CHIEF Government spokesperson Ronnie Shikapwasha has accused the Post Newspaper of using a former Ngambela of the Barosteland, Maxwell Mututwa of Mongu to peddle a political agenda aimed at discrediting President Rupiah Banda’s hard work.
Lieutenant General Shikapwasha said Mr Banda was mourning the deaths of two youths killed during a riot sparked by debates on the Barosteland Agreement of 1964 and that it was wrong for Mr Mututwa to charge that the president was unapologetic over the shootings and killings in Mongu.
Reacting to Mr Mututwa, 92, who was quoted in yesterday’s Post as having said President Banda should leave his post because he was unapologetic over the Mongu shootings, Gen Shikapwasha said Mr Banda was a leader for all Zambians.
He said the Post and Mr Mututwa were fighting a political war against President Banda and the Government reflected through the continued negative writing on happenings in Western Province.
Gen Shikapwasha said the Post was closely working with Mr Mututwa because the two had set an agenda to soil the image of Mr Banda’s hard working Government.
“President Banda is remorseful and compassionate over the loss of the two lives in Mongu.
“He is currently mourning with the bereaved family and the Post Newspaper with Mr Mututwa are just on a political agenda to discredit the good name of President Banda,” he said.
He said the president was focused on ensuring peace and harmony continued to prevail in all parts of the country to foster development in Zambia.
In January this year, Mr Mututwa with several Mongu residents were arrested and charged with treason over the Barotseland Agreement fracas which left two Mongu youths dead.
He was later discharged through a nolle prosequi.
[Times of Zambia]
iwe shikapuba rb is morning but has he appologised? dullness in the minister.
Pf must go. We in upnd are winning. Why are u using the lo.zi people. The veep told the truth but ure stiff necked lack of understanding is making the pf mad. Veep said it was fine to use bullets because those demonstraters were pf members ferried from mpika and kasama. Viva upnd vivaupnd
We need things to be discussed in their context. What has hard work or good name has to do with killing. Stick to the point Ba Rev Ronnie. Your govt fails to handle simple matters that is all this is about. Yes post will distroy you if you keep answering without substance.
The Post was not there when the old man was arrested neither where they there when youths were killed or maimed. So what is ronnie hallucinating about now?!
@ #6 – The Post can never destroy GRZ. However…. it can encourage homosexuality, snake-worshiping, insulting HIV positive people, promoting riots etc……
Tell lupiya to keep his crocodile tears to himself and stop mocking the bereaved families. Kunda refused to apologise in parliament and justified police brutality. Were you sleeping, as usual, in parliament sir?!
Mmembe really has no respect for the elderly.He ll use any means and anyone to achieve his selfish interests.
#2 you are pathetic!
#2 stick to the point. There were killings in Western Province and that was wrong and that needs to be condemned. PF or no PF , the govt. should not have used live bullets. Are you saying PF should be gunned down? Sic!!!. In that case,since you support UPND, and with all the luck on your side, you shall exterminate all MMD,PF, etc and remain alone. What a way of resolving conflicts.
The homosexuals in the Post and PF are now learning their lessons. And they will learn hard. The *****s alienated UPND thinking they can win on their on. Like somebody above has said, UPND members in this year’s election will vote to injure. Let us see if PF can beat this formula.
I will just add to this comment that Lozis vote with their brains. And if anyone has not seen through the machinations of the Post and PF to wrestle power (at any cost) from the responsible govt of RB, be rest assured that he or she is not Lozi.
If someone needs an apology,then one talks on behalf of somebody that he/she has apologised to the Lozi people,to me its not making sense.let that person apologise so that people can hear that he /she has apologised and it will be up to those people to forgivr him or no.So let RB apologise as he has been advised and Shikapwasha dont speak on behalf of your friend.
# 2!! U are immature too!!! The party you support is a party for immature people.Which persons who are well informed do you think can support such a party wuth so many immature people?
Currently, Hichilema is not any different from the likes of Chanda Chimba and Lifwekelo and all those lumpens working as Rupiah’s vuvuvelas. He thinks we don’t know the scheme; there are orders that the moment he diverts from the agreed position, which is insulting Mr Sata, he will not receive any coverage from the state media. Even on the constitution bill, the MMD is delaying to bring it up for debate in Parliament because they are currently in negotiation for UPND support to meet the two-thirds majority
#10 Puchukwe. You must be the ***** yourself because you can not understand simple language with your under 5. The homo thing is long gone as it has been cleared. You claim to be learned but you can’t understand the simple terms Sata used in the so called homo interview. Grow up and come out of the Cancun. The battle is between Sata and Rb. you thought your under 5 could ride on the wellbeing of PF? Forget just continue with your spoiler ideas and remain in opposition for the rest of your lives. PF is here to stay and will for sure rule Zambia one day.
Shikapwasha… he is not worthy of a response. He is an adult child, forgive him.
Imagine a big old man with the brain of a 5 year old. I pity his family.
I rarely agree with Shikapwasha but apa peve alasa.The PF magazine is using a lot of people including disgruntled Kaunda’s sons to support rogues & homos.
sata will never be president
So; what the hell do you want us to do? It’s just true that mwali faula by using live bullets on your own people. Wrong is wrong!!! Nakapwasha, stop behaving like Naulapwa …marabish.
