Veep arrives on the Copperbelt to drum support for MMD candidate

1. The Post Newspaper reaction to issues in their opinion has often left me wondering the caliber of its editors. Looking at their reaction to Sata’s comments in their paper today, like all their opinions on such matters often leave me perplexed at their substandard and poor journalism (child-like) opinions! I would urge them to go to Evelyn Hone or some other reputable schools to learn the real art of journalism that is professional.

2. I agree the post have let a lot of people down with thier standards these days.

3. #1 & 2,
   Through and through the PostNewspapers has been imutable in its investigative journalism. Your problem with the Post is personal.You have indisputably proved allergic and of an easily abrassed skin to criticism.Welcome to the vices of Multipartism MMD brought you.

4. You have indesputably proved allergic and of an easily abrassed skin to criticism

5. I have no problem with mature investigative journalism or true critical analysis to issues even to those that are different from mine. What I have a problem with though is when the editor of a newspaper in his opinion columns reasons like a kindergarten student and what is more nauseating is when we brag myopically about it.

6. What do you expect from someone who the govt has some detailed personal information regarding his sexuality will do to a person who has nothing to say.Movement for madrax dealers has not brought freedom of speech.Some pipo think so but all is in the eyes of those bruised and brain washed cadres who think all is well.The media in zed is always biased especially the state runned ones.znbc,times and daily mail are so crued and need tolive up for the modern change in presentation.The posts’options??

7. mbozi # 6,
   You are a gay but here you are freely ranting 24/7. Do you see any coerciveness from GRZ on your wishful dreams?

8. Sata, the voice of the voiceless as some people are claiming, is very disappointing and shameful.People seem not to understand what The Post meant when they said Sata was a hired gun.

9. Yes he is a hired gun by Taiwan to discredit China for the benefit of Taiwan and Sata himself. Today the shameless old man claims to be a hired gun by the Zambian people. Which Zambian hired you? And his shallow-minded followers believe him.

10. Sata should learn to tell the truth. To him, he cannot make a mistake and all he does is right. Instead of running away from real issues, Sata should just tell the nation what happened to his passport and why he had to return to Zambia to replace it.

11. To me it seems Sata wanted to divert some money to his account. I say so because Sata in the first place lied that the air ticket that had been sent to him was a one-way ticket, when in fact he knew he was not telling the truth.

12. This even explains why Chiluba did not pick him as the MMD presidential candidate, because he would have messed up the country. Fortunately, he did not even go through in the last elections.

13. With Sata, it’s money that matters and that is what he is doing with Taiwan. Sata needs to rest. He should forget about the 2011 elections. The old man seems to have outlived his usefulness.

14. The Post is losing it.

15. Chapi #8-13. Are you really Chapi or you are Chipo, Dr Chuchu’s daughter?

16. Iam Chapi

17. Chapi, thanks for the clarification. Excuse me for my query, its just that your comments gave me the impression that you are a passenger on the gravy train enjoying the goodies of plot 1.

18. CHAPI #8 -13 Exactly what is your point? In your view why would Sata fake a passport loss and what would he gain by doing so? From time to time it is wise to read between the lines.Dont just believe what the post writes. That Paper is written by pipo who have an opinion which does not necesarily mean should be yours as well.Use your intelligence when commenting on issues which are public or your lack of intelligence would be exposed

19. You Chap, Chapi you seem to be highly misled.You need to rest you have outlived your usefullness

20. Do you know why the post is losing it. See, Dr Chuchu was picked from deep sleep to go to plot 1 for being a silent supporter of FTJ’s infamous 3rd term. This time round everyone wants to use the same formula except Sata. Even oppsition party presidents have queued up on the silent supporter list. BY,HH, Nawakwi, Tilyenji,Gen Tembo and even the post editor has joined the queue hoping to be picked up at midnight from bwinjifumu road whilst writing a pro-govt editorial. All eyes are on plot 1.

21. The post is behaving strange.It no longer digs deeper.

22. the post and its suppoters have lost it on this issue of sata.that video fotage is not indicatin whether that is the time micheal was leavin and the hotel has since refused that it cam from them.that video cam fro CCTV owned by the chinese govt what do u expect sata was being monitered by the television station that is carrying the agenda of the chinese and they are the one linking the information to the post just to bring the pipo s voice sata down wake up zambians we have been invaded.

