Thursday, March 28, 2024

The Nkoya distance themselves from BNC resolutions

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The Nkoya Royal Council and the Kazanga Cultural Association have disassociated themselves from secession calls by the Barotse National Council.

Council Chairman Edwin Nkomesha told ZNBC that the National Council was not a true gathering of all stakeholders of the people of Western Province especially the Nkoya speaking people.

And Kazanga Cultural Association National Chairman Lytone Kaushiku said his association will not support people who are bent on bringing chaos and confusion in the country.

And Vice President Guy Scott says the resolutions of the Barotse National Council-BNC to break away from Zambia was taken by a group of people who gave themselves the preserve to speak for the entire province.

Dr. Ssott says the resolutions from the seven districts were stage managed.

The Vice President said this in parliament on Wednesday when he presented a comprehensive statement on the situation in Western Province.
[ZNBC]

63 COMMENTS

    • Lewanika,the sooner u wake up and realise how heartless n selfish u pipo are the better…there is no vuvuzela anymore…we know wat we want as zambians..iits not about sata or any president that was before but for all of us…so go bak to your ngambela and crew and tell them to revist their agreement and just humble themselves…the same restrictions u have put in your sandy land has made it be the most impoverished province…wake up…u pipo are boring

    • Take lessons from south Sudan. Definitely, the BNC is not a democratic process. It can be tribalistic, but that even makes it hard for the council to push it.

    • Lozis are like spoiled little greedy and selfish bastards. They want everything to themselves & hate sharing with others.

    • @NSHI SUNDA CHAKUTI CHAKUTI
      You are a bitter hater! If WP is poor and sandy, what are Lozis keeping to themselves and refusing to share? Just admit that Northern Rhodesia will be boring without Lozis to give Bembas a run for their money. It is Bembas who selfishly took all posts in the PF govt making it a family affair. Bemba hegemony everywhere. You monkeys even try speaking Bemba in Parliament. Just celebrate that your arch-enemies have opted out from Zambia and you can now steal freely. BYE BYE!!

  1. # 1
    No sir you are soooooo wrong…the Nkoyas and Kazanga have more reason then the so called elite Lozi establishment…the resolutions thus pasted are bent on power hungry few so called full blooded Lozis…this issue is sooooo dangerous and has the potential to drag our good name in Africa and the rest of the world through shit you and i dont want to even imagine…Western province never belonged to the Lozis, you found other tribes leaving there and took over…whether you like it or not, Zambia has now taken over our Western province…you are not going anywhere but staying put…if it is tooo much for you to understand, move over to Botswana or Limpopo in South Africa…

    • Spot on caveman! And why were there no representatives from namibia, botswana and zim to the bnc because the bl extends to these territories doesn’t it?.My answer, FYABUPUBA! 

    • Caveman…we meet again…! Indeed, this is their fastest way of getting to State House…BY CREATING THEIR OWN…ITS NOT HAPPENING! NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. BNC did not consult people on the ground from the look of latest developments as now its evident that some Lozi people are distancing themselves from the resolution made………. Shame…we thought the meeting was to discuss way forward and not take course of action taken….this was pure pre-mature ejaculation….lol

  3. The Nkoya’s The Nkoya’s. The claim they were the first to settle in Western Province. How come the LOZI’s have an upper hand? well this shows they were overrun because they have only retain a small swith of land. The PF Govt must quickly engage the BRE and other stake holders. Remember it was Mr. Sata that promised the LOzi’s during campaigns that he was to honor the BA64 within 90 days or assuming office. PF must open dialogue with them.

  4. Next, the Mbundas, Luchazis, Nkangalas, Luvales,Chokwe, Kwangwas etc. We want very clear statements from you people rubbishing the resolutions, remember, the Indunas are appointed by the Litunga and because he is tribal, they are all Lozis. So, that is there point of view, whats yours? Besides, all the names with signatures on the Resolution were Lozis. All the top positions in Lozi traditional leadership are Lozis. They want to take you in as slaves! Never, refuse, the Government is on your side.

    • @St. Louis

      You must be a complete nincompoop. Kwangwas are Lozi and dominate most parts of Mongu, Senanga and Kaoma now. Do your maths. If you think so-called Lozis are people in the plains, they are very few. You probably have not met any! Most of the people you despise as Lozi are Mbundas, Kwnagwas, Nkoyas, etc. Know something about history before you put your dirty fingers to a keyboard.

