HOME Affairs Minister, Edgar Lungu has directed law enforcement agencies to establish elements behind the circulation of seditious and malicious material which is aimed at fanning tribalism in the country by making claims that various appointees are related to President Michael Sata.
And yesterday Government has deported former Zamtel Chief Executive Officer, Hans Paulsen, who had allegedly been in hiding in Lusaka’s Makeni area.
He said Mr Paulsen was found with two working permits which included one for Zambia and another for Sierra Leone and that Government could not tolerate such behaviour.
Mr Paulsen was heading Zamtel at the time it was under Libya’s LapGreen Networks before the company was repossessed by the PF administration soon after taking over.
On the circulation of the seditious material, Mr Lungu said security wings should probe some politicians working to incite rebellion or hatred against the Patriotic Front (PF) Government as such conduct amounted to sedition.
The material being circulated claims that positions at State House, in Cabinet, parastal entities, Constitutional Offices and diplomats are all held by people from Northern Province and those directly related to Mr Sata.
The authors of the document on the front page have posed the question: “Is Northern Province Zambia? Ask yourself if you are part of One Zambia, One Nation.”
[pullquote]He said Mr Paulsen was found with two working permits which included one for Zambia and another for Sierra Leone and that Government could not tolerate such behaviour[/pullquote]
The five-paged document has names of individuals appointed under various categories whom it is claimed belonged to Mr Sata’s family.
Mr Lungu directed the police and other security wings to quickly move in and establish who the perpetrators were, saying Government was aware of some politicians who could be circulating such malicious publications.
He said Zambians could no longer be fooled by speeches of tribalism from such allegations against President Sata and the ruling PF because there was no discrimination under the current administration.
[pullquote]He said if people never shared the views of the PF, it became difficult to accommodate them in the ruling party’s administration.[/pullquote]
Mr Lungu was speaking in Lusaka yesterday at a Press briefing attended by his two deputies, Stephen Kampyongo and Nixon Chilangwa; Permanent Secretary, Maxwell Nkole; his deputy, Willies Mangimela and Deputy Inspector-General of Police, Peter Chingaipe.
‘’Advocates of tribalism, nepotism and regionalism are the authors of this document and it will not be far-fetching to suggest that this is the work of one or two opposition political parties whose agenda is to incite discontent or rebellion against a sitting Government,’’ he said.
He said the concept of ‘One Zambia One Nation’ espoused by Zambia’s founding fathers was the guiding principle upon which the PF Government was anchored and that it was an all-encompassing administration.
Mr Lungu said the Government never discriminated its citizens on grounds of gender, race, creed, colour or tribe but rather aimed at creating an all-inclusive mix of public service.
He said the allegations of the ‘Family Tree’ were also levelled against former Presidents, Kenneth Kaunda; late Frederick Chiluba, late Levy Mwanawasa and Rupiah Banda and had now been floating and targeting President Sata.
He stressed that tribalism was no longer an issue in Zambia, saying the country had moved on through democratic processes where shared ideas and values were the bases of politics.
He said if people never shared the views of the PF, it became difficult to accommodate them in the ruling party’s administration.
[Times of Zambia]
Masipa
#1, Zambia does not need you. You are full of hate and insults.
You exhibit ignorance. Spare us your corruption.
Only revolution will help zambia.
What revolution? Zambia has had two revolutions. One ushered in the MMD, the second revolution has brought the PF to power.
If bloodshed is your definition of revolution, you are on your own. The majority of Zambia voted for the PF to lead the nation. Zambia is a Democratic country, except for a few elements like you.
Stop being obstructive, let the new government do its work.
iwe gundix …uli chipuba…you can not dispute the fact that your government is tribal….90 percent of your appointments are from one region! i challenge you to list the cabinet ministers …..
@Tona. If you concede that 90% of the appointments are from one reason prove it! Don’t ask Gundix to list it for you.
Absolutely, Njekwa.
The burden of proof lies with the disrespectful Ba zambia, who should probably not carry “zambia” in hers alias.
Let us suppose the 90% claim was true, should the government not appoint those who are willing and ready to work with the elected leadership of the day? Democracy is not about tribal balancing or tribal imbalance.
