AUTOREC ENTERPRISE, LTD. JAPAN
Beforward Japan

Anybody engaging in vices like Gay Marriage would be arrested and prosecuted-Lungu

Time Posted: April 8, 2013 12:53 pm
Home Affairs Minister Edgar Lungu

Home Affairs Minister Edgar Lungu

Acting President Edgar Lungu says government is concerned with reports of gay marriages and has called on the church to partner with it in the fight against the vice.

Mr Lungu who is Home Affairs Minister and Chawama Member of Parliament (MP) has warned that anybody engaging in such vices would be arrested and prosecuted because Zambian laws did not support such marriages.

He said when he flagged off a ‘21 days Jesus is coming again crusade’, of the Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) church organised by Chawama SDA at Chawama Basic School ground in Lusaka on Sunday that the church had an important role in helping government fight criminal and evil acts like gay marriages.

Mr Lungu said in a speech read on his behalf by his deputy Stephen Kampyongo that government was saddened with reports of young Zambian men who recently went to the registrar of marriages at the Lusaka Civic Centre to try and register their marriages with white men.

He said the challenge was not only for the government but one that needed partnership with the church as it had never been witnessed in the country’s history.

Mr Lungu asked the people of Chawama who had gathered to listen to his address whether they would agree to see gay and lesbianism marriages registered in Zambia to which the crowd responded in the negative.

He said such were things which churches needed to discuss with their membership and give biblical guidance because the nation would not accept such unchristian conducts.

“As a nation and government, we will not accept foreign misdemeanors because we have never known same marriages of man to man, or woman to woman and the bible does not allow. We would better remain poor as a nation than to accept some of these norms perpetuated by people with money who want to destroy our society,” he said.

He said Zambian laws did not provide for gay marriages and as such government would not sit back and allow men marrying one another.

“We will not sit back and watch man marrying man, or woman and woman. We will arrest them and deal with them according to the law,” he said.

Mr Lungu said it was the role of the church to inculcate good morals through its teachings and government was happy that the SDA church was doing so.

55 Comments

  1. 0
    -1
    vote
    flag Edwin says: Edwin
    April 8, 2013 at 1:03 pm |

    Arrest paul who was at muvi tv well spoken mr president.

    Reply
  2. 0
    -1
    vote
    flag big king says: big king
    April 8, 2013 at 1:04 pm |

    Homosexuality, what a dirty thing. i cant imaging a man having sex with a fellow man, woman to woman.Whatever the price this practice should never be allowed in Zambia

    Reply
  3. vote
    flag Mo taim says: Mo taim
    April 8, 2013 at 1:04 pm |

    Do what you think is right.Chalo chenu bakamba.Where i`m kwaliba freedom of expression kanshi kuti wapapa ngawasanga ba guy baleisalipa.Litensha chalo bane.To each his own beliefs and philosophy.

    Reply
  4. 0
    -1
    vote
    flag 2201, Kalanga Street says: 2201, Kalanga Street
    April 8, 2013 at 1:08 pm |

    Why is there a proliferation and a preponderance of homosexual conduct and behaviour in Lusaka?

    Reply
  5. 0
    -1
    vote
    flag sisi says: sisi
    April 8, 2013 at 1:18 pm |

    Shoot all homos on sight

    Reply
  6. vote
    flag The London Eye says: The London Eye
    April 8, 2013 at 1:28 pm |

    ”Mr Lungu said in a speech read on his behalf”. Every Jim and Jack has speech read on their behalf, baffling.

    Reply
  7. vote
    flag blacky says: blacky
    April 8, 2013 at 1:30 pm |

    that ka kasonkomona chap looks sick..arrest his friends too..

    Reply
  8. vote
    flag analysis says: analysis
    April 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm |

    If I was to shoot a president, I would not waste my bullet on such a Guy. He really would not be worth a bullet from an air gun!!

