Opposition Patriotic Front (PF) has refused to nominate representatives to sit on the National Constitutional Conference, NCC.
PF Secretary General Edward Mumbi says his party cannot nominate representatives to serve on the NCC because of what he termes ‘unresolved’ issues in the constitution
making process.
Mr Mumbi says PF will only participate in the process once issues raised by
stakeholders were addressed.
This is contained in a letter written to Secretary to the Cabinet Dr Joshua Kanganja
who had earlier written to the party to nominate six members to sit on the NCC in
line with the provisions of the NCC Act.
The letter was availed to ZANIS in Lusaka today.
But MMD chairman for information and publicity Benny Tetamahimba described as
unfortunate the decision by PF to boycott the NCC.
Mr Tetamashimba said all stakeholders should seize the opportunity and participate
in the NCC as it offers the best mode for moving the constitution making process
forward.
He said instead of boycotting the NCC, stakeholders should commend President
Mwanawasa for his good leadership in coming up with a people driven constitution.
He said it is the first time in the country’s political history that Zambians are
being called upon to debate recommendations of a constitution review commission
which had been a preserve of previous governments.
Mr Tetamashimba who is also works and supply deputy minister commended Lusaka lawyer John Sangwa for his constructive views on the ongoing constitution making process.
He dismissed suggestions from some stakeholders that the republican president should
not have power to dissolve the NCC.
Mr Tetamashimba wondered how the president cannot dissolve the NCC when he has power to dissolve parliament which comprises elected representatives of the people.
He urged stakeholders to read the NCC Act to avoid raising unnecessary and
unsubstantiated claims.
Mr Tetamashimba said it is clear that people deciding to boycot the NCC have not
read the Act thoroughly.
This was hard to tell,well, not too bad a decision for an opposition political party, considering the uncertainties in the process.Which ever way it goes, they can come out clean. Trouble comes if the end product is generally acceptable, they will not have participated.So PF should now pray the product of the NCC should be ‘bad’….
If nshima is prepared for you and then you refuse to eat because it was prepared on firewood and not on the stove, the fact is you will still be starving and if you can not change your ming you may starve to death. The best you can do is to eat first and then tell off the person who prepared. PF you wont achieve anything by refusing to sit on NCC.Go forth and speak directly into the faces of these characters.
Sh……t!Maybe we impeach our unelected shetani holding on to the PF Presidency. How come all his moves are misleading us in PF to hopelessness? We have kept loosing members.
Nakazwe leads 200 PF members to MMD
By Mutuna Chanda: Saturday September 22, 2007 [21:00]
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Former Lusaka mayor Susan Nakazwe yesterday led over 200 Patriotic Front (PF) cadres in joining the Movement for Multiparty Democracy (MMD) in Mandevu Constituency.
Nakazwe immediately declared that PF was not going to win Mandevu’s Justin Kabwe ward 21 seat and that she would make sure her new party won.
Nakazwe, was in the company of former John Howard ward three in Chawama Constituency, councillor Boniface Musondamwaume who complained about the way they were expelled from the party.
“We did not deserve to be fired because we were only doing our civic duties. I would like to thank Mr Sata and his shadow cabinet…they should work hard. I would like to thank the PF members for supporting me. The PF of 2007 is not the PF we used to know,†Musondamwaume said.
And in welcoming Nakazwe and her group, MMD Lusaka Province chairman Geoffrey Chumbwe said he would do everything in his power to ensure her stay in the party was comfortable.
He urged the MMD members in Mandevu’s Justin Kabwe ward to choose who they would like to represent them as councillor and forward the name to the party officials.
Nakazwe and Musondamwaume were expelled from the PF earlier this year after they disobeyed party orders not to welcome China’s President Hu Jintao at the Lusaka International Airport during his state visit to Zambia.
Weldone PF, don’t be part and parcel of the cabbage constitution
PF and Sata can hang and dream on. Zedians are forward looking.If anything, PF will never ever test power. PF is as good as a sick party suffering mass defections.
It should instead invest it time and resources to finally bring up a convention dodged over 7 years.
It should instead invest its time and resources to finally bring up a convention dodged over 7 years.
Sata, PF and his thugs backers have nothing to gain by enacting the new constitution. I am not suprised by their conduct.