Fi UPND; can you for once concentrate on be an opposition to the ruling part and NOT an opposition to the strongest opposition party???? You blind supporters just drem PF … grow up ba makaka!
Viva PF!
So; what the hell do you want us to do? It’s just true that mwali faula by using live bullets on your own people. Wrong is wrong!!! Nakapwasha, stop behaving like Naulapwa …marabish.
Fi UPND; can you for once concentrate on being an opposition to the ruling part and NOT an opposition to the strongest opposition party???? You blind supporters just drem PF … grow up ba Ntwenokane!
Viva PF!
Looks like the Post have now found another ‘news’ source after George Mpombo. Looking forward to the day they become a real newspaper again.
There is need to save the old man from exploitation by the filthy mind of mmembe, the man has no regard for such an elderly citizen just to achieve his agenda. To mmembe the end justifies the means.
If at his age the old man has not acquired sufficient wisdom to avoid exploitation I suggest that he is locked up again so that he proves his point in court and not through the self appointed Post judicial system. Since he is too old to sleep in jail, try a civilised arrest in the comfort of his home, they call it house arrest I think.
Viva sata,HH is heading no where
a wrong is wrong. Ronnie must talk like a man of God. All that he says is very far from his title. The lives have been lost and no amt of simpathy will bring the demise back to life.It is permant loss to their families. They will always be missed and there wont be any replacement to fill those gaps letf by them.And when you hear the cries of those affected let us stop Ba Ronnie we should be simpathetic.Those people are hate.They will continue talking as long as your govt continue justifying the loss of those lives.Leave the post out of your mess. The govt knew about that gathering a long time and they didnt put up measures to stop the gathering in a peaceful way? and today you are busying blaming others bcoz of your incompetence in your govt.Show some christian Ronnie
This was expected from the Post and mmembe, very predictable as we know all their tricks now. They have been looking for a juicy story to erase our memory of the damaging gay rights saga and cleanse Mr Sata. Boy, are they wrong! Only PF sycophants want to forget that gay and lesbian statement, not the rest of normal Zambians. We say no to a male First Lady in State House.
And remember to watch your favourite “Stand Up for Zambia” on ZNBC TV tonight at 20.00hrs. Please re-stock on your popcorns.
I want to advise all well- meaning Zambians not to waste their time and votes on PF. Kabimba`s statement that we think with our “tribe” and not brains is an insult to our intelligence. For once, lets be analytical and not allow mob psychology to crowd our thinking. Mob influence will produce a worse character than FTJ
IWE RONNIE COWARD SHIKAPWASHA WHAT ARE SAYING,THERE ARE NO POLITICS HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIVES OF PEOPLE.APOLOGISING FOR KILLING PEOPLE! REMEMBER THE MAZABUKA KILLING/MONGU
“I find this chap’s claims and allegations appalling, grotesque and galling. And his lies are a product of a distorted mind. Hichilema is an incorrigible liar with a limping conscience because I have had no contact with this chap,” Hichilema is just a cheap braggadocio.”Secondly, Hichilema is just an albatross hanging around UPND and he suffers from some debilitating form of political megalomaniac to the extent that he lives in self-delusion by trying to compare himself with US president Barack Obama and UK Prime Minister David Cameron on the basis of age,” Mpombo said.
The Post and PF will cry just within the next few months. They can demonise HH but we as his supporters will know what to do. We will ensure that the PF and Post are burried after this year’s elections. The biggest opposition now will either be third if they are lucky or fourth largest opposition. The UPND that they are demonising will resume its second largest opportion and come 2016, we will be in state house with our mighty HH. But for this year, we will know how to vote.
Down with MMD, Down with RB and his foolish advisors like Ronnie and Kunda….The Zambian Revolutions starts in Barotseland……Down with RB Regime !!!!!!!!!
ZAMBIANS, who said or told you that PF don’t have an agenda or manifesto for zambia?
PF have a manifesto,and PF supporters are propagating it to the delight of the achitecture SATA.
PF-MANIFESTO IS “NO USING BRAINS,USE INSULTS,INCONSISTENCE, HATE AND TRIBALISM.” TRIBALISM SONG IS PF NATIONAL ANTHEM.
PF supporters like BUWELEWELE MUCHALO with that type of debate and hate in their blood they can be recruted in BAHRAIN and YEMEN as SNIPERS ON ROOF TOPS AGAINST THEIR OWN BROTHERS AND SISTERS for the sake SATA only NOT ZAMBIANS.
Ala bee mwaiche sana fye! Am bad.
If indeed President Banda is remorseful and compassionate over the loss of the two lives in Mongu and as his Chief Vuvuzela mouth piece claims Bwezani is currently mourning with the bereaved family, why has he not apologized? And why did his deputy, one red lipped AIDS-HIV patient George Kunda lie in parliament that the killings were justified? This is nothing but a lot of crocodile tears and the people will not buy them. Further, it is Banda who is disrespectful of the elderly because he is the one who without any shame locked up a frail 92 years old man, slapping him with treason and torturing him in jail. This Bwezani of Shikapwanya, he is cursed sure!
