Patriotic Front (PF) spokesperson, Given Lubinda, has advised all political parties and concerned citizens not to worry about the cost of the mass by-election.
In an interview with ZANIS in Lusaka today, Mr. Lubinda said political parties should concentrate on investing discipline in their parties.
“All those who are saying it is going to cost the nation a lot of money are not genuine because there is enough money in the country and other parties should learn from us PF on how much this country needs disciplined leaders,” he said.
He said for a country like Zambia to operate very well it needs disciplined and well informed leaders.
Mr. Lubinda said they are unnecessary projects going on in the country where a lot of money is being spent while people in the villages are going hungry.
He added that the call for mass by-elections is for all political parties to embrace respect and dignity within the party itself before thinking of forming the government.
Mr. Lubinda said the Patriotic Front has shown how much committed it is to solving matters arising within the party and other parties should do the same instead of cruising unnecessarily.
Mr. Lubinda was responding to the Non-Governmental Organisation Coordinating Council (NGOCC), the ruling MMD and the Center for Policy Dialogue (CPD) that appealed to PF party president, Michael Sata not to expel the rebel MPs from the party.
Earlier, Anti-Voter Apathy Project (AVAP) has joined other civil society stakeholders in opposing the intentions of the opposition Patriotic Front (PF) party to expel over 15 of Members of Parliament and cause parliamentary by- elections in the country.
AVAP Executive Director, Bonny Tembo, said if the Patriotic Front expels its ‘rebel’ Members of Parliament, the country will spend billions of Kwacha on holding many by-elections thereby putting a lot of strain on the country’s economy.
Mr. Tembo told ZANIS that holding many parliamentary many by-elections would be waste of resources especially that Zambia is currently facing an economic situation that required resource mobilization.
He noted that the same money that would be used on by-elections was supposed to be used on cushioning the financial problems which the country is facing as a result of the world credit crunch.
Mr. Tembo however called on other political parties to put in place effective mechanisms within their party structure that will seek to resolve intra-party conflicts.
He said there was need for political parties to have a code of conduct that would regulate them, noting that having such guidelines would avoid all unnecessary expulsions and by –elections.
Mr. Tembo has since appealed to all political party leaders to ensure that internal democracy existed in their parties because it was an important ingredient in strengthening democracy.
He also called on leaders of political parties to build consensus to embrace other members in their parties and ensure that the country’s young democracy was strengthened through dialogue.
He observed that lack of dialogue and democracy in political parties would promote voter apathy among electorates.
Meanwhile Mr. Tembo has advised Members of Parliament to continue to explain to the electorates in their various constituencies, the current political and economic situations which the country is facing.
On Monday this week, PF president Michael Sata asked Zambians to brace themselves for what he termed “mass parliamentary by-election” after the High Court ruled against 20 PF MPs who sought to restrain their president and their general secretary Edward Mumbi
from expelling them following their decision to participate in the national Constitutional Conference (NCC).
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Bye elections will trully be expensive. But the question for the common man is that even if the elections are not held will the same money saved trickle down to the underpriviledged.
Ya discipline them. These politicians think they can have it easy anytime. chess them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell the Lubinda! That’s the cost of discipline!
WE R IN UNIP STILL MORE! WITH BA BANDA NABANANKWE!
#3 meant… Tell them Lubinda ! That’s the cost of discipline!
we need better people in politics. Lets take panifull way clean up the mess. Chess them away from politics. Politicians are there for money.
Supa six bane:d
OK early eight bane:d
Chi story cili boring maningi…I’m going back to my Franziskaner Weissbier (no. 3 today) while waiting for wifey to serve gourmet scampi with fried chinese noodles…mmmhhh!!!:)
1# The so called saving money to divert to other areas does not work. This money just trickles down into MMD pockets. Please stop this nonsense of lets save money. If you are serious about saving money. Reduce cabinet and scrap those deputy ministers positions and merge some ministries. Otherwise this govt is straining at nuts and swallowing camels, just cut the crap. By-Elections I endorse. Stop this money saving nonsense. Also scrap Task Force and NCC-just approve the constitution on the table. Then you will be talking about saving money.
This money is better used on by-elections than end up
in poliyicians pockets! Do it king Cobra.
people should learn not to bite the finger that provides them with pajeros,land cruisers nissan patrols etc.MWALEBEPA ABANTU ATI TAMULYA INAMA.LELO WAPYA MUUZI.NIKULIMBAA.
Lets expell the rebel mps,we dont want indesplined people.They are just interested in fattening their pockets and hand bags.Dont listen to Shikapwasha who is talking like Judas iscariot,when the prostitute poured perfume on Jesus.He said that is a wastage,if it was to be sold the poor would have been helped.But Jesus knew that Judas saw some good amount from the perfume.And that he could have helped himself with that money.So these characters dont even mean well.They are just wolves.And pretending like they are sheep caring for poor.Thats why we need principled leaders,who wil truly care for the poor.
