About 338 registered members of the National Constitutional Conference (NCC) have been successfully sworn in before Chief Justice Ernest Sakala at Mulungushi International Conference Centre (MICC) in Lusaka today.
The 338 members are part of the approximately 500 members expected to participate in the constitution making process.
NCC Secretary, Russell Mulele announced this in a statement made available to the Zambia News and Information Services (ZANIS) in Lusaka today.
Mr Mulele advised members who have not registered yet, to do so quickly adding that the secretariat will remain open up to Monday December 17th, 2007.
He noted that the last swearing in ceremony is scheduled to take place on Tuesday December 18th in readiness for the first sitting on Wednesday December 19th, 20007 at MICC.
Mr Mulele indicated that the secretariat would remain open on Friday and Monday from 09:00 hours to 17:00 hours while on Saturday it will be open from 09:00 to 13:00 hours.
Meanwhile, About 27 opposition Patriotic Front Members of Parliament have said their decision to participate in
the National Constitution Conference (NCC) is to strengthen debates and contribute to the outcome of the new constitution.
Luapula MP, Peter Machungwa, who spoke on behalf of other members, said the NCC was an important conference that would lead to the final constitution, hence the need for the party MPs to use it to contribute to the supreme law of the land.
Over 20 PF MPs today took oath before Chief Justice Ernest Sakala at Mulungushi International Conference Centre to participate in the NCC, which starts sitting in Lusaka next week, defying party president, Michael Sata’s directive for them to boycott the conference.
Yesterday Mr. Sata issued a warning that those who have accepted to participate in the NCC would be disciplined by the party if they did not rescind their decision or resign from the party.
This prompted the PF MPs to hold a brief meeting after they were sworn in as NCC members today
Dr. Machungwa said the participation of PF MPs in the NCC would allow them to represent their electorates in the constituencies since not everyone could be appointed to the conference.
“We would like to put it on record that the MMD refused to include amendments to the NCC act so that it is all inclusive, for this reason, we have decided to go and join other people in the NCC to bring about change to the constitution,†he explained.
He explained that boycotting the NCC sittings would only give an opportunity to some people to manipulate the contents of the next constitution.
On disciplinary threats from Mr. Sata, Dr. Machungwa hoped the party leadership would realise the importance of the MPs’ contribution to the NCC and what they have done before towards the constitution making process.
He however said the problem that would arise from their decision would be resolved as an internal matter within the PF.
Dr. Machungwa said it was strange to learn that the PF counsellors that decided to participate in the NCC would be disciplined despite them being nominated by their councils.
Meanwhile, Chief Government Spokesperson Mike Mulongoti has said MPs that have decided to participate in the NCC should not be intimidated by their parties but that they should do so for the interest of their electorates.
Mr. Mulongoti, who is also Minister of Information and Broadcasting, said today that the NCC members have a duty to come up with a national constitution that should stand a test of time.
Earlier, PF Ndola Central MP, Mark Mushili withdrew his participation to the NCC citing personal reasons.
Mr. Mushili has since returned the money he got for his upkeep during the registration and brief sittings in Lusaka.
Please Zambia can someone explain to me the Difference between ‘REFFERANDUM’ and the Famous NCC.And if possible tell me the right way of taking this constitution making process.
Well this participation is really about money. Who would resist tax free K250 million to just show up and eat more taxpayers sponsored food. If these people were honorable, they should have taken far less money than what they are getting. What a shame indeed. Hopefully the come up with a constitution that would help the country recover this wasted money. This is LPM’s legalized day light plundering of the little resources we have. He has polluted the Laywers (Nchitos & co) and now Lawmakers.
Why do donors even give us money, we’re a careless and carefree lot. While millions are going for days without food and barely a cloth on their backs, our elected hyenas will be getting hundreds of kwacha per day for sitting, laughing and eating free food. Whatever happened to patriotism. I have just chucked my voters card in the bin, i will never ever vote for anyone again. Namule vota.
Number 3! welcome to the club? i trashed my voters card as early as 1996? I have told my friends that we waste alot of money at parliamentary level? we give these fortune seekers way too much money and yet the civil servants have gone for years without proper increaments? I am glad that other people are realising and hope during the coming election we should for the candidate that will pledge or sign under oath to reduce the wages for members of parliament and other appointees. cheers!