It is sad that the Post are so desperate that they will use a man in his 90s to gain political mileage. They have not done their research because there are reports that this man is causing trouble because he is not the Litunga, not all Lozis supported the riots that occurred in Mongu and more crucially not all people in W province are Lozi and will not necessarily support the restoration of the BRA. I think the Post would have done a better job by trying to gauge the opinions of the people of W province regarding the BRA and development in the province but that would cost money and we all know that the Vuvuzela has not got any, hence the usE of a tribal supremacist in his 90s who encouraged young people to engage in violence, to gain cheap political mileage.
Sometimes I fail to understand Zambians. Its no wonder and no surprise this country is where it is today. People have called government all sorts of names for the unfortunate deaths that occurred in Mongu and those who where maimed.
Gentlemen, why do you deliberately choose to forget that prior to those deaths that occured in Mongu, there was a group of people in Western Province that was threating to secede Barotse Land and KILL all non Lozi speaking people who didnt vacate Barotse land on a given deadline? This threat was real and police had to intervene. All you people who want to come out like angels who care so much about those lives that where lost, please argue with facts not just out of hate for RB? What did you expect the police to do? To wait and see if the threats were real?
The Post will use anyone to make make money. And why would a 92 year old man be making news, this man is so old that whatever he does has no meaning. How many 92 years man sense?
This old man Mututwa does he really think Sata has a positive agenda for W province? If so, what is it then? What projects has Sata outlined for the province and has he apologised for trying to curtail the powers of the Litunga in 1996? Instead of using this senile tribal supremacist, the vuvuzela should be selling to the electorate the plans that the poverty future (pf) for the development of the whole country. Lining up critics day in and day out is not professional journalism.
so what if the Post is using this old man, MMD uses Chanda Chiimba, chifire and all those minions you have employed through ZNBC, TIMES and DAILY MAIL
#35 You are very correct. People deliberately forget this very real threat of ethnic cleansing and the fact that the gathering in question was illegal. Whether or not you support the govt, you can not choose what law to respect and what law to break. Furthermore, the people attending the illegal gathering had weapons on them which means that they were not planning on conducting a peaceful demonstration. There was a demonstration in Mongu soon after the riots in which the families of those arrested petitioned the govt to release those arrested on bail. That demonstration passed without incident which shows that it is possible to demonstrate without resorting to violence and damaging public property which all of us as tax-payers have paid for.
SERIOUS INFERIORITY COMPLEX a self generated and inflicted injury by SATA AND PF supporters.
HH has never said that he is OBOMA or CAMEROON or any other person . HH is just HH.
Wherever change is taking place be it in Africa OR Middle East THRE ARE NO obamas or CAMEROONS Tthere. What is there is the desire for change for the benefits of citizens and NOT for the benefits of ONE OLD EXISTING OR INCOMING DICTATOR AND HIS CLIQUE OR TRIBE.
HH IS THROUGH UPND MANIFESTO IS PROMISSING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR ZAMBIANS ESPECIALLY THE UN EMPLOYED EDUCATED ZAMBIANS,PARTICULARLY THE YOUTHS.
#37 Chanda Chiimba is only screening what the vuvuzela used to write about Sata a few years ago. In fact most of the material for his programmes is found in the Post’s archives.
General, General ! Freedom of speech please. If you see nothing wrong using Chimba, Lifwenkelo, Mumbi, Chimumbwa, Chifire etc don;t cry foul when others also use people opposed to you. Don’t think we are only to listen to the MMD cheerleaders.
MMD 2 many enemies? What did u expect the Post to do? Give the old man a black out? Are u really democracts? Itching ears wanting to hear praises only. I feel for my Lozi brothers and the bereaved.
I am a staunch upnd supporter but i feel someone has to remind HH(who really seems to be an under five) that upnd is bigger than him.i almost had a seizure yesterday in monze when i saw a rally with placards reading:RB FOR MMD AND UPND 2011.people this is monze we are talking about and am pretty sure this rally was meant to test the waters otherwise it could nt have taken off in the first place
#30 BAROTSE AMRY
Easy, drink some water and cool down.Dont die of High Blood pressure, your cause is a non-starter soldier boy.I bet you are a coward who just rants on various websites.I thought you were amongst the treason mates of yours in Mumbwa prison?but I guess I was wrong, you are still in hiding, could’nt stomach the real army ka, 3ZR, watchout! next time we wont be as soft as we were last time.
Unfortunately for us all, the votes are what counts. One day PF or UPND will be in power. I can assure you that these stories we are hearing here will still be the same. Only names will change.
#35 DELIVERABLES SAYS, you are really trying hard to appeal on behalf of SHIKAPWASHS and RB,how do you justify the fact that in MUFUMBWE, MUZUNGU’s son killed for the support of MM/RB and in MONGU the POLICE killed in support of MMD/RB led GRZ. And in both instances RB/MMD GRZ instruments of power heaped blame on the victims. SEAT DOWN IN YOUR CORNER AND IMAGINE WITH GOD STANDING OVER YOU ,WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED, if it was a upnd killer, to HH/UPND and People of N/Western who supporter HH/UPND.