Ladies and Gentlemen I Father Kwanzaa I endorse By-Elections. Those Rebel MPs went to Parliament on PF ticket. 99% of these MPs couldn’t have won a seat in Parliament PF help them in it is time to flash them out.Now to all the Zambians Democracy is expensive, Every good thing costs, Let us all pay the price.
Rebel MPs, kuya bebele!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cost of young democracies.
Which organ in PF will expel the 18 MPs. What I know is that PF has no elected executive structure. So are they using a kangaroo court. I am sure the 18 members will win their case in a higher court. This case should make PF realise that they need to hold a convetion. Ba Lubinda, take it easy, I can see the 18 MPs winning their case.
ching ching getting paid over here <:-p
That is the problem with African Politics. The President is always right. If you have a different position, you are a REBEL, disgruntled element etc . Poor Africans!!!!
Bravo to bloggers from 1 to 13. I think we need to set this as an example to anyone vying for the positions of an MP that once indiscipline enters their thick minds, then they are out of parliament. Most of these MPs are enjoying their presence in parliament for the price being paid by SATA who’s called all sorts of names for sacrificing his dignity. The man is popular as Judith Kapijimpanga confessed after being defeated.
These MP will have to forget about gratuity and they have to pay their loans using their own money for being so selfish in their thinking.
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In any set up rules of engagment are supposed to be followed, even in a dictatorial Govt, there are rules by which participants are supposed to obey. And if one is not happy with the rules, the best to do is leave the group before more pain is inflicted. In the army, people follow orders as it is a cornerstone of discipline, and yet no one will say the army is dictatorial in its dealing. So, this calls for making a well informed choice when joining some of these political parties and not just think of your own ways when you are not even a president of the party.
Guys lets not exhibt the Phd ( Pull her/him down) thinking that is common amongst we africans. The expulsion of 18 MPs is a indication that something is wrong with a party. Parties should not be run like personal companies. PF should hold a convetion to have an elected structure to deal with such issues
Am the One!
Thanks God the cult lead by Michael Chilufya “David Koresh” Sata never made it to rule Zambia. Such unwise decrees could have charecterised the rule of Zambia by the PF cult leader. PF is no longer a political party but a cult
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PF was solely formed for satanic Sata to be President. Without Sata, there is no PF. If you disagree with Sata no matter how reasonable you may be, you are out!!
Yes! We should thank God for the Rural votes who saw how UNWISE Sata is and made sure that he did not make it to State House.
Why can’t Sata reconcile with the MPS he is expelling? At least they were voted for by the people. Who voted for Sata to be president of pf? NO ONE!!!
Ba UNDERTAKER inga mwaikuta ubwali nomusalu ikaleni fye ziii.
Ba Chewe, thats the problem with you PF Fanatics. You dont know how to argue sensibly-you are just good at ejaculating bad language. Anyway I am not suprised – the language comes from Sata
Expel them as they feel they are popular when its sata who is popular not them.Look at Faustina Sinyangwa who thinks she is popular in matero and yet people voted for sata and PF.Let them meet us in the battle field and will teach them a lesson.
Ba undertaker u dont think properly.u think sata is mad by expelling the rebel mps.u are cheating urself.pf is a popular party.just wait and see after by election.mmd will not GRAB ANY SEAT.THINK PROPERLY B4 WRITING.BYE
#7 Nine Chale how old are you? 7 or 8? Your f*****g game numbers are so pathetic, childish and f**lish. It leaves me thinking you are somewhere between an id**t and an as*ho*e.
What’s more irritating is that half the time you don’t even get them correct, look at Supa six? What an imb*cile.
You ka UNDERTAKER! who are you to call for a convention? PF does not belong to your father neither does it belong to any member of your family. Do you have any idea how much is involved in organising a convention? Those mps deserve this because they asked for it. Go to bed or shut up if you ain’t gat no better things to do. pf for life….
When there’s is a principal disagreement in an establishment and it cannot be resolved, or resolving of which will compromise the premise of good conduct on which such an organisation is founded and grounded, the expectation is that members have to part company; painful though it may be.
When Lucifer the star of the morning lifted himself above limits and became rebelious, he was cast out of heaven, why? God is a God of order. He is love and loving, yet He condones not any sin.
So if these MPS have found it in their heart not to be in tune with what the party stands for, they need not be there. Impunity must start to disappear from Zambian politics
Rebel MPs You put yourself in this situation most of you know that you made it into Parliament because of Sata (PF) In Parliament you chose to vote with MMD. Most of you did not even campaign it was a given win,You were not PF members anyway, You were MMD wolves. I am Not PF or MMD and an independent observer.