23. the post has lost its objective stance iam a lawyer myself and i realy find it very strange how a paper like the post can be so subjective and carry a cheap agenda of insults.there editorial are full of stupid,idoits these terms ladies and men are very unzambian and does not show repect to elderly men like mr sata,chiluba of levy its time zambians demanded respect from the post becoz we are destroyin our posterity as we are buildin our children on insults

24. Dr. Chuchu has finally managed to send a mole into the Post and i know who he is. No wonder i no longer read it.

    And dont forget…Chimumbwa is being questioned by the cops regarding the recent copper thefts in Ndola and yet Money Banda is busy rallying for him….Ubufontini bweka bweka!

    Ama politics ya pa zed kuti waluka!

25. Morally it is wrong for the VP to render support to a person who is being questioned by Police.It is immoral for MMD to consider even fielding a man linked to economic sabotage. Let us take a leaf from the Hillary Clinton gesture where she rejected funds from a man linked to fraud.That is a sign of upright politics. Shame on MMD i hope they lose miserably

26. Every time some people open their mouths, the stench they emit stinks to the very heavens above, causing the slumbering old Lord God almighty sickening nausea triggering a puking feat of biblical proportions! That is what Sata’s headless lumpens here are doing. The lord must be wondering whether to engage Prof. Mukonge to rectify his anatomic mistake in CK and Francis above since for anyone to concur that Sata is a gun hired by Zambians, they must have wicked masalamusi in the head, mad shuwa!

27. You can imagine if Northern and Luapula provinces were a country on its own, all scum of the world starting from the likes of Sata, Nsuluka, Chiluba, Mwila, Kapapa, Mushota, Chungu, Chibanda to stinking shameless outright wizards like Katele Kalumba would be presidents. No wonder, during Chiluba’s tenure of office, he tried so hard to Zairianize the country and all his kith and kin were like “intungulushi shileteka icalo” when he was destroying it through kleptocracy! Somecultures, they stink.

28. Any more *****s like Joe Zulu on this forum?

29. Bushe pali nashimbi imbulwa-mano ishapala Joe Zulu pano pa nsaka?

30. Joe zulu ulifontini, tawakwata amano just like money banda, so you think chuchu is smart with all this corruption in his cabinet, copper theft by chimumbwa and the chinese infestors, tomorow you chaps will be defeated by the PF provided you don’t bring VJ Mwaanga to chingola. And you #8 you chap BA HON SATA ninshimbi your family tree will be defeated tomorow lolela tuzamilola. Viva HON SATA, Viva PF ichibwato chilewina palefwa insofu na kalulu. Money banda you are just wasting Tax payers money

31. #27 Joe Zulu dont call others stinking when you stink of tribalism yourself. Who told you Chibanda, Funjika, Richard Sakala,Mabenga Irwin, Chuumbwe are from Northern or Luapula. If you have nothing to contribute just shut up and dont bring level-headed easterners and indeed the rest of zambia in disrepute.

32. #27 so i didn’t know that Michael Mabenga,Mulyata,Richard Sakala and Master rigger VJ Mwaanga comes from Northern and Luapula provinces

33. I am on several occasions appalled by some remarks that Sata puts up and wished he consulted on some of those issues that without doubt raise deep concerns among his sympathizers. The issue I raised on the Post had nothing to do with Sata’s recent reported ranting or support for him but about lack of ethical, moral and professional editorial comments of a newspaper.

34. I watched the news footage showing a cctv film of Micheal SATA checking out of the Hotel in London and putting his passport in his Jacket Pocket. He has shamelesly continued to lie that the passport was stolen by a Chinese porter. Even now he is claiming that the footage is a fabrication of the post, Sylvia Masebo and the Chinese. What a shameless old man!!! and what a pity to his blind followers.

35. Very shameless man who wants to be a Zambian President. This is the second lie he alleged in his letter that he had a one way ticket to the US, the man is a shameless crook. How can someone request for $50,000 4 just a trip to the US? an imprest of $8000 would have been ok and besides all was paid for even meals , i should also suppose he was paid per diem by the university. Even $8000 would have been too much.I want a PF cadre to respond!!!!!!!!!!!