    Reply
  9. +1
    0
    vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 1:42 pm |

    This is indignation and should be condemned with the utmost contempt it deserves.?
    MMuslim males like to marry underage girls within their own families. I guess we should “redefine” marriage for them too right? I guess polygamy is ok Mr Lungu?
    What is wrong with gay married? isn’t that better than seeing children as young as 12 being forced in marriage?
    Marriage equality will not result in more nor less children to same-sex couples. After adopting it will mean those children will have the benefit of having parents who are married. If the standard is the protection of children, any rational person will be in favour of marriage equality. How can anyone who is concerned about the rights of children be in favour of denying any child the right to have his or her parents be married?
    Thanks

    Reply
    1. vote
      flag DrQ says: DrQ
      October 21, 2013 at 1:36 am |

      well said..

  10. vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm |

    Mr Lungu, Why victimise them the same argument can be made for homosexuals . Since the beliefs of religious conservatives (generally) are not their beliefs, doesn’t that violate homosexuals’ freedom of religion? We are all entitled to our own beliefs, but we should not expect everybody else to conform to them. Same sex marriage has no logical impact on the everyday lives of religious Zambians but You denying same sex couples the right to marry does have a direct impact on the everyday lives of homosexuals. Marriage may be a religious issue for many but the fact is, we also have civil marriage, which has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Religious groups and churches have every right to deny same sex marriage in their parish, but You have absolutely no right to deny it
    Thanks

    Reply
  11. vote
    flag analysis says: analysis
    April 8, 2013 at 1:51 pm |

    SATA is not going anywhere any time soon. He knows how to play the game only people like Chiluba could have beaten him at this game of politics. he will be playing with his ministers in a way that they won’t know what is going on in their own homes. When they are asleep they will feel like he is standing their watching every breath they take. The guy is at State house sweating right now, he can’t go anywhere. He is simply receiving emails and doing as he is told all the way from China! Before he know it he will be saying wamuyayaya. This guy does not even know that he is entangling himself into Sata’s cobra web. Sata can simply distance himself from these statements if the don’t go down well. He is smart man!

    Reply
  12. vote
    flag analysis says: analysis
    April 8, 2013 at 1:53 pm |

    Mushota welcome back my sister!

    Reply
  13. 0
    -1
    vote
    flag ndobo says: ndobo
    April 8, 2013 at 1:55 pm |

    Lungu for once you are doing a very job, keep at it!…
    cage them!, cage them! why is it in those gay marriages,, blacks are females and whites are male??????????????
    and if gays are born gay, why do they get sick when ejaculation is done inside their asses???????

    Reply
  14. vote
    flag Nyama Soya says: Nyama Soya
    April 8, 2013 at 1:56 pm |

    Ba Acting President mwalasa apa….one cold beer for ‘ His Excellency’…!!

    Reply
  15. vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 2:04 pm |

    I know I have been vilifies and hated in here but what I don’t understand is the absurdness at Lusakatimes to disparage gay people who
    Are just the same as you and I.
    So Mr lungu, what of the children on the streets we need to “protect” our children. Are we worried that letting gays get married will double the attendance of the PF to turn all our children gay? If we are talking about the children of a gay couple whether through adoption (that is a whole other issue), artificial insemination, surrogacy, or the old fashioned way; then would it not be more beneficial for these children to have a married couple as parents, particularly for legal reasons?
    These people are often better than the single parents or no parents who father their children and abandon them

    Thanks

    Reply
  16. vote
    flag mwansa kabwe says: mwansa kabwe
    April 8, 2013 at 2:05 pm |

    What about Fred Membe the Post man why is he not arrested

    Reply
  17. vote
    flag mwansa kabwe says: mwansa kabwe
    April 8, 2013 at 2:08 pm |

    What about Post Paper man who are in this act why are they not arrested?