Please country men, we are not all politicians in Zambia. Tucindikeniko naifwe fwema common man. It is very true that politicians will make a constitution that will suit them and leaving poor me out of the game. Please, Lusaka is no Zambia, it is just a city in Zambia! So let the Zambians talk, and not Lusaka politicians. It is unfortunate for the govt to force Zambians to accept their process. Please Zambia is not just for politicians, I repeat.
This point has been made by the president of neighbouring Zambia, Levy Mwanawasa, and he knows well of what he speaks. His own “election†to high office in 2002 was, of course, rigged, according to independent observers.
His party – called, hilariously, the Movement for Multiparty Democracy – apparently used vast sums of state cash in its electioneering and happily tampered with the ballot boxes.
Since the election, Amnesty International report that there is “widespread harassment and intimidation of people perceived to be critical of the government†as well as continual and flagrant abuses of human rights, opposition leaders peremptorily locked up and plenty of beatings from the police for anyone who steps out of line.
Meanwhile, some 75% of Levy’s benighted subjects live in what the United Nations describes as “absolute povertyâ€, on less than a dollar per day. Cheated in elections, beaten by the police and starved. You can understand Mwanawasa’s genuine puzzlement:
Some of the comments would be clear after going through the draft. Don’t just criticise for nothing. argue with points.
#6 & 7 is it just a coincidence? Waa you can run away but you cannot hide.
Mwaiche Chapi,
Where at thou? I promised that whenever I get some time off the daily routine, I will be your guest here. I hope you have since matured over the weeks. Have selectively read through the debate hereon; President Robert Gabriel Mugabe, Premier Goldon Brown and H.E President Mwanawasa’s recent remarks. Independently I have this to post:
It is very clear that many don’t understand or see the intricacies of the West’s hands in conspiracies, their strategic agenda for destabilizing Zimbabwe and spill over effects on the whole region. This brings to the fore the much held worry that this Generation’s many youths are no ripe for challenging leadership and international politics rife under the cover of Democracy.
The observed remarks and view of the Zimbabwe issue is not only dangerous, but very subjective, vulnerable to manipulation and source of betrayal to national existence.
The battle here is about control of natural resources and the futuristic view of active external Governments’ operatives as economic hit men twisting arms and creating the prevalent crisis in Zimbabwe not overlooking the grave strategic decisions ZANU-PF and Mugabe have made over the years. The West’s arm twisting is after realizing a clear and immediate danger of a world in reversion to a bipolar dominated political system.
China and Russia are consolidating as one frontier to break the dangerous unilateralist unipolar heyday day of the USA and its satellite EU countries. The stressed preoccupation of the USA in Global hegemonic commitments in accordance with the doctrine of manifesto destiny has only created space for the oil rich Russia to re-emerge from the shackles and forge a seemingly strong and explosively challenging force to the unilaterists.
India is one such emerging giant whose final alliance is a big challenge to the USA. In fact the USA under suspicion has been trying to co-opt India to their side using the congress outlawed Nuclear energy technology transfer all for fear of India joining the China -Russia frontier. Pakistani is a forgone force whose shift awaits the end of the Musharaf era. In Latin America, Venezuela is standing up with a consolidating spirit of allies in the south against the anti unilateralists.
Now waking up from a slumber and stretched Global policing policies, the west looks to Africa for resource sustainability only to find China consolidating with grips. The West Starts maneuvering and asserting its positions with an ambition of finding a state to take over like Liberia for the southern regional set up all for destabilizing purposes.
Robert Mugabe may have done many wrongs, but the West’s economic hit men and their Governments are the worst evil of the two in evidence of history and their paradoxical global values. They need an African stand to be collectively denied a foot holds in our backyard to reign. We should be open to doing business with them but not a reversion to colonialism through the cover of Democracy. They have no history of national building, African people’s interests or stabilization where hell has been created particularly in Africa. The future of Africa is in our hands and not the western dictates and arm twisting “jingoismâ€.
Dispute resolutions teach that rivalry is amicably resolved where protagonists and antagonists converge on an indaba table in search of a solution without pre-determinism for own precedence in outcome. This means nothing good could come out of media vilifications, perpetual altercations and such resentments. Let Brown meet Mugabe in Portugal and go to the summit with a sense of respect and realization that the Premier and President Mugabe are key actors to the puzzle at hand and must be magnanimous in search for lasting peace.
