for UPND party members it time to run and run for your life, UPND is about to be lowered in the grave
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What people like HH should understand is that M.C. Sata spent decades observing and learning the art of politics before getting to where he is today. In spite of his education, HH will do well to slowdown, take the free advice from the President, and learn from the pros. But, I doubt people like HH listens to anyone. I doubt he even has the patience of a “natural political leader” to let himself politically mature before taking a stab at the Presidency.
True to the characteristics of the “SOME OF US”, HH always wants to jump to the front of the line without paying his dues and ignoring all his political inadequacies—-and they are quite plenty!
UMWAICE CHITOMBWA ALIKWATA ICIKONKO CA KULUSA AMAIRECTIONS ICA NTAMBO. I HAVE NEVER SEN UMUFIMBILA LIKE CHITOMBWA’S. AKAFWA. CHITOMBWA DOESN’T EVEN SMILE KUCIKONKO. MA POLITIKS FYE AYO MWANA, UKAWINW LIMBI NGA WAUMFYA ADVICE BELEKWEBA ABAPITAMO. LEADERS ALWAYS HAVE A LONG HISTORY.
It seems HH’s wealth really gives Sata great envy. At first it used to be he should be investigated how can a man at his age have so much wealth. When he just became president he claimed HH unlawfully bought his house from Lima Bank, when it was realised that that information was not true the president went quite. Sata in his letter claims to understand how govt operates very well. I thought that meant that he knows that privatisation was a cabinet decision a cabinet of which he was a member of. HH was a private consultant hired to perform specific services for which his firm was paid by ZPA. Who is to blame for privatisation the one who decides to sell or one who performs some duty during the sale? And there are people who don’t see anything with Sata’s claims.
ve blogged many times about HH aka under 5 aka boko haram commander aka chimbwi no strategy(cns), store from the poor through privatisation, enriched himself throwing most of our pipo into severe povert and to their early graves. Hh shows off with blood money.the fact that grz hasnt moved in to make under 5 account for his wealthy is not innocence on his part.
The tone and language of this response is not Sata’s. It doesn’t take an intelligent person to know the source of this response. Clearly someone from Bwinjifumu has a hand in it. The diabolic language of hatred, frustration, pomposity etc is exactly the language of the post news paper. I am wondering how they missed their beloved word tribalism in this response!!!
One wonders when the petty (party) politics will stop!
These are squabbling leaders.
Over what?!
Silence is golden when in high offices.
Power comes with respectability.
One cannot be responding to all the tantrums!
Hh threatened to sue fred mmeembe and the post for reporting that he corruptly acquired the house he is staying in from lima bank. Its now 9 months, no court case to the effect has been before the courts of law.its now true he acquired it corruptly next to late FTJ’s house coz birds of the same feathers flock together. No womder he cried the loudest when FTJ died who made what he is today.
…and it goes on and on… yawn…
@ Tony Blair, And what is stopping GRZ from moving in considering that they are following everybody else. Why not HH their ark enemy? Lets be honest with ourselves, HH made his money through hardwork. Being envious won’t draw us anywhere near what HH has achieved.
This is a wrong president always findings faults in others when he has been apart of corrupt MMD. Its high time he accepted his part in missmanagment of Zambia under MMD. He has further gone ahead with tribalism under his regime. Its sad Zambians wasted votes for CNP. What has done in the last 9 months to show. We are feed up with, this one has done this, this one did this, this one can not be president, this party is for all, this policy will create employment. Please Mr president wake up 2016 is around the corn. Stop behaving like you are in oppostion party. Dont forget that you are 74 years old. We expect good response with a responsible old man. Mind you defence will not help you to achieve what your promised Zambians
@51 ukwa nkhem oho ,the response has hit you real hard. Its time to put hh and his puppies like ukwa nkhem oho in their rightful place.
@69 mimi, give tips to all of us zambians about the juju hh used to get if not corruption. We are all in a hurry to get rich.
f.uck your mother and you will get rich. Dont be jealous , A blackman can get rich without using juju. Mind you I am not HH’s supporter, but have no problem with his wealth.
