Patriotic Front (PF) member Opper Hamiyanze has said that allegations leveled against Kabwata Member of Parliament are a serious gamble which needs to be handled in an amicable manner.
Mr. Hamiyanze has told QFM news that the PF members to desist from involving themselves in an unconstitutional manner by calling for the removal of Mr. Lubinda when his case has not even been heard the central committee of the PF party.
He added that confusions relating allegations leveled against Mr. Lubinda are just portraying a bad picture to the international community especially now when the Minister of Foreign Affairs is on duty representing Zambia abroad.
Mr. Hamiyanze has since suggested that the PF cadres wait for the Party secretary general Wynter Kabimba to table his allegations before the top leadership for scrutiny.
Mr. Kabimba has accused Mr. Lubinda for leaking government information to the privately owned media.
Meanwhile, PF National Youth Chairman Chishimba Kambwili has advised the youth and other party cadres to desist from demonstrating against Foreign Affairs Minister Given Lubinda and to stop ‘playing to the gallery.” but allow the disciplinary organ handle the matter ‘quietly.’
[pullquote]“As a founding member, I cannot support that, tomorrow it will be other senior members being petitioned, we must act now and stop this,” Mr Kambwili said[/pullquote]
“PF cannot be allowed to be run in an undisciplined way. The acts by the cadres are acts of indiscipline of the worst kind,” he said.
He said Mr Lubinda was a senior member of the PF and that if there were issues that needed to be resolved, organs of the party should be allowed to deal with the matter without attracting public attention.
He said Mr Lubinda was a member of the Central Committee, MP and Minister, who deserved to be respected.
“It is uncivilised for people to start protesting against a member of the party. We cannot allow PF to be run the same way MMD was run.”
“As a founding member, I cannot support that,” he said. “Tomorrow it will be other senior members being petitioned, we must act now and stop this,” he said
Mr Kambwili said Mr Lubinda was currently in The Gambia representing President Michael Sata on official duty and reports from home about impending disciplinary action against the Foreign Affairs Minister were damaging to the country’s reputation.
Yes indeed, Kambwili ia talking sense. Kabimba must know which side of his piece of bread is well buttered.
Kabimba as Party Secretary General, must be allowed to instil discipline to wayward members. Discipline is actually a very good thing.
Discipline can be performed without embarrasing the senior member of PF ba Blessings. I think you lot are drunk with power. MMD was defeated because they were appearing in news papers even for wrong reasons. Are you sure Kabimba needs to be in the papers every day? For what? We have a lot of people that sacrificed for the PF who feel disgusted on the Lubinda issue. Anger in Zambia is still lingering; careful with your Kabimba. If Lubinda or Chirwa do not lead PF, be rest assured that people’s pact will choose one of these and we shall back him. SG Kabimba is talking far too much. Read the mood in PF; read the blogs and you will see how angry we have become with this nonsense.
So you are PF because of Lubinda? Is Lubinda even a State Counsel?? was he honoured by Sata?? no. not at all. Is he Party Secreatry General?? No. So with roads now done. water at UTH, Ndola Stadium etc etc what are you whinning about??? You just luv complaining like a little child. When we were at school, were noise makers punished silently??? No they were caned for all of us to see. its called a deterrent. also, GBM suffered too much, let him rest. Wynter mukali bane.
@blessing what evidence have you got against Given Lubinda? stop your childishness and Govern the country i.e mealie shortage.
WTF? The SG himself needs some common sense punched in his air-filled head. This holier than thou mentality is causing serious but unnecessary tension in PF. And I go back and reference my own comment…the President is exhibiting a luck of leadership, clearly. Where is teh King cobra that was tough and stood tall while in the opposition?
Where’s the King cobra who wouldn’t take nonsense from anybody? Most of all, where is the Sata that I supported voted for last september?
Power is sweet eh?
Totally agree with you. You always sense….
I concur despite being a PF supporter. These are fellow cabinet ministers and senior members of the party this self appointed perfect dwarf is tarnishing in the press. The president is a let down on this one for he has allowed kabimba to demonise fellow senior members publicly.
@Non, thank you for seeing my point. @Coachez. Trust me, I support PF. Hell, I happen to vote for the president as well as my local (PF) MP. It’s disheartening to this how these events are turning out with PF barely in power 15months. I fear for what the next couple of years will be. Really! I honestly expected alot more from Sata…and maybe that’s where most of us made the mistake? I don’t know. Kabimba currently thinks he’s invicible. But karma is a bitch.
when someone says the truth the least that cn be done is to appreaciate.i am so proud of mr lambwili for what he said, i know his risking his job and good standing with HIV kabimba but sometimes one has to stand for the truth.