It very clear from those crying “tribe” in anything and everything that tribe is their all consuming passion.
We are a unitary State, one people, and we can all have our turn to rule the country as our opportunities come.
Criticism is always welcome as it provides checks and balances. However, for it to be acceptable, it must be constructive, not an expression of spite. Ba zambia, I don’t do insults.
Zambia is at peace God forbits you evil doer you lost an election and now you want to cause chaos we refuse.What do you want from our president the one you called names prior to election especial you Tongas I don’t want to pretend you have hatred for Bembas please stop it before calamity falls on you
Let us keep our PEACE. A person can come from Northern Province but he is not Bemba. People of northern and Luapula are not all Bembas. People who have settled on the copperbelt and lived there for a long time are no longer tribal people – even some of you here claiming to be one tribe or anther may not even know what it means to be your tribe. (What is it to be a TONGA?) We have passed that point ladies and gentlemen. We are Zambians. Ours is the job of building Zambia.
The PF are doing well at the moment. The small mistakes they are making cannot be compared with the big achievements they are scoring. Join the hardworking team and your life will not be the same. ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION.
why not publish that document and dispute it if not true.
Ever came across the word plagiarism? How do you publish a document you did not author?
The government is not a speculative shop to entertain childishness.
am amazed with your level of thinking gundix.How does plagiarism come in by merely issuing the same document not mutatis mutandis?
Lungu you are a fool. Sata is a tribalist. Just look at your colleagues in cabinet. Look at state house. Look permanent secretaries. Look at the diplomatic service. Look at parastatal chiefs. What do you see? Ask Godfrey Mwamba, at least he has been honest enough to admit it. This is a govt for northerners and luapulans.
@Livingstone. Are Lungu, Chingaipe, Mangimela Sata’s tribesmates or from Northern or Luapula province? It’s important to critically analyze before you start typing
@Njekwa Masipa, are the people you list full Cabinet ministers or ambassadors? Aren’t they mere sidekicks for window-dressing purposes so that fools like you believe the hollow hype?
@Catholic Monster. Don’t show your narrow-mindedness here. Where did I say that is the whole cabinet or ambassadors? All am trying to show is that it’s always wise to analyze critically before you made sweeping comments. Lufono!
Edgar Lungu wants to be chief govt spokesman
The President appoints a team to work with who can add value to our country not you evil doers
Data please! Where is the document? We want to judge by ourselves!
Grow up Edgar Lungu! People have been making such observations all the time. Allow people to have different opinions without being labeled criminal! Do you want Zambians to stop talking now? Think again Edgar Lungu!
osayopaaa…be firm..MR. SATA IS TRYING AT ALL COST TO THREATEN AND SILENCE THE OPPOSITION…VIVA ZAMBIANS VIVA THE YOUTHS SATA WAWAAAA….SATA ZWAAAAAAA
Not everyone who has a bemba sounding name is bemba or comes from the northern part of the country.
The undeniable fact is that there has never been a bemba President in Zambia. People must stop spreading hatred against each other. Hatred is counterproductive to national development
While others may have other places to run to in case of trouble, true Zambians only have this one Zambia as their home, so why try and destroy this beautiful place?
The country is sinking under Bemba supremacist ideology. Sata is a tribal warlord. Pf is a tribal govt. Pf supporters have justified their Bemba tribalism by claiming that only bembas voted for Sata and they are therefore entitled to 99% of Sata’s appointments. This should be a reminder to Zambians whose mother tongue is not Bemba to be careful the next time they go to cast their votes. Some people have no shame nor decency.
iwe ka chikala@ ka livingstone hw do yu expect pipo who never supported PF or does not support its ideologies to be included in govt, think with yo brain not yo dick chikala,stanyoko!
If Sata decides to appoint HH as vice president – what will UPND say?
Moderator! why are my comments not approved??
@9. Stop splitting hairs. Sata’s mother tongue is Bemba and therefore he is Bemba. Chiluba’s mother tongue was Bemba, so was kaunda. You are what you speak.
Too shallow an argument for the 21st Century.
Lol! Show me your deepness! Prove to me that Sata’s mother tongue is not Bemba. There is no running away from your tribalism. Empty name calling won’t do.