Zambians we are very good at waffling,but most of us do not act.How many of you can boycott the Post,Times and Daily mail? and moreover most of you here do not even buy these newspapers.You wait for your boss to buy,then catch a glimpse of it.If you claim you have already boycotted why are you then busy writing on LT and ZWD telling us in the DIASPORA the headlines of these papers?
Good and perfect response Mr president. This HH today is boasting to be rich and yet his riches stem from the money he stole from poor Zambians through useless privatization. He was the one in fore front selling the mines and other companies for a song while he was getting big commision from the inspid deals. HH should not boast about his riches which are our money. He should bring it back. He conived with other thieves to rape Zambia.
Interesting response. I thought government made policies and procedures on how to go about selling those assets/liabilities. Whatever MMD wanted to achieve that time others took advantage of their misguided policies. Who was in government then?
Letter to the Republican President
19th July, 2012
Mr. Michael Chilufya Sata
Republican President
State House
Lusaka
Dear President Sata,
CONDUCT ON SERIOUS NATIONAL AND OTHER MATTERS
The subject matter refers and we further itemize as follows:-
1 We consider it a matter of national concern that you Mr. President is undermining and trivializing the highest office in the land on various pertinent issues affecting our nation. It is now clear and a pattern has been established that since you took office as President of the Republic of Zambia, your perpetual habit of abusing, demeaning and ridiculing inn
He has failed to answer any single qn since assuming office. He rebuked zambians in botswana when they asked qns..he doesnt follow any protocal exept when nevers mumba wanted to visist him an expectedly did they raise issues of protocal…..
I cannot believe what I am reading. Was this not the same man who sent KK to Angola to apologise to Santos for the gun-running for diamonds policy the MMD adopted at a time Sata himself was the Chief Executive of the MMD? Now, he was also the CEO of the MMD when they crafted the privatisation Act and went on to sale state assets for a song. If HH looted state assets and companies from right under the nose of Sata, does this not confirm the fact that our Chimbwi does not only have a plan, but most seriously is BLIND!
The full letter HH wrote to the republic President of Zambia on 19th July is on UPND site for everyone to read and comment objectively. I tried to post it here several times but failed, I dont know why.
I think the president is sick in the head. He needs our prayers.
You guys Sata has said the truth about HH. HH riches stem from corruption of mines privatization. Its HH who was busy misleading Chiluba or may be they conived. HH is a fraud star period.
During the same period the ceremonial Vee Pee as minister of Agriculture also swindled government over swine!
Satat has lowered the dignity of that office. He makes conscious effort to make things appear to be true, yet he knows that they are false. 1.
By stating that “… presided over a flawed and corrupt privatisation exercise”, he simply implies that he and other leaders of the Chiluba administration oversaw a corrupt privatization program. It is not Hichilema who formulated the policy. 2. Hwe claims that Hichilema is a tribalist. Honestly, the man has no shame to discuss that topic since he is the one who has promoted it. He is a core tribalist.
Why is Sata and PF jealous of HH’s riches. HH as any Tonga Bull will acknowledge is a very hard working man who acquired his wealth through his intelligence, handwork and a bit of good luck. Remember, Chance (Luck) favours the prepared mind. HH inherited a few Cows and farms in Southern Province and built an empire out of them. Grant Thornton was what propelled him to the highest levels. HH was already rich by the time of the privatization so to claim that he got his riches from privatization is ill advised. Bemba’s please learn that know that not everyone is a thief like you. There are some of us who actually genuinely work hard and are rich. Continued!!!
Ukwa campaigned for chiluba’s third term despite knowing the fraudulent privatization process he was engaged in. Sata is indeed a waste of space!
Continued…. This response letter was written by ka George Chellah from Post newspaper. This is the same chap who destroyed Mazoka claiming he was a cattle rustler at ZR. You can google articles written by Chellah about Mazoka and all you will find is venom by a Bemba against a Tonga. Why can’t Bemba’s just accept that Tonga’s are more hard working and smarter than them and this is why they do better than Bemba’s. If Today Zambia was split and Tonga’s took SA as their country and Bemba’s took Northern Province and Luapula as their territories. Bemba’s would be begging for food from Tonga’s within a year. This is why Bemba’s do not want Lozi’s to self determine. They are dependent on stealing from others. Son’s of Kolwestans!!!