  5. we will have alot vacancies occupied by lozis in public,private and NGOs.we have more jobs and how wonderful it will be.those lozis with private businesses will have to relocate thier businesses to barosteland,they will leave thier plots and houses for the northern rhodesian citizens.they will go and suffer in thier lands.the litunga and his family will be on top of things. i forsee pipo paying tribute to the loyal family. think twice lozis.

    • We have thought many times and you have all those plots and houses. If it is good riddance, why are you pleading for Lozis to stay? You snake, you speak with a forked tongue. Just enjoy your Northern Rhodesia alone.

  6. st Louis. Sir you are a comedian. Luvales and Luchazis don’t even have chiefs in western province. Kwangwas are alui just like the litungas. Lozi is not a tribe. It is like been British in which case you can be English welsh or Scottish.

  7. I am wondering what these Lozis are up to. When the Police shoots them, they cry foul. We love your women though, they can sleep with anything that has a stiff muscle.

  8. Giving it a second thought, wouldn’t it create more vacancies for Zambians? Anyway, the Government should show these people that it is stronger than witches preaching hate. The Police should do a repeat act, this time using tanks like in Syria.

  9. What are Lozis looking for? If they insist, please give them their ka impoverished region. The PF govt must ensure that all the Lozis occupying our jobs and plots in other North Western, Central, Lusaka, Copperbelt, Eastern, Northern, Muchinga, Luapula, Southen Provinces MUST be grabbed from them. Please just employ more Immigration Officers to do a head count of all the Lozis in other provinces and & assist in deporting them to western province. Let them leave our jobs, plots, and many other things in Zambia and revise the 2012 budget by excluding Western province from it. We are fed up with this barotseland issue.

    Yours, Lunda from North Western province- Zambezi….

    • YOU ARE RIGHT MY BROTHER, WERE IS PF GOVERNMENT AND WHAT ARE THEIR WAITING FOR, QUICKLY LET ALL OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FOLLOW THIS SINYANDA OF THEIRS.

      BA HO SAKENI TELL OUR IMMIGRATION TO TAKE A QUICK MOVE, WE ARE GETTING SICK FOR NOTHING AND TIRED OF THIS ISSUE FOR NOTHING. CABINET HAS MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN THE SO CALLED B/LAND.
      WE WILL SEE AT THE END WERE THIS SINYANDA WILL GET MONEY TO WORK ON MONGU/KALABO RD. HAVE LOZIS FORGOT ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION SONG….

  10. #11 Barbed Wire,
    Going by the flag on your post you live in a democratic United States but it is sad that you appallingly support and enjoy the butchering of thousands of Syrians ( including children and the elderly ) whose only crime is a demand for democrary and rule of law. Only dictators and blood suckers take pleasure in rounding up fellow human beings in barbed wire before butchering them with their tanks. You can use your tanks on the Lozis but remember destiny
    will judge you harshly for every drop of human blood you violently shed.

  11. Viva Nkoyas, abash MMD former Goevrnment laders like Sinyinda desperate to resuscitate their political fortunes by abusing the peac loving people of Western province. Any sensible Lozi will leave these politicans alone, let them answer for their treasonable utterances when the law catches up with them!!!

  12. If Lozis have the right of association then surely they will be gracious enough to grant the same to the Nkoyas and Mbundas. Not so ba Rotse?

  13. #3 DO JO – which tribes lived in western province before the lozis came there? That place was full of animals, it was wild – you ignorant nkoya. The luyis came and occupied that empty land and then they were followed by the kololos who brought the language of what is now called lozi. You are all ignorant bums. We know you Nkoyas have no spine, yellow-bellied arse-lickers, you are all women, no men. Go to hell with your cowardice. Nobody needs you. When things start changing for the better you will come wanting to be part of it. We know you. During independence you were informers for the colonialists. That is why you have struggled to make it on national front, because nobody trusts you. So if you shut up maybe some people might start taking you serious. We know you bloody sell-outs!

