FORMER Zambia Consolidated Copper Mines (ZCCM) chairman, Francis Kaunda, has denied allegations that he abused his office and conspired to defraud ZCCM by offering Ndola Primary School to Ndola Trust School maintaining that he is a man of high integrity.
In the first count, Kaunda, is charged with abuse of authority after he allegedly offered Ndola Primary School to Ndola Trust School.
In the second count, Kaunda and Access Financial Services (AFS) director, Faustin Kabwe, are charged with conspiracy to defraud after they allegedly conspired to defraud ZCCM by offering Ndola Primary School to Ndola Trust School, an act that was prejudicial to the interest of the Government.
High Court deputy registrar, Edward Musona, found the two with a case to answer and subsequently put them on their defence.
Testifying in the matter, Kaunda, 70, a business consultant, maintained that he was denying the charges against him.
He explained, during evidence led by his lawyer, Fred Mudenda, that in 1974, then Republican President, Dr Kenneth Kaunda, appointed him managing director of Metal Marketing Corporation of Zambia (MEMACO) and later Nchanga Consolidated Copper Mines (NCCM).
Kaunda testified that in 1981, NCCM and Roan Copper Mines (RCM) were merged and that Dr Kaunda appointed him chairman and chief executive of ZCCM, which he headed for 10 years.
He told the court that he was removed as chairman of ZCCM without reason or explanation when there was change of Government in 1991 and that during his career, he handled huge sums of money and that his integrity was never questioned.
Kaunda said in March 1997, he received a surprise call from then Republican President, Frederick Chiluba, that he was having sleepless nights concerning the privatisation of ZCCM and asked him if he could assist.
He stated that he suspected that Dr Chiluba asked him to help because of the manner he left office and that it took the Government almost two years to pay him his terminal benefits.
Kaunda said as a patriot, he accepted to assist and did not know that he was going to be appointed chairman of the privatisation team.
He said that his contract was signed on May 14, 1997 by then secretary to the Treasury, Professor Boniface Mweene, and that the contract stated that he was a public officer and a consultant.
Kaunda said it was not true that he was contracted to sell core assets.
Hearing continues.
what do we believ now?not guilty till proven guilty anyway.
Stop crying and wasting gvt time, just go and work for the BOMA at Chimbokaila like any other thieves!
whats this business of sending everyone to court in Zambia these days? What was wrong with making Ndola primary into a trust school.Trust schools offered high educational standards on the copperbelt. So many children benefited from them.So whats the big deal. How many times did govt owned schools experience strikes.Francis Kaunda saved the day if he indeed turned it into a trust school. Come on Zambia focus on development not these petty issues.
Corruption and stealing need to come to an end. Let the courts do their thing
yeah I agree with yu logician
F. Kaunda was entrusted with a lot of responsibilities for Zambia and served very diligently. Gentlemen, if we have failed to solve the cobalt scandle, and other big transactions regarding privatization of many govt assets, stop this nonsense of a trust school thing! The guy has handled huge amounts of money on behalf of govt for a very long time! The trust school thing should be one among many other dubious deals if the guy was very corrupt. How can one serve for over 40 years and only get corrupt at the very last minute over only one deal? Lets get serious plz, investigate big things that have impoverished us and our unborn children! I will not be happy to see him go to jail unfairy!
we are all thieves
Inonge #3 careful with what you say. thieves are thieves and will remain thieves. Anyhow even us who went through Govt Schools are proud and better performers than those who passed though the so called Private Schools
#3 inonge, Kaunda is not charged with creating trust schools but what he did after he left ZCCM and then beca Chairman of the privatisation of ZCCM assets. He sold the school to a trust which he had shares in without disclosing so, that is illegal in any country! Look at the charge…
“Accused of arbitrarily offering ZCCM Ndola primary school to Ndola Trust School (of which he partly owns) disregarding set out privatisation procedures, an act which was prejudicial to the interests of Zambia.”
# 9 U have xplained everything i wonder y some pipo cant read the charges.
He has been found with a case to answer.Let him go prove his innocency in court not behaving like a cry baby.