Amen, amen and amen. The truth shall set anybody free. It’s been proven time and time again. #wekeepitmoving#
I dont think a gamble is the best ,Given is a likable person and thought he was a team player,NEC WARN him of associating with commoners, he’s likely to warn a undp collegue of danger being in their company,THANK YOU KAMBWILI but where were you all this time you took long to bring sanity to this petty issue,Bo lubinda just agree you have a bigger task for the nation building,Remember if a donkey kicks you and you kick back then you are also a donkey,keep it simple…
Sense from Kambwili atleast. Keep up with the same spirit.
Kambwili seems to have more useful brain cells than both Sata and Kabimba combine!! Kabimba’s end will be a tragic one if he continues on this path. You cannot antagonize everyone and think you are the smartest beetle in the cow dung! You all stink!
@6 Maestro Hehehehe, long time welcome back where have you been? or you are not the real Mastero winer of 2009 LT award. Now i`m waiting to see ba Monze, Daisy, Chewe the virgin etc.People have disappeared or simply changed names?
back to the issue at hand, Kabimba is just full of himself.Kambwili that is the spirit baba, try to talk to Kabimba b4 it is too late.
Kambwili makes sense on this issue, i think he Kambwili should warn Kabimba stop running to media when internal issues like this arise, instead Kabimba should learn to talk to senior party officials and NEC when issues involve party members arise before issuing threats to his fellow senior party members. Kambwili tell Kabimba to stop enticing cadres
Every day people insulted us as ba Kaponya, we accepted because we wanted change. See how SG Kabimba is confirming our Kaponya tag!! No gentlemen this is no way to run things. These days, we dont even read anything that comes from SG Kabimba; no we dont. Even if he says it politely its kind of difficult to take it in. Every day in the news for what?
Twasanta mwisho.
This was all started by Wynter Kabimba going Public with what should have been an internal issue that should have been tabled within the NEC or whatever they call it. Of course we all know what he was expecting to unleash within the cadre circles. Those are poor qualities of an administrator. Each time you have an issue, you are on an anthill broadcasting to all and sandry. Kabimba has achieved what he wanted and now the mob wants Lubinda’s blood. If this happens we all know who orchestrated it all.
Kabimba must go if the revolution is to have any meaning. The same dog that bites you in the morning will bite you in the evening. Munyela pebwe tabula kubwekeshapo.
Kindly ignore #3
I only went back to read it after reading your post
Reading #3’s comment for the 10th time today
True, you are actually calling attention to No 3. If you are not careful it will qualify as a best seller! Sometimes it is best to just ignore!
Wise words from Mr.Kambwili
I think Kambwili must be respected for such wisedom now instead of him being “Ka mbwili” now he has become “Ba mbwili”. Let Kabimba remain “Ka bimba”.
thumbs up kambwili.one late pastor told me when i was appointed to deaconship at the age of 21yrs that amafi yabakulu nalanunka (feaces for elderly pipo stinks). allegation for pipo who are in the NEC should not be brought in the open till they are done with to avoid prejudice.Please ba w Kabimba if indeed you are a lawyer behave like one and don’t be like the late George Kunda.u are a minister and a party secretery and NOT a carder.A carder doesn’t reason but just follow what the leader says.deal the matter at the high level and not in public.if you expel him when he is abroad what happens then.be serious with serious issues.
Kabimba is not a Lawyer, he just studied Law. He’s never won a case in his Life.
Mukabe you are mislead. please google “state counsel”
I have always said this on LT that @Blessings, you are a CURSE even to your self.
Kudos to Kambwili fro showing some maturity and humility, campared to this ka Wynter mugget. That’s how leaders are supposed to speak when it comes to matters of this nature and not yupping loudly to prove a point.
I hope this message resonates with this one (1) sole loser here (he remains nameless) who constantly thinks Kabimba is heaven sent and the best from PF.
Kabimba is yapping like the Late GK (mhsrip) or Tetamashimba. Wonder if he’s heading in the same direction.
You know what, you have a point here. Lol, i think he’s heading in that >>>>>direction. Yaba, Mukabe….that was an introspective joke!
Pliz pf leave lubinda alone,don’t make a mistake to expel this guy,this guy is interegent and popular,he can stand as an independent mp and win,we voted for him not pf in kabwata
MMD will have the last laugh, who is infighting now? err ba mumbwe , who is infighting Punching Fist (PF) or MMD?
dream on… this thing aint going anywhere. Lubinda is more of an asset than Wynter thought he can handle. He will leave this with his tail between his legs, and sense shall prosper. Lubinda is one of the best things that ever happened to the PF and to intellectuals who wish to engage with government rationally. That is why he is being accused of being a traitor, because he sees issues beyond the nose. We’re all Zambians for phuck’s sake. Should I stop talking to my tonga friends, or stop talking to my friends who support manchester united? What the phuck?
For easy analysis and since we are so obsessed with tribe lets call the Waring factions as:
PF-Tonga Faction Vs PF-Bemba Faction
On this one Kabimba has bitten more than he can chew. Given has given the PF the face of reason and logic which it very much needs. If the cobra were to allow this to go Kabimba’s way, that would mark the end of his credibility and loyalty. Not to mention the breach of protocol. Kabimba and Given Lubinda are miles apart intellectually and in terms of being mature and cultured.
well analyzed.