Also its is cardinal that our African youth marshal skills of catching ill intentioned and managed propaganda endemic in the Western media. The culture of reading and critical analysis is the cornerstone of future value to the national leadership. The Western media is devoted to driving their dark sided opinion on Africa from cape to Cairo, Mombasa to Lobito. This is the media that will never ever report anything positive about Africa yet busy scrambling for our resources.
Every thing African is black:Black spot, black box black……blah, bla…..h. No one will define and positively position Africa for Africans but us the Africans ourselves.
Peace.
There are risks in being negative all the time. The NCC may not be the best forum for adopting the constitution, but it is the only game in town. May be PF would have been better off trying to extract as much concession from the government as possible, instead of just painting themselves in a corner. There is no way back now!
Ba Chitapankwa
Their scheme and place in modern political dispensation is irrelevant to say the least.Certainly, the nation will never be held to ransom by such misplaced gambles but press on with processes.Political boycotts have never worked in Democracies. After two years of blind punditry in blogs as a UNIP cadre ending up with HH, much has been learned to avoid supporting such myopic guffles.PF and Ba Sata have just squeezed them into a political archive where posterity will judge them as cowards that failed the people. Poor judgment there ba Sata
RWANDA: HOW THE GENOCIDE HAPPENED
Between April and June 1994, an estimated 800,000 Rwandans were killed in the space of 100 days.
Most of the dead were Tutsis – and most of those who perpetrated the violence were Hutus.
Even for a country with such a turbulent history as Rwanda, the scale and speed of the slaughter left its people reeling.
The genocide was sparked by the death of the Rwandan president Juvenal Habyarimana, a Hutu, when his plane was shot down above Kigali airport on 6 April 1994.
A recent French official report blamed current Rwandan President, Paul Kagame.
The report – extracts of which appeared in the daily, Le Monde – said French police had concluded that Mr Kagame gave direct orders for the rocket attack.
Rwanda has rejected the report, describing it as a “fantasyâ€.
Within hours of the attack, a campaign of violence spread from the capital throughout the country, and did not subside until three months later.
But the death of the president was by no means the only cause of Africa’s largest genocide in modern times.
History of violence
Ethnic tension in Rwanda is nothing new. There have been always been disagreements between the majority Hutus and minority Tutsis, but the animosity between them has grown substantially since the colonial period.
The two ethnic groups are actually very similar – they speak the same language, inhabit the same areas and follow the same traditions.
But when the Belgian colonists arrived in 1916, they saw the two groups as distinct entities, and even produced identity cards classifying people according to their ethnicity.
1994: RWANDA’S GENOCIDE
April: Rwandan president Habyarimana killed in plane explosion
April -July: An estimated 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus killed
July: Tutsi-led rebel movement RPF captures Rwanda’s capital Kigali
July: Two million Hutus flee to Zaire, now the DRC
The Belgians considered the Tutsis as superior to the Hutus. Not surprisingly, the Tutsis welcomed this idea, and for the next 20 years they enjoyed better jobs and educational opportunities than their neighbours.
Resentment among the Hutus gradually built up, culminating in a series of riots in 1959. More than 20,000 Tutsis were killed, and many more fled to the neighbouring countries of Burundi, Tanzania and Uganda.
When Belgium relinquished power and granted Rwanda independence in 1962, the Hutus took their place. Over subsequent decades, the Tutsis were portrayed as the scapegoats for every crisis.
Building up to genocide
This was still the case in the years before the genocide. The economic situation worsened and the incumbent president, Juvenal Habyarimana, began losing popularity.
At the same time, Tutsi refugees in Uganda – supported by some moderate Hutus – were forming the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF). Their aim was to overthrow Habyarimana and secure their right to return to their homeland.
Habyarimana chose to exploit this threat as a way to bring dissident Hutus back to his side, and Tutsis inside Rwanda were accused of being RPF collaborators.
In August 1993, after several attacks and months of negotiation, a peace accord was signed between Habyarimana and the RPF, but it did little to stop the continued unrest.
When Habyarimana’s plane was shot down at the beginning of April 1994, it was the final nail in the coffin.
Exactly who killed the president – and with him the president of Burundi and many chief members of staff – has not been established.
Whoever was behind the killing its effect was both instantaneous and catastrophic.
Mass murder
In Kigali, the presidential guard immediately initiated a campaign of retribution. Leaders of the political opposition were murdered, and almost immediately, the slaughter of Tutsis and moderate Hutus began.