All ignoble,
The NCC emoluments are 100% appropriation of the World Democratic Fund Institutes.Its a multi-million dollar fund from the following Governments:Netherlands,Denmark,the USA, Sweden,Britain,German and Canada.Much of it is from the Netherlands institute of Democracy.These institutes have requested that NCC should be a paid up service under their full monitoring system.They know that a service cost good money and that Cheap is not always cheap.GRZ is responsible for paper work Billions
Thanks # 3 for forfeiting your voting right. We have millions to keep voting even refuges considering Zambian nationality. That is what armchair criticism do-it reaches its end and make such irrational decisions Now all your ranting is rubbish of a noise gong without a legitimate voice.I wish you well. # 4 you another rubbish.
Now CB MMD youths are commending the government for halting the corruption cases aganist Katumbi?do you now understand why not everybody should be allowed to participate in politices? what happened to simple logic? These so called youths were given money tax payers money for chibuku and chaamba to get them all steamed up! nice job CB MMD provincial chairman as the youth in your area are a reflection of your IQ? Imwe abantu who have been to school? can we please get rid of ba grade four term five
#6 CITIZEN, I respect your freedom of expression, respect my rights as well, voting isnt compulsory.
Ba Citizen what has your vote done for in your personal capacity! has your vote uplifted your economical status? zambian politics is a circus? with the current system it’s waste of time? I am no sucker and i refuse to let my vote secure some fortune seekers dream who will not care about my welfare! I would rather be tagged as an armchair critic! Zambian politicians only have one motive “to earn good money for themselves.” They surely rely on good citizens like yourself to assist them. cheers!
what the hell is happening to my only source or refuge?
Eastern Power (9),
Tell us about the US politics where you are. Are there any politician you know of that have left their seats poor? Is there any General or Secret service officer that has left poor? How much was Clinton, Bush, Dick Cheney, General Tom Franks before their positions and today? How much worth is Dick Cheney?
# 10,
There is mutiny and pressing for sovereignty.Your PF MPs and MCCs have finally gotten tired with dictatorship. They have resolved to unshackle themselves from years of a self appointed Despot taking them for fools.They have realized that he has been dictating and manipulating them for personal gain.Too ignorant but opening multi fronts at home and in international politics he has no clue of.
MMD, China, and MPs too many to handle.
Australian firm begins producing bio-diesel
Australian firm begins producing bio-diesel
By Nomusa Michelo
Thursday December 13, 2007
AN Australian company Oval Biofuels has begun the production of bio-diesel in Lusaka’s industrial area, Biofuels Association of Zambia director Bruno Chisambo revealed. In an interview yesterday, Chisambo said the Oval Biolfuels started bio-diesel production two weeks ago and is producing 3,000 litres of bio diesel per day.
We are a hopeless nation where on earth can a government waste so much money on worth-less NCC and yet claiming to fight corruption.Is this not plundering our meagres resources when they are no drugs in hospitals, the infrastrature country wise is dillapideted and our roads are in shambles.Shame on Movement Muwelewele devils MMD, they can’t even prosecute Moses Katumbi for plundering our economy insteady they are praising him now as a blem-less man. God help us for been so foolish
Govt wants more from parastatals
FINANCE minister Nga’ndu Magande yesterday threatened to withdraw shares from parastatals that have not been paying dividends to the government. And Indo Zambia Bank (IZB) has this year made a total dividend payment of K2 billion to the government as a shareholder. Magande said a huge number of parastatal organizations in the country had not been paying their dividends to the government as a shareholder.
If honest and integrit is what u looking for from mankind u must also be prepared for disappointment.Politics is just one field where these attributes do not exist.What matters is stratege to take advantage of human potential to perform.Sata socialistic approach to politcs makes him less effective in a society that has moved so much into capitalism.His MPs are thinking with capitalistc minds If I don’t take this finnacial opportunity somebody will and life goes on
We no longer live in pre colonial era where pipo will elect somebody because of what the gov will give them, now is the time to tell the the pipo what the gov will enable them do.I am not at all disappointed by these PFs,Given a chance 90% fo zambians will do the same.The challenge is how do we reduce # of pipo who are moved by personal gains and increase those with a burden to see change.This can only happen if we rise the bar and be critical of those that stand handle public affairs.