    Reply
  18. +1
    0
    vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 2:09 pm |

    Stop quoting the bible!
    This is a sensitive issue, but the Bible does not treat homosexual relationships any differently to heterosexual relationships. The Bible clearly states that any sexual relationships outside marriage are sins against God. Thus the only sexual relationships which are endorsed by the Bible are those that take place between a husband and wife in marriage.
    I think that the main point of this entire argument has been missed. I believe one of the commandments was “love thy neighbour”. Not “love thy neighbour as long as he is not black, gay,white, has brownhair…”.
    Surely this statement condemns the actions of many of you and zambians as their actions of late towards the homosexual community has been anything but loving.
    Thanks

    Reply
  19. vote
    flag Sievu kamba vachende says: Sievu kamba vachende
    April 8, 2013 at 2:22 pm |

    Paul Kasonkomona will be put in jail to enjoy his activitism. the guys there will enjoy his back side then when comes out he will surely be the opposite.

    Reply
  20. vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 2:35 pm |

    This Mr Lungu has upset me, correct me if I am wrong but the whole argument really comes down to letting consenting adults do as they wish, provided they are not hurting anybody, and keeping our beliefs out of the lives of others, just as we expect for ourselves. Homosexuals getting married really has no effect on anybody but themselves. Although with all the extra weddings, gifts, and honeymoons, it would actually be a good way to stimulate the economy!
    Hiding behind the blanket of a ‘christian nation’ is unfounded You talk about Christianity but do you practice it? Mr Chiluba who advocated this for your country was arguably the biggest casualty of the fall from grace of the embezzlement stories were anything to go by

    Allow gay marriages your arguments have no substance

    Thanks

    Reply
  21. vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 2:38 pm |

    This Mr Lungu has upset me, correct me if I am wrong but the whole argument really comes down to letting consenting adults do as they wish, provided they are not hurting anybody, and keeping our beliefs out of the lives of others, just as we expect for ourselves. Homosexuals getting married really has no effect on anybody but themselves. Although with all the extra weddings, gifts, and honeymoons, it would actually be a good way to stimulate the economy!
    Hiding behind the blanket of a ‘christian nation’ is unfounded You talk about Christianity but do you practice it? Mr Chiluba who advocated this for your country was arguably the biggest casualty of the fall from grace of the embezzlement stories were anything to go by

    Leave them alone!
    Thanks

    Reply
  22. vote
    flag THE ONLY LIVING JAY says: THE ONLY LIVING JAY
    April 8, 2013 at 2:44 pm |

    When in oppozition, the PF waz accuzed of habouring homosexual ideaz in the meetingz they had with some Western Diplomats. It would be interesting to hear what the oppozition will say this time around. Human rights violation??
    This non-issue of homosexuality must be handled very carefully with a level-headed approach. To go on rampage arresting the so called gayz or pro-gay activists may have ghastly consequencez. Remember Zambia iz not an island. What exactly doez the constitution say or not say?

    Reply
  23. vote
    flag gershom says: gershom
    April 8, 2013 at 2:45 pm |

    Mushota read the bible very well. All sin z sin bt there are sins tht carry within themselves greater punishments. Wen u read Romans chapter 1 it tells u Y God destroyed certain pipo and y sodom was destroyed- it was bcoz of acts of abominations like gayism/same sex mariage. The bible describes gayism as un natural desires (its nt humanly), meaning such things are nt for human beings and as such we shud tolerate the nonsense. We love them as human beings bt we shall nt tolerate them involving in abominable, un natural and un human acts, no we won’t……

    Reply
  24. vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm |

    Gershom
    You inadvertently quote a vague chapter in the bible without extracting the excat quote, a mere hearsay of what your grandfather may have told you as abed story doesn’t cut it here, where are the fact, detail them, and extract the wordings you may have misquoted
    Prima facie, Gays sound backwards, but it is not out of ignorance that the Europeans have learned to accept these people as people who are like us

    Its like someone who uses their left hand, why don’t you ask why they did not use their right hand because such is the expectancy of a human being

    There are people who marry for money, non-sexual companionship, even health insurance, do these reasons also threaten the institution of marriage?