Within hours, recruits were dispatched all over the country to carry out a wave of slaughter.
The early organisers included military officials, politicians and businessmen, but soon many others joined in the mayhem.
Encouraged by the presidential guard and radio propaganda, an unofficial militia group called the Interahamwe (meaning those who attack together) was mobilised. At its peak, this group was 30,000-strong.
Soldiers and police officers encouraged ordinary citizens to take part. In some cases, Hutu civilians were forced to murder their Tutsi neighbours by military personnel.
Participants were often given incentives, such as money or food, and some were even told they could appropriate the land of the Tutsis they killed.
On the ground at least, the Rwandans were largely left alone by the international community. UN troops withdrew after the murder of 10 soldiers.
The day after Habyarimana’s death, the RPF renewed their assault on government forces, and numerous attempts by the UN to negotiate a ceasefire came to nothing.
Aftermath
Finally, in July, the RPF captured Kigali. The government collapsed and the RPF declared a ceasefire.
As soon as it became apparent that the RPF was victorious, an estimated two million Hutus fled to Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo). These refugees include many who have since been implicated in the massacres.
Back in Rwanda, UN troops and aid workers then arrived to help maintain order and restore basic services.
On 19 July a new multi-ethnic government was formed, promising all refugees a safe return to Rwanda.
Pasteur Bizimungu, a Hutu, was inaugurated as president, while the majority of cabinet posts were assigned to RPF members.
But although the massacres are over, the legacy of the genocide continues, and the search for justice has been a long and arduous one.
About 500 people have been sentenced to death, and another 100,000 are still in prison.
But some of the ringleaders have managed to evade capture, and many who lost their loved ones are still waiting for justice.
‘TAKEN OVER BY SATAN’
In 1994 in the village of Nyarubuye, Rwanda, the Hutu majority went on a killing spree in the local church, slaughtering neighbours and friends.
Gitera Rwamuhuzi is one of those who took part in the genocide. This is his story.
Before the genocide, life was normal. For us, as long as there was a harvest good enough to save us from buying food from the market, I would say that we were happy.
I heard that Tutsis were regarded as superior towards Hutus. For example a Hutu could only change his social status by serving in a Tutsi’s household. The rest were low-class Hutus.
Some people did not even find someone to kill because there were more killers than victims
Because the RPF were blamed for the death of President Habyarimana, we thought that they had started with the high-ranking officials and that they were going to end up doing the same to us ordinary people.
We thought that if they had managed to kill the head of state, how were ordinary people supposed to survive?
On the morning of 15 April 1994, each one of us woke up knowing what to do and where to go because we had made a plan the previous night. In the morning we woke up and started walking towards the church.
No life
After selecting the people who could use guns and grenades, they armed them and said we should surround the church.
They said one group would go south and another group would go to the north. There were so many of us we were treading on each others’ heels.
People who had grenades detonated them. The Tutsis started screaming for help.
As they were screaming, those who had guns started to shoot inside.
They screamed saying that we are dying, help us, but the soldiers continued shooting.
I entered and when I met a man I hit him with a club and he died.
You would say why not two, three or four but I couldn’t kill two or three because those that entered outnumbered those inside.
Some people did not even find someone to kill because there were more killers than victims.
When we moved in, it was as if we were competing over the killing. We entered and each one of us began killing their own.
Each person who we cut looked like they had been hit by the grenades. They looked traumatised. They looked like their hearts had been taken away.
No one was asking for forgiveness. They looked like they had been killed already.
My neighbours
Those you cut were just not saying anything. They were scared that no one said anything. They must have been traumatized.
Apart from breathing you could see that they had no life in them. They looked like their hearts had been taken away.
I saw people whose hands had been amputated, those with no legs, and others with no heads. I saw everything.
Especially seeing people rolling around and screaming in agony, with no arms, no legs. People died in very bad conditions.
It was as if we were taken over by Satan. We were taken over by Satan. When Satan is using you, you lose your mind. We were not ourselves. Beginning with me, I don’t think I was normal.
You wouldn’t be normal if you start butchering people for no reason. We had been attacked by the devil.
Even when I dream my body changes in a way I cannot explain. These people were my neighbours. The picture of their deaths may never leave me. Everything else I can get out of my head but that picture never leaves.