What would have happened to ,if it was a BRE ACTIVIST killer,to MUTUKWA/BRE SUPPORTERS?
These are signs and attributes of GADAFI.
HH IS THE WAY FORWARD BASED NOT ON PF INSULTS AND TRIBALISM,RB/MM DESIRE TO CLING TO POWER,CORRUPTION,VOTE RIGGING AND PROPAGANDA, AND NOT ON POST HATE JOURNALISM.
It is the most useless paper to ever hit the streets in Zambia.
In Libya, Col. Gadaffi is being punished by NATO for using live bullets on its people. What about you RB, your cops have been using live bullets on innocent Zambians?
“PF is no match to the MMD in the forthcoming elections”says Kakoma and hh. this sound to me that these two men are now mmd cadres
@41 Personally I see no problem with anyone using someone for their political mileage. What is wrong in this case is the the POST is a newspaper. They are not registered at PACRA as a political party or NGO. Let any NGO or PF or UPND use this man and we wont say a word.
Shaka is a very dull guy he forgets that MMD is using Chanda Chimba it is the name of the game politics
HH is critical to both Sata and RB except the media in Zambia because of being shallow minded only pick petty substances for reporting.In Mumbwa HH was critical of RB but the Times only picks negatives against Sata and not RB and because people are end accusing HH of being against Sata. He has condemed corruptio by RB’s government but Times wount report such and only pick items against Sata. This Sata knows and that is the reason he does not hit back.
To Puchukwe,
These nothing wrong been homosexual, if i kn remember your dad used to meet my father in one of the hotels in Lusaka while he lied to your mother that his out on a business trip…
#45 ,you are justifying RB/MMD and SATA/PF insulting HH/UPND and when you who claim to be UPND supporter is not defending HH/UPND let alone explain the manifesto of UPND.If you have been annointed with the devil spirit of injuring and causing more pain to the innocent like JUDAS repent because that could be reason why GOD is still sparing your life NOT that you deserve it. Use,just like me and other well meaning Zambians our lives to the Glory of God by preaching and sharing love and decency on earth starting with our own mother Zambia.
Big nose,I have been advising you to keep quiet on issues which you have little knowledge but alas my advice has been falling on deaf ears.Look at the insults people are throwing on you.You think using your big nose instead of using your small brain.I advised you that ,according to your bogus constitution,people are supposed to talk as long as they do not attack each others reputation.But you have gone in public embarassing me as your advisor.Next time you open your big mouth,you should let me go through your speech.You are a disgrace of a minister of misinformation.I expect you to be conversant with clauses in your bogus constitution.I beg you to stick to my advice next time you open your mouth.OK! are we together?
ZAMBIANS LET US BE FOCUS.THE REAL CHANGE WE WANT.HOPE IS IN MICHEAL SATA
@ 46, Its unfortunate that you bringing in a lot of issues at once, I will however try to adress them one by one. First of all I want you to know that am very MMD. Secondly I want you to know that in MMD there are youths who reason like me and dont just take a side blindly. On the issue of the people who died in Mongu honestly, you cant blame it on the police if you are a realistic person. There was an ensuing riot and the police had to act period. Lives were lost that is very unfortunate but it happens when the police are trying to stop rioting people.Look at what happened in Mazabuka? Even if am MMD, I am sane enuf to see that that was utter Police irresponsibility and the offending police deserve punishment.
Muzungu’s son breached the law, that is plain to see even if am MMD. If am correct the law has or is in the process of visiting him. There is no way you can defend that.
On HH being the way forward I will once again bring to the ground and say I think you being a bit over ambitious. HH should come to MMD where there are structures if he wants to be President. Outside that, he will get as Old as Sata and remain on record as one of the greatest OPPSOTION leaders.
VIVA MUTUTWA. IN MAZABUKA GOVT APOLOGISED BUT IN MONGU GOVT DID NOT. RED LIPS JUSTIFIED THE KILLINGS IN MONGU EXPECTING WESTERNERS AND MUTUTWA TO BE HAPPY.
CHANGE IS COMING,
SATA AND PF 2011. BEWARE UPND THE TRIBAL PARTY WHICH JUST SPLIT THE VOTES.
VOTE MICHAEL SATA IF YOU WANT CHANGE.
Apologizing to treasonous people??u condem the arresting of a man coz he is old,what if that man was the main coz of all the riots ??how do u justify the attacking of non lozis in western province??..nangu ala bee twalimupata,he cnt b blamed for what happened..those guys should even be thankful that they have been released,imagine sata was president,where would these chaps be??
Some of us from W province support RB for saving us from genocide from Lozi extremists. If the Post and Sata think that everybody in Western province is behind these potential killers and supports the BRA then they will get a shock when many districts in the province give RB a landslide.
