NAMWALA.member of Parliament Robbie Chizyuka says Zambians must demand taxpayers’ money collected by United Party for National Development (UPND) members of Parliament as allowances during the National Constitutional Conference (NCC) sittings.
Major Chizyuka said in a statement issued on March 30 that the MPs have betrayed Zambians by getting the allowances, which could have gone towards the construction of essential facilities like bridges and schools, only to turn against the constitution-making process at the eleventh hour.
The MPs on March 29 abstained from voting on the Constitution of Zambia Bill, resulting in the failure to garner a two-thirds majority for the bill to go through second reading in Parliament.
“They are the sole cause of the failure of this country to have a new constitution, having wasted time and money which would have gone towards the construction of roads, schools, bridges and hospitals,” MajChizyuka said.
He said UPND MPs should be held accountable for betraying Zambians.
“Why did they accept allowances when they were not in support of the new constitution? Where is their morality?” he said.
Maj. Chizyuka said it is unfortunate that the MPs have chosen to halt the aspirations of Zambians to have a new constitution, despite playing a prominent role in the constitution- making process.
He made reference to Regina Musokotwane, MP for Katombola, who was one of the vice chairpersons of the NCC.
He said Ms Musokotwane allegedly stopped her colleagues from voting for the bill during physical voting.
Maj. Chizyuka said the people of Southern Province should now know their MPs for what they are. He said the UPND is not a progressive party.
“No wonder the UPND keeps going forward and backwards. It is their way of life. They have taken the country backwards after advocating a process to move forward with the constitution-making process,” MajChizyuka said.
He said the bill was straightforward and non-controversial.
The bill sought to provide for the printing and publication of the amended constitution and to save and provide for transitional provisions of state organs, state institutions, administration, offices, institutions, liabilities, obligations and legal proceedings.
From Kitwe, ALEX NJOVU reports that Evangelical Youth Alliance International (EYAI) president Moses Lungu has also demanded that UPND MPs pay back NCC allowances.
Reverend Lungu said in an interview on March 30 that UPND MPs have disappointed Zambians by failing to support the constitution in Parliament.
“The UPND MPs must pay back the allowances they received from NCC sittings. We cannot blame Patriotic Front (PF) MPs because they stayed away from NCC sittings from the start. UPND MPs were only interested in allowances,” he said.
Rev Lungu said UPND MPs have failed Zambians and warned against voting for politicians who have no direction.
“As an alliance, we are disappointed with what the UPND members have done to Zambians. A lot of money was spent on the whole process of the new constitution,” he said.
He said it is unfortunate that the implementation of the new constitution was politicised by people who have no heart for Zambians.
Rev Lungu said the new constitution would have resolved various problems facing the people.
“What the UPND MPs have done is evil. They have betrayed the people by pretending to sit in NCC meetings when they had no interest in what was happening,” he said.
Meanwhile, the MMD on the Copperbelt has condemned opposition members of Parliament for failing to support the Constitution of Zambia Bill.
Speaking when he addressed several MMD leaders at Kitwe City Council chamber yesterday, MMD provincial chairman Joseph Chilambwe castigated the MPs for walking out of a vote on the bill.
“These are the people who wanted a new constitution and yet they could not support it in Parliament. What has happened is not good and the people of Zambia are disappointed with the Patriotic Front (PF) and UPND members of Parliament,” he said.
Mr Chilambwe said the people of Zambia expected the MPs to support the bill which was intended to address various challenges facing the people.
“What it means is that the constituencies cannot be divided or increased. MPs are sent to Parliament to represent the people and not for their own benefit. It is important to scrutinise leaders aspiring for various positions. UPND and PF MPs have failed the nation,” Mr Chilambwe said.
Mr Chilambwe said the opposition MPs cannot be trusted.
He urged UPND president Hakainde Hichilema to join the MMD instead of hoping to win this year’s elections.