What is wrong for one to be Bemba? Do Bembas not have a right to exist? If you have a personal thing with Bembas, don’t think that we all share in that.
If you don’t want a Bemba person to have leadership authority over you, tell the Zambians to vote for a tribe of your choice. This is not a village in Chipata, it is a Republic. If 2016 is too long to wait for you to come to power, if Zambians should choose to vote for you, find another country where there are no Bembas in government. Stop tribal pollution.
The hard truth hurts, this man has divided this country. Those that benefit from this regime because of their tribal affliation should help this man to listen to people’s concerns bearing in mind that the resources are for all citizens.He was not voted to share the national wealth to one ethinic grouping. This is bad leadership morally wrong and need to be corrected.
Check Helo Zambia will find the document
Sedition my foot.Wat a level of nonsense from this son of bitch.! Go tel yr master tat the rest of zambians are not pleased at all.Things ar not okey for this PF government–tribal hatrage initiated by SATA is deeping each day & we ar just waiting for tat opportunity to strike the iron.
this lungu is very stupid. is he not seeing what is happening? stupid *****.
The author of that document are perpetrators of truth who want Zambia to move forward under One Zambia One Nation banner but Sata himself is a perpetrator of promoting and taking only at heart Bembas and foremost his relatives.It’s only silly and stupid persons of the likes of Lungu who are blinded by false allegiance and try by all means to drown the truth.I salute those gallant patriotic Zambians. Sata is an enemiy of One Zambia One Nation He is following the footsteps of his Hero Mugabe whose cabinet is full of shonas only,the para statal organisations are run by shonas and his relatives any complaint will read to a fatal road or mine accidents. Watch out for Sata/pf.
Lungu you are an *****. I rest my case
Bwana Lungu, instead of wasting police resources on investigating something which is true, why don’t you just advise your boss to correct the situation. Making pronouncements that the govt is not doing what it is actualy doing is insulting people’s intelligency. The Northern biasness in appointmnets is clearly advertised in your own cabinet formation. I am sure deep down your heart you know the truth, and as a christian it must pain you to keep defending lies. I feel pitty for you in a way since you have a family to feed.
I have a brother that speaks Tonga and married to a wonderful Tonga lady, another brother married to a wonderful Lozi lady, a brother married to a nice lady from Eastern province an Uncle who is Kaonde. What tribe am I?
You are a Monkey! Kolwe
Dear Monk #20, In reality, you are a very lucky person because you are part of all them. I say lucky because sounds like your family is more advanced mentally than some of the primitive tribal trash on this blog. Yours is a rainbow family, and there is strength in diversity simply because the future belongs to those who embrace that. If it was race, your nieces and nephews etc.. would be called mixed race.
The question is, why is it that tribal hostilities have worsened and reached boiling point in the past 11 months? Tribalism has become the nation’s main talking point and clearly something is wrong somewhere. It is folly for anyone to pretend that there is tribal unity and harmony in Zambia today, what is the cause and who is to blame?
Its because of democracy. KK used a lot of dictatorship and many were kept quite. Also Sata’s background. Many believed that he could not lead the country, they have been shocked that his dream came true and they find it difficult to accept. Surely freedom and human rights have limits. In Zed seems everything goes now – insult the loudest, tell the biggest lie its democracy. The opposition have not helped, in fact, its the opposition that has made it even far worse. The opposition is running a marathon run like 100 metres sprint which seemingly is not giving chance for PF to rule. Tribalism is the easiest point for anything, whether positive or negative
@ Floyd you make a good point. We need to have mature opposition. But I also pray that the ordinary Zambians are not listening to this tribal talk – they are filtering it through for the sake of peace. 2016 is not far, if people will not be happy with PF simply remove them and life continues – we dont have to create a situation where honestly innocent people begin to hate each other.
Also the online media are contributing significantly to fuel tribalism. These blogs without editorial policies can publish anything at any time. That is a problem emerging. Radio Mille Collines in Rwanda broadcast tribal messages that led to the massacre in that country. So blogs should be careful what they publish – they may just cause chaos in Z.
