The Zambia Congress of Trade Unions has strongly condemned government for u-turning on the application of the controversial Pubic Order Act.
But Chief Government Spokesman Kennedy Sakeni has maintained that the Public Order Act is relevant as it helps to maintain public sanity.
ZCTU General Secretary Roy Mwaba said it is disappointing that the PF government is now in support of an archaic law which they condemned whilst in opposition.
Mr. Mwaba said the Public Order Act is a colonial piece of legislated that should be done away with.
“We are worried as the Labour movement that one of the bad laws you condemned when you were in government was the Public Order Act, we are concerned that you are now embracing this law. I think this is one issue that you need to relook at.”
“The Public Order Act is archaic, undemocratic and today it is the opposition being prevented from meeting and tomorrow it will be the labour movement,” Mr. Mwaba said.
The ZCTU General Secretary was speaking in Lusaka today during the opening of a three day workshop organised by the Labour Media Project which was officiated by Information and Broadcasting Minister Kennedy Sakeni.
But Mr Sakeni defended the application of the Public Order Act adding that the law is critical to maintain public peace and order.
[pullquote]“Freedoms must have limitations, if you give absolute freedoms, people will start walking around naked and there would be no pornography, sodomy and all that.”[/pullquote]
“People want absolute freedom, there is no absolute freedom anywhere, you can’t just allow people to be assembling anyone as they wish, that will bring anarchy,” Mr. Sakeni said.
“Freedoms must have limitations, if you give absolute freedoms, people will start walking around naked and there would be no pornography, sodomy and all that.”
And Mr Sakeni has said that the Freedom of Information (FOI) bill will be dealt with within the next two sittings of parliament.
The minister called on the media in the country to effectively highlight labour issues in order to raise awareness among the workers and other stakeholder
bitter ,bitter, bitter the POA is the best tool in the world to manage HH. . . .
ati ba minister . Did this moron ever see the inside of a classroom or just rose from kapaso or office orderly – now up the ladder but the fall will be heavy!.
Find out before you comment the Man rose up to DPIO in Luapula.
ZCTU is just BITTER!!!!
Yes Mr Real Patriot Bitter
PF told all lies in the book to get into power. Now pf is embracing things that they comdenmed when in opposition.
That’s what u asked for when u voted in this party teeming with ugly faces.
I don’t know why , but I think the majority of people do not understand Mr Sekeni
For me, I think he is doing a great job although he appears a bit of a loose canon
To have a good team, you need even people who are marginally incompetent by default, case in point this Man
Thanks
out of touch with reality.
Mushota here we go again am getting convinced you re a retard.
Just keep the law intact. We shall also use it against you bosses. Keep it up Sakani!
Too much freedom to HH is a big NO!!
id.iot!
it is normally said and proved that what goes around comes around. Zambian politics and politicians is as a circle that goes round and round at the expense of real economical development and from there you can measure how many years Zambian will need to attain even the level of Botswana!
MMD took 20 yrs to receive their RED Card but what i see is like PF will get theirs soon. This is not what they promised meaning that its not what we voted for n the same way we campained for them we can also do the same to see them out. Terrorists or Rebels do not assemble in public, so this is meant for the opposition which we need so much for checks and balances. We are now good at changing gvments.
I totaly agree with you checks and balances re necessary for a health democracy . If you say you re gonna do somthing then do it. how was the POA good to the PF when they were in opposition and now becomes bad coz they re in power. they re afraid of leaving power.What they should be more afraid of is not delivering on their promises coz that way they will will soon than they came in. My advise to the PF govt is that always remember, that “YOU RE POWERFULLY NOW BUT REMEMBER THAT TIME IS MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU RE. so if you dont do the right thing now you ll find your selves right where you started in the opposition. Even Kings dont rule forever so what is a polical party. let us make the right decisions whilest we can and have nothing to worry about in the future.
Mwaba and Hikaumba with their skeletons in the cupboards have severely weakened the labour union movement in Zambia and are wont of immediate removal by any means.