MMD cadres defect
250 members of the ruling Movement for Multi Party Democracy (MMD) who include the entire district committee in Chongwe in Lusaka province, have defected to the opposition UPND.
But MMD chairman for elections and chief government spokesperson Mike Mulongoti said while the cadres are exercising their right to join a party of their choice, the ruling party will probe the cause of their defections.
The defectors were led by former Chongwe District MMD Chairperson Willie Shaila.
Mr Shaila said the ruling party was dead in the district hence their decision to defect.
And receiving the defectors at Chongwe grounds, UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said the opposition party is committed to poverty eradication.
Mr Hichilema said the UPND has room to accommodate 12 million Zambians.
When contacted for a comment, Mr. Mulongoti wished the defectors good luck saying it is their democratic right to do so.
Goodbye MMD, your biggest achievement has been to completely run down Zambia. With 75% unemployment rate, you are probably the worst party Zambia will ever entertain!!
HH [UPND], or Nawakwi[FDD],Mumba[RP] or Sata[PF] for President. Sikota is too biased especially over the constitution, the man can not be trusted. Sikota should have stayed with upnd!!
All of us Africans must ask ourselves “what do we have in our right hands� We can halt this Generational nuisance of arm twisting and underside, mirror image of Africans as the usable instead of partnership.
The Western world has been built and is sustained on our vast natural resources. These resources are our capital we ought to rationally apply in asserting our position on the international scene. Let’s reorganize and define ourselves in Africa. We have a population close to a billion on the continent which over time could be a market for every production. It is time we ended this servicetude and dependency syndrome perpetuated by some “Bad Tendency conspiracies†in Global politics.
In this vein, I endorse the statement of (SADC) executive secretary, Dr Tomaz Salamao as reported in the Zambian Daily mail.
‘NO LEVY, NO SUMMIT’
By KASUBA MULENGA
SOUTHERN African Development Community (SADC) executive secretary, Dr Tomaz Salamao, says no member state will “betray†President Mwanawasa by going against his position to boycott a key Africa-Europe summit in Portugal if Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe is barred.
In an interview from Gaborone yesterday, Dr Salamao said President Mwanawasa’s comments had the blessings of all SADC and AU countries that they would shun the summit if Zimbabwe was not invited to the December European Union (EU)/African Union (AU) summit.
“President Mwanawasa is the captain of all SADC countries.Dr Salamao said SADC was party to an agreement by African leaders at the July, 2007, AU heads of state and government summit in Accra, Ghana, that they would not attend any summit that discriminated against Zimbabwe.
He said there was no way any African leader would accept to attend the AU-EU summit without the participation of President Mugabe. “As a region, we have our own position.We have full support of what President Mwanawasa said. Infact, the leaders will have an opportunity to discuss this matter in detail at the United Nations General Assembly in New York which they are currently attending,†Dr Salamao said.
Mr Mwanawasa said at Lusaka International Airport shortly before departing for New York that dialogue was an important element in resolving any problem.“As SADC chair, I have always said dialogue is important in resolving problems, and unless you meet that person you perceive to be a wrong-doer, you cannot resolve anything.†“Those who have a bone to chew with President Mugabe have to meet with him to find a solution.â€
Ya! PF also….awe mwe.The concept of opposition z misunderstood.In Zed its Oppose Everything
Ci Senior Citizen #6&7 u are same old man. Wamona nomba ubukote ifyo bwalakucita. I have before to think be4 u blog old man. Kafwile uko u old fool. Your hatred for PF/Sata will kill u. Ulibe nzelu we shetani we.
Original pundit(#16),sad situation indeed, but your point being…
Pragmatist!
Well articulated articles. You remind of Dr. Ali Mazrui documentaries (THE AFRICANS) that used to appear on ZNBC especially on Africa Freedom Day. I have a lot of respect for Mazrui.
Given Sata’s disruptive nature,it’o ok that he and all of his stinking skunks do not appear anywhere near the NCC venue, not even “under the trees”. They might otherwise insert their stinking smells inside the constitution like Chiluba did with his “christian nation masalamusi” leaving it pregnant with repulsive elements which could easily lead to an abortive constitutional process.
Ba Joe(23),i have never written so much as i don’t have the time nor do i think readers have it either.Furthermore, i am not a copy and paste contributor !! As imposters invade the blog, genuinely interested parties leave!!