36. #27 Has it ever crossed your mind why all of FTJ’s service chiefs/former commanders are in hot soup. Musengule, Singogo,Funjika,Chungu. Is it merely coincident that the were all thieves or there is more to it than meets the eye? Are they paying for their sins or someone else’s sins? Dont just peddle your tribal trash. THINK!!!

37. Here is a “sample” of an objective, professional and ethical editorial comment from CK School of Journalism. “Zambia is undoubtedly one of the most peaceful nations in Africa. Her peace makes it one of the most sought after destinations in Africa.

38. ctd. We are glad to have seen the increase of investments coming from all over the world. While we are aware that investors have taken advantage of desperate need of Zambia by siphoning wealth amass, we should ensure that Zambians benefited from their worth. While we sympathize with Mr. Sata, we differ on his approach in maligning some nations such as China. Zambia recognizes China as an all weather friend that has shown interest to help build Zambia.

39. ctd. Any concerns he has if any should be addressed amicably rather than going on a mission to destroy the image of a country that is striving to invest in Africa. Like all other nations, admittedly, there is a likelihood of having bad eggs. Zambians should ensure that these bad eggs are removed and see to it that investors do not take advantage of our helplessness.” Something like that, well-thought through not just kindergarten stuff!

40. Before I used to think educated Zambians are mostly in towns and anticipated wisdom in their daily activities.I really just can’t understand why an educated person can be supporting Sata.Yeah,t.row PF is likely to win Nchanga’s elections because voters in towns’re amazing us Zambians abroad.You all seem to be turning a blind eye on Sata’s dirty records.Believe me or not this man cannot lead a country.Our economy shall be worse than during FTJ’s era.Let Sata go to hell.we’re fed up of him!!

41. Shame should be on LPM for keeping People like Katele Kalumba, Charles Chimumbwa and the lot in his cabinet.Shame should be on LPM for trying to cheat the people of Nchanga by cleaning up and doing all sorts of things just to impress them.That is corruption and should not be tolerated.Mailo PF will show MMD a thing or two(once again)

42. KM – Russia # 40.You have been away for too long.You seem to be out of touch with the reality about Zambia.Educated Pipo are now acting educated not like the Prof Mvunga’s.PF will scoop the Nchanga seat because Sata is the only alternative and the masses are agreeable with his policies. It is called democracy. Bane by the way what are you doing in Russia? Of all places?

43. In Chingola
    Pipo, Money Banda is a disgrace. He has come with a granddaughter ati umukashi, iyee uluse ine. Ba Banda, show us some morals, not Viagra .Worse of it, his skin looks like that of a crocodile and he has also started spitting when talking like Dr Chuchu, so when I saw pipo carrying umbrellas, I thought it gonna rain kashi mata baletina ukubasabukila.

44. Too much anti sata vs pro sata on this forum. Since am neither let me share to you why I voted for PF in the last election:
    1. PF consistently talked of lower taxes and seemed to know how to do that
    2. PF gave an alternative way of doing business and running the country, eg councils running their localities and collecting taxes, decentralization and general order of life (getting rid of compounds)
    3. Sata had political experience to understand GRZ works & courage to withstand foreign pressure

45. Reporting from Chingola

    The temperature is high in PF camp and opinion pull stands at 80% in favour of PF and 20% is shared among novice parties. Shsssss! Have you heard pipo that Dr Chuchu is very sick and the country is now run by Maureen? Plz confirm those who’ve set CCTV at plot 1.

46. I think the post newspaper is digging its own grave, they are only lucky that there’s no real competition for them. That editorial and indeed many others where they have used insults should be condemned by all well meaning citizens of the world. Sata makes mistakes in his political aproach but he doesn’t use such direct insults, now the Post are giving people a reason to believe that their editors have personal agendas in their “digging deep” investigative reporting. What a shame!

47. Onother thing that makes me want to thow up is the fact that Mwanawasa has allowed Chimumbwa to contest the Chingola seat on the MMD ticket. What does the fight against corruption mean to these people? The man is court for christ’s sake for fraudulent activities. He is not fit to hold any political office. People of Chingola will be labeled fools if they vote for him. Kanshi mu Zambia chaba shani? awe mwe! kuti waluka.