Mr Chilambwe said Mr Hichilema will be dumped by UPND members if he fails to perform well in the poll.
“In the first place, UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema must forget about becoming President of Zambia for now because God has already chosen President Banda,” he said.
He said Mr Banda is a mature leader, who should be given a full five term in office.
“President Banda is a peaceful man, a Christian, mature man. He is focused on developing the country,” Mr Chilambwe said.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
ati God has already chosen Banda! ala Lesa nimalyotola. NEVER put His name into desrepute. God has nothing to do with the current political scenario after the first human president, King Saul was chosen by the PEOPLE instead of God Jehovah.
Robbie
give back the money you got from MMD to attach UPND.
Please also burn your UPND party card as you are not wanted.
You are a TRAITOR!
The idio.ts led by u5.
Bakabolala, bangivi, kasakala nyongo, bapumpwe, kawalala.
Chizyu.. what ever maj you are, pay first then everyone will follow. Why talking as if you are a Grade 4 B when you understand well that the process had stood a good faith only to be manipulated by govt. What do you expect from 5+ sensed people the ones not looking for employment with MMD. Chizyu please be principled or else you will insult your own mother. think twice about the bill flop.
shut it up Robbie. Is it UPND members who set up the NCC? This is how you should play the game when you are dealing with foo.ls. Hit them up!
ma guys ni boswita ah.
Intelligent people in UPND. Very bold indeed. I admire their character and have shown that they cant be duped any more. This carefully crafted amendments were done to hoodwink the zambian people and UPND has swarted this move by MMD. VIVA HH, Bachepa!
Robbie, you should be saying everyone who waz at that circus called NCC must return the money.
These knuckleheads. This bill was not going to address the desires of the Zambian people as submitted to many review commissions, so its failure is a victory for the people. We are back to square one and next time around we may get it right. As for the money, those were sitting allowances – sit and you have earned. IT WAS NOT TIED TO THE OUTCOME FROM PARLIAMENT.
Chilambwe shut up and don’t talk about PF MPs who had nothing to do with the raping of Zambian resources by greedy UPND and MMD MPs who just sat there dozing after a fat meal and failed to ensure that the aspirations of Zambians were protected. DON’T KUBEBA!
Nowonder we struggle as a nation, so these (picture) are the traitors who run our affairs in parliament, they all look hungry and just waiting for allowances. VIVA PF MPs and shame to the rebels. Power to the people. DONTI KUBEBA!
Robbie the people that attended the NCC did it in good faith and they thought they could fight from within but they where wrong because the whole process was hijacked by Veep and the whole process is a mess now. The Veep should pay back the money for sabotaging the new constitution and not the MPs.They went there for people’s constitution not the Kunda Toilet tissue. WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE!!!! MAMA EEE. MWE LESA!!!
# Mwanya Bane, You dont seem to see that HH is not your enemy. The man wants the best for everybody including you and me. My brother there are a lot of issues surrounding today’s politics, far beyond what your eyes can see. If HH is under 5 like you say, what is the difference with you? You and I should also be under 5s. But that was a joke by your sata, trying to demean a competitor, vulgar it was. Tell me what is PF’s manifesto?b Lets share ideas as youths, not insults.
George Kunda you should know that the 50%+1 that we want in the constitution is not for u and RB its for the people of Zambia and are prepared to pay the price. It seems u cowards will never change. Come election day we will look for a brave man- one of our own.
UPND went in to fight and they have fought to the best of their ability. Who has won now? PF were already out of the equation.MMD thought he could dribble UPND, but alas! Kunda has scored in his own goal. A small party, as refered to UPND by some lunatics, has dribled the mighty MMD.
Politics of benefits, I think we should come up with a situation where MPs should not get any gratuity and the n we would have genuine men and women in politics, serving the nation. Indeed its politics of benefits, thats why we have people in their 70s wanting to to state house even when they know they cant bring any development, let alone anarchy.SHAME ON ALL OF YOU THIEVES!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, UPND wanted 50+1 % for the people of Zambia, including Sata and his PF.When that was not given, they also found a chance to pass the ball between Kunda’s legs and they scored.