#32,iwe chi noway. Why do you like such nasty language? Ifya bu yo fya bupuba. Leave us in peace no one can even miss you.You have very nasty language,this is not the first time you are doing this.Argent of the devil.
And then some talk of the money that would be save to help the poor. Leave the poor out of this. You have let them down on countless occassions when they depended on you for support. Many have developed their own skills to survive the hard times which have unfortunately become normal.
What projects can grz point to as an alternative of such expenditure. In fact they are just pretending. I bet they are relishing the chance to add to their numbers; either straight or rigging. Big pretenders!
There is a lot of irrational thinking in PF. Either you think like Sata( Kabova/kaponya ) or you are out!!!
Sata could have shown some level of ‘maturity’ by reconciling with the MPs.
It is a warning to those who do not know Sata and his friends.
You see lubinda is not spending his money and thus says not to worry about expenditre,would he say the same thing if part of the money being used for these by-elections was coming from his pocket.Imwe abana balefwa ku UTH because there’re no emergency generators,they even say only two babies died ,do you know how it feels to loose a child and yet they put it kwati tubwa twafwile.Feel for others.sata,given lubinda are all very selfish characters and i hope they never get to rule this lovely country zambia and plunder it like kachiluba with his suits and shoes shameless look at it! :-w
Ba Bwale,sabaileniko naimwe.You dont even understand what you are talking about.Mule bwatabwata fye!
Chewe awenaiwe wine ulesabaila.Iwe ninshi taulemona ati they will be a waste of money nama by-elections.Anyway freedom of speech isuma.Naiwewine ulubwatabwata ngabobene uleeba.it depends on how you look at things. :d/
Typical PF, they are always contardicting themselves. On one hand they advise the government to save costs by doing away with NCC and other measures and then they come up with some weird expalanations that there is enough money for massive by elections. Sata is simply has no principles.
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We need those by-election so that government can spend some money on chibuku and fitenge. Its been long since we drank free chibuku and we are more than looking for the same free chibuku.
Secondly our fitenge materials we got from the last parliamentary elections are worn out and new replacements from the politicians are needed.
The way you are passionate and heated up on costs from by-elections is the same way you needed to be about Rupiah Bamba spending our hard earned money on pampering grown up adults in the name of his children, by taking them for unneccesary holidyas.
We need royal and passionate members and not pretenders. Our government has a lot of money for flashing around. Pay for constitutional office holders and ministers and MPs is more costly than having a by-election and cadres are spoiled with campaign money. Zambia chalo chesu bonse and through by-elections we will also eat some money and the way we are suffering is the way some MPs should also suffer once they lose their seats. Go on PF expell those good for nothing MPs and we WILL see what will become of some of them. They are too pompous for nothing. Kuya bebele and zwaaaa. Viva PF. VIVA SATA UMWAUME WA CHALO. SATA GIVE US FRESH MPs TWAPAPATA.
Is sad to note that elections are the only things that really motivate GRZ to spend on the grass root citizens. Salt, sugar, ubunga. At least to last for a week or two, better than nothin at alllll.
SPOT ON Mr LIBINDA. ITS DISCIPLINE AND HIGH LEVEL OF STANDARDS LACKING IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. ZAMBIA NEEDS A HIGHLY DISCIPLINED LEADERS TO INSPIRE OTHER ORDINARY ZAMBIANS. THE WAY ZAMBIA IS NOW WITH THE CURRENT POORLY DISCIPLINED MMD WHO AS A MATTER OF CONSEQUENCE LACK STANDARDS, ONE DOES NOT EXPECT A MINIMUM SERVICE FROM ALL LEVELS OF AUTHORITIES. ONE SHOULD JUST ASK HIMSELF/HERSELF A SIMPLE QUESTION: WHY IS ZAMBIA SO LOW IN STANDARDS IN EVERYTHING ONE CAN THINK OF? DISCIPLINE IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS. THEREFORE, ELECTIONS MUST GO ON TO ENFORCE DISCIPLINE IN THESE BUNKRAPT LEADERS. PF, SHOW THEM STANDARDS.
By election is the way to go. Am back, hello everyone
#19. ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT. BUT PARTY POLICIES. THEY WENT AGAINST THE PARTY POLICY(IES). EVEN IN PARLIAMENT, A MOTION IS NORMALLY VOTED BY A 100% MAJORITY. SOME MEMBERS VOTE AGAINST THEM. BUT THE MINORITY FOLLOW THE MAJORITY. I PERSONALLY, ENDORSE THE BY-ELECTIONS. IT HAS A LONG TERM BENEFIT, AND THEREFORE, COST-EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU START HAVING DISCIPLINED LEADERS.