What a cheap president.
# 15 Ba Lucy: Please leave Chitalu out of this … he was the most credible guy we had at ZPA and when he could not stop Chiluba’s loot and HH’s appetite for liquidation fees, he resigned to join CDC.
So, please don’t include him in this issue. In fact, he and Ronald Penza were very methodical in the way they were handling the privatization process but Chiluba wanted to move faster and steal quickly and when they advised him otherwise, you know what happened to Ronald and Valentine could not continue serving a wicked master, he left.
They were the best jewels we had in the privatization process and after they left/gone everything became free for all. We could have done it the Boris Yetsin way; 80% of that wealth would have been among us through Leveraged Buy-Outs (LBO).
Remember MERZAF deal?
Ba Mumba tata leckeni Ubufi!!
I am not privy to everything that transpired during the privatization process but I know one thing and that is Ronald Penza was a corrupt politician. Penza, Dean Mungomba and Derick Chitala (whatever he calls hisself now) were crooks that were just as bad as Kafupi if not worse. Paul Tembo was also evil and so was Sata… I am one of those who never was fooled by even the first MMD team. It was a mixed multitude of naive men who had no idea what Zambia needed. But back to the issue at hand. Selling a company that is not profitable and going down can be a very daunting task. Zambia was in a desperate situation and had very little leverage in the negotiations…. Continued
PENZA was a killer who actually fell on his own sword. I hated that evil man…Please don’t even raise my blood pressure like this. I knew his secrete dealings in Ndola. These guys had Mafia Tactics and they messed with the wrong guy Savimbi of Angola… do you remember now?But Back to privatization again. Other countries were also competeing for the same investors that were interested in Zambia. There was also pressure from the Brentwood institutions who buy the way are the ones who actually run Zambia’s economy to this day. What I know is that HH took some risks and bought some of the companies that Govt could not sell to anyone else. He is a businessman and he did everything in accordance with the law. Continued…..
The Best form of Privatization which Zambia so desperately needs is the privatization to Zambians not foreigners. So it is actually good that HH bought some companies that had no chance of savival and stabilized them. He as a Zambian has Zambia’s best interests at heart as opposed to foreign investors who want to make a quick back and get out (Ala the Chineese). HH has created employment for thousands of Zambians accross the country and not only in southern province. This is what we need and we need to encourage it rather than be jelous of it. Sons of Kolwestans please behave yourselves!!!
Sata has been in politics throughout his life, and yet the man does not what to say and does not seem to understand what he says. Every statement that Sata says, hardly makes sense. Its really a shame.
Ba The Bricklayer: In all fairness to the President, he was not directly involved with privatization … I too was never a fun of Chiluba and I was in charge of certifying election results for a major provincial capital in 1991 when he was elected and I did what was right because it was my duty to do what the will of the people was at the time even if I was UNIP to the core myself.
You don’t seem to really have the right facts as you even mentioned but if that aside, FTJ was not transparent after getting rid of all individuals who he thought of being impediments to his privatization world view. In his mind democracy was privatization, two different concepts but he was so convinced they were one and the same … continued
Continued … I was one of the few, young at the time in my early twenties that never believed in the “HOUR” and never has. One of our arguments with ZPA at the time was first creating a legal framework and having laws in place before we could embark on the process was an essential aspect of the conceptual framework.
There could be no proper privatization without laws in place for the process to succeed; we argued, FTJ could not listen. FTJ was deaf to all that, we argued that we needed the Lusaka Stock Exchange in place so that all assets would be offset there, we were told it would come in later. If all sales were handled by BOZ through LuSE, we could have had transparency but we were given a cold shoulder … continued.
Continued … The other issue we argued for was Leveraged Buy-Outs similar to what Boris Yetsin was doing in Russia, the untouchable sacrosanct FTJ was the jack of all trades and master of none who could not listen to anybody. He had all of a sudden become a god of some sort.