Chizyuka watch out! We all know where u stand and you dont even need to talk at all. Can you tell FTJ to refund the millions of dollars first before you open your mouth wider. After that you go ahead and see his wife too and get back the stolen state property. The UPND MPs did a wonderful thing any learned person can see to abstain on that day. Had the MMD gotten the day, you would have been celebrating whilst us the people of Zambia would have been crying for being given a constitution that has ommited most of the people’s submissions. And if PF MPs were part of the process, together with the UPND MPs we would have had the majority in terms of votes as the process went on. So don’t pointe a finger at UPND MPs but yourself Chizyuka and MMD that tried to dribble the people of Zambia.
mwana wamu ton.ga viva my tribe in grz 2011. look at our intellects just how humble they look. Zambia has the best crop of leaders viva upnd.
“Under 5 HH”, “TRIBAL PARTY”, “SMALL PARTY”, “FINISHED party” and PRINCIPLED HH/UPND serving Zambians from the manipulative, rigging,deceiving and corrupt MMD and the un-principled Chizyuka. GOD BLESS HH, GOD BLESS UPND, AND GOD BLESS UPND MPS.
HH, UPND and UPND mps are waiting for the ORIGINAL MUNG’OMBA DRAFT BILL TO BE TABLED IN PARLIAMENT FOR ZAMBIANS AND THEY HAVE PRAYED TO THE ALMIGHTY GOD THAT THEY WILL SUPPORT AND VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE IT STANDS FOR THE ZAMBIAN CITIZENS.
I do not normally agree with Chizyuka, but on this one he is right. These UPND MPs spent their time at the NCC plotting to bar Sata from standing. In short they supported every move by MMD to personalse the constitution, so what are the things that have made them change their minds? So who is a Kaponya here- one who stayed away from NCC because it was flawed or the other who went and chewed tax payers money only to change his mind(if ever he has any) about the things he supported.???
What right does MMD have to go around making laws without 50+1 just because they deem it necessary for their benefits?
Legal minds help us.!!! Is it not possible to hold both elections and referendum at the same time so that we sort out all contetious issues in our constitution and besides we just got 2010 census results.The only new cost will be referendum papers.LETS PUSH FOR IT GUYS.SO THAT WE SHAME THESE F>OOLS ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!
You wander at the caliber of some MPs , Major Chizyuka in particular. His understanding of the allowances that NCC members were paid is that they were bribes to facilitate a fraudlent process and in the event that the constitution was not passed they should refund the monies . What an airhead!
UPND are simply playing ‘DONTCHI KUBEBA’.It is a working phylosophy.
Deja Vue, You must be a bitter man bululu. what evidence do you have that UPND supported closes to bar your sata from standing. I thought it was UPND who made it impossible for the degree close to pass since the mmd supported it and the 50+1 to be refered to referindum since the mmd objetced to it.Have respect for UPND for supporting your cause.Isnt it you who have been saying that UPND is not a factor Zambia politics. Please learn this,multipartism requires people that are skilled in negotions and respect for us for one to succeed or else even when you think you are strong,the pact falls like it did. Requires respect even for somebody you think is small.
No matter what United Party for National Destruction will say,means nothing.It is a party of intellectual fools who are there to destroy and rape the desires of the people.Look out how they have behaved on the issue of a pact.They had to pull out when people needed them most.It is a party that behaves like a headless chicken.They went to NCC to rape the nation of its resources.These are the same people who want Zambians to entrust them with national resources.Where is the economic management they preach about?PF,should not be blamed because from the word go,they refused to partcipate in a bogus NCC.People should not vote for UPND because it is a group of mafias and criminals who reap where they did not sow.They will literally run the national coffers into depretion.Educated fools!!!!!!!!!!