KCM waligomaukafye iwe. What unnecessary holiday are you alking about the poor man has taken his family ku holiday ku farm yakwe its like going kumushi.WHAT BIG EXPENDITURE IS THERE?THINK MAN bY-ELECTIONS WETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT ARE AN NECESSARY EXPENDITURE.
46 PETER
YES THAT IS MY POINT TOO.
YOU DO NOT EXPECT CHILDREN TO BEHAVE WHEN THE FATHER IS NOT BEHAVING. WE ARE WHAT WE INHERIT FROM OUR PARENTS. THE WORST FINACIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE POLITICAL PARTY WHERE MONEY MATTERS IS CONCERNED ARE MMD. JUST LOOK AT HOW BLOATED THE CABINET IS. THIS IS A CONTINOUS COST BEING BORNE BY THE SUFFERING ZAMBIANS. WHAT PF IS DOING IS JUST TO FOLLOW INTO THE PATH OF THE FATHERS, MMD, WHO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BOOTOMLESS PIT FULL OF MONEY. GO ON PF GO ON, MONEY JUST LIKE WE HAD FOR IMAGE BUILDERS WILL BE SOURCED AND READILY AVAILABLE FOR THE MASS BY-ELECTION. VIVA PF VIVA SATA WE ARE WITH YOU.
#20, GEOLOGIST, CANADA. THAT CAN NEVER BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH. BALINYA KUNTULO ABA BANTU. BATAMPA NOKUNWA KU DOWN-STREAM. BALITUMPA LEKENI BALIPILE AMA LOAN WHICH ARE PAID FOR THEM BY ORDINARY ZAMBIANS. VIVA PF.
I think peter has no love for mother zed,he’s like kcm a selfish good for nothing supporter of pf.What disappointments have you had with MMD,balikutana akafulo mune?You sound very bitter nabo bene ba PF will just enjoy the money as MPs beka won’t share with you at all. :d/
Undertaker Mate you have lost it completely. If MMD knows can win some parliamentary seats from the expelled PF MP rebels they can’t even talk about by elections being costy. Secondly these MPs are just selfish and big headed for nothing. These non governmental orgs are shall waste of time who are sent by the govt to speak rubbish. Zambia needs disciplined and well seasoned politicians who will put the interest of the people at the heart of their services.
No NGO has condemn the govt for 15% salary increments. People are dying due to lack of food,medcare, clean water,but the govt is very quiet and enjoying the national cake.It is payback time for rebels MPs.Chase them.
49 ZIMYA
TE KUGOMAIKA BOYI IYOO, CHISHINKA NDELANDA.
MMD HAS MONEY FOR EVERYTHING AS LONG AS IT IS BENEFITTING THEM. SO WHY CAN’T PF HAVE IT THEIR WAY.
CHOPPERS, IMAGE BUILDERS, ENDORSEMENT FUNDS FOR COSMOS AND NEVERS MUMBAS, RALLIES FOR EVERY DISTRICT, PARADING OF DEAD PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THE LIKE. IF WE MANAGED AS COUNTRY TO MEET THESE EXPENSES, WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT ABOUT BY-ELECTIONS COSTS. ZAMBIA IS VERY VERY RICH AND YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MMD BEHAVES IF YOU HAVE RUN OUT OF ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION OF MONEY. VIVA PF VIVA BA SATA. GOOD HOLIDAY RUPIAH BAMBA.
I do agree that pf should have proper rules where people can agree and not just a sata autocracy. That said, those mps just joined NCC for the money, their defence was even that it would cause irreparable injuries (i.e source of income depleted) that just shows they are not their for their people. Why did not say people in their constituencies may be affected? Let them go useless!
52 MULENGA.
I am not a politicians and as long as my brains keep fuctioning i will never be a politician. Therefore my brother i do not look forward to any political party to emancipate myself and family. As for MMD, they are not the right people to preach about costs and what is costly and not for zambia. Ba Mulenga respect and humbling oneself is what we need most in zambia at the moment and not those arrogant MPs who thought MMD will be there for them to destabilise PF. Baloba ilyauma. We are very very anxious for those by-electios like we are for a free bottle of castle or mosi. Ba Mulenga viva by-elections viva PF.