    • You are the ignorant bum…who told you that there where animals living there??? Lets see, you read that shit in your history books…written by white people…who got the story from the Lozis…think deeper you small minded uneducated person, your history is subjective-told by yourselves…if you think there was nobody living in Western ZED in the 1300 hundreds then you probably have a Zambian grade 12 Cert. or two-three education after high school or you are Lozi…Your so called Barotse Agreement is a sharm, the very whiteman that sold your kind in slavery is the one you run to for protection, against who?! How do i run to a lion for protection, u backward people brought trouble to Zed and now you want to do it again…PS;
      am not Nkoya, I AM ZAMBIAN FIRST AND NSENGA SECONDLY…PERIOD

  14. #7 St. Louis, you are wrong. Ireena @ 9 is correct. Luchazis, Nkangalas, Luvales, and Chokwes are not part, nor are they under, the BRE so they are not involved in this nonsense. Therefore there is no need for those ethnic groups to issue a statement for or against. May be the Mbundas should since they are under the BRE. I disagree with people who say that Lozi is not a trine but a group of tribes. Lozi is a distinct tribe. The Barotse (Lozi) came from the South.

  15. A comedy of errors by Chansa Kabwela has come back to ZED, why is it that Sinyinda has now changed his name to Wainyae, is it that it should sound more Lozi than when he was Deputy last year and even watched his MMD friends kill his brothers and today he says he will die for them. No sir, u will not decieve anyone in WP, you are a liar and traitor to your brothers. I think the government must call for a referendum and ask pipo to vote to shame the BRE. You will lose like MMD and UNIP.

    • @San Jose
      You are a complete ignoramus. Wainyae is a Mbunda name and just shows that who you think is Lozi can be Nkoya, Kwangwa, Mbunda, Nyengo etc. There was no referendum before the BA64 was signed and there will not be a referendum to announce its abrogation.

  16. @BLUE BLOOD

    Which history books are you reading? There is no ethnic group that came from the south called Lozi. The Kololos came from the south and called the people they found in Barotseland “Rotse” (of the plain). Please get yourself an education. Don’t be like Satan; quick to talk (in your case, blog) before you think.

    • History books written by white people with stories narrated to them by Lozis…subjectivity written all over them…anyway, Zambia has taken over, get used to it!

    • It is you who has to get used to a free Barotseland!! Get used to it, u mavva! Where were your ancestors instead of talking to the whites? Were they busy chasing monkeys?

  17. So who exactly are the ”Rotse” if the Nkoya do not want to be associated with the insurgents?we maybe dealing with south african insurgents here?

  18. let the Nkoyas go to dam hell. what do they have apart from the stupid kaoma thing of them. infact its better they fall under north western province. Mr Sata sir well done. its good they move to northwestern. Nkoyas are naturally liars and full of jealous. if you have a Nkoya in the office, that office will have nor peace and just full of Gossip, they never grow at all. so go to dam hell of yours ok. Mafiyenu

  19. to tell all of you the truth, i really see these chiefs of zambia to be selfish, lazy and evil… Trully speaking, we really do not need these chiefs. They hinder development

  20. #24 Namalikita, I am sorry I have no time to study the fairy tales a of divisive people called Lozis. I think the Nkoyas are right to disassociate themselves from these selfish clowns.

  21. Zambias the international community will not support this evil act the enemy has been exposed putting all the good people from Western Province at risk. wait and see how they will treated I urge Zambians to denounce this evil act.I urge the Media to go Western Province and ask the people whether they support this evil act shame on you

    • Oh such a beautiful vttengie. I love the new plate with the bunnies and nest. Your grandmother’s chest and picture are perfect together, and your tray just compliments the whole look. I hope you will link this to Table Top Tuesday. It is perfect and I know others would enjoy the inspiration. I will have Mr. Linky up this evening. Hugs, Marty

  22. What the International community does not support is the abrogation of an International Agreement like the BA64. This is the reason why Barotse Self-determination is justified

  23. Don’t take a handful of about 1% Nkoya traitors who have been paid by government to make noise and frustrate the Barotse cause seriously. The real contention is that the senior chief for Kaoma is not Nkoya. This isa domestic issue which can be resolved at Lealui, not in Zambian parliament or by Sata. What these fools don’t understand is that it is the same abrogation of the BA64 that has made it difficult to develop the entire Zambia, let alone address the needs of the Nkoyas in particular. We are not planning to make Nkoya slaves in Barotseland. This is 21st century. But those who need to be in Zambia can pack and go to Lusaka. Kaoma is part of Barotseland up to Kafue. 