48. T boz listen,what I’m doing in Russia is not your business and I believe you’ve never been abroad before.Vote for Sata and you’ll regret within few days!!!Today Sata is making noise about chinese investors when he was the one appreciating them few yrs ago.It’s a pity.Strange as it may sound,it’s true that China’s economy is booming, even super powers’re seeking for economical ties with china.U must appreciate what LPM is doing.99% of Sata’s promises are lies!wake up.All what Sata wants is plot 1

49. Quote from M’membe (14/02/2002)
    “When this issue started, Levy [Mr Mwanawasa] was laughing about it. He was telling people jokes,” said Mr M’membe. “[Mr Mwanawasa] once said ‘I am a steak not a cabbage’,” said the editor.
    Pipo, M’membe is gay and now playing hide and seek in order to desperately wow what can satisfy his needs. His boy friend died last year in Chelston after the popular known short illness. Now the chap is in league with MMD thugs.

50. KC stop discreditng educated Zambians. Its unfair and undemocratic. If someone is not your views its not okay to discredit him or her. Just bring your arguements and if they are powerful and reasonable pipo will follow them. Cheat politics of calling names is what have retarded development in Zambia. You dont gain anything changing the name of Movement for democracy to Movement for Madrax Dealers. Bring up points chaps which will bring development to the nation. When are you going to change.

51. #49 Ba Joze, what this talk about how PF will win elections in tomorrow. Which development will your MP bring to that constituency. Who is intersted in the editor being gay or lesian? We want solutions to the Zambian problems not balabalala.

52. #51 EASY.New generation of politics is the answer to Zambia`s problems.CHIMUMBWA the riff ruff should have been denied the opportunity of contesting in this election.This is a total waste of public resources that should have been channeled into developmental projects.Just about a month ago,innocent lives were lost on the Chingola-Chililabombwe road.Instead of initiating projects like dual carrige way to avoid such fatalities,over $1 MILLION has been syphoned or wasted.We visionaries to lead.

53. Chapi you are right I thought there is sensoring of candidates before they can stand for elections. I propose is if an MP resigns and runs to other party he should not be allowed to stand for a period of 5 years from his resignition. Or else our democracy will not work. The whole of Africa are looking at us as an example. Even the west are slowly convinced that Zambia can lead the way for economical development alas democracy. I thought last years election had ushered a new generation of poli…

54. ctd.. ticians. Chapi where is the new website SAGE promised. He was not serious. Look Prof. Chirwa gave MDD $15 Million for campaign instead of buy equipment for a hospital which could habe saved lives. These are the kind of political milers we have. No productive ideas. Me I dont care who is MP solong they do their duties. Less has come out from these MPs. Only a few are working hard and producing results.

55. 53, I agree with you, in addition the Ministers should stop abusing public money. Namulambe has been absent from his official duties for quite sometime now but he expects Zambians to pay him in full at the end of the month. Isn’t this amount to obtaining money by false pretences?? This should be investigated by relevant wings of government. Absconding work and receiving a full salary later amounts not only to theft but also immoral. Lets be serious people!!

56. #51 Mwaice Easy,
    Have you resubmitted your thesis for the 10th time? Easy mwaice, I can give you a bit of data how PF parliamentarians are dedicated to their constituencies like Percy Mulenga of Muf made Mopani mine to minimise emitting (centre) Sulphur Dioxide by 35.7%. Now tell me what Vera, a minister for that matter has done? The answer is nothing apart from waiting directives from Dr Chuchu and ukulanyokolafye salary yaluntu, shaa, atanse mukwai. Definetely mwaice Easy, the country needs

57. #56 cont…
    the country needs strong opposition party for checks and balances. Imagine we had UNPD as the only opposition party, ba MMD cadres’ nganabatupa over size. Coming to your idol M’membe, the chap is still bachelor in his early 50s with a lot boyfriends and him being a public figure should know how to keep his house clean.

58. Those who feel that the Post are practising a new form of unacceptable journalism can complain to the Media Council of Zambia (Mecoz) for the Post to be chasticed.

    The contact person is Beenwell Mwale at [email protected]
    or Rose Nyondo at [email protected]. Hope this helps

59. The Post is just destroying itself. Just because they are in a priviledged position is no reason to concentrate on personalities like Sata who is defenceless as he has no media out let to hit back on a level playing field. Even some of their stories about pipo they want to hammer are conveniently put together so they can hammer properly in the so called editorial comments. Objectively speaking Sata is disadvantaged to ‘exchange words’ with The Post, but even so, he has managed stand against them

60. How may cases of corruption has Proffessor SATA answerd from the times the cases have been going on?Can some ibacile like Chapi and Joe Zulu answer me.

