Thursday, March 28, 2024

Sata Exposed – Mumbi

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PF Leader Michael Sata (left)

Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata has been exposed as being part of a committee of cabinet ministers that recommended that the demand for the Barotseland Agreement of 1964 was stale and no longer legal.

According to PF former Secretary General Edward Mumbi, the expose’ indicates that Mr. Sata is one of the eight cabinet ministers that were not agreeable to the restoration of the Barotseland Agreement.

Mr. Mumbi said in 1992, former President Dr Frederick Chiluba appointed a committee of eight cabinet Ministers including Mr Sata to discuss the Barotseland Agreement in 1992 who brought a report disfavouring the Barotse Agreement.

Mr. Mumbi, however, said the committee to which Mr. Sata was a part of misdirected Dr. Chiluba by recommending that the Agreement has been overtaken by events and needed no attention.

The former PF Secretary General produced two letters to Journalists in Lusaka yesterday as proof that contain the committee’s position, stating grounds why government could not negotiate the Agreement.

Mr. Mumbi noted that Mr. Sata is therefore not the right person to talk about the Agreement because the PF leader was part and parcel of the committee that killed the Agreement.

He said the PF leader should instead apologize to the Litunga and the people of Western Province in general for misleading Dr. Chiluba over the document.

And Mr. Mumbi has challenged Mr. Sata not to hoodwink the people of Western Province because he threatened to de-recognize the Litunga when he was Health Minister in 1996.

Mr. Mumbi told Journalists at a media briefing in Lusaka yesterday that Mr. Sata wrote a letter to then President Frederick Chiluba to have the Litunga’s Chieftainship recognition dropped.

Mr. Sata could not immediately be reached for comment as his mobile phone was off by press time.

But PF Spokesperson Given Lubinda told ZNBC that he could only comment on matters that have occurred after the birth of the party and not before.

[ ZNBC ]

Editors note: This article was wrongly published twice.We  apologize for any inconvenience caused.

50 COMMENTS

  1. Mumbi is being used by MMD to bring down Sata. That will never work out. Zambians are tired of MMD and we wont make MMD break UNIP record of being in power for a long time. We need a new stratergy to change Zambia. Many people are suffering and we cannot allow people like Mumbi to divert the agenda for the Zambian people.

  2. #202 but vi ba bemba boyi ni vobili maningi mu Zambia. i will marry a bemba maybe in future things will work out for my family…..i thought bemba was only spoken in the copperbelt kansi na ku luapula, ku northern, some part of central and mu lusaka vangena futi, hehe bembas!!!anyway viva chewa we are the second most spoken language after bemba….chi lozi its only in mongu!!

  3. Sata’s dangerous opportunism and flip flopping nature has a stiff battle at hand in many fronts. With his anti Zambian Barotseland terrorists he may have to fight coarsely Zambians, achieves, statutory records, public institutions of interest and media databases to sanitize his xenophobia for the people of Western province he has lived hating.

  4. The so-called “senior citizen” resurrects from his grave because this so-called article is anti- Sata. So-called “senior citizen” what is your comment on the just ended MMD elections in Eastern province graced by RB?.

  5. I thought this garbage of an article was put on here even yesterday. No amount of malicious propaganda will change the direction of the wind of change.

    Even small brains like that of Mushota can tell you that ba MMD

  6. Sata forked tongue exposed

    In the Post newspaper dated January 22, 1996, Mr Sata, who was Minister of Health, said the MMD had written to Dr Chiluba asking him to drop recognition of the Litunga, Chief Chitimukulu and Paramount Chief Mpezeni on grounds that Dr Kaunda had bribed them to confuse their subjects.

    HE HAS WORK TO EXPLAIN HIS FLIP FLOPPINGS

  7. Sata’s committee slowed down government’s attention to the BA and further killed it with another letter dated August 18, 1993. Sata said, “It is Government’s position that we cannot negotiate this agreement on the following grounds: Our further inquiries show that no judicial process commenced by the royal establishment or any other party aggrieved by the proposed amendments in reasonable time. It is our position that the demand is stale, as it has been overtaken by events and is no longer legal,” the letter reads in part.

  8. The flip flopper is being challenged to explain to Zambians why he asked then President Chiluba to drop the recognition of the Litunga in 1996.

  9. mumbi nimwama propaganda mudala uyu zoona.iwe #7 be serious naiwe you can do better musasamba!
    # yako yofipa monga ni malasha ukayafake mu jiki!

  10. So what? The decision of the Government did not depend on one person or the eight people. The decision depended upon the entire MMD led Government.

    Mumbi should tell the public what his personal thing is with Mr Sata. He should not bring the public into private personal issues.

  11. Lusaka Times (LT) ..

    LT you are mistaken to think reapeating the same dull story will change the mind of Zambians against MMD.