    Your insolent attitude to these people doesn’t impress me

    Thanks

    Reply
  25. vote
    flag Blood Money says: Blood Money
    April 8, 2013 at 3:20 pm |

    That **** who paraded itself on Muvi tv yesternyt was arrested just after the talk show and taken to woodlands police,welldone Mr.Acting presido,cage these pungwa’s with their ***** behavior.

    Reply
  26. vote
    flag Blood Money says: Blood Money
    April 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm |

    Fawk them up or castrate their dicksons.

    Reply
  27. vote
    flag consultant says: consultant
    April 8, 2013 at 3:25 pm |

    @ Mushota, read this portion of scripture, ( KJV) Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    Reply
  28. vote
    flag Panda says: Panda
    April 8, 2013 at 3:28 pm |

    Hon Lungu has spoken very well. Please country men and women, lets all unit and speak with one voice on this matter. These “homos” might go to the extent of withholding their aid (Like Obama promised) and we wil be suffer a few consequences in our hospitals, schools etc; but let us fight for what we as a nation want. Problem will come in when some people are prepared to bow th these “homos” for a bowl of soup.

    Reply
  29. vote
    flag Uncle Pipos says: Uncle Pipos
    April 8, 2013 at 3:28 pm |

    Ati read the bible the same bible they used to enslave and colonise you Mr. dumbass? You think everything in there is the truth yet you can not question it ******* Africans!

    Reply
  30. vote
    flag Consultant says: Consultant
    April 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm |

    Mushota, you can read the the whole portion so you can contextualize, then you can hit me up and i will humbly engage you in a debate wich i hope will bring enlightment to you in this regard, yes all sin is sin, but certain sins are more aborminable than others as they are a direct attack and a spit on the deeper meaning of man – woman relationship as designed by God.The devil knows the purpose very well and seeks to corrupt it.. any way enough said …just read it and we can engage in a mature debate…

    Reply
  31. vote
    flag Consultant says: Consultant
    April 8, 2013 at 3:36 pm |

    Mushota, you can read the whole portion so you can contextualize, then you can hit me up and i will humbly engage you in a debate wich i hope will bring enlightment to you in this regard, yes all sin is sin, but certain sins are more aborminable than others as they are a direct attack and a spit on the deeper meaning of man – woman relationship as designed by God.The devil knows the purpose very well and seeks to corrupt it.. any way enough said …just read it and we can engage in a mature debate…

    Reply
  32. vote
    flag Uncle Pipos says: Uncle Pipos
    April 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm |

    You keep referring to this bible what if someone does not read it then what?

    Reply
  33. vote
    flag cc says: cc
    April 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm |

    mushota lead your bible if you have one, gay married whatever you may call it, it is from hell and people who are going to support i don’t care who it is but fact is it is form hell and it shall go back to hell with supporter and main of them.

    Reply
  34. vote
    flag Consultant says: Consultant
    April 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm |

    Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    Reply
  35. vote
    flag Chanda says: Chanda
    April 8, 2013 at 4:01 pm |

    Consultant mushota is right your bible comment ain’t talking about no gays

    Reply
  36. vote
    flag cleo says: cleo
    April 8, 2013 at 4:02 pm |

    Most of the comments here are full of hate and by just reading some of these comments it’s plain to see most people are not true Christians even though they claim to be! The earlier you all realise that Homosexuals are people, and also made in GOD’S image and GOD sent his only begotten son Jesus Christ to die on the cross of cavalry for their sins too, just like adulterers drunks, thieves and fornicators, and not just for a select few, that think they are holier than thou, and Jesus Christ died for them only!

    My fellow brothers and sisters, our duty, according to my understanding as a child of God, is to take a firm stand against sin by simply loving our homosexual brothers enough to take the time out to try to reach out to them with the gospel. That is it! if we truly call ourselves…

    Reply
  37. vote
    flag THE ONLY LIVING JAY says: THE ONLY LIVING JAY
    April 8, 2013 at 4:12 pm |

    This refined, mature, objective and well articulated MUSHOTA iz a nice read, keep it up. Iz there a distinction from that notorious MUSHOTA of about 5 yearz ago?