Bamudula ba Sata dont hurt us for not being Bembas. Please wake up Zambia is for all of us. We dont want to revenge after 2016 because PF will not be re elected.
what is uyu chakolwa chikal@ denying cos the facts are there for everyone to see.This a kantemba government of northerners
@Distant Drums. Somebody out there has runout of strategies to woo voters and hence has decided to play the tribalism/regionalism card. Note the people complaining. Have you heard any Lungu’s or Chewa’s for instance moaning about it?
Here is the document in question: http://www.helozambia.com/?p=5599 .There is something seriously wrong with these people. Instead of challenging the contents of the document first, they opt to arrest the authors. Anyone saying the document contains false information kindly tell us what’s false.
the document is there on watchdog..even a child can judge without applying any mental strength.if edgar want to dispute this document let him read all the names tell us if its not true
COMMENTS RESERVED UNTIL A DOCUMENT IS MADE PUBLIC .
Tough world. You loose you want to be the winner, they offer ministrial posts you against them. You appoint those who campaigned and helped you win elections those who lost want you to appoint those who campaigned against you, insulted you and even condemned you to death! You try to rule, they mount the greats negative campaigns, locally and internationally. What is right and what is wrong. They operate on the principle of ‘unless for them’. Every which way and whatever you do, nothing impresses them. What would you do? What does it take to lead a nation? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Today matters indeed. Lets see where it goes.
Bwana Minister, argue yo case with facts. Table the names and dispute the tribal remarks with Facks. RB used to challege people by asking them to check his cabinet.
Its not just Tribalism, It is racism as well
WHy cant we see more whites as ministers apart from G scott, there is no whiteman in that cabinet
Do I have everyone’s attention please?
Thanks
Mushota, whatever has come over some of these people. Is it not unbelievable what they put their keyboards to?
If they were white and in the USA these people would have died from shock just because Barak Obama became President.
Furthermore Mushota, these tribal people don’t do well in multi-racial societies. Don’t you pity them?
@9( Nshi Sunda Chisunde Sunde Kano fye Mu Muntu) I want to agree with you but just for your name! Are you confirming that Sata is not Bemba, if so what tribe is he and why has he got a sckening inclinationation towrads Bembas such as GBM, Chikwanda and Mwanakatwe?
Probing or silencing those who are leaking the document? we know what you mean we are not fools. 2016 is RED CARD
There’s nothing wrong with the appointments as long they understand the job and are able to dliver, the tibe thing is just in yo anii(mumatako yenu mwebaleponta). Its not everyne who can be minister,ps,director unfortunately some of u hv to die as peasant farmers…………
Pure African mentality. ati some people have to die as peasant farmers
Government should stop being silly. What is seditious about a document that is only highlighting the truth? Can supporters of this regime refute that the appointment in the government since PF came to power are tribalistic and nepotistic? What did they expect? That the nation is so daft they could not see the inclination and character of appointments? What a waste of time and resources.
so the list is on watchdog! nowonder.
Is this man normal? How can you investigate something which is there for all to see?
What Edgar, Sakeni and George Kellah should do is release a counter-document and state where each of those individuals comes from and how they are related to Sata. They should go even further and state the origin of people serving in the diplomatic service and how they are related to people in government. Ifya mainvestigate investigate tafya baze bakaamba!
Not evry person is a politician.there is no reason to justify tribal appointments,KK used 1 Zambia 1 Nation.this regime need to work up not being defensive
Shut up u Tonga’s.The problem u this u are more Zambian than others.Losers r losers.Sata apponted pipo he was fighting with 4 10 years.How can he appoint foolish hatres in position when there were busy spiting the votes.Sata is a hero.He has conqured u chaps!MMD plus foolish tonga UPND.We will defend Sata come sun come rain.Mwawa.We r watching u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you think its only Tongas who are opposed to Sata’s tribalism. That is were you are wrong. Even us non-tongas are not happy with Sata, only his bemba tribesmen are
I am from easter and opposed to this tribalism by PF. So do not target tongas. The Easterns that have been appointed are just for window dressing. Looking at Government at Minister Level, Deputy level PS, Heads of parastatals, foreign service, you will see that almost all new appoints are from northern and muchinga province (Bembas) and all those that have survived from the previous regime have some bemba inclination
HE SATA dont like foolish Chap how never voted fo u make ur Govt difficult ti Govern.Cage the *****s.The never voted 4 u.You have the mandate to protect us.UPND pliz dont be tribal.Its working against u.If we start preaching tribalism we will rule 4 ever.We are a gud tribe,u hatres
Iwe Livingstone go to school and learn about languages in Zambia and Africa. Kaunda’s mother tongue is Tonga although he grew up among the Bemba. Chiluba’s mother tongue is Aushi. Sata could be Bemba but as far as I know he is Bisa. The Bisa dont pay homage to Chitimukulu. You want to group them as one so you can bembanise them then tribalise the argument as that is your speciality. If you are what you speak then Iam Zulu, French English Chewa and Bemba. People’s identities aren’t tied to the language they speak. That is a shallow way of looking at things.