#60 Dont u realise that PF is also busy spliting votes for HH.. they have never won and will never win especially that they have alinged themselves with MEMBE AND the POST. they are using bankrupt Mpombo to make noise against HH..that old man should be gratefull because he committed treason and should have been jailed for life.Lets all vote for real change HH , but be ware PF is likely to split so that RB gets 96% …NO ONE OWNS VOTERS, ALL HAVE EQUAL CHANCE lets GO HH HH.HHHHHHH
What is UPND’s purpose in Zambian politics?! They are a useless lot! Why do you always attack PF on every news item?
UPND for life, Viva HH, to hell with the SATAnists………!
# 64 We attack you because you wanted to take us for a ride in your boat full of gay people! Viva UPND
This year i will vote to retire the 74 years OLD Sata from active politics. PERIOD.
SERIOUS INFERIORITY COMPLEX a self generated and inflicted injury by SATA AND PF supporters.
HH has never said that he is OBOMA or CAMEROON or any other person . HH is just HH.
Wherever change is taking place be it in Africa OR Middle East THRE ARE NO obamas or CAMEROONS Tthere. What is there is the desire for change for the benefits of citizens and NOT for the benefits of ONE OLD EXISTING OR INCOMING DICTATOR AND HIS CLIQUE OR TRIBE.
HH IS THROUGH UPND MANIFESTO IS PROMISSING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR ZAMBIANS ESPECIALLY THE UN EMPLOYED EDUCATED ZAMBIANS,PARTICULARLY THE YOUTHS.
Mpombo says; “Hichilema is just an albatross hanging around UPND and he suffers from some debilitating form of political megalomaniac to the extent that he lives in self-delusion by trying to compare himself with US president Barack Obama and UK Prime Minister David Cameron on the basis of age,”
Those saying UPND will vote to injure are not sincere. UPND should vote to win NOT to make PF lose to the MMD. The MMD should not be the altenative to continue ruling Zambia. One of the opposition should carry the day. Now if UPND thinks they cannot win then it;s unfortunate.
Let us say we accept our wrong for supporting gay. What wrongs do you as UPND support? Stealing like kafupi? Haven’t you noticed that Post is against Kafupi at all cost. The Post supported MMD last election because Kafupi was in favor of PF. So we lost. Now you may say, who supports the Post, the answer is the donor countries full stop. :-w
Shikapwasha is a money sucker…why answer on behalf of a remorseless president….you thought the two guys you shot at will have their blood sacrificed for your political demons? the blood is on your shoulders and God is punishing you severely
@Puchukwe you are a shameless IIII*****………you have nothing to say do you think serious Zedians will vote for HH? just wait you blind cadre…. we are coming….. wether pf or no pf us the people are fuuuuuucking out the mmd sttttupit iiii*****. one zambia one voice and that VOICE MMD kuya bebele… zwaaaaaaaa
HH has just lost his cleansed nontribal image the chap is dull……worse than Sata and Rb…….
@ 65… to hell with you FREE MANSONS togetherv with RB budhist viva unip
Who says UPND can not win..?. who owns voters …no one. so all have equal chance and lets stop attacking eachother in the opposition.. VIVA UPND.
infact mpombo is himself admiting that HH can be compared with obama because HH has neva said he is like obama or cameron.Viva HH. This time around the negative publicity from the post will have no effect on HH popularity.
Mwaka ona kankhalamba aka ka Mututwa! Iko kadziwa kuthi kali pafupi ndikufa koma kalikufuna kuthi ana ang’ono adzipedwa ndi nkhondo! Kanakhala vyaka va mbiri muno mu dziko lathu la Zambia kopanda nkhondo, kufikira kuthi iko kakwanitsa vyaka 90, koma kalikufuna kuthi adzukuru anzake iwo akamwalile ku ubwaniche. Ndidzodabwitsa kwabasi nkhani zimene izi.
No 61 (Kasman) which non lozi was attacked, be infomed that you were misinformed, the fliyers of chasing the non lozi speaking pipo were distributed by MMD cadres and the people who were charged with treason were pointed by the same cadres. Do you think that if they had commited treason crimes the court of laws were going to let them go? Pls do not coment with little knowledge. Most of the lozis in court now were not even around during the time we were rioting here in mongu. they were caught by the police at around 02:00 hours of 13th Feb not on 14th. I wonder how a normal person can be charged for riotious behaviour when they were not there. mind you the young man killed and latter accused of wanting to set the BP filling station ablase in not even lozi but mbunda, not Lozi cont next
i thank the post newspaper for covering this issue, ZNBC with it beter tv could not even interview one of us to get our views instead they were asking pipo with litlle knowledge on this like some of you. Shikapwasha release my brothers, fathers that you still perscuting, there are innocent. the people started destroying gov properties after you police officers killed our brothers. May The almight God keep a curse to those who participanted in the killings.
Shikapwasha has forgotten that his boss George Kunda said government will not compansate those who were killed or injured by the state police. So who is RB morning?
“PF is no match to the MMD in the forthcoming elections”says Kakoma
<PF Kaponyas like Mpombo and lo.sers here keep thinking this statement above means UPND has joined MMD. Where in this line above does it say it and how do you get it twisted so far?
UPND knows PF is not strong enough to beat anybody by itself and this is what the statement says.
PF CANNOT BEAT MMD!!