    Reply
  38. vote
    flag cleo says: cleo
    April 8, 2013 at 4:22 pm |

    ……continuation; if we truly call ourselves Christians, we ought to just reach out to our brothers, by speaking compassionately to them calling to their attention Jesus’ offer of salvation for those trapped in sexual sin (Matthew 21:31), but yet still, be able to do it in a spirit of love and concern for him, without having a judging attitude! Simply put, we should be tolerant with sinners! Only by His Grace are we saved Ephesians 2:8 and only by his Grace were you also saved.

    Don’t get it twisted;

    “Hate the sin,
    love the sinner”

    Reply
  39. vote
    flag kwa george says: kwa george
    April 8, 2013 at 4:32 pm |

    MUSHOTA. WHCH CHANNEL DID YOU USE ON YOUR WAY TO EXISTENCE ?

    Reply
  40. vote
    flag Mushota says: Mushota
    April 8, 2013 at 4:55 pm |

    Just my perception of this,
    It is always difficult to select verses from the Bible and hold them up as the true word of God if you are going to ignore other opinions which are now considered old fashioned or incorrect. Slavery is justified in the Bible, yet the modern world sees this as unacceptable. Surely the point is whether you are a good Christian, not who you choose to sleep with, or gays. Being anti-gay based on what the bible says is being irrational. If ‘GOD’ rejects homosexuality, why wouldn’t (couldn’t) he write a less ambiguous text so he can save us the trouble? The bible is not a reliable book. It is full of contradictions, inconsistencies and mistakes.
    But I am a Christian, does that makes sense?
    Thanks

    Reply
  41. vote
    flag callboy Lusaka says: callboy Lusaka
    April 8, 2013 at 5:01 pm |

    Ba Sakala-nyongo. Ba shinka maanyela

    Reply
  42. vote
    flag The Pilgrim says: The Pilgrim
    April 8, 2013 at 5:26 pm |

    Baboons were heard arguing while seated around one big one which had just graduated from a Human University, “did you actually say Human beings evolved from us?”, asked one she baboon. “Yes that’s the theory they believe, they say we behave… more like them, its only that they are at an advanced stage to us”, explain the graduate. “No, no, no it can’t be, these people throw their newly born babies into Pit latrines, manholes, or crush its skull before throwing the dead baby into a dam. “How many weeks do we carry our dead young hoping one day it might breathe?”. “Two weeks”, answered the graduate, “until it starts smelling that’s when we bury the dead one!”. How come we are likened to this heartless generation?, no they did not come from us go tell them!. “She is right,”…

    Reply
  43. vote
    flag sana says: sana
    April 8, 2013 at 6:34 pm |

    Castrate them and throw thier limp organs to the dogs i say, alase!

    Reply
  44. vote
    flag Alfred says: Alfred
    April 8, 2013 at 6:43 pm |

    As if you can even exit to write such grievous comments if your father was gay? Europeans!Europeans! western values what a bunch of nonsense this propensity for gay marriages. Now some poor; very poor Zambians have sold out to these abominations. some, seemly educated but poor in spirit and values and having no firm principles have easily crossed the line failing to understand fundamental norms.
    see there is only right or wrong, evil or good, light or darkness and a human is a free moral agent to choose either or the other fully aware of the consequences.
    And to God the wages of sin is death.

    Reply
  45. vote
    flag INDIGENOUS ZAMBIAN says: INDIGENOUS ZAMBIAN
    April 8, 2013 at 7:18 pm |

    Excellent stance taken by my A/President Lungu, though he should have spoken as an individual or Christian rather than quoting the laws which these agents of the Devil are against with. Our only weapon is the Bible as Christians and we should not be ashamed even if they outnumber us because the Devil has Lost many & is still claiming more. Being a Christian simply means that you represent the Most High Kingdom & you can’t be supporting the Devil’s interests. Our aim is to make homos repent not to join them. Only ordinary citizens, the Church & Traditional rulers not GRZ can speak & win this battle although the church and traditional leaders have decided to remain mute except Rev. Kaoma who is representing the Devil and it’s agents. They only speak on PF wrongs & opposition interests.