Zambia has a lot more to benefit by focusing on the opportunities instead of chasing ghosts. The monies in question are probably little and might be finished. The cost-benefit analysis of the state taking these guys to court will not be in favour of the ordinary zambians. There is need to focus on ensuring that the old trends are not brought back in the modern era. Let’s focus more on providing quality education, medicines in hospitals, empowering our people through employment and entrepreneurship skills. The chiluba era was a time of theft but we now have a chance to move in the correct direction.
pliz leave my dad alone you #### He is suffered enough.
Laisser les chiens de spleeing couchent. l’arrêt m’attaquant. Kaunda yu are an ass hole
Ubututu!! I see this as a normal business transaction under the prevailing circumstances and environment.
#12 Calling anybody names is not going to help your dad’s case. If he is innocent then you have nothing to worry about but then if he is not, you better hope you trip to the US was not financed by his ill-gotten gains. By suffering do you mean him not being able to get medicine at UTH or not able to get clean drinking water or decent shelter or food like 80% of the Zambians? Just curious
No 12. How about the children of Zambia who have died and suffered as a result of your Dads’s stealing of the country’s assets? How about the sale of the mines for a song for which your Dad was in charge. How much did he get in kickbacks? How much of those assets he was tasked to sell did he strip for himself and his colleagues? Some of us can wrote a book on what was going on. Please stay in the States, you have no idea what suffering your Dad and his colleagues brought on the Zambian people.
come on guys. my dad is lives a very simple life. And anyway he was CEO of a big company. you expect us to walk to schools. You are ### CEO of ZCCM is not a joke. He could not steal because he was money himself. As for Zambia, I wont come because you just want to nail us
I have a feeling this is not Kaunda. It should be Mutengo Waminga leading us into temptation. Guys watch out
leave me out of this nonsense Charity. Am resting pliz
We dont expect you to walk to school just like we don’t expect your dad to steal…but there’s a smoking gun that says he nught have dipped his hand in the cookie jar…And once again all the anme calling is not going to help your dad’s case in court.
Mutengo Waminga..you are quite a character, I like you sense of humor…You should be Mutengo wabwino
Kaunda you are a spoilt child
Come on guys. Its not Kaunda. Its me Mutengo Waminga just pulling your legs. Do you think Kaunda’s child can come out?hahahahaha
steady..guns were ready to blaze
Iwe Mutengo ati bwa………ba roomie …u know who????? bwanji life….They should also prosecute HH , we need to know how he got the litco houses in Kafue.
no ways HH z clean man. yes ba roomie. muli bwa. chayuma ise mwe howz Zed
# 25, Ndife, provide evidence for HH’s prosecution. dont just yap like a dog. take the information you have against HH to the police. we better be serious with what we say. kaunda was found with a case to answer, so let him answer. so be a witness against HH so that he will have a case, not the way you are driving us into fruitless debates
the debate is closed #######go home
Z should just do it the Nigerian style with the Abachas. Enter into a deal with the accussed. Let them tell us where the money is and how much. Then Govy goes them some. They don’t go to jail and we get the money in Swiss accounts. This thing is dragging on and on. FTJ may die with secrets. Obasanjo did this and said cuz court is a waste of public money and lawyers are getting richer.
Mutengo ur mum mst have squilled badly when you were concieved. such is the state of your contribution on here. wat a loser!!! I feel for you son.
In the movie The Shawshank Redemption everyone in jail claims to be innocent!
Mbo u seem to be ignorant! dont you know that when you are liquidating a companyyou can not straight and buy the assets of that company you may need to declare your interest. This guy HH has alot of houses in eastets . Dont you know that GT was the liquidator of various companies. Tell me where did HH get his 23 bn???
John Abruzi and Micheal Scolefild are here to release Samuel Musonda………..
A thief is a thief and deserves to go to jail!!!!! But pliz can we consider the cost-benet anlysis.Lets not drag the case for over 2 years and only to be given the suspended sentence at the end of the day. Let there be special courts to handle corruption cases as the would take a short time frame to come to conclusion. Can someone please give me the cost and recoveries from these corruption cases?????????????????????
Don#11 Littlemonies or not. The fact still remains; HE BROKE THE LAW YOU MORON!
what a speech By Barack Obama am told SATA also has such charms!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LSK times is going to the dogs….