Words that were correctly spoken by UPND followers who speak the truth unlike PF lies spewed everday.
The POST never supports a winning candidate. Becareful PF, being supported by the Post will jinx your election chances. If I were you I would the Post to keep off!!
Ronni you must understand that your government started this and you must take it that way. Don’t cry foul over the damage you made yourselves with RB; the waste is ahead of you. You must know that people are thinking as you claim to do. We are tired of MMD and you must go.
PF and the Post must know that we the people of Zambia vote not Mpombo alone or Panji or Waza Kaunda. We know the best man for Zambia and this time arround we vote to injure PF because call your friends under dogs when you know that in politics this is no one who owns the voters. Young man HH becouragous and don’t give up or listen to these wathogs who just open their mouths anyhow.
Its really sad that Post can abuse and trouble this old man Mr. Mutukwa. This really saddens me. We know that Mr. Mutukwa is a related to Memembe through Inonge Wina (PF Chairperson) who is Meemembe’s aunt.What is even unfortunate is that Mr. Mukutwa at his age can be taken advantage of by this selfish individual who has been given a task of making PF stronger in Western Province if he is to get the Veep post. But what Meemembe does not know is that his efforts are in vain and should just concentrate on rebuilding the credibility of the Post Newspaper which has now become a mere image builder of a disgraced old politician. It has become a paper that pipo are now using as toilet tissue or merely using for packaging fitubuwa. Thats how useless and less informative this paper has become.
IWE SHIKAPWASHA BE SERIOUS. WAS THE POST THERE WEN YOU WERE BUSY SHOOTING PEOPLE. HAVE EMPATHY AS A MAN OF GOD. DONT SUPPORT BLINDLY. WHAT A PETHETIC SPOKESPERSON
While on the 13:00 hrs News on RADIO PHENIX 89.5, Mpombo (a man the Post has reduced to a mere barking dog) has been challenged to tell the nation what is position is on the Auditor Generals Report that implicated him for not retiring imprest amounting to over ZMK100 Million. The report states that Mpombo used to submit fake receipt and in some cases abused government resources. And this is the man who was put behind bars for bouncing a cheque. And this is tha man the post are using to attack a credible HH. And this is the man who has pledged to support SATA. In all fairness and modest i would have been worried or saddened had UPND used this man as a campaign manager like PF is doing coz the man is as disgraced as SATA and Memmemebe with his post.
#14 Fide,
I am laughing allowed at your wishful thinking. Two points I must make clear for your sake:
1. The homo issue has stuck to Sata forever like it or not. We all know English and can interprete it on our own.
2. I will quote your own words: “PF is here to stay and will for sure rule Zambia one day.” end of quote. My comment. Not in our generation!
# 35 what you have said was a Government propaganda so that they cud justify the killings because that was not true. Ask those in barotseland, people just saw those papers without the name of the author as for the groups themselves on every paper they were putting their names, even the police is aware of this.
#64,mazwu.you are right on spot bro.ulalema.
#81 EASY DOES IT
Good points. It is only crooks and homosexuals who will cling to buffons like Mpombo for their survival. If you can imagine what gays get down to in this world then you will understand what sh!t the Post are willing to swallow in order to convey their agenda. These are the same crooks who not long ago were vilifying Sata and Mpombo now their new found stars. We wish them luck. We Zambians are not short of memory.
@10 Puchukwe – I hear your family is composed of homo chakuti
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THE IGWE – They helped MMD/Kafupi, dont forget
I regret youths who are used by Rich Sata for nothing. My advise to the youths is never be used by political parties. You lose your life and they (PF MMD & UPND) will keep on enjoying. If you get Sick no Sata will fly you to South Africa or other countries. I have gone to gvt schools but never met Satas son os grand why they go to expensive schools dont be fooled. He has outlived his career. Let him become a consultant to young leaders. MMD should also look for a young President who will plant a tree and expect it to fruit after five years…………….
It was MMD s mistake to gun down innocent lives so if the post is feasting on that mistake you cant blame them. The MMD is no diffferent from Gaddafi who is gunning down his own pipo, Good work post newspaper. You exposed the MMD with the Kabwela story do the same with the shootings also. Wina azalila uno mwaka.
#83 If what you are saying is true, then why didnt the Lozi extremist supremacists refute the allegations? Those papers appeared weeks before the illegal demonstration but the Lozi interahamwe did not say anything about the planned genocide on the day of the riots. Also, there are peaceful demos that are carried out the world over whereas these thugs had all manner of weapons because they wanted to make trouble period. They could have gone to court to challenge the govt’s banning of the demo and to refute the allegation that they were planning to kill non-Lozis but they chose not to. Not everybody from W province is Lozi and we refuse to be administered by the defunct BRA which will be an instrument for Lozi domination in the province. We say ‘no’ to genocide and Lozi supremacy.
#89 People taking part in an illegal gathering threatening to commit ethnic cleansing can not be termed ‘innocent’. Even in international law perpetrators of genocide will never ever be termed as ‘innocent’. If PF thinks that this stance will win them W province, they will get a shock. They should come down and speak to ALL the peoples living in the province so that they can get a clearer understanding of what the various peoples of the province want. Us non-Lozi speaking people of W province were threatened with genocide, it would have been wrong for the govt of the republic of Zambia not to protect it’s citizens. In fact I believe that they did a good job in minimising the loss of life to two people.