Sometimes I have a feeling that whenever matters which matter most come on this blog,some imposters come and try to divert the minds of the bloggers. What got the Raunda kilings to do with the topic above. We have discussed the killings and exhausted them. Some of know more about the genocide and the tricks of the west and who interest each war is. My president LPM and SADC have my support on their position over the Mugabe and Brown. The other day I was listen to the protest from the chinese govt have made against the Germany govt for receiving the Dalalama in the Kanzelamt(Office of the Germany Chancellor). Despite the protest the channellor went ahead. Later on I situated on a another TV station where the same woman was talking of European interest protection. She said Europe should teamup to protest its interest especially that in future there will be few pipo leaving on the continent. So I dont see it wrong for SADC to take general position like the Zimbwbwean crisis which have….
ctd… 27 they have dialogue and find the culprits of the problems to solves once and for all. On saturday I met a south african and I asked him how true is that they 3000 Zimbabweans are entering SA everyday. He said that is propaganda. The problem is that ilite are the ones leaving the country with a hope of greener pasture which is not the case when they enter another territory. This is blushit.
#3 Imposter.
When the moon is the last crescent it makes you ubushilu ukwinduka nokubulwa ifwakucita. Making comments on your C&P, I would refer to the song by the late John Mwansa “Umwanakashi uwaupwapo nikodemu, tewakupa†Wa Nakazwa wetatawe vyakulolavye…Akaloba ilyauma.
#20 Pragmatist, welcome back from hiding and I do hope you have stopped dobo.
All this issue about the constitution is rubbish. What is a constitution? Who does it benefit? Britain does not have a written constitution – so how do the British politicians manage to be accountable to their citizens?
# 29,
I have no devotion to blogging but to my family, nation and business concerns. Blogging is an auxiliary extracurricular occasional stretch. Probably i will never even get to know you in your life time so why hide? I don’t hide. Hide from what on an invisible blog?
I hope you don’t expect me sleeping online at the expense of my beloved family interests. I understand the significance of sound time allotment to wasteful playful blogging and tangible fortune build up for my family and the nation.
Blogging brings zero value gain. Good and unparalleled fortunes are in contracts, projects, consultancy and tenders on the ground. Do you have any of those in blogging? Zero, meanwhile time and such opportunities are out there for ingenious people. You like it or not elections are only taking place in 2011 where MMD will prevail again with much easy. I know you hate this one and it will buy me insults you are good at. But I don’t care I would rather say it all to alley your false hopes.
Like I said last time, being a capitalist I will only visit and post on blogs when I get some free time. I have no intentions for devotion to blogging at this time of emerse economic opportunities in the country for serious citizens. A friend of mine just told me the time I had signed out that you vowed never to be back. What has happened to be here again? That is flip flopping.
#31 Pragmatist, Kulibonesha ta – why dont u preach to fellow bloggers like ci EASY na The Original Pundit who does not stop blogging not even for a minute and have no time family and other developmental projects. On 2011 elections u sound like Chuchu Muwelewele, may be ur one those who kneel mulufukutu to gule wamukulu ‘king’ Chuchu.
Ba Mashina (32),
If Easy and The Original Pundit lack respect, time, value and pride for their families should we all follow them? As one with a strong family background and inclination for prosperity through pursuit of opportunities, i don’t buy your shallow view of life. Like Pragmatist, i respect family time and live a very ambitious life for more clean wealth better than where my parents achieved.
#29 Pragmatist
You sound strange with your latter devotions. Are you telling me that in the past when you were blogging on daily basis you had no devotions to your family or you were single? Honestly, blogging is just a “by the way thingâ€, of relaxing and share ideals (not insults) with your fellow Zedians. Anyway, welcome back and I do expect you to debate diligently without insults this time and hope your hidings or should I put it disappearance into thin air has made you mature. On the issue of coming back, you friend VETERAN told us that you will never come back that’s why I went into intensive prayers to bring you back and I never said that I won’t blog. I went on holiday in Swaziland were I met chuchu when he was officiating the opening of Trade Fair of that nation were he spent much of his time watching virgins dancing and shunning away from the Taiwanese pavilion. Anyway, Pragmatist, I need you to make a comment on Mpombo and other chaps who are grovelling in dust to greet Chuchu. Am sad to tell you that MMD is finished even Mugabe knows that. Come 2011 or before that we are likely to have a care take.