Ba Sata is a misfit to the unfolding New Deal political dispensation period. His predatory politics through goal post changes and opportunism cannot suffice. The honorable thing to do is retire before under Levy. Otherwise, the vicious and uncompromising MMD young Turks will give the Sata type life ending bruises.They are too assertive and too resolved. Today Levy is being openly blamed for condoning Sata’s rubbish to persist.I shudder to think politics of the the new era against MC(Post Levy).
A life time lesson to learn from:
Sata drove his politics on a culture of sadistic manipulation, intimidation, lies, sponsorship of insulting kids like Joze and empirical incorrigible hatred on opponents. He has been alien to dissent and rules of democratic change. Challenging his ways costs diatribes or slashing matchetes. He did not build a solid political foundation based on values and conviction. Today his word of Ndeku Bruiser, has come to bruise him.Politics is a social science.
Its sad that our government is wasting huge sums of money on irrelevant meetings that can be held at a cost that is less. The CRC made the comissioners very rich. The sitting allowances and the salaries were just too much. Now there comes the NCC, which will also make people who pretend to have the interests of the people and yet do not to be rich. Lets be realistic. Why are the allowances so huge?? Its for the sake of attracting people. Workers in the civil service get peanuts!!!
Zambia workup
#12
Sage U are wright about the revolt that has rocked pf and pipo seek to speakout but Sata has been used by these politician and if he does not learn everyone from chiluba to nsanda will use him.Machunwa did not leave mmd until after he was not adopted the list goes on.Remember 3rd term FTJ used him,he is a good tool in someones hands he can’t just redeem himself.If PF had examined these pipo today they were going to be in good shape.I ll not be supprised to learn that 2011 he ll be nomore
EXPEL US, 25 PF MPS DARE SATA
Twenty-five out of the 28 Patriotic Front (PF) members of parliament who registered to participate in the NCC deliberations have dared Sata to expel them.
This said,
what is power?
What is authority?
With this revolt at hand, does Sata have any of the two tools of politics to anchor hope for plot one? Could he recover from this damage? I beat.
lets multiply 500 by 42m. All this money going to these thievs. I think this is a day light robbery. This money can be used to be medicine for our poor UTH. Money is there for country development but missmanagement is at its mix.Poor Zed cry my belove country. Thats why when there sick they go to south africa, they can not inprove there on hospital. I think by know south africans are laughing at us.
The think to bear in mind even amidst the many wrongs that Sata has done is that ALL the MPs that won did so because of the popularity of sata. Now that besides the point, guy lets critically analyse this from the electorate point of view. The MPs are only interested in the monetary gains……
# 24,
That is your problem most of you kids. Until you learn that leadership is not individual, but system centered, you risk blogging in vain for many years to come”
Kangwasenuka,
The NCC emoluments are 100% appropriation of the World Democratic Fund Institutes.Its a multi-million dollar fund from the following Governments:Netherlands,Denmark,the USA, Sweden,Britain,German and Canada.Much of it is from the Netherlands institute of Democracy.These institutes have requested that NCC should be a paid up service under their full monitoring system.They know that a service cost good money and that Cheap is not always cheap.GRZ is responsible for paper work Billion
kk is smiling and praising the god of karma
“3,4”God only knows when all this rubbish will stop.Its all so sad when pipo can TRY so hard to help us and all we do is waste the money.Zed is just mismanaged by pipo who dont know how to run a country,but oil their own pockets.”23″its not just S.A. LAUGHING AT US.OH IT MAKES ME MAD.
Citizen..! recall Tom Rich? what was his main reason for resigning from the top US homeland security post? That’s what to need to halt? the culture of enrichment. zambia’s resources are supposed to provide the basics for it’s citizens. zambian politicians need to understand that politics is a service? as opposed to a get rich scheme like the case in zambia. we need leaders with intergrity and character?people willing to cut their pays by half and divert the much needed resources to area of need.
Eastern Power,
Tom Rich did not resign on any principles but desire to make more money in the private sector in view of his expectation to meet the best life for his then 17 year son.Give me another one
I THINK ZAMBIA NEED ANOTHER CAPTAIN SOLO!.BUT NO
WINDHOEK LAGER THIS TIME AROUND.PLS.
DR.BUSH # 31,
You are an ***** who has never served in the military or walked over dead bodies. I wish you had or been on peace missions in war torn countries.