IFWE NI PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
49 fuul. Where did you see that? Did you mean treason chaps as “innocent Zambians?”
The Lozis are very upset about the shooting of their children and just before they could start thinking about the whole of the shooting incidence without anger one young man Siyoto losses his leg through amputation and is able to tell how he was shoot! So all MMD sycophants think Ama Lozi should be very proud of RBishs’ government? # 23 Advisor to Rbish has confirmed this, nincompoops giving brute solutions to national management?
Further, all those talking about homosexuality are gullible illiterates! Try convincing me with real evidence that MCS and Mmembe are homosexuals? ZP went and killed children in western province and you believe their parents and relatives do not deserve an apology? Your harebrained tantrums from Shikapuba will not gain MMD votes! WAKE UP! VIVA SATA, VIVA…
#90 DEJA VU – The Post NEVER helped MMD/Kafupi. The MMD was handed the government by the people of Zambia who were tired of Kaunda. The Post has never campaigned for a president who has gone on to win elections because of them.
#96 ATASE – Your name says it all. Useless mind! Sometimes you should think before breaking wind! There are toilets everywhere! If your beloved RB has the right to shoot Zambians down, next time it will be you —- oh, I forgot you are his son.
#36 – please have respect for the elderly. That man could probably out think you
#58,59 Deliverables:
1.BRE activists had applied for a peaceful assembly but their right of assembly was denied by RB/MMD led GRZ. 2.BRE activists were npt armed as police with guns.3.Muzungu,s son intentionally drove into innocent celebrating crowd ,and he killed innocent children BUT MMD led GRZ used their instruments of power to reduce the offence to lesser one from murder(are you in support of sparing applying the law to serve MMD offenders).4.Who is HH to be given MMD presidency when Magande,Mpombo,Kavindele,Siakafuswa,Mulongoti etc have been rubbished out after helping RB,(ask Mulongoti he will give you more detaiols).
YOU ARE TRYING BUT YOUR DEBATE IS BEING SEARED WITH YOUR SUPPORT FOR MMD REGARDLESS. AND I CAN SENSE TEMPER IN YOUR DEBATE,WHERE YOU ONCE PF.?
It’s a matter of time. An unresolved issue does not walk away by itself. A real man knows he has to deal with the hard things of life, or they won’t just disappear. Mr Mututwa might be or might not be used by POST. I don’t think he is senile. I think his faculties are still very sharp. Therefore, those who think he doesnt speak from an informed position should re-think. I think he needs to be helped to be assured that BRE and GRZ are in ‘discussions’ over the matter. Again, BRE have a very important role to play in assuring the old man that these ‘discussions’ are in earnest? Or are they?
The POST = PF VUVUZELA. The problem is that the majority of zambians in these fora are short minded. Sata and the Chawama hackers, Mpombo and the energy crises and today these characters are heros. Sata’s rule will be the same as that of MMD or worse.
#94 KATHANGA KAOMA
Were the guys who were shot by police coming towards you with pangas to cut you up into pieces?? Sometimes we should be thinking before rushing to comment. How do you equate your worry of being threatened to the shooting of innocent people who were probably hundreds of miles from your position? Even though people like you feel more important than other citizens it is insulting to other people to be using language of such kind and only underlines the dullness of minds in Zambia. No one deserved to die on that day, neither you nor the guys who lost their lives. Have a heart – your selfishness is shocking. Even armed robbers are spared their lives and are often taken to court first… but those boys deserved slottering on the spot. I cannever support such action!!!
#36 mushimba.dont insult me. by the time you reach my age your brain will be dead. Am still sharp. Am bad.
The truth of the matter is that the relationship between the police and the people in western province will take decades to repair, that is the truth. The police will find it very difficult to work. No government leader will ever go to western province and be able to address the general public and look them in the eye. It will be interesting to see what happens when the campaigns actually start. My strong suspicion is that MMD will do very badly this year and more people than ever will vote for the opposition. I don’t think Sata will benefit from this though. I actually think it’s Mr Milupi who will climb to a higher level with his party in the province. I know some people wanted to beat him last time he was there, but generally western province will largely vote for Milupi.
#103 It is not you who was threatened with genocide so you dont know what is like to live in fear for your family and friends. The gathering itself was illegal and there were many arms found at the place of the riot which illustrate that there was never an intention to have a peaceful demonstration illegal or not. If you think I should wait around for somebody to come to me or a member of my family with a panga before I react then am sorry you are leaving in cloud cuckoo land. How can I be the selfish one when I am the one threatened with genocide? It was not us who went round writing that if you are not a Lozi speaker you should leave the province or else face death. You claim that I am selfish and yet you try to justify the actions who want to force me out of my home for not being Lozi?
#103 The gathering in question was illegal. So to me anybody who was rioting and destroying public and private property in the vicinity of the illegal gathering will not be in my eyes ‘innocent’. I am sorry that people lost their lives but am equally glad that my family members have not been hacked to death simply because they live in W province and are not Lozi.