#23. DONT TAKE YOUR INDISCIPLINED NATURE TO AMERICA. DO YOU WHY IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO MANAGE A NULCEAR PLANT IN ZAMBIA? ITS DISCIPLINE. DUE TO LACK OF DISCIPLINE, MANY A PEOPLE CAN DIE. MOST OF THE ZAMBIANS IN DIASPORA DREAD INDISCIPLINED WHICH IS DEEP-ROOTED IN AUTHORITIES (OFFICES) IN ZAMBIA. THE HIGH LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE WHICH (MAYBE)YOU, AND (ABSOLUTELY ME) I HAVE ACQUIRED MAKES ZAMBIA APPEAR THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEHIND-ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU VISIT OFFICES IN ZAMBIA. KU VOTA BEBELE.
KCM waligomaukafye iwe. What unnecessary holiday are you alking about the poor man has taken his family ku holiday ku farm yakwe its like going kumushi.WHAT BIG EXPENDITURE IS THERE?THINK MAN bY-ELECTIONS WETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT ARE AN NECESSARY EXPENDITURE.
#25. YOU ARE AT IT, AGAIN. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ZAMBIANS ARE WITHHOLDING INVESTING IN ZAMBIA DUE TO POOR POLITICAL LEADERSHIP IN THE COUNTRY? YOU SEEM TO BE DETACHED FROM REALITY. MY BROTHER THEY ARE IN THEIR MILLIONS. DO YOU REALLY THINK ITS SATA WHO IS SUFFERING? I DONT NEED TO TELL YOU THE ANSWER TO THIS. BUT, LET ME SPOONFEED YOU-ITS THE ORDINARY (POVERTY-STRICKEN) ZAMBIAN. ONCE PEOPLE VOTE WISELY TO PUT CREDIBLE AND HARD-WORKING ADVOCATES IN LEADERSHIP AND THESE ZAMBIANS INVEST IN ZAMBIA THERE WILL BE A LOT OF JOBS CREATED.
39#YDON’T JUST COMMENT WITHOUT THINKING IS SATA OR LUBINDA IN GOV WHAT HAVE THEY DONE CONCERNING THE DEATH’S PLEASE LET US REASON WHEN COMMENTIN AND HATING PEOPLE WITHOUT CAUSE YOU WILL ATTRACT UNKNOWN CURSE’S,FIND TIME AND READY YOUR BIBLE CAREFULL.MAY GOD HELP YOU IN THINKING.AMEN [-([-([-([-([-([-(
Peter kuvota bebele nabanani how’re you going to vote uli kuno iwe?People like you will end up the homes for old people.Invest back home muleyako naku zambia mwamona how your friends have progressed iam sure iwe peter tawatala yako ku zambia apowaishila.judging from the way you’re talking you seem really detached from reality visit home.zambians are very serious with investing back home if you haven’t nauchelwa boyi,wake up.Ifintu nipa Zed mwilatemwafye tu sausage,naku ze ekoyaba bayama fyonse ifyaba kuno ekofili kumwesu.visit home don’t just critisize,kabili imwe nimwe mufwile ukutwala iyo discipline musambilile kuno so that you make changes,don’t be armchair critics only fyakale!
hi bane go and sleep
Tembo,chachine mwandi kalale,but ifwe tuchilipo naba kcm na peter uulefwaya akafulo kuli sata.
The first one to worry about costs should have been RB. He took his clan for a holiday at taxpayers expense.
Guys mwebaba mu diaspora let’s do something for mother Zambia than depend on MMD and people like Michael Sata. He is just foul mouthed and has no principles despite being my uncle. We need to go back to Zambia and change the working culture, imprison thieving leaders like Chiluba, Sata ..rememeber the K2bn which he shared with MMD cronies and not be lectured by umu coloured Lubinda…Kalala kowela
#58 MULENGA. DO I EVEN NEED IT. I AM VERY OK WHAT AM DOING RIGHT NOW AND IN FUTURE. EVEN IF I WAS OFFERED A POSITION, I TELL YOU I HAVE PRINCIPLES AGAINST CORRUPTNESS, BRIBERY, FUND-MISUSE, LYING AND YOU NAME IT. I HAVE GOT A LOT TO LOSE IN SERVING WITH CORRUPT CHAPS. I NEED MY NAME CLEAN AT ALL TIMES.
Kanshi mwebantu this thing about this RB holiday the man has not gone to the Bahamas anayenda kumunzi,what’s wrong with that,give poor fatso a break mulekeni akalye nyemba kumunzi.Timbalife ngatawachita invest ku zambia amba nombaline wichelwa,people in zambia are very serious,pa zambia is very nice and investment is good depending on what your line of investment is.Do your homework and you won’t go wrong any part of zambia nangu kumushi kobe its okay.
Viva PF, Viva Lubinda, Viva Sata
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Awe peter i hope you mean what you say nomba offer advice not criticising only nobody will learn anything from you if all you do with all you do is finger pointing instead of ukupela constructive criticism.