    Reply
  46. vote
    flag Remak Makai says: Remak Makai
    April 8, 2013 at 7:26 pm |

    I am still waiting for hot Dora to speak out. I am still waiting for HH to speak out on gayism. Please guys condemn this vice now it is live. PF has come out clean on this issue, what about the opposition, are you harbouring any homosexual tendency? HH, please speak out.

    Reply
  47. vote
    flag sad says: sad
    April 8, 2013 at 8:38 pm |

    This is what we want the police to do, on such nonsense, we will support you forever. Please keep the spirit.

    Reply
  48. vote
    flag Gwido says: Gwido
    April 9, 2013 at 12:06 am |

    @Mushota, my sister you are so ignorant Zambia is a christian nation thats why the bible is used. You need Jesus Christ as your Lord and please read Leviticus 18:22 “No man is to have sexual relations with another man; God hates that.” Leviticus 20:13 “If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a disgusting thing, and both shall be put to death. They are responsible for their own death.”

    Reply
    1. vote
      flag DrQ says: DrQ
      October 21, 2013 at 2:00 am |

      you call your self a Christian but you are judging people thy shell not judge for thy shall be judged am I not right? It is only God’s job to judge is that not right? so why not leave your judgment on gays and leave that to GOD. You to shall be judged and don’t you hope for mercy when he judges you?? some people are gay I am not but I will not judge them. I its a genetic reaction in the body that makes a person gay. THAT PERSON dose not wake up one day and says I think ill be gay they can not help the feeling of be attracted to the same sex. its like falling in love. can you help falling in love having feeling for someone that is the same thing only difference is it is the same sex!

      Thanks

  49. vote
    flag MALIKOPO says: MALIKOPO
    April 9, 2013 at 12:42 am |

    IWE chi MUSHOTA, what do you know about gay marriage, you are an uneducated whore living in the U.K. living off social benefit. stop insulting other peoples cultures. chi mutu zo ipa.

    Reply
  50. vote
    flag Hussen Daka says: Hussen Daka
    April 9, 2013 at 3:07 am |

    Mushota. You said you are a christian who is a Christian? A Christian is He who does the will of Christ.
    Mushota. if people worldwide followed you who will be future gays, regarding street Children do not even go there it better for those inocent souls to be on steet than Mushota. my wold for is think twice if your mother was gay you would not have there. In Zambia any gay must be infected with issues.

    Mushota I Rest my case May the LORD PUT YOU WHERE YOU BELONG.

    Reply
  51. vote
    flag Hussen says: Hussen
    April 9, 2013 at 3:12 am |

    Mushota. You said you are a christian who is a Christian? A Christian is He who does the will of Christ.
    Mushota. if people worldwide followed you who will be future gays, regarding street Children do not even go there it better for those inocent souls to be on steet than Mushota. my wold for is think twice if your mother was gay you would not have there. In Zambia any gay must be infected with issues.

    Mushota I Rest my case May the LORD PUT YOU WHERE YOU BELONG.

    Reply
  52. vote
    flag Consultant says: Consultant
    April 9, 2013 at 9:42 am |

    You say the Bible is unreliable and then you say you are a christian..you yourself know very well that, that statement doesnt make sense thats why you asked if it does, .wow i rest my case

    Reply
  53. vote
    flag Consultant says: Consultant
    April 9, 2013 at 10:35 am |

    People!!! am not taking Jabs at any one, but there is a growing tendancy among young proffesssionals especially those leaving in the diaspora , once they have attained certain levels of education , they tend to throw away their christian values, am not to sure if this is a result of

    Reply

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

 characters available

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>