Well said. You’re the equalizer indeed.
Thanks.
Kambwili that is very good humility showed to those backward thinking cadres. I hope Kabimba learns something from the words that Kambwili has spoken. Respect must be restored, they must understand that they need to respect people while still instilling discipline in the party members. We do not want to see the situation like Kachingwe being dragged by cadres! Kudos to Kambwili for showing such maturity at this difficulty time!
Kabimba is extremely dull he cannot learn. Studied Law but not a Lawyer. Glad even MCS know that, he’s never used Kabimba to represent him before. He’s simply a dull Dwarf
kambwili thank you for your courage don’t let dog kabimba destroy pf because each Dog has its own day kabimba’s darkest days are coming
Up to now I’m just amazed by all of you who voted for PF.
Big ups Mr Kambwili! Wise advice.
@ Mukabe, in response to my #14 post, you have a point here. Lol, I think ka Wynter is for sure heading in that >>>>>direction. Yaba, thanks for that introspective joke! Just made my day man. Big yourself up!
Ha! So, ka Kabimba issued an ultimatum to Lubinda while he was outside the country? why could that chap not wait till Lubinda returned? So cadres are protesting against the man who is not physically available to ‘defend’ himself? what nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this is the way of handling internal matters then PF has a very big prblm.
How cld the the general secretary rise seriuos allegations against a senior member when they know that he is on tour of duty.Do they mean that thier are no procedures 2 follow.
They said the Tatanic cld not sink but what happened amazed every1.Even Pf can go in2 doldrums if the hierachy is misfiring.
is it a concidence that there should always be one in the ruling party that seems to make unnecesary noise, where did kabimba get his information about lubinda giving out information? if its inuutu suuba’s op then that fills in the missing blanks.lubinda is a threat to Kabimba and sata as well no wonder there trying to get rid of him.
Ma reporters please please please go to school! This is a very poorly written story. Editors please do your joB. Attend some O level grammar classes
I tell you these people need to seriously hire an editor! Why do they never edit their stories? It’s annoying to say the least!
Is Kabimba normal?
I had a respect for WK when he was in opposition and I feel he is lossing it very bad. It is very sad that everyday WK has to say something to media and always bringing the name of my beloved PF to its knees. Hon Kambwili speaks sense
Timely advice from Hon. Kambwili. Any sane person will take this as a very important message of civilisation.
We dare PF to fire Bo Lubinda, they will be embarrased in Kabwata bcose the chap is very popular and will make sure we shame PF and Winter by voting for Lubinda in masses. He is one of the few sensible PF MPs.
Is the Cobra alive?Kabimba W surely are you a lawyer,trying to shift attention from your corruption to Lubinda!!!!!!!!Zambians are not the same dont think you can pay every one you cant even feed me a,i feel RB made sense am ashamed i voted for this party hoping you will change things .Kambwili keep it up tired of this nonse .
well said mr kambwili , am not pf but am a zambian who wants to see my country move forward keep it up mr kambwili.
ITS NOT BRAIN CELLS.
IT FEAR OF THE INFO THAT LUBINDA HAS ABOUT THE PF WHICH CAN BE USED AGAINIST THEM .
CASE CLOSED.
kabimba knows and the whole PF knows that what he is doing is out of his selfishness. He has no backing and he is not going anywhere. There are better people to lead the PF and even the country than him. It will be a shame the day he will be forced to report and get instructions from the people he is fighting with. Useless worm
But ka kabimba kalishilu fye. Just leave Honourable Given Lubinda alone. Mr Lubinda is a very intelligent man and you ka kabinda you are jsut too far below Honourable Lubinda interms of everything. Ka kabimda uku bwata bweta every day. Yesterday it was GBM, today its Lubinda. Who knows who you will be fighting against tomorrow. You (Kabimba) are not even presidential material but Given Lubinda is. I have great respect for Kambwili. I would rather have Kambwili as president that you ka winter. Now I am only seeing two people in PF who are sane, Lubinda and Kambwili. The rest are dog.shi.t. including the Cobra. F@#k!!!!
@Blessings, Kabimba’s a$$licker, you are also dog.shi.t.
Level headed Kambwili, you are coming up well like a very fertile field, with a guaranteed harvest to feed a hungry nation! Keep it up. Lubinda too, God bless Zambia! We need sanity!
Well spoken ba kambwili,we more of you in the PF.its the SG doesn’t understand party protocols coz if he did he wouldn’t have gone to the media and make such allegations to a senior party member who’s not even in the country to defend himself.it buffled me when i heard it on ZNBC. Such issues are supposed to be dealt with internally. We were not supposed to know as ordinally zambians.thumbs up ba kambwili well spoken indeed.