Our Pension funds in Zambia at the time had enough cash on hand, all insurances companies at the time had so much cash on hand and even if all the liquid assets of all thrift institutions in the country could not buy up all parastatal because others such as ZCCM were huge, (ZCCM was the world’s largest conglomerate at the time it was privatized trading at the NYSE), new inflows could have met net asset values thus derived … continued.
Continued … But FTJ could not listen. The advantage with Los was that all these companies had highly trained technocrats, the best of the best Zambian brains available, trained at the best institutions such as Cambridge, Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, etc were at the helm of these companies, such that when new owners came in they were actually being advised by our own people.
If we offer these companies to the sitting board of directors and their unions as new share holders (employees through unions would have participated in profit sharing schemes) only privatize 10-20% to foreign entities, the work culture would change and the bottom line would improve because everyone would now be an equity holder, we argued but Chiluba would not listen … Continued.
Remember MERZAF deal? Where were you?
Continued … Part of the reason? Some of these investors were actually having meeting at State House instead of ZPA, Ministry of Finance and/or Bank of Zambia.
They had offered Chiluba the moon at the expense of his people and instead of the normal channels being followed through ZPA, Ministry of Finance and/or Bank of Zambia, directives started coming from State House and Special Branch (Secret Service) and from then on, we were in “maningi trouble” as Denis Liwewe would say.
At the same time we were giving away our own birthright for a morsel of bread, Russia was creating its own oligarch using Leveraged Buy-Outs.Based on an annual assessment of wealth and assets compiled and published by Forbes magazine on March 10, 2012, Russia had 95 billionaires in 2012 … Continued.
Here’s their top five.
1. Roman Abramovich. Lives in London. Owns the Chelsea football team. Commands around $13.4 billion in assets and beloved by a whopping 27.1% of the respondents for his entrepreneurial talents, not for his morality, where he scored quite low.
2. Mikhail Prokhorov. Globe trotter. Partially owner of the New Jersey Nets basketball team. Worth a cool $18 billion and is the No. 2 most respected oligarch in Russia garnering 23.8% of the vote. Prokhorov thinks he can unseat Putin in the March 2012 presidential election. There are some things money cannot buy, however.
3. Oleg Deripaska. A metals man. Oleg is the CEO of Rusal, a major aluminum company. Got 15.7% of the vote. Worth $16.8 billion, down from around $30 billion back in the pre-crisis days.
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4. Yelena Baturina. Russia’s richest woman. Her construction company Inteco is a classic example of Russian style private-public partnerships. With her Moscow mayor husband, Yuriy Luzhkov, she was able to secure sexy municipal construction contracts, adding to her epic wealth. Despite what some would hold up as an example of classic Russian crony capitalism, Baturina earned the respect of 12.9% of the respondents, putting here in fourth place. Forbes has her net worth estimated to be $1.2 billion.
5. Oleg Boyko. Gambling man. Big time investor. Runs the gambit in asset ownership, from perfume companies to casinos. He earned 12.6% of the respondents’ respect and is the poorest of the bunch, worth just $1 billion.
Finally, at issue is not whether HH is providing employment to the present day smart people of the Zambian Enterprise but whether he used his inside knowledge (not available to everyone else) of the prevailing circumstances to enrich himself.
This is called “Insider Trading” and depending on the statute of limitation in Zambia, if a case is well-built against him, he could end up being locked up. Remember Martha Steward? Ever read about Winans who wrote the “Heard on the Street” column profiling a certain stock?
The saddest story for the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise is that, there were zero billionaires in Russia at the time we were all chanting the HOUR, HOUR, HOUR, THE HOUR HAS COME!!! And now there are 92 and we have none. Never again Zambia, never should we!
@B R Mumba, Sr : what moral right has Sata to criticise HH when his campaigns were funded by a well know crook Matani? There are a lot of non Zambians who have benefited from MMD privatisation(of which Sata was part of) and the so called inside dealing but Sata is mute about them simply because they are not a threat to his leadership. How do you think all those millionaires at Zambeef made their money? Double standards is what is bringing our country down. Zambians are known to be jealousy people who do not want to see a fellow Zambian succeed
Ba Zed Patriot: The President might be “guilty by association” with the then MMD and by all means; but we cannot charge him with “insider trading” which HH is guilty of. As for Zambians being rich, I am totally for that … I envisioned a Zambian Oligarch just like the Russians currently have theirs.