Citizen..!you are absolutely right. his desire was to make more money in the private sector and not in politics. now can you tell me about the zambian scenerio? have you ever heard that a minister has resigned as he/she wants to go and make more money outside politics? understand where I am coming from? see why i will not cast my vote for any fortune seeker? once we establish a system that will ensure the selection of quality leadership, I shall redeem my voting rights.not with the current
Ba SENIOR CITIZEN and PATRIOT, may you please put some sense in this DR.BUSH-it? Issues wise people are discussing is not necessary to change government or kill anybody. Zambians are concerned to change this system of turning government, politicals parties, including parliament into NGOs. This new NGO so-called NCC, is a mere project like some NGOs operating in the name of the poor or Jesus. They get Donor money, government grants, and all end up in workshops like this MPs are lineup for.
cont.. culture of plundering? continue voting for ba citizen besu..cheers.
number 34! NGOs do great work that our government simply talks about. whom would you rather trust with the donor’s money, our government GRZ or the non-profit sector? What happens when you entrust a fortune seeker with government money? remember Bulaya from the health ministry? what happened to the money meant for procuring HIV meds? had that money to allocated to catholic charities or some prominent NGO it would have been a done deal! so do not lash out at NGOs.
number 34! we are all to blame for the culture of plundery that we have condoned for too long? what are you implying! so it is okey for the government to waste donor money and not NGOs? we supposed to condemn the culture that we helped to create? it the norm for ba minister to get rich in Zambia..right? no wonder we have ba Vera Hope Foundation as our minister!
Citizen..! I wonder what you consider priniciple if you are able to disregard Tom Rich’s actions. To my understanding it takes an individual of principle to give up such an influencial post that comes along with good allowances.I respect LPM as once resigned from the MMD citing mismanagement and corruption. that is one leadership quality that he has? is it priniciple or having a conscience?
Briefing the press after the swearing in ceremony at Mulungushi International Conference Centre, spokesperson for PF members of parliament participating in the NCC, Peter Machungwa, said Sata’s expulsion threats against them were unlikely to yield positive results.
“As regards disciplinary threats against us, it is our hope that common sense will prevail and that the divide and rule tactics being used are unlikely to yield positive results as we hold the view that an injury to one of us is an injury to all of us as PF members including the party president,” Machungwa said, as he paraded MPs and councillors that are now NCC members.
Ati bwnaji bena zambia …. i can not wait for the bye elections? it is a sign that our democracy is maturing! that is what comes out of a healthy democracy.. the right to decide! politics yama youthy is over? king cobra we are now in the year 2007. forget the 80’s mentality. the laws of commerce says,”adapt or die?”
Ba EASTERN POWER, easy-pilishi-easy. Yes you got me, most NGOs are doing increadible work, even through volunteering of which these MPs of theirs where supporsed to do over this NCC.
Concerning resigning for PRINCIPLE reasons, is like demanding to be substituted because your mid-field is disorganised. To win a match sometime a goalkeeper needs to take a corner-kick!= commitment! Your president (because I can’t vote for such a guy), need to blow a whistle for these confusion in the country.
We will never ever progress as black people.We have this inherent shortfall of basic intelligence.A spade is a spade and will always be.Honestly, even very simple issues must after-all cost us more than we can afford.It is pure immorality to have to spend so much money to accommodate views of a few people.We will never recover from such wanton waste of money.Can someone tell me why one would spend K6.2m in a day when all other basics to attend the conference are being provided.Is it really moral
cont’d
to spend so much money in an ailing economy.What about money for drugs in hospitals and better medical equipment,upgrading of schools,improving on agricultural techniques etc.Where are our priorities really.Whether some foreign organization has sponsored this or not, can’t we reason among ourselves that we being led in a wrong path.Where is our national pride?Are we ever going to do anything right?What vision do these leaders have?Is it a national vision or a personal one?Lord help us!
43,
I hear you and correct you not to be that ambiguous. Yes you will never develop in your life because none in your family has ever developed. That is your own family curse. My family, friends and indeed myself are tremendously progressing by all measurement.
Even if this money we are wasting was donated by whoever does nt the MMD Govt have a sense to use somewhere else like on hospitals roads etc. Believe me when the next Govt comes in they will trash this constitution thus making this whole process useless and costly.I am disappointed with the PF MPs they dont have the country’s interest at heart.Next time PF should desist from selecting recycled politicians.They are useless
Chikumbuso,
That is 15 years along the way.As you may know, these MMD manipulators have planned to reign through the next 2-3 elections before coming up with another party the same way they did to UNIP.Same wine in new cups. They are stinking rich and manipulating every soul at will. Patronage as far as the USA based loyalty is supplying non-tendered technology orders in GRZ. You and i are crying helplessly online.PF locked in a crisis, then they start reorganizing /selling their 2011 candidate.