61. Cont….They accuse him of being personal when he mentions Malupenga or M’membe, in an attempt to protect himself from their vulture behavior, but they forget they initiate the personal attacks on him. The paper has become boring and petty in the eyes of many Zambians as it has become so predictable in content. They are advised to save themselves before they lose the little reputation hanging on by a thread. They also hijack Sata’s fight against bogus investors and claim it is theirs. CHANGE!!!!

62. #58.Chastising or shutting down the POST isn`t the solution.How many messengers are you going to eliminate for you to realise that the message will still be delivered?You`re trying to venture into a futile exercise.
    I would even encourage Mmembe to have the POST listed on LUSE so that business minded individuals can invest in such a viable company.
    The solution is that if don`t like the POST,simply DO NOT BUY or read it.

63. # 40 the cold weathers have damaged your brains,please come back and recover from insomia.

64. # 52 now i can prove,you are not normal.Go to Ndola (if at all you know where it is), and ask for a place Old Vitaform.Maybe your mind might come back to sanity after getting the $1 million you are asking for.

65. Charles Chimumbwa is being immoral by jumping from one political party to the other and causes another unnecessary by-election. I therefore wish him bad lucky so that he can learn a lesson. We need billions for our hospitals.

66. Guys in the world there are so many newspapers with 4 letters and they know that bad news sells better. So why complain about the Post? Iwe Ba Joze despite that you are right on mentioning your balance and checks with regard of your leader Micheal he a let down to extremist degree. He has tried to sell out Zambia to America and Taiwan. Why go to USA to degrade your country without thinking long term period. Doesnt mean that Zambians can not solve their own problems. USA, Europe as a whole and…

67. Chapi, If I don’t buy the Post, what daily can I buy? Is there another daily that I can read which is not state sponsored or is full of cadres!

    The issues of the Post is as # 61 has said. If you have no idea about journalism learn from others. Today it might be Sata against the Post but tommorrow it be you. Like # 61 has said, Sata has at least managed to withstand the Post. What about you – a poverty stricken simpleton vs Fred Mmembe? You will be destroyed. Think Zedian before you vomit!

68. ctd.. 66 the world at large are trading with China and Taiwan. Zambians dont be cheated the world is united than never before. Anyone preaching hartrage of others is waiting time. Protectism will not help us. The solution is to formulate policies that will give the Zambians the required standard of living required.

69. This debate is not about sata, whom i dont even know. You cant deny that the post’s petty hatred or jealous of Kalusha Bwalya largely caused him to resign. And there are other examples. If they are your best newspaper continue worshiping them. The post is the last newspaper i will read to follow issues in the world around me.

70. I totally agree with #63 Wanyanya, he’s talking sense #40-KM -Russia pliz come back home the weather that side is not good for you and your small brain come back and warm it and see how empty our hospitals are cos they are no drugs, all this is because chuchu and his Mandrax dealers are mismanaging the affairs our country thats why the only alternative we have is HON SATA and his PF.Don’t let your brain completely shrink in Russia or else you soon be like Money banda Whats in Russia if i may ask

71. 69# Francis huhu you are going astray over Kalusha Bwalya. I didnt see the post featuring at the Africa cup in 2006 in Epgyt. Never did I see the Post appointing Kalu in positions of vice President and Technical Manager of the our nation team. How can you blame the newspaper on the failures of someone. Francis you are mixed up you have lot direction by bringing Kalusha. Kalu chessed a Post report in France saying it was private mission he was on yet he was on duty. This is the same Kalu who….

72. Citizen it shows who you are.IF you are gay i’m not even in a billion years. 40# kindly learn to read between lines.Sata has made the movement for madrax dealers (MMD)to standing on their tip toes.We wish you a safe trip to Zambia our lost brother in those ruined building we see on tv and internet.Other political parties are just their to make numbers.iF Sata is not a threat why Chuchu, Mupo, Impala, shikapwasha(shiki) and inkunda are so prone to use threats.The more threats more popular sata.