    No force of propaganda against Sata will bring PF and Sata down. Zambians want change and for sure change is coming.

    Let us go PF ..let us go Sata. Sata the man who can bring sanity to Zambia.

  12. Which leader in the world has never changed position on an issue? If Mumbi, ZNBC, Times of Zambia, Daily Mail are to sound credible must bring out the names of all eight ministers tasked to deal with the BA. Sata gave his opinion, FTJ made the decision. No where in the letters does it say Sata said this or that. It was a recommendation of the eight. We all don’t know who said what. Only Senior Citizen, Veteran is dreaming of who said what.

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  14. I’m not MMD but you guys if you vote SATA into state house, you’ll regret vor the rest of your lives and possibly your childrens’. surely can’t you see that the man’s not presidential material? there must be something really wrong with you. trust me!

  15. We look forward to a day PF kaponyas will have the initiative of coming up with their own news content platform. It will be interesting learning what their threads will carry and which sane patriot will ever blog there.LT’s creative, innovation, and pioneering leadership delivering a connected Zambia around the Globe in real time is just phenomenon and second to none in and outside Zambia for the Zambian community. This is why you see empty head PF kaponyas here in their droves 24/7 without invitation but insults because LT is Zambia’s only all inclusive one stop content platform. It is their only source and unavoidable household news portal. PF kaponyas just enjoy the free news here while you continue with your protruding ignorance insulting creative Zambians behind LT.

  16. # 16,

    Sata will die with his wishful dream of landing power at all cost. No Zambian or institution will commit treason against his country with a risky betrayal of risking a unitary state with a pro secessionist thug that skilled in flip flopping around his watch with a folked tongue of indignation.He will never pass any national election under the Zambian watch. If anything, in event that death passes him and life holds, in his own public vow Sata is heading to Taipei in Taiwan on a self imposed asylum after taking a 5th time ballot rejection this time in a landslide RB is picking his mandate on. His asylum will be a run away move from those South African apartheid sponsors wastefully shredding their money on him in vanity.

  17. This has really surprised me who gave permission Mr Mumbi,to make known to the public what was being discussed in the cabinet meeting then,I am sure for this information not have been given out to the public at that time,it meant it was not for public consumption therefore it was classified information unless it has been disclassified now.

  18. This has really surprised me who gave permission Mr Mumbi,to make known to the public what was being discussed in the cabinet meeting then,I am sure for this information not have been given out to the public at that time,it meant it was not for public consumption therefore it was classified information unless it has been declassified now.

  19. Sata is ruling come this year 2011. It will not help MMD bootlickers whatever you say. Time for change has come.

    Its sata who can bring sanity to Zambia. Nowander the MMD thugs are spending sleepless nights over Sata popularity in Zambia. Now they have recognised that Sata was president over the past three presidents coz he was the one making resolutions in cabinet….hehe keke ..these MMD thieves are too dull for sure.

    Who can buy their dull stupi.dy stories about the mighty Sata?

    Its go go Sata…all Zambians like and love u …you have my vote and those of my 12 dependents.

  20. Ba LT something is very wrong in your team this year. So far you have repeated 4 stories in last 3 weeks. Do your donors demand how many stories you should be spraying on us?

  21. 2-4, you posted your tribal nonsense even here, No chewa can say that rubbish, why cant you openly promote your twisted tribe…….

  22. Senior Citizen, if Sata is not a force that shakes you MMD guys why do you bother so much to bring him down. If MMD is so strong and PF is not a force why dont you forget about what Sata does or says? The more you talk about Sata, the more you show your fear. Kuya bebele boyi. Talk all you like kuya bebele. There are more than 32 political parties in Zambia but it seems Sata has given you a very big headache. Remember my vote is secret and trust me, your vote senior citizen wont count. On election day you will be packing your katundu back to Zambia. I hope RB receives you at the airport. By the way does he know you? i wonder.

  23. Mr Sata is going nowhere anytime soon. He was born opposition and will remain so even in the afterlife, if you are unfortunate enough to find him there.

  24. # 21 thumbs up.ba zed bola down.
    so mumbi is now GoRoundZed spokesman.let them tel us who else is on that list.GoRoundZed shud act appropriatly instead of the slow “tactical” approach they r handling this issue.BLIEVE u me BA64 is now becoming 2011 election talk.let them talk on all other developomental issues as well.by time it wil b voting-time less debates on other issues wud have been conductd.let’s always keep our eyes and judgements open for 2011 & let’s NOT easily forget ALL issues that wil guide us where 2 put that 1 precious vote

  25. The Surgeon General Warns: Listening to MMD propaganda from the ZNBC, Zambia Daily Mail, Times of Zambia and ZANIS can be dangerous. You may not see reality afterwards.

  26. Senior Citizen is now left with one hope; SATA s heart attack. Notwithstanding his floral english, senior citizen is primitive, petty and DULL.