A nation of *****s trapped in a time warp . It is one set of morons taking over from another set of morons. It is been going on for the last 48 years without any discernible change in the quality of governance. Add to it the tribal sycophants who give oxygen to these low lives!
well said… a nation full of monkeys
Public order act is an ancient law that does not fit the modern day political dispensation in which fredom of assembly and association done within the cnfines of the law is the undisputable human right, PF please you r taking us in the stone age. Mr. President ba SATA you seem to be changing so fast in the negative way by the way.
this act is everywhere in different forms including uk. You cant just wake up and organise a mass rally notice must be given and it can be denied. Because of public order man u vs liverpool is always at noontime. No big matches in the same city at the same time.It is all part of public order.Go and ask the anti wall street demostrators in new york if there is no public order act there
@ al which people just wake up and organise mass protests? are u living with us baba? opposition leaders inform the police but the police refuse and the Min of H/A stated that they can appeal to him, when they are denied. if he agrees with the police then they have to go to court. but you shall note that the police have been denying the opposition to even meet and they say the opposition have to meet at a place they(police) determine instead of their place of choice. is that what the uk and usa do to their citizens? having such stringent requirements? don’t lie through your teeth baba.
iyeee..what kind of a creature in a green suit..!hahahahahaha..you can do better..is it true he’s a retard..?hahaha
Pbrain, clever mphoetar but you miss the point.WHY WOULD THE GUY WHO’S AHEAD IN THE POLLS WANT AN EARLY DEBATE?and WHY WOULD THE GUY WHO’S TRAILING WANT TO POSTPONE?You claim debates are free publicity are you nuts? They’re the riskiest step a candidate can take eg Lloyd Benson’s you sir are no Jack Kennedy or Ronald Reagan’s I won’t hold my opponents’s youth and inexperience against him. When Candidates are behind, they ask for a debate in hope they can benefit from an opponent’s gaff. Candidates who lead in the poll fear such moments.
Remove the POA and you will see unprecedented uncivilised behaviour which will make the storming of the Lusaka Central Police station look like childs play. The focus will move from unnecesary dancing to violence when any attempt to control them will be tried.
this ***** ape called sekeni is really an outcast in reasoning just as his boss micheal satana. the law is good now just because it is meant to stop HH. you fools your days are numbered
Is Sakeni dressed in that shocking sleeveless suit again?
hahahahah
Mr Sakeni knows nothing about the public order act. Sakeni should read the Musakanya papers to understand what the law was meant for by the colonial government and for how long it should be in force. Musakanya lectured the supreme court as a lay person who was very conversant with the law as an administrator of the law when it was effected. Virtually he presented himself as an expert on that law even though he was not a qualified lawyer in the 1980s.
is it not cruel to dress a baboon in a horrible pastel green suit?
@19. Green suit is camouflage. The baboon wants to fit in with the vegetation!
This thing is UGLY!
Let him marry Nkandu Luo
There has to be the tiniest smattering of irony when as smart and educated as we are, we call our people apes and baboons while mocking them with ‘their ignorance’. Seems another thing that has been lost in 48 years is self respect. I should know. I have none :)
Compromised ZCTU, when are you holding erections?
@Mushota#6
You made a lot of mistakes you little fool. You wrote and I quote “you need even people who are marginally incompetent by default.” Marginally is a direvative of marginal which means small and unimportant or extreme edge or extreme end or empty space before the line of a page on the left side or right side. By default means something happens because you have not made any other decisions or choices which would have made things happen differently. Incompetent is the opposite of competent which means being able to do something because one has enabling abilities.You are merely mixing words without any meaning in fact you are reflecting your claims of incoherence, fool. Go back to school. Senseless garbbage.
Don’t you think you are going overboard in this war of words with Mushota?
THIS TRIBAL GOVERNMENT HAS NOTHING TO OFFER. THE BEST IT CAN DO IS TO SUPPRESS ANYBODY OPPOSING IT. A DICTATOR IS BEING GROOMED AND SHORTLY WILL START CONSUMING THE CREATORS. MARK MY WORDS.
@Mushota#6
You are contradicting yourself in a major way for example, in your first paragraph you seem to be supporting Sakeni albeit you are still unsure of him because he is unreliable. The premise you attributed to that, is that it is because he is a loose canony. Note that in the second paragraph without quotation marks you are not clear at all except that one has to guess as to what you were trying to convey to your recipients. My guess is that you are opposing/deconstructing what you initially stated in your earlier rantings. Your entire post has blunders similar to blunders made by a drug addict. What drugs are you consume there in Europe. Here in South Africa we drive nice expensive cars and it is easy to buy houses and cars.Everything is readily available unlike in Europe.
i think we now believe in chanda chimba the third,must term him a Prophet.what does some one think out there?