73. involved himself in U17 in Canada the boys endup losing their first game. What has Kalu done for Zambia as an administrator. He has not even managed to have Independence staduim upgrade yet he has been playing there for years. You will see when the worldcup quailfer start games will be moved to Nambia or Botswana becuase we dont have appropiate stadias. The post is just doing their duty of reporting issues of nation interest which Sata is not exception. If its true that he didnt lose his pass…

74. port shame on the old man to tell lies at the age of 70. Is this kind of person you want to entrust with government coffers when he lie over K72 0000 worth document. #72 Mbozi Sata is politican comedian and he looking for a political wheel. Elections are over and they will be held in 2011 and Dr.LPM is not standing why aiming at false target. This is misplacement of energy and efforts.

75. #66 Easy
    Now am certain that ulicikopo sana.Pipo here on the blog are giving alternative solutions, iwe you are just giving open equation ati fikayisova.

    Quote from #66 Easy”Doesnt mean that Zambians can not solve their own problems” But how mwaice Easy? Give us your profound solutions and not tossing out equation in the air.If you are really a Zedian, u will agree with me that Zed problems are complex and need patriotic pipo to tackle them squarely and deligently like Hon Sata is stance.

76. Easy #74!
    According to Zed govt, Sata’s passport was dented the time he was deported from Malawi. While in London, he realized that he could be denied entry into the US. So the only option was to lie so as to get a clean one in order to have entry into the US.

77. #73 Mwaice wandi Easy, you are really an *****. Kalu as an individual has had no capacity to rehabilitate the stadium.He tried by all means to shift games to CB so that Dr Chuchu adm can renovate the stadium but to no avail up to date and to make ubushilu wa MMD govt to worse are now banking on your cousins aba chocholis (Chinese) to build one and name it Mama Mokola Teka stadium(MHSRP).On the issue of passport just wait for the truth to come from the hon Sata and not gay editor’s papers.

78. #76 Glucose
    You seem like a naive chap who has not travelled.Fortnight before you travel the passport is detained by the concerned embassy of which hon SATA did that pro to his trip and moreover it was USA that invited hon Sata. Plz mwaice Glucose, leka ukupepa dobo ukwafwila balushi.

79. Ba Joze #78
    If Sata was invited by the US, why did he have to go Taiwan to ask for $50,000 for transport and other expenses? Anyhow, lets see where we are heading. But, I wish his candidate good lucky in Nchanga. I don’t smoke, but I socially drink.

80. #78 Ba Joze no wonder your party will not go anywhere you are still blogging tomorrow is bye-election day. You are kind of leaders who are hammpering development. Sata Iam sorry to say I will not give him my vote regards of lack of leaders in the country. Once he attains power Zambia will be borrowing like Sudan, Seirra loene, Liberia. He has leadership quailities anymore. He s fit to be a headman not a president of the nation. Take his to Mpika so that he can takeover from his father as chief.

81. #67.It`s put up or shut up.The Post is a privately owned paper and so if you want to counter their reporting,simply form your own.Otherwise,don`t bore us with the crap of complaints.
    I am personally tired of this lunacy of praising the POST when it suits you and denouncing them when it doesn`t line up with what you like.(PASTE & COPY)
    Do you honestly think that the POST would continue it`s existance if people boycotted reading it.Ask the people that were running the defunct MONITOR.

82. #80 who wants your crappy vote?

83. Who says copperbelt is educated. Copperbelt by far by percentage of population is semi illiterate. Dont count those Degrees and Diplomas which migrate there for work, they are out numbered by riff ruffs, rubberouser roaming the streets and doing some tamanga.
    The SENTA discharge to an extent has reduced the thinking capacity of most of these semi-skilled Bana CB. Have you seen that most Semi-Skilled are housed in the general direction of the pollution.
    Copperbelt is not educated by ratios

84. HK #83, you’re not exactly a great advert for education yourself, are you?

85. Fair enough easy. this isnt a debate you can win or lose. But i stand by my position the post isnt a top newspaper.

86. Now that PF has won the by election let LPM come out and tell us what went wrong. As for V/P Banda he must be ashamed of himself for taking an under 30 year old child as a wife.

87. #83 You *****, you dont know that all the big brains, most degree holders, doctors and professors come CB including myself.

88. #83 You *****, you dont know that all the big brains, most degree holders, doctors and professors came from CB including myself. All the pipo who have ruled this country originated from CB. Dont show your ignorance on this blog pls!!

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