  24. Kaoma, including Kafue National park west of Kafue river is part of Barotseland. this is the natural boundary between Zambia and Barotseland. If you don’t believe that, ask the animals in the park they will tell you where they belong. They know Litunga.

  25. Zambia is indeed a great country,it shows that its important to talkwhen faced with issues no matter how taboo,its only the truth that shall set us free.Its only a few weeks ago that Ban Ki Moon stirred the nation with the Gay debate,the whole country s tongues were waggling with different opinions,within days that has evaporated,now its this Barotse thing,within a few days if not already its becoming stale news and will only remain on the lips of tired and lazy tribalists.

  26. Nkoya people used to live in kalabo, but moved to kaom due to the floods there. The relationship between nkoyas, nyengos, makwamwenyi is so close that they cannot be separated.

    I do not see why my Nokia brothers feel threatened to be part of Barotseland, but feel free to be part of northern Rhodesia. It is strange.

    Nkoyas are not the custodians of kaoma and lukulu. Thisblandnisncomprised of luvales, mbindas, nyengos, kwangwas, etc. two chiefs, mwene kahale, mute do are in kaoma.

    Just like Barotseland want to be alone, it is possible that nkoyas should get kaoma if they want.

    But Barotseland is moving forward.

    In fact it is difficult to know what knows want.vtheyvwant Itezhi tezhi, kasempa, Mufimbwe and kabompo. I think they are are wrong.

  27. Why are the ‘Lozi’ people trashing the Nkoya for opposing them?In a democratic society they are entitled to make their choice.
    Now to backward people like Chipuba something who think bemba speaking people are the cause of their misery,were there any Bembas when you were duped by the British?Where there any Bemba speaking people at the recent meeting?
    You need to stop this hatred against people who have nothing to do with your colonial minds.
     

  28. Its not like Nkoyas are hated in Barotseland. They are beloved. They are the best drum and silimba music experts. They are close to the Litunga. They commnicate with Litunga and induna through music. Lewanika was kind enough to allow Nkoya Royal system to continue existing in Barotseland as part of our cultural heritage. Nkoyas are the majority Lozi group in Barotseland. They are scattered through out Barotseland, especially in Kalabo. But we have a few Nkoyas who have been paid by government to oppose the Barotse issue. These are embarassing us. Interestingly, Nkoyas are a minority in Kaoma which they want to turn into Kafue province. The rest of other Lozi groups together with Mbundas and the rest of other Zambian tribes are the majority there. Do they know who can solve their complaint?

  29. Let us call a spade by its name. It is the BRE who is embarrassing Western Province by coming out with greedy and self centred politics. If you are close to the Royal family, ask them about the Nkoya, they will tell that we are natives of Western Province, your BRE found Nkoyas in Western Province that why we are found in every district, every village in Western Province and beyond.

    It the BRE who have failed to practice democracy despite all the British sponsored education that may BRE members have. You must be young to think that Government has made Nkoyas to oppose the BA 64. Nkoyas opposed the BA and all other concessions signed by BRE since Europeans first arrived in that region. If we have been paid by all previous government all this time, Nkoyas would be dollar billionaires now.

  30. @ Nduma

    Can you provide statistics to prove that Nkoyas are a minority in Kaoma? To make things even more interesting, can you provide statistics of all tribes in Western Province to see who is majority and who is a minority?

    Let us also recap because there is no tribe called Lozi, so those who call themselves Lozi,what tribe are they and how many are they? You will find that those who are making noise about the BA64 are the minority in Western Province and we are not going to let a small group of greedy people decide our fate!

    The publicity that we are enjoying is what has now necessitated the formation of Kafue Province and we are not going back on our agenda since most of you have shown blatant tribalism and greediness. You have lost the BA64 argument.

  31. Ladies and gentlemen,
    The so-called King Cobra, SATA is not as kind as his jokes and lies.
    He has a great sense of humur only for his interest, not that of the audience – I hope we all know.
    SATA does not care what happens to you as long as what he says and does gives him his projected interest.
    The fact that a snake may glitter in your eyes does not make it an onament.
    What Lozis and all Zambians must know is that SATA is capable of doing anything including turning into a fully flaged dictator; and that can be very easy for him because Zambia has got resources and so big nations can easily back him up for their own interest. Aha, dont pretend you guys, you have seen what happens in the middle-east!!
    Now that SATA is already in Power he can easily use terrible iron against lozis.

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