This Lubinda is not even A zAMBIAN. HE is HALF MUNTU AND HALF MWENYE. Zambia needs every penny to develop.
What is the problem with this story? The MPs have a boss. That is the party leader. They are supposed to take orders from their party boss much like the boss of a company. If they just refuse and start to work for the competition then they will be fired. Any child can understand pliz
#71 I keep telling you it is “INTELLIGENTSIA” not “INTELLIGENTIA” chopet. And stop your racist s**t
PF nonsense how on earth can more elctions be helpful to our already struggling economy.
#70 chalwe. I mean what I say. In fact, I am a very practical person. I am not here in the land of opportunity for nothing. I am not gonna be telling you what am doing kuno na ku nganda. You see this is the goodness of the blog-its a leveller and one can have a blog name. It dosn’t tell anyone about one’s self. And the fact that its a leveller I wouldn’t be such an i d i o t to assume that ba chalwe is not doing ifintu ku zambia nangu kuno. Some people do that. Because if they are not doing anything, they comfort themselves by convincing themselves that even others are not doing anything. ndaya kumushi every so often and am talking from what i observe…
…ba chalwe tukeshibana limbi nga mwaisa mukufwaila ko umwipwa wenu incito ulya mucita sponsor ku zambia pa school of accountancy, paka ntemba kesu.
…good nite I am busy. I want to do some research, brother/sister.
Intelligentia-how i can’t stand racists like you bushe did Lubinda ask to be what he is and what’s wrong with him he ‘s zambian like you and me maybe even more zambian how do you know maybe you’re half congolese iwe.Stop this rubbish talk real issues not ififi racist remarks takukanila
#34. FUTURISTIC
I agree with you totally! When Lucifer had rebelled against GOD, there was WAR in heaven, Michael and his Angels fought against the Dragon, and then Lucifer was cast out of heaven. GOD had set simple rules which Lucifer could not follow and influenced a third of Angels.
So, before these rebel MPs contaminate some of the PF MPs, they have to be thrown out of the party and face whatever comes their way. He who treads softly, goes very far, but these MPs elevated themselves so high that they thought people who put them in parliament were useless. This is a clear signal to would be MPs that no servant is above his MASTER(voters).
PF if you re serious about merging now prove it by forming an electral pact with UPND or stop wasting time. Per adventure MMD might snatch some of those seats, be aware.
This should also act as a test to these senseless talkers in MMD who think that they are very popular, but a bunch of ignorant, and boasting Cabinet. Landslide defeat of MMD will make them to start panicking as they have a short period to prove themselves with alot of people suffering. They think people should listern to them, rather than the other way around.
It is now or NEVER for MMD to prove their full potential, or it will be goodbye to this movement of mass distraction (MMD). I am at pains to grasp why people should be in support of MMD, when they have insulted the people of Zambia by reducing most of them to a level of a chicken, begging for handouts.
#81 Ala bwafya muntu wesu Geologist.
kabili these greedy rebel mps bakwa sata bakalapila ,pantu in a few months time they will be back to square one poor like us.Notuma loan bapokele,alot of them just used the money for womanising and getting infected with HIV,mwanko amifulula wiso satanic verses kabili you know him.put to good use the money you got from NCC.pantu twalalingana nombaline.
If we are not careful as Zambians, MMD will sell the country as most chaps seem to have a MENTAL disease. I do not understand how they feel all the time praising other Govts for giving them donations & then stand with shameless faces! And this what rebel MPs are also doing to get money at the expense of the suffering people.This kind of life has to be removed, starting with Govt leaders, & then the people of Zambia. No one is going to develop Zambia, but only Zambians can do that, and this is what these MMD chaps seem to be missing. I am glad that it has started downing on people to remove Govt, hence their resistance in having bye-election, because deep down they stare in the face of defeat
I only wish people could just boycot these by-elections because even the new Mps will be the same,so for once if only people can say awe we’ll wait until the next general elections maybe would be Mps can be serious with their agendas not nomba everybody looks out for what hte country/govt. will do for them not what they as mps will do for mother zambia and the electorate.kalilo bacause you do realise that most of them ninshi balisapula notuma butchery twaliwa ,tonse notuntemba tonse ninshi twalifukama.when campaigning tepabufi bwekabweka.ala its sad and the electorate poor women a chitenge and chibuku for bakabova is enough to make them vote what a shame. [-(
How can one be an idle member of anorganiztion without even representing it and refusing to follow that organization’s regulations then refuses to be expelled?
Who does political an social psychology pa zed?Plz help these men by putting them on total psychotherapy.