  27. #25Chiiiiti Kooolwe
    i am chewa and very proud do not take it away from me.
    and osafakamo innocent tribes in this!!!
    thats my opinion pliz respect it!!!

  28. Senior citizen who tells you heart attack is the only condition that takes life . Who knew ftj would out live lpm. Your are not creator of life. You and I may die even today. Man, you not a gift to mankind but a miopic self centered sadistic fellow

  29. We debated this issue and honestly do not see any reason to have brought this subject up. Which party was in power during that time, MMD? From which party did the Republican President come from during the same time, MMD? Who gave instructions to the other Eight Ministers MMD Members at that time to deal with this issue, MMD President.
    What do you call an Animal that eats there own Vomit, A DOG? From this I can deduce that MMD members are DOGS. There MAD DOGS.

  30. No matter what Mumbi says we will not dump Sata. People must read between the lines that this Mumbi is not an advocate of peace. When the guy was in PF why didnt he say all these things he is vomiting ow??? What will stop him from attacking his sponsors when he is kicked out? A wise man will wonder how many friends he has lost going by being a Judas Escariot in this mordern world. Honestly Mumbi is shooting himself in the foot. What he do for a living anyway??

  31. Ha Ha Hate the Man or Love him. The truth is Sata the last ten or so years has been speaking for all of us, including the poor , marginalised in society whilst most Zambians ndwiiiiiii ball watching.

    Mr. Sata has done this even with the risk of state machinary being abused by being unleashed on him. Hate the Man or love him, the MMD busy attacking him because he is their biggest threat to their continous illegal-hold on to POWER.

    As # 36 has said above, no matter what Mumbi says, we shall still kick MMD out of power through the PACT.

    Hate the man or love him, Mr. Sata offers in his unique way checks and balances to the corrupt MMD regime or Junta.

  32. #36 – You are entitled to your choice. This is what democracy is all about. Some vote on tribal lines, others on nepotistic lines whilst you vote on ‘merit’ :-). Never-the-less, always remember that it is not you who the MMD is targeting. They know you have already made up your mind so you are useless to them. It is those who can be reasoned with that they are targeting.

    Even in the USA, Obama never targeted the Arian Brothers or the Texas Red Necks. He targeted areas where people were ready to listen and this is how he won.

    MMD know their enemy and they know how to deal with him and his supporters. Their strategy is to work on the areas that will give them the vote they need to win and this does not mean trying to convince you to vote for them. To them, you are already ruined.

  33. #37 – If MMD is scared of Sata, then this is bad for you because they already know their enemy and will work to beat him. In 1991, KK did not think MMD would win and he lost. In 2006, Sata was a non contender and he came 2nd. The enemy you know is easier to beat than the one you dont know!

  34. AND I THOUGHT CABINET MEETINGS WHERE HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL..WIKILEAKS HAS FINALLY COME TO ZAMBIA!PETTY POLITICS OF TRIBALISM AND FILTH SMEARING!CAN SOME SUE THAT MUMBI FORMER ZAMTEL DRIVER!!!!!

  35. Is government or police or DEC or whoever is responsible going to investigate how Mr. Mumbi got hold of secret internal government communication?

  36. #40 Anthony Lloyd – PhD Anthropology – Oxford UK says:
    In 2006 Sata was the biggest contender, whats your problem? Don’t you remember Levy’s campaigns and inaugural speech? At first I was thinking you were objective, kanshi not. You can do better man!

  37. #40 Anthony Lloyd – PhD Anthropology – Oxford UK says:
    In 2006 Sata was the biggest contender, whats your problem? Don’t you remember Levy’s campaigns and inaugural speech? At first I was thinking you were objective, kanshi you are not. You can do better man!

  38. A politician can never be trusted. Try to google NICOLLO MACHAVELLI thesis. Thus Never kill yourself politicians

  39. Rubish ZNBC. All the time is Sata kanshi no bwali ni Sata. If Shikapwasha’s toilet is blocked it is Sata.If you want to appear on TVZ just come up with a big lie against SATA

  40. Satamania.com alias Lusakatimes.com, is daily spewing Sata this, Sata that, Sata here, Sata there shamelessly exposing biased gutter, unprincipled, journalism.

    Their stories are always deliberately incompletely to generate and promote negative speculation in their readership.

    Please have some semblance of professionalism. This site is read by people from all over the world and such shoddy journalism only serves to degrade you and insults your intelligence.

    LWENU

  41. MMD, scared of their own shadows now. Using all weapons at their disposal. MMD, bye bye in 2011. Sorry, we cannot buy this stupid story from Mumbi. Was Mumbi part of the cabinet then? How come Mumbi is in the forefront of Cabinet issues and Shikashiwa is very happy with it.
    Mediocre leadership is dangerous.

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