ZAMBEEF is the best example of a successful LBO, same thing could have happened with all parastatal companies. It was the more reason I labored to explain all the above, I want Zambians to be rich and the best chance we had was during the privatization process.
I was also defending Valentine Chitalu because I know why he left ZPA, I know what we argued against Chiluba, things that could have made a great difference in the lives of our people as explained above … I rest my case.
Ba Mumba,
All what you have written about Chiluba and MMD, I agree with. You are preaching to the choir. When you accuse of HH of insider trading, you better have your facts straight my brother. I don’t believe there is any scintilla of truth in those innuendos and character assassinations. HH never did anything of the sort. If Sata and your friends at PF believed what you are asserting HH would have been in jail by now. We both know they hate his gatts and would love to put him away for a long time. By the way, you as a citizern can also sue HH if you really believe what you are propagating here on this forum. There is a paper trail and it should not be hard to prove. You can even end up richer than most in Zambia….Continued
I don’t have to sue HH to be the richest Zambian, I will achieve that working hard as per usual
There was a claim by Sata a few months ago that HH illegally bought the house that he lives in on Kudu road. This story was rubbished by people in the know. Where is the apology from Sata? You see, we are aware of the games you are playing trying to taint the image of an innocent man. People like you did the same thing to Mazoka calling him a cattle thief and all soughts of other names. But today, you tell us Mazoka was your Here… we are not fooled. We know the game. I think you are a smart Bemba man, but your loyalty to your tribe blinds you from the truth. I don’t mean to attack you personally because you sound like a reasonable Bemba man, but it just beyond me how you people hate HH who has never done anything against you. Do you understand my pain!!!
Ba Mumba,
In your earlier posting, you seem to suggest that what you were against HH’s liquidation fee’s. Surely is that illegal in any part of the world, to charge a fee for your work. I am a chartered Engineer (P.E.) here in the USA and I can promise you I don’t sign any document for free. Whenever I append my name to a design, I am taking a huge risk and how can you expect me to take risks for free. What about all the sleepless nights I had to spend in school to get my degrees. HH is a chained Accountant and he is in a similar position to mine. If the MMD felt his price was too high, they could have found someone cheaper. Nobody forced their hand to use Grant Thornton. Like HH, I am in it to make money to take care of my family. Quality is not Cheap my brother!!
HH is not an accountant, I am an accountant he is an economist with an MBA from England … just thought you need to know more about your guy.
Ba Mumba Sir,
Are you saying HH is not a Chartered Accountant? I know the difference between an accountatn and an Economist. I also know he has an MBA from Birmingham in Economics, I know that.
No, he never studied accounting, BSC or BA in any sort or form
Well presented ba Bricklayer. I too think Mr Mumba is a reasonable person but I think he is tainting his image by showing blind royalty to a tribesman even when he knows deep down his heart that Sata is wrong. Creating false innuendos about HH as a way of deviating attention from Sata’s unpresidential behaviour is wrong ba Mumba, just call a spade a spade. Sata is systematically dividing the nation on tribal lines and we expect reasonable people like you to stand up against such vices instead of defending the indefensible. A president who uses the word tribalism at every opportunity is indirectly telling the world what preoccupies his mind most of the time. I have never heard HH use the word tribe in any of his speeches.
Ba Zed Patriot, Chiluba comes from the same chief I do … and I told you all the foolish things he did even though he was my tribesman. As far as I am concerned he was the biggest blunder the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise ever made.
I am not proud of him, and even though were just about three villages apart you have never heard me show “blind royalty to a tribesman”. You should know me better than that. I hate what the man did to the nation and we ended up losing our own wealth as a nation.
So, please state facts, read my blogs about him even above here then tell me if those are the words of someone “showing blind royalty to a tribesman”. You see honesty requires that you detach yourself from emotional undertones and I blog likewise regardless of who is involved.
Excellent!! You are Absolutely correct, when a President is always throwing the word Tribalism around, it tells us what preoccupies his mind most of the time.