@BOOM & WHATEVER#26
I am very sorry oh oops, the correct sentence is ‘What drugs are you consuming in Europe’ not ‘What drugs are consume in Europe’. At least I easily notice errors unlike my sworn enemy Mushota.
SEKENI IS VERY VERY NG’ONA LOOKING MINISTER…WORSE OFF THE COLOUR OF HIS SUIT,,,IMWEEEEE….TIYE BA ZAMBIA IT REALLY PF KUYA BEBELEEE.
The POA is necessary in Africa and Zambia in particular.This law restricts retards from taking the law in their own hands as they may misunderstand absolute freedom.Our behaviuor as africans with low literacy levels and low public decorum we need to be regulated in the way we conduct ourselves.We behave like wild animals.For example,any simple protest gathering can turn into agree affair with crooks pretending to be advocates taking advantage to cause anarchy not in tanderm with the objectives of the gathering.We may remove POA,but some other regulatory laws can come into place.POA is not bad on face value but taking advantage by powers that be is what is wrong.The opposition should also exercise restriant in their quest to practice the freedom of assembly.,
I AM WORRIED WITH YOUR ATTITUDE OF UNDERVALUING YOURSELF. YOU ARE THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM THEMSELVES. YOU ARE A DANGER TO MODERN SOCIETY. YOU DONOT KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORK OF THE POLICE? IT IS NOT TO HARRASS OPPOSITION LEADERS OR PARTIES.
@Goncalves/Livingstone
Why did you change your identity from Livingstone to Goncalves. No need for that bizarre move brother. You are just fine opposing these morons under any identity and your posts are very interesting even though you are very berief. Try to engage these morons at lenghty and I would like to ready more critical jargons from you. You seem to be a highly learned individual unlike our sister Mushota. See you whenever circumstances permit any possible physical interaction in the future.
@ Goncalves#12/Livingstone
Please throw more criticisms about these morons in that I would like to ready more from you. I enjoy reading your arguments by analogy. Your prudential approaches too are well thought of unlike what most bloggers write. They merely ridicule people who being clear about their arguments. On the other hand, there are those who are clear,and they justify their arguments by pointing to small incidents of shortcomings/shortfalls of the opposition and, excessively generalise these shortcomings to other broad national issues so as to sugar coat corrupt acts committed by the PF regime
Ascending to power by false pretenses…
all of us are for comrade HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…
speak for yourself you retard…..
Ape man
I think the PF have seen how careless some Opposition Leaders like HH can be, hence they know that if they allow absolute freedom then it will be very easy for people like HH to organise Lozis to rise against the Government on the pretext of not having fullfiled promises of the Restoration of the Barotse thing. On one hand, the Public order act is good but when it is abused the authorities to supress the people with divegent views , it become a very bad law. Currently, the bad seed in Zambian politics is people like HH and Nevers who talk without thinking , if they start criticising objectively without inciting people, then the law can be scrapped off.
Amuna Onzuna is a typical dog of SATA and KABIMBA..Sir take it easy,,SATA IS NOT NEVER BE THERE FOR EVER…VERY SOON HE WIIL BE VOTED OUT. ZAMBIAN PEOPLE ARE EVER LOOKING UP TO GOD…AND FOR SURE GOD IS THERE TO OTHER THEIR PRAYERS…ITS H.H THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT AS THE 6TH REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT.
Amuna Onzuna is a typical dog of SATA and KABIMBA..Sir take it easy,,SATA IS NOT NEVER BE THERE FOR EVER…VERY SOON HE WIIL BE VOTED OUT. ZAMBIAN PEOPLE ARE EVER LOOKING UP TO GOD…AND FOR SURE GOD IS THERE TO OTHER THEIR PRAYERS…ITS H.H THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT AS THE 6TH REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT…MAY GOD HELP US .
Two of the hallmarks of integrity are truthfulness and consistency. PF have changed their position on the POA without so much as an explanation or an apology. The least that the PF could have done was to modify the act by making it less susceptible to abuse by the police or politicians. This lack of respect to the expectations of the electorate will not be tolerated. Anyway, what can we expect of the likes of Sakeni who was one of the chief bootlickers in the Chiluba government.
The reintroduction of the public order act is no surprise to me. Fellow bloggers, just understand that every incompetent government will do anything to repress any dissenting views especially from those in opposition. The ruling party will have to shield itself by enacting laws that will serve its interests. By the way Mushota, I like your description of that loose canon…..
ZCTU are just
Bitter, jealousy and choking with envy