Let them join MMD and refuse it’s constitution then see if they are going to survive
When people are copmlaining about RB going on holiday it is born out of concern. The logistics involved in this holiday is more than what some of you are thinking as being a cheap holiday. These are few things that you need to know what are involved in such a holiday,
1: Advance party : the intelligent agents go out one to two weeks before the president and his entourage go to gather intelligence,
2: Defence & security wings establish three weeks guarding on perimeter and vulnerable positions before the coming of RB. 3:payments, food, transport, Fuel, Communication logistics
The total is more than 5 billions of kwacha. So this is not a cheap holiday at all. Expel rebel MPs is good.
What Zambia needs now is a new party with new blood with a charismatic young leader. This party should be representative of the different ethnic groups of the country and should espouse REALISTIC policies. All of the current leaders we have are somewhat discredited. Sata and Banda are basically just UNIP old guards. Hichilema has a problem about the tribal leaning of his party. So what we need now is a new party made up of people who were born in the sixties and early seventies to take the country forward. Another victory for MMD would be retrogressive but a PF win would not be much better either.
#33 it wl cost less money for PF to hold a convention than for the nation to have massive by-elections. Let us not waste state resources
Undertaker, if one of these PF rebel MPs is your relative just accept the fact that by-elections are on the way so what may. Even this time they are still showing being big headed. The waste of state resources you are talking about has been done by this unpopular govt through salary increments for politicians. All Zambia needs is well level headed politicians. These rebel MPs thought MMD & govt machinary will save them. They are wrong still living in the fantasy world of political prostitution.
Bad move ba PF…I dont think they will recapture all these seats!!!!
pls do not waste our time just chase them. Maule ya politics. They want to eat with both hands. Hope the court will rule in favour of pf. let the mps face their constituencies without sata. They are gone. It is over.
:d this is the way to go about it to have action and action.
Those that want to :(( should stay, Zed has money to go for elections.LPM went round Zed and all concerned official where paid allowances too that was a funeral which was very very expensive.They did not do it for mahala.
So business is business, SATAMANIA ^:)^
Viva H H man who has disciplined Members of parliament in his party
Howcome Sata can lose three elections and still be considered a presidential contender? In America, John Mccain will never again run for president it should be the same in Zambia. It would mean power hungry thugs like Sata would have one strike and then be out for good.
#91 Enigma, it is bad to have four well disciplined MPs than 20 selfish MPs. It is likely more seats will be taken by PF than MMD for sure. Lusaka, Luapula and CB Pf will return all the seats. It is easy for you to think MMD will get maybe 4 but not at all. Why are these MPs refusing to leave PF? They know it is suicidal to make such a move. Where is Chimumbwa?
Hav the so -called rebel PF MPs gone against the party ( PF) directive or Sata’s.
Abena MACHUNGWA are about to become lofers .Yalikosa pa street and you can sense their desperation.geee
#97. You hav a typical Phd (Pull her/him down) mind -set of an African.
Bamambala twa le kampena bena bali busy bale kampenununa.
Why protecting the indisciplined MPs. You even call them “Rebel MPs” and you want to say spare them. Are you not making them big headed?
#91 ENIGMA
I can’t agree more with my friend PAFWENAMWINE PAUJENI(#95). We wont have sleepless nights because we might loose some seats, thats democracy as long as polls are conducted in transparent manner. ZWANA! BAMAMBALA.
It is always wonderful to first listen and then take action if need be.Eg.A PRETTY GIRL WENT TO CHURCH, TO MAKE A CONFESSION TO A PASTOR. THE PASTOR ASKED HER WHAT THE MATTER IS. SHE THEN SAID MY BOYFRIEND DID SOMETHING BAD TO ME. THE PASTOR NOW KISSED HER AND SAID DID HE DO THIS TO U? SHE SAID NO. THE PASTOR HUGGED HER AND SAID DID HE DO THIS TO U? SHE SAID NO. THE PASTOR NOW PULLED OFF HER CLOTH AND SAID DID HE DO THIS TO U? SHE SAID NO. THE PASTOR NOW MADE LOVE TO HER AND SAID DID HE DO THIS TO U? SHE SAID NO. THEN THE PASTOR SAID “WHAT IS THE THING HE DID THAT IS MAKING U TO BE CRYING”? THEN THE GIRL SAID “HE GAVE ME HIV.” THE PASTOR THEN FAINTED
# 102 :d:d:d:d:d
Siumvela iwe… :d:d:d:d
Ati a busa ana fenta…:d:d:d
Its true, don’t worry. Let SATA fire them. It will help him remember exactly what MMD is popular. He must remember VJ has now been fulltime reinstated. Watch the space, these SATAs will create a problem 4 themselves. Maybe half will end up in MMD’s hands. Aaahh!