I have no friends in PF, I am still UNIP even if it may never take the reins again in my lifetime. I am a patriot first and I think independently all the time. So, I am not here to please people from whatever sides(UNIP, MMD, PF, UNPD, etc), I will say it the way it is … so help me God.
Even where we went wrong as UNIP, I have been able to highlight those things and would be the first to admit. No blind loyalty to any group from this cat Badala. Zambia is greater than any single one of us.
I am not interested in your tribal rantings either, those things are way below my league. I grew up signing Tiyende Pamodzi Ndi Mutima Umo and I will go to my grave thanking God for the tribeless Zambia I grew up in … Have a blessed day, both of you Ba Zed Patriot and Ba Bricklayer.
So ba Mumba, if you condemned Chiluba for his misdeeds why are you turning a blind eye to Sata’s misdeeds? I think it is pointless condemning somebody who is dead and systematicaly supporting someone who is dividing the nation on tribal lines. Call it tribal rantings or whatever, the truth is that it is causing tensions in the nation and these are issues we should tackle if we want to create a civilised country. Trying to bury you head in the sand over an obvious issue will not help, you will just end up being guilty by association.
By the way, I was an FTJ critic from the time he took office while he was alive, I just did not see in him being able to comprehend to complexities of running a government. So, I can condemn him even in the grave … he can turn all he wants while in the grave if he wants to and I don’t even care.
Ba Zed Patriot: There you go again, you have it all wrong there either. I have never supported this President on tribal lines read my blogs on http://www.lusakatimes.com/2012/07/21/president-sata-accuse-president-rupiah-banda-tribalism/ check my comments @86, 87 and 89.
In fact at 91 you were supporting my rebuke to him and I responded in 93 letting you know, I have no blind loyalty … so where is this new thing about tribalism coming from. I even made a case why nepotism is bad … well, no need to exonerate myself here. I know exactly what kind of material I am made of.
Ba Zed Patriot: There you go again, you have it all wrong there either. I have never supported this President on tribal lines read my blogs on http://www.lusakatimes.com/2012/07/21/president-sata-accuse-president-rupiah-banda-tribalism/ check my comments @86, 87 and 89.
In fact at 91 you were supporting my rebuke to him and I responded in 93 letting you know, I have no blind loyalty … so where is this new thing about tribalism coming from. I even made a case why nepotism is bad … well, no need to exonerate myself here. I know exactly what kind of material I am made of.
Ba Zed Patriot, Chiluba comes from the same chief I do … and I told you all the foolish things he did even though he was my tribesman. As far as I am concerned he was the biggest blunder the smart people of the Zambian Enterprise ever made. I wasn’t proud of him while alive either, even if were just about 3 villages apart you have never heard me show “blind royalty to a tribesman”. You should know me better than that. I hate what the man did to the nation; we ended up losing our own wealth as a nation. So, please state facts, read my blogs about him even above here then tell me if those are the words of someone “showing blind royalty to a tribesman”. You see honesty requires that you detach yourself from emotional undertones and I blog likewise regardless of who is involved.
Ba Mumba, I am not doubting your stance against Chiluba, I am just concerned about your soft approach towards Sata. In most cases I like your blogs and I know that you are one of the few bloggers using your true identity. I also know for sure that you are a successful entrepreneur. I think a person of high standing in our society, like you, should not ignore things that are wrong. I expect you to speak out when it matters.
Ba Zed Patriot: And I do speak out even giving a swipe at this President including his predecessor and you want to prove that I mean just that go back two or three days and read my comments on the headline: President Sata Accuses President Banda Tribalism and check my comments @86, 87 and 89.
In fact at 91 you were supporting my rebuke to him and/or Rupiah and I responded in 93 letting you know, I have no blind loyalty … so where is this new thing about tribalism coming from. I even made a case why nepotism is bad … well, no need to exonerate myself here. I know exactly what kind of material I am made of.
B R Mumba, I envy you. You have a strong personality few bloggers would seem to have. I have read most of your comments and even if they accuse you of blind loyalty, it’s themselves who actually show it. You can see it manifesting in the way they praise Mazoka and HH and no one else, even with their nick names you would still tell where they hail from. But for you NO NEED to hide even you names. I salute you for you independent mind. You say it like it is.