Viva UPND MPs for your braverly. That is the Major Difference between you and the rest. You always think before acting. MMD thought it would be easy sailing but alas it wasnt. We need a pipo’s constitution not one tailored by G Kunda and his boss RB. We are proud of you UPND MPs.
HH is not a politician but a businessman, i suggest he goes back to the corporate world
I wonder who is a fool now. I may be the one in my analysis but if we look at things critically, Zambians should know this fact. Not all those in NCC agreed with deliberations there hence this outcome. PF did not want to represent Zambians. They are COWARDS!!!. UPND stood by and fought. Believe me if this this bill had passed, i would have blamed UPND for not representing me. Now that it has failed, they are heroes. No wonder they wont be liked by both MMD and PF. Read between the lines guys.
Ba Chitumbuwa, dont show your ignorance in public. Thank you for recognizing that the UPND MPs are eductaed and that is the more reason they make informed decisions to the betterment of all Zambians. They said NO to that bill because a number of things that we want as Zambians were missing. We then vote for it? They represent us and they did what we want. VIVA UPND MPs.
PF supporters must shut up. If anything, they should have attended the NCC so that they strengthen the voice that said no to certain clauses. Since you never represented the Zambians, go back to the bus stations and let UPND and MMD fight it out. This outcome is a battle of UPND and MMD. As a tax payer, i wont cry much because my voice has been head. I would have done so if it had passed in that context.
Insala ba UPND, just look at the picture above.
its pipo like robby chizyuka who is a major culprit in this case than the UPND MP’s though they are equally guilty. and all those that participated in this process when their principled friends stayed away should be made to pay back our money. Gerge Kunda was even advocating for Ministers to be paid double, when they were on the salary as ministers, also getting Parliamentary allownaces and they needed NCC allownaces as well. how selfish. but levy refused his request but I guess RB accepted it since he stands on nothing anyway.
MMD and PF are blaming UPND for the outcome. Where does this leave you and me the common Zambian? It simply shows you the common denominator between MMD and PF is manipulation which UPND can never be associated with. Can someone from MMD and PF tell me what outcome they wanted?
CRYING OVER SPILLED MILK !!! WHAT IS THE WAY GENTLEMEN?!!! THE FIGHT IS STILL ON!!!
PF. Thanks for not attending the botched constitution making process and squandering national
resources. God bless you
Those advocating for refund of NCC money should spare us their ignorance. Just audit the whole process and ask for refunds on the unbudgeted for amounts. I expected all opposition political parties to participate in the process to come up with the document. Some loser did not have the B.A.L.L.S. to fight for me and decided to remain home. I wonder what type of a soldier he is. If i remember very well, i gave him the full weapons to use just to come back before the battle even starts. It is such soldiers who deserve no second chance.
*****s wth old madala tired sata ,us we belong to de young man no matter what not to de old goods train driver WAMUYAYA WAKUDALA GRADE 2 GET OUT PF,viva HHHHHHHHHHHHHH
#25 No fly zone- Assured that Iam not bitter. I dont belong to politics per say. Even in my life you will never find me indulging in Zambian politics. If you read carefully what I said you will appreciate my points. 1) The UPND were for the Degree clause thinking that Sata would be barred from standing thus pave way for Hichilema- two things may have happenned either Sata’s degrees were authentic or the MMD decided to do awy with the clause so as to confuse the pact. 2) The UPND agreed with everything MMD put forward at NCC so why turn around and do something else.Yes the the proccess was marred by fraud and all Zambians were not happy and that is the more reason why the Upnd should have abandoned that circus but the whiff of the Kwacha
THEIR EATING MILK U DONT YOU BEMBAS VIVA UPND ED HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i want salute UPND!!!!! PF wanted to ride on UPND to get power, today its Kunda and MMD who are crying they wanted to use reputable image of UPND to get what they wanted.