#36 you are a just a piece of sh!t. I don’t argue with pieces of crap like you. If you are not bright enough to blog like me, why not just shut your stinking mouth? Leave this blog, do something useful, lick your small d!ck or count the hairs on your testicles. What are you doing in the Americas, you id**t? Humble yourself and go back to your farm located in that primitive village as dark as the space between your balls and your BUT*HOLE. You B**ch*ss m*f***r.
Its so bad once again that we are going to have uncalled 4 bye-elections because of few selfish people.Where is VJ to help MMD again?
:((DEMOCRACY IS EXPENSIVE:)>-:)>-:-?:d:d:d
The question we should all be asking is MP are they loyal to the parties or the peoples decision in thier respective areas?If it is to the party then am scared.Why because its not the party that votes that person into office but we the people.Expensive that should be expected at any given time.For now we vote again :d/
EXPEL THEM !!!
Let SATA have his ka by-election. He is just going to lose the seats and going to cry ati “vote rigging”.
That old man amazes me. He is very docile and senile.
IT IS RAIN SEASON. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE DROP OFF SATA AT HIS FARM. I AM WILLING TO PAY FOR GAS. HE IS VERY ANNOYING ~X(
DIGNITY IS NEEDED IN ZAMBIAN POLITICS AND EXPELLING THOSE ROGUE MPs WOULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT. EXPEL THOSE PROSTITUTES, SATA. THEY WEREN’T REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE, BUT THEIR POCKET AND PURSES.
UNDERTAKER are u afraid of real life
Do away with the task force and NCC, with or without money bye elections are necessary to instill discipline in any party as regards to rebel PF MP’s. Viva PF, Viva HON SATA, rebel MP’s Kuya bebele, no more money in your pockets
56, I agree with you, 52. Mulenga has someting stuck up somewhere!!
There is no democracy in PF. Hold a convention and elect leaders who will decide what should happen to the MPs. You can’t have one dictator messing the whole country. He abuses people and wants the country to pay for him to abuse other people. Hon. speaker don’t declare those seats vacant until parliament is dissolved. We need to stop dictatorship NOW or this SATA will mess the country up. PF has never had a convention, so who made SATA president and who recognises him? Certainly not parliament.
well said #65. People like STA are just useless time wasters.
In the unlikely event that the MPs are expelled, govt should insist that PF or SATA pays for the by-elections or else let PF hold its convention whihc will decide what happens to the MPs. The MPs are very right and the dictator SAT is wrong.
Leadership is expensive and those who do not believe in expelling rebell MP’S should tell the nation what should be done to rebellious mp’s.Zambians should not easily forget neither should we continue to have mediocre mp’s who have no principles.MMD can’t even say its expenssive they have contributed to MP’S missbehaving and are on record as they assured the nation at one time that they were ready to adopt expelled mp’s.The porched Heritage mp’s,FDD,UPND and many more.If you you think displine is EXPENSSIVE, try INDISPLINE.PF lead the way by taching mp’s that they lead to respect party rules.
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I liked the picuture and l-) by Mr X. Chuungu thepicturemonger. blogspot. com/ 2008/ 12/ xavier- chungu- in- court- after- 4- years- at. html
I just thought this would be grate for you all to see it for yourself if you so wish.
I liked the picture and l-) by Mr X. Chuungu thepicturemonger. blogspot. com/ 2008/ 12/ xavier- chungu- in- court- after- 4- years- at. html
I just thought this would be grate for you all to see it for yourself if you so wish.
“Mr. Lubinda said the Patriotic Front has shown how much committed it is to solving matters arising within the party and other parties should do the same instead of cruising unnecessarily.”
Well put Mr Given Lubinda. Let us also see that support we have seen over these would-be expulsions from your cadres when the UPND will be expelling indiscplined members from it.
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84. Geologist, Canada; since you claim to be SDA what time does the Sabbath start in that place you stay in in Canada?
I left your some querries in the other thread, I demand your response to them and I am waiting. :-w
110. Free-Market-Capitlst, do points.
Also, let him expell those so-called Rebel PF MPs.
They have been delaying the adoption of the age-limit on a Presidential Candidate to apsire for Zambian Presidency on the NCC. President RB Banda needs to effect his campaign promises of making sure that the Undereducate goes out of Zambian politics.
We need NCC to expeditiously finish this Constitution amendment thing before 2011 elections. Also, let NCC make sure MPs’ terms in Parliament are 2 and nothing more. NCC must recommend that their election must only be nullified if the electorate prove that such is needed!
no way#105 iyo watukana nomba ubwafya fyonse ifyo waeba umunobe naiwe wine ifyo wakwata shamuna bane! shame.Constructive critiscism not ifi ifyabusushi iwe.
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