Ba Third Term: natotela mukwai
Count how many comments come with tribal inclinations and you’ll judge who are the most tribalists. ‘My tribe is RICH! My tribe is Successful, Your tribe is full of thieves’ are the commonest of lines. One of my friends actually confessed that he feels guilty at his tribesmates’ bragadoocious attitude. It sucks!
Mr Mumba, I take it you have settled for tribal royalty judging by the way you have evaded tackling the Sata issue.Anyway, good luck.
Stop jealous, HH is next republican president, the guy is hard working.
This is proper idiocy,There is little link between what HH said and what Sata is saying.Its clear Sata has lost it in this letter as he is trying to hoodwink bloggers.Sata can not run away from the selling of parastatals as he himself was actively in gvt at the time and a senior minister at that.I would urge Sata to go back and read the letter and answer the issues HH raised which to me are genuine queries on his judgement and actions
HH KABUDULA WALEPUKA.
ITS A BUNCH OF CROOKS NO ONE IS CLEAN. MAYBE IF WE TRY A JEHOVAHS WITNESS TO BE IN STATE HOUSE.
Yambayamba the ‘degree clause’ came at a time when HH was still in the pact with PF. I remember him clearly state that it should not be a requirement. Whether he was speaking from his own convictions or to save face since our President may not be a degree holder, I do not know but surely he should not be misquoted. In my opinion, I still feel that if so many jobs require a degree holder or higher, why should the Presidency be an exception-why take such a mamoth task and rely on experience, talent or wisdom alone-too much is at stake. So if one with a degree would suggest the same, whether I have one or not-I would still make out the logic in that without branding such a one a being proud of his academic achievements.
@ Kongizza:
Baba, the presidency is not a specialization like you pick “Library Studies” in college! If we require a degree, very soon will be arguing about what sort of degree qualifies for the presidency. What does the person who studies Nuclear Physics know about Economics, Political science, Social sciences? Never heard of a college that offers a degree in the “Presidency studies”! So, this is slipery slope which is best left alone.
And yes, HH may have said something about the Degree clause simlpy to save face. But he surely did not show leadership on this issue when MPs from his own party who sat on Constitution review commettee were busy champion this clause. That’s HH for you! Anything he thinks benefits his selfish political ambitions, he goes along with it!
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UPND and HH thought that if the degree clause was implemented it would disqualify Sata and make HH head of the PF-UPND pact.Only when they found out that Sata actually may have been a few steps ahead of their shananagans (that Sata actually has some sort of a degree) did they drop their phony support for the clause. Go back to the arguments the UPND was advancing at the time and you will find that what I am telling you is true—if you have already forgotten!
HH has never accepted to be number two in any pact he has entered into with others, and they have been quite a few already. This is the main reason why the PF-UPND pact failed. Mr. “SOME OF US” Hichilema was too proud to accept the fact that his party was smaller and less popular compared to PF. Go figure!!
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And if you think the difficulties the current purported MMD-UPND pact is experiencing is without a reason then you don’t know how HH thought process is! I feel for poor Nevers Mumba who at least stood and won the presidency of the MMD. But HH just wants to come in and jump to the front of the line by any means necessary, despite the fact that his party is very junior and small compared to MMD. But NO, none of that matters to this POWER HUNGREY chap. All he is focused on is find enablers to get him to State House—and RB is just about right for this job—-never mind the terrible tribal tinged approach they have decided to go about all this. It is up to HH to make sure he distances himself from such divisive approach to national issues if he hopes to become President!
a few facts will help here. HH was a financial expert whose firm was engaged to “value” some of the government parastatals. Elias Chipimo’s Corpus Globe was engaged as legal experts for some of the parastatals. these two firms were engaged after open bidding by the Zambia Privatisation Agency, an arm of Government. the actual privatisation was done by neither, but ZDA itself. you might hate either of the two, but do not distort the facts!
Looks like the POST wrote the President’s letter-lol. HH don’t give up, pipo are behind you, listening to you on Lusaka Star this morning made me feel ashamed that I did not vote for you, you talk sense man, keep representing, our eyes are slowly opening.
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