Mutengo wa minga should be Chimutengo Cha Minga . . . i like his sense of humour. People, does anyone recall the story that was reported in the papers that Francis Kaunda received US$75,000 from Zamtroop ? Anyway, Mr Kaunda, you are innocent till proven guilty so now tell us your story.
Chi Francis , niwebo chichililalila, apapene wahambo ukulila ? Ala mune waliiba.Go and stand trial for what you did.You thought you were clever when you were stealing, forgetting that time catches up with criminals.Just look at your fellow criminal Chiluba ‘FTJ’.You have to reap what you sowed mudala. Ha ha ha , uli muchibe. Bye !!
In Chiluba time coruuption and stealing was tribal just like the appointments… Nonsense
yes most of the thieves in Chiluba’s time were Bembas. Lets just ko a spade a SPADE. they had sticky fingers and long hands. shame on you. Funny enough they are still there in New Kasama and Chalata
37. [strecyh.dj] You stink. You are the dogs that have come to Lk Times. *****
LATEST NEWS FROM VOA: Mutengo waminga a zedian has run mad bcoz of old’s faeces he cleans to earn a living. Can relatives pls contact the police in the streets of USA to take back to zed. HE IS LONGER USEFUL TO OLD PIPO’S HOME!
Walasa rommie , Anonymous has no idea about PG Mutengo wa minga!!!! the Boy is a genius take from me……..
#46 We know you are same person praising yourself SHAME!
THATS WHY YOU EAT BEMBA&CHINESE YOU DREAM BEMBA&CHINESE YOU SPEAK BEMBA&CHINESE YOU WALK BEMBA&CHINESE. THIS COUNTRY IS DEAD WITHOUT THE BEMBAS AND CHINESES. Ask your presdo Chuchu how he cant do without Bembas&Chineses.
#45
Add Samuel Musonda – ZANACO
Kashiwa Bulaya – PS Health
Boniface Nonde – No pistion in Government
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Until Kasama via Mansa
Also these kasama ka: Funjika, Nyirongo, Mweemba,Mabenge, HH, Chibanda, Chuchu
Funjika is married to a Bemba woman. so the thieving spread. Nyirongo is from Kabwe along the Bemba High Way. Mabenga grew up with your Commander-in thief (Chiluba). HH tried to learn Bemba and got the Bemba fithy. Chibanda wokred closely with the Commander-in-thief. Shame on your Bembas.
Swine, you left Chuchu!
And Richard Sakala
Anonymous u left yourself on the list……….hahahahaha
Bastards. You dont know that Sakala’s name tells it all. (SAKALA NYONGA). there are good tribes like Lundas. They dont steal. Even Lunda marriages last long. Not Bemba marriages. its either you are quarreling or she is sleeping facing the otherside!
Ndifye. Ba roomie. check your yahoo mail. I have sent you something. Will give you a call later. I love you. I dont know. should I put your mobile number on the blog? 097…….
Let me praise Bemba thieves
Makangala mushifukalitwa, mulilo wa konta no kutaluka
Shimiwtwa pa ******, Shimukonona nsono, imibanga minse
Mwe batwika insofu pa mutwe in’gana (inkata) ni n’gombe,
Pantu imwe mwalishishe umunsoli na chibuku mukanwa,
Mulala kwachenema, musunta chapola, mwe bene ba tulunga na menshi, imifolo
ne mipaka
Pantu imwe mwingile nsafi pa supuni, kabaili muninika ulupili ne njinga
yabula chain, mwe batema inkondwa pe sabi ya kocha, pantu ubufumu bwa pa
mbale bwenu
Sorry, forgive me, I also left out this bums cleaner of USA Chimutingo waminga and you, Ndife!
58. anonymous. dont be funny ci kamucheka. am more qualified than you
You guys seem to be spending your proceeds from plunder. What time do you work?
#59 Sorry I forgot that b4 you left you bought yourself those papers from Matero Street University. But American are very clever they noticed quickly that those are fake no wonder you ended up cleaning bums.
#60 Mind your business.
my humble observation all those that are and have been tried fall sick. just to name a few….in RSA a man convicted in the Fire Arms deal close ally to Zuma Shabir Shierk (Spelling) is in Hospital..
Ba FTJ is in and out of Hospital….Ba Funjika upon convicted ni mu Hospital. Sakala Richard……Ryan Chitoba…..next….feel in the blanks Why steal then
No one is above the law.The guy should prove his innocence before the courts of law.