non of the above is UPND MP
WHO EVER POSTED THIS GOT ALOT OF QUESTIONS TO ANSWER, NON OF THE ABOVE IS upnd MP
Kunda nabakocha ichishimbi nemilomo shapilako learn to read the situation of your politics UPND and PF thanks balefwaya batoche ba MMD but at last Kunda akaba.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is no need to blame the UPND over this matter. UPND went into the NCC in GOOD FAITH, hoping in a small way, to bring on board various aspirations of the Zambians. Of course, they should have realized that numbers were not in their favor. However, the constitution review process was started by Levy P Mwanawasa- a President who had a bit of moral uprightness and UPND had hoped that Levy would live to see this process to its conclusive end. RB hijacked the process and wanted to use UPND to rubber-stamp his useless bill. VIVA HH..VIVA UPND
Has somebody seen the picture in front of the POST newspaper today? There is a group of OLD pipo who want to join govement through PF. Looking at their age, one could have thought that they are supposed to retirie and do something sensible but alas they are looking for jobs. GOD have mercy for my country.
PF stayed away. UPND particidated and their demands or expectations were not met. So they asbtained so no big deal. Only blame is on the greed by GK. . . En his minions. Misleading) as justice minister en failing to control business mu parliament or heading as the boss. Ba speaker nabo eish. . . Ni wamuyaya.
How many members of the National Management Team of UPND are at least degree holders? Bloggers help me with this info so that i evaluate this talk of UPND members being educated
What UPND did is what we call selfless. They refused to rubberstamp the MMD constitution theirby rendering MMD impotent. VIVA UPND VIVA HH. This is what the country needs, thinking before you act.
GK was too arrogant, and wanted to give Zambia a raw deal. Thanks UPND and thanks PF for standing with Zambians. GK, do the right thing, resign! You have failed MMD and you have failed your president because of your arrogance and lack of respect for opposition. Today’s politics call for compromise and alliances not insulting each other! Money Mr. Veep cannot buy everything. Thanks UPND for teaching MMD a lesson.
Brave mps Upnd, mmd has danced to your tune. pf are cowards.
Zambia is a rich country but due to our attitude torwards serious matters we have made it poor.
Banda is mature and he will go through and he has to these others they just want allowances UPND has disappointed us what a mess.
Kunda says upnd wanted a coalition with mmd according to the post newspaper. We are waiting mmd and upnd bazaululana
On “NAMWALA.member of Parliament Robbie Chizyuka says Zambians must demand taxpayers’ money collected by United Party for National Development (UPND) members of Parliament as allowances during the National Constitutional Conference (NCC) sittings” I am disappointed about Chizyuka’s stance because it does not make sense for any person to return the money he was paid for carrying out his work.
If chizyuka has nothing to do with his money, let him return the money he has been getting paid as an MP for his failure to represent those that elected him MP under UPND because he is in opposition to the mighty UPND that helped him to be an MP.
The nonsense that this Chizyuka is is vomiting must not be condoned by any right thinking Zambians.
Be blest all and vote for UPND/HH…
Message by George Carlin – “we have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems. We have conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We’ve learned to rush, but not to wait”
its always the case whenever theres a failure samwhere opposition takes the blame its cheap propaganda politicians give us a break
Zinasila ndalama, alternatively send bailiffs to collect
UPND you are my people, thats why I will always trust you, you are really wise as you do not go for the wind and you are not cowards like some of these MPS. You made a good fight on the NCC and everyone could see that you are people of substance, your contributions were valid MMD wanted to use you but you said no. How can they pass the bill without the 50%+1 and coalision clauses which most zambians wanted, I remember from your debates you said it is not good for presidents to be ruling by minority, as he does not concentrate on developmental issues but to consolidate the next winning and buying the opposition. You were defeated on that day by MMD who were the majority, but I thank God that you blocked the MMD for wanting to pass what does not represent many Zambians.