FIRE THEM ALL is the advise i can give PF. This country is heading nowhere if hard decisions are not made.# 46 has got it right when he advises against the use of recycled politicians we dont need them.
#6,11,18,30,47 Imposter!!!
This is my first posting on this subject.Seasoned loggers can tell from the language and prose used by the imposter that it is definately not me.I do not use uncouth language please. Since LT can not protect us all bloggers just ignore this imposter with an identity crisis.
Zambia is not a poor country. The problem is that this country is cursed when it comes to leadership. The leadership in the country is polluted by vultures and hyenas. All they are there for is to milk and suck poor Zambians’ hard earned money. Thats the problem.
Let me tell you people, Sata, Given & Guys are expelling the rebel 27 MP’s, 6 Councillors and the 2 Mayors by Sunday this week and i can assure you that the majority of them will not retain the seats, they will offcourse rush to the Courts to obtain some quick injunction which i think wont protect them for long, they can get away with the millions for now but their political lives are almost dead. Mark Mushili did well to return the money and drop the whole NCC nonsense.
Machungwa and teh grouo, inkongole shafula, the banks are chasing after them and the only way is to loot the treasury via NCC, Y should i partricipate when the final decision will still be made by Levy & his caninet and then take to an MMD dominated Parliament for enactment, we needed the CA with powers to amend (including Part 3) even if it required a Referendum adopt and then lobby Parliment to pass a specific law making the final CA recommendations binding since MP’s would have been part of
Cont, of the NCC. That was going to be the only way a good popular constitution was going to be put in place in Zambia. Half of those @ Mulungushi have not even read the draft constitution. God help Zambia. 27 PF MP’s kiss goodbye to politics. Chimumbwa, u have company.
From the fallout in PF over NCC it clearly demostrates that there was never any consensus regarding the NCC boycott. The PF MPS who have gone to attend know that boycotts don’t work. UNIP boycotted and went into oblivion, Dean Mungomba boycoted sitting on the CRC AND it still went ahead and he was soon forgoten.
The consititution is above partisan politics
Wont be surprised if Zambia z rocked by strikes next year over conditions of services especially salaries.I think the allowances r way too high 4 a small economy like ours.
As 4 PF,its high tym Sata realised that all his MPs r just using him to be @ Manda Hill,even him cuts deals with Taiwan & that goes straight to his pockets.Abena Given Lubinda r jst following blindly with thr APNAC.Sata shud promote internal democracy in his Ship or risk being publicly humiliated like it z the case now.
I think now there will be a big change in the political arena if these unscrupulous, glutonous MP’s are completely obliterated from the game.These are same *****s (for the love of monotary) have hindered progress in our country for a long time.And i pray that after the suspension of these unruly thugs from PF party,Chuchu should rescind his mind on these allowances and reduce them to 470,000 kwacha per sitting.I want to see a maximum down fall of these JANKS.
wrong message sorry
Latest News: All the PF MP’s attending the NCC have been fired
bA JoZe is 4LIFE
we are behind ba Sata bold action he has taken and the axe on be on Machunga next
Politics in Zambia is indeed a one for men wholly gutless in all their ways of life. Look at Sata, one has to be blind in the PK Chisala degree not to see the pathetic opportunist that serpent is. They decided to be bedfellows with him and now he tells them to “pongola” and they say nix, why? As for Levy, with all the needy areas of the economy, how do you justify such allowances to scum that hasn’t even read the draft to discuss it lively and reach respectable conclusions? Sad indeed.
Number 3. Don’t lose heart. Remember, bad gvernments are put in place by good citizens who shun voting. My advice is keep the card to throw the guys out.
How come Mulongoti has now become a genius on all issues? A day doesn’t go by without him showing us how ignorant he is. Who tells him PF MPs are not answerable to their party? He is one of the chaps who championed the Chimumbwa saga and he is again at it. Wherever Chimumbwa is, he must be cursing them. Let us wait and see what the future holds.
Pliz LT Administrator trace DR. BUSH 31# for insighting violence and calling for killing. Such pipo are dangerous they should not be allowed to continue blogging.