Chiluba’s hospital will be turned into a prison hahaha
Bamangeni bonse mwami
You guys don’t forget that corruption has even increased in Mwanawasa’s administration than before. whre on earth, more than 40 cntructors banned for corruption, ministers and permanent secretaries and directors still stealing despite the corruption figh. Shame on all of you
If Francis Kaunda is innocent, then even the devils is innocent from all the charges levelled against him by God. The way that man presided over the sale of our assets was purely satanic, ask Nawakwi and she will tell you that if Chiluba is a thief, and we have found him so in London Court, then Francis Kaunda is a top notch bandit. He should be jailed for his economic crimes, let him rot in jail.
KAUNDA IS THE DEVIL
PEOPLE LIKE KAUNDA MUST BE NAILED TO THE CROSS. ZCCM/GRZ PAID HIM HANSOMELY WITH A HEFTY SALARY AND HONEYMOON CONDITIONS FOR HIS WIFE (CAR) AND EDUCATION ALLOWANCE FOR HIS CHILDREN. ALL THIS WAS OUR MONEY (TAXPAYERS) AND KAUNDA IN HIS SELFISHNESS STILL WANTED TO BENEFIT FROM PRIVATISING A TRUST SCHOOL. THIS IS GRAND SELFISHNESS AND MASSIVE TAXING OF INNOCENT ZAMBIAN SOULS DY ONE FRANCIS KAUNDA. HE IS NOT ANY BETTER THAN FUNJIKA. CAGE THE ASS HOLE NOW. WELLDONE JUSTICE, KEEP IT UP. SWEEP THE HOUSE CLEAN BWANA CHIEF JUSTICE, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE SITTING IN FOR THE POOR VOICELESS TAXPAYERS ON BEHALF OF GOD THE ALMIGHTY. VIVA JUSTICE!! ABASH THIEVING F. KAUNDA!!!!!!
I AM MORE QUALIFIED THAN KAUNDA BUT I GET PEANUTS. LOOK AT MY CHAIN OF ACHIEVEMENT IN ACADEMICS. CAGE KAUNDA NOW.
No wonder Zambians are their own enemies. A simple topic to bring up salient contributions turns into a battleground where insults are traded instead of well thought out and intelligent ideas.And we still dream about a better Zambia.Common guys, be truthfull with your selves.Life is too short to spend it insulting each other on issues that require steadfastness.We are our own barriers to progress and development.As long as we keep thinking the way I see on this blog, we will always lag behind in development.What a shame.
#41,U shud reason with a mature mindset.if you have a stereotyped opinion abt bambas,u are are wrong!!,just direct your concern to the very individauals who plundered our economy,Do not generalize,.Wafwa na panga!!
It’s a shame to read about someone blogging just to parade their hatred for the Bemba and go about heaping invectives on other people. Perfect example is the person calling himself “prof. mutengo waminga” who seems to be bent on insulting rather than analyzing the current economic and social quagmire affecting Zambia. One would expect such an individual to be learned and show a level of decency and some intellectually inclination to address issues. What people need to appreciate is that blogging is about being able to express well thought out ideas and contribute to the body of knowledge.
70. KACHUMBARI and 71. Fulamatambo the truth hurts, I am from the East and i enjoy good relationship with BEMBAS but i am very careful when doing any business with them becuase they just “tola”
I worked for the prisons for more than seven years as a senior staff. Believe me or not, most of the names of convicts are bemba related. But may be this could not show a true representation since i worked in 3 provinces out of the 9.
However if one wants to get the true picture, do a research and get the statistics from prisons. Am sure someone can fund such a research. This can show us the people who, partially, are responsible to the country’s downfall.
Whole bunch of comedians, why don’t you all form UCZ (United Comedians of Zambia) and display all your humor. I will be your manager, then broadcst your programme worldwide and reap your benefits and buy me a house in Florida while I pay you peanuts…the Zambian way!
# 75 you stink. Don’t post here
# 75 you stink. Don’t post here. Same to you. #77 #78
Zambians among themselves are such tribalists. You think one tribe is better than the other. You are dirty village imbeciles if you call one tribe thieves. You all stink like your own anus.
debate closed you fools