#103 When you are threatened with genocide due to your ethnicity, I hope you will show as much understanding to those that threaten you and your family as you have shown to those that threatened my family and I. Sometimes, if you have not experienced a situation it is better not to comment and lecture to those that have. Our people were living in fear up to the day of the riots because we did not know what was going to happen. Even now, we are still frightened that this Lozi supremacists will group and destroy our lives. So please spare the platitudes about ‘innocent’ people who deliberately choose to spread hatred and fear.
The pf magazine called post mmembe, ***** homosexual chap, you said you had nothing to do with the upnd. So what the hell are u doing now? shameless dogs.
Kathanga hammer hammer, iam nkhoya by tribe and these mashilus were saying if you are not lozi leave western province what were they thinking. Western province is not for lozis only. i fail to understand pipo who support nonsense like that which happened without thinking. For you to build in Mungu you get to be subjected to all sorts of red tape by the indunas and when we decide to develop in other provinces y blame the other provinces and not ourselves as pipo from western province
#110 What makes so angry is the fact that yet again when we discuss W province it is about Lozis and yet they are the ones who have been sitting and eating on top of other people’s heads. People are so ignorant about the province that they dont realise that the Nkoya people were there living happily long before the Luyi arrived and now we must sit back and let them hack us to death because we dont want BA?
Just imagine k kaoma iam with you brother all the way. The filling station was almost petrol bombed cause it belongs to a non lozi speaking person. I hear mu mbunda brother who owned some lodge/s in mungu relocated to some other provinces due to non lozi slurs propagated by a certain radio, a certain politico clout and a certain incompetent newspaper.
#75 Thobwa. You Fisi. Chimbwi. Brown hyna. You shall die before i kiss death.
#112 I hear such stories of discrimination all the time and yet people are rushing to support the same people who are oppressing us. How can the BA only include Lozis and forget about all the other people who live in the province who were there before the Luyis came? Why should I not be able to have a say in my future because I am not Lozi and these guys have the audacity to come here and start supporting a group of terrorists who wanted to spill the blood of innocent Zambian children? Those who attended the illegal gathering had a choice, us we were born who we are and for that we must sit down and accept a threat of genocide until according to Igwe somebody is literally hacking a machete into my child’s head?
This Mututwa chap is in his 90s and yet he is not ashamed to want to shorten the lives of others simply because they are not Lozi? Some of our fellow Zambian brothers and sisters agree with him simply because they want to discredit RB. Please dont play politics with the lives of our innocent children. If people think it is acceptable for us to be threatened with genocide, then we will have no choice but to defend ourselves.
A message for The Post Newspaper. This paper is up to disastrous mischief. Although I originate from Mpika, I have a heart for the people of Eastern Province. We know that the inception of The Post was meant to get rid of KK. A strange phenomenon reveals that when KK, Chiluba and Mwanawasa were Republican Presidents, government criticisms by The Post were relatively mild and occasional. But ever since RB became President, the newspaper abundoned all tenets of journalism to hail insults to RB and his family on daily basis. An open insult to the Easterners. Let the Easterners boycott buying of this paper which has no regard for my Mbuyas who genuinely contribute to the real development & promotion of peace to all parts of Zambia. This will teach Mmembe a business lesson.
What is amazing about the Post is this: they consistently called Chiluba a thief. They still do call him a thief today. They also consistently called Sata corrupt, satanic, barbaric and not worth presidential material, that he needed to be caged. BUT for Sata, suddenly things have changed. He is no longer called corrupt, satanic, barbaric and not presidential material. Today, the Post parade him as presidential material so much that the Post are even the PR guys for Sata. Accordng to the Post, he is the man! The Post no longer look at their Post archives, the Post archives are now for the likes of Chanda Chimba to rummage thru and re-tell the history of what the Post thought of Sata those Sata MMD secretary days. I wonder if the Post are not regretting having filed those Sata archives now.
The post newspaper is up to no good and is in-fact on its way to a disastrous ending. All those who are supporting PF are, in effect, providing an avenue for Mhembe Political Agenda (i.e.):
1. Continue tax evasion as was the case with the Zambian Airways;
2. Introduce gay and lesbian rights or homosexuality;
3. Entrench tribalism in ZAMBIA, especially the fake notion that Bembas are more superior than in other tribe in Zambia;
Fellow zambians, is this the agenda that we want to support?. The Post is merely abusing you for its own survival
I dont support the MMD because they are trash but Shikapwasha is speaking the truth. The Post are experts at hiding personal vendettas under public interest. There is just one man who wants to get at useless Rupiah Banda but he makes the Post staff publish only negative stories about this Banda. However in fighting The Post Shikapwasha has also turned The Times of Zambia, Zambia Daily Mail and ZNBC into the opposite of The Post. They only write trash about Sata and HH or any enemy of their s.tupid government. Its Zambians who have allowed the media to be pawns in political propaganda wars by continuing to read these propagandist publications.
PF is the only real party that has people’s interest at heart. Viva Pabwato!!
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