Envoy # 26.
You said the money was donated by donars and you seem to justify the huge allowances. I will advice you to read the times and hear what Magande has said concerning the allowances. Mulongoti is also justifying by giving very irrelevant reasons. Zambians, keep in mind the masses of people who are suffering and its unfair! Infact most of the delegates forsight is even questionable. Can they discuss issues objectively?????
#31 is obviously an intellectual retard. However, #64 you should not call for the exclusion of such people. Everyone has a right to an opinion. He is not inciting violence, and even if he did, is our country so fragile as to be distabilised by such non-entities? Coming back to the NCC: once again the selfishness of the African (and Zambian in particular) has been exposed. Why do we need more taxes from mining companies if all we are going to do is waste it? Why are sitting allowances so high?
Easy (64),
Just continue blogging understanding very well that there has never been a vacuum in the security of this country.Kindly ignore # 31 and leave that to the service.Silence does not mean we have slumbered or forfeited our patriotism and Guardianship.We are in control above and beyond. Blogging does not guarantee a sanctuary. There is need to pyanga nefipolo polo all his family members from parents to sibling as his test for war preference.That is what he has been crying for months.
The Minister of Finance says this money was budgetted for. Total budget for 2007 is around K12,000 billion. Based on the K38,000 billion GDP for 2006, ZRA would raise about 20% GDP, which is K8,000 billion. K299 billion is just 2.5% of that total budget, compared to 36 % on social sectors, out of which 42% is on education and 30% on health. To me this looks reasonable. Perhaps they just need to tax the informal sector so that they can increase expenditure in the social sectors to atleast 50%
45,
Do not try to be pompous, the thing is as a country we still need to work hard. You may have financial freedom but not all of you. Certain things you do not need to grow big headed. You fall sooner than you went up. 43, is talking about the country as whole and not one person like is you. Let’s read in-between lines and let us understand our economy. There is no need to debate this country is still in the doldrums to economic independence.
The problem with Zambia is usually raising of revenue and equitable resource allocation. In my view, taxing the informal sector (pirate taxi operators are in thousands!) and increasing mineral royalties would sort out the first problem; resource allocation is another issue …
In the opposition you do not make a mistake of firing the strongholds of the party or you are gone as a party. Did i hear some saying on Sunday the defiant 25 MPs will be shown the door out. Lets wait and see. In as much as UPND is referred to regional political so is ICHIBWATO. You want to send away the true fishermen, Hon. Kasongo make sure Mikel and his friend Dr. Gay Scotch don’t get to fish in the Lake Bangweulu
The allocation to the health sector, for instance is about 11%, which is far below the Abuja Declaration of minimum 15%
We cry about building of roads, clinics, schools, etc. yet capital expenditure is only 18% of total budget! We need to analyse government spending and highlight areas where the Government needs to improve. 1) Raise mineral royalties from 0.6% to 3.0%; 2) Tax informal sector, particularly in the transport industry; then in return, 3) increase social sector spending; 4) at least double infrastructure spending.
What is your MP’s stance on these issues? Take ’em to task!
#45,personal progress and national progress are two different things.Of course these greedy people attending the NCC are going to progress financially at the expense of millions of Zambians.Does that mean Zambians have or will progress?No!I am looking at the bigger picture.We are never dilligent in handling public resources.We create our own problems and yet blame it on the West.It is time that we as Africans started taking responsibility of our own actions.It’s shameful to say the least
#59 AND 60
Ba Jose blinnah bushe mukeminina lisa ngabaume?. Muleti fye ukokwine ukwamiputila Sata mwawililila…
Mwalwikifwe nga lunshi uwabulamemso uwashikilwe pamo nechitumbi munshinshi.
#31
We are not violent people. lets debate substance and not inciting bad behavior.
we are keenly waiting for the firing of PF MPS by their satani leader.Let the music begin!
#77 Chintomfya,you are the only person blogging from the rural area,i was waiting for you to pop up,and i did not think you will belive me when i said yesterday that “ba SATA will fire these MP’s” but anyway i guess if you were in ba SATA’s position you would do the same, isnt it?…umposhesheko imfumu nkalamba pamushi wikala…napita mukwai…
Is it a miracle to fire 27 people employed by people?
king cobra, fire these chaps.Don’t waste time.kuya bebele.