The Tongas (UPND) as usual with their two band radios on their heads. Tulo ba Tonga, ukushishita pa last fya chita na abtain. Sorry calculator boy HH or Under 5 (as Sata calls you ) you will never rule with that ng’ombe ilede style. Wachepa sana!!
HH is the man for Zambia. He will turn around the economy.
HH is the man for Zambia. He will turn around Zambia’s economy
Ba Chizyuka, Democracy means you dont always have to agree with the ruling party. They were paid for the work for the work they did. They worked but disagreed with the constution reforms. Period.
HH is the man for Zambia
HH is the man for Zambia
The UPND MPs do not know what they are doing. This cause to show how un- united their party is. If these people really knew what they were doing they should have at least voted in favour of or against the bill. Since they do not know what they were doing they failed to make a choice because to them they do not represent people from their constuencies but do things on their own. If they represent their people they could have voted according to what they ewre told to do by the people thsy represent. If for example the people say we dont want it they should have voted against it and not walking away.
I trully understand the disease UPND and HH are suffering from, inferiority complex and lack of recognition. These people are really struggling with inferiority complex ..they talk about being educated but they are people without determination,class and manners. Unfortunately that is in their culture,for them to change their altitude they should first recognise their disease. Are they telling us that they never saw anything wrong with the NCC process until the end of the process. They want to eat with both hands . puuuuuuuu puuuube mwapuba! wasebana!
#63 you are entitled to your own opinion anyway, but you are abit mistaken. UPND guys are just principled and do not accept to be used the way some of you can use these other parties. Their principles have made people like you hate them because your go all the time is to use others. Their members have not defected to other parties the way others have done their political prostitution. They have represented their people so well that they do not care even to remain in the opposition as long as it is on principle.
The principled will always stand on what they believe in. People of Mazabuka will always vote for Garry Nkombo who rescued them from land grabers of MMD investors.
Major Chizyuka I would have supported you if you had said all those that received perks from NCC return them! And as for all you MP’s from Southern Province who have done nothing tangible, other than earning us a tribal tag, please consider leaving now for you have had a fill of spoils through parliament and only God knows where you have made your investments than in the areas that sent you to parliament so that some local residents could have employment. Our once vibrant agriculture and town centers in the Kaunda era have crumbled such that we have to travel to Lusaka for nearly all services sometimes dying on the way! Youths change starts with us we can have no hope for jobs if our leaders are visionless and can not bring and create jobs within our door steps. ATUBACINCHE!
Interesting article. Please write little more next time on the same theme.
UPND usually attack Sata and the PF saying that they flip flop. Can the UPND tell the nation how they contrived to flip flop on the same vote? When there was electronic voting they voted for the Constitutional Ammendment Bill but within minutes when the vote was repeated by way of a phyisical “division” vote they abstained! Do they know if they are coming or going?
On “He urged UPND president Hakainde Hichilema to join the MMD instead of hoping to win this year’s elections… Chilambwe said Mr Hichilema will be dumped by UPND members if he fails to perform well in the poll.[..] “In the first place, UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema must forget about becoming President of Zambia for now because God has already chosen President Banda,” he [Mr Chilambwe of MMD] said” it is interesting that suddenly the mighty UPND has proved to be the most formidable political party in Zambia this 2011 and sorry MMD because your overtures to Mr 2011 PACT presidential candidate HH will not work to porch him to your side.
Tough luck to MMD and PF for thinking that they were clever that the agile UPND Team that is teaching them all real politics.
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Matt…
Its very interesting to hear major Chizyuka commenting like that.It’s shameful when he knows that he is on the MMD payroll.
Stop blaming the UPND members of parliament.Why did the pf COWARDS walk out of parliament.At the end of their term are they going to walk out of the parliament accounts office to sign for the gratuity.Lets stop being hypocritical on this issue.The truth is that all members of parliament have a moral obligation to represent the people views but at the end of the day they represent themselves and their selfish ambitions