A solution to this problem is that we must have a clause in our constitution requiring that all appointments be subject to regional (Provincial) approval. Cabinet can come up with a candidate list from which each province would determine who should get the appointment. This is the way forward if indeed our goal is to balance appointments based on province.
Tribal balancing is the highest form of tribalism and that’s what you are advocating!
PF is a Tribal government. Chapwa! Sata is a tribalist. All his supporters are tribalists! You are very primitive people. You are just upp reborn. You are products of kapwepweism. Kapwepwe’s dream has finally been achieved.
lLivingstone is a Desperate tribalist
Cnp govt indeed.Looks like Pf is the largest opposition party in the country.They still havent woken up to the fact that they are in goverment.
Small minds have filled up the PF government. They are so warped that they would rather investigate the format of the message rather than the contents and debunk them by quoting reality on the ground.
Clear that Lungu is a drop-out focused on protecting the Bemba regime instead of ensuring that the government is based on fairness.
@41. South African (fake one). Kaunda and Sata’s mother tongue is Bemba. In other words my dear fake South African, a mother tongue is what is referred to as someone’s first language. Now have you ever heard Sata speak bisa? There is no such thing as a tribe without a language. That is just bull. S.
Ba Livingi imwe If mothertongue refers to one’s first language then tribalism in Zambia shouldn’t be an issue…. Because plenty of people speak languages that aint theirs. So Sata is not neccessarily being tribalistic but according to your thinking languagistic. The first language I spoke is English but I refuse that to be called my mother tongue. My mother spoke Zulu and Chewa because her parents were from these tribes. My father’s language is Bemba
lol.. This that why you call yourself South African….kekekekeke, but Bembas mulampapisha.
I can call myself anything I want. This is not a forum for m,y true identity. U think bloggers’ names here mean anything? Its up to you. Why everyone who blogs here goes by pseudonyms is because they dont want to be taken seriously.. They wouldn’t say what they say here in their true identities. Why do you identify me only as Bemba? That is a chauvinistic way of looking at things. in the modern era both parents are seen as equals
NOW THIS IS TRULY REVEALING!!! THAT WE HAVE A GOVT WITH NO IDEA ABOUT RUNNING A GOVT OR COUNTRY!!!! INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATING ON DELIVERING WHATS EXPECTED OF THEM, they pre-occupy themselves with what is a political perception, WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY BE OVERSHADOWED IF THIS GOVT WAS PERFORMING WELL; This is how all good intentioned people falter when THEY LOSE SIGHT OF THE BIG PICTURE – the BIG PICTURE , IS THEY WERE VOTED INTO GOVT TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE WHICH BROUGHT TENTATIVE BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE – NOT APPOINTMENT AFTER APPOINTMENT EVERY DAY BREAK!!!!!!!!! Indeed one can’t teach an old dog new tricks!! KK’s press conferences are so ingrained!!!
I agree with u
GUNDIX,
Somewhere above you have said, ‘We can all have our turn to rule the country’, this sounds like the way it should be but Gundix, what do you say about this statement that comes up regularly, ‘Tongas and Lozis will never rule Zambia’ and if they wish to stand any chance ‘they must marry Bemba women’.
where can i find those documents
You’re the fcuking tribalists desperate to protect Sata’s discriminatory policies. You have no decency . You’ve been caught up in your own web of deception. Always bullying and shouting at other peoples imaginary tribalism. Thankfully yours is real. It is not imagined. If is out their and every sane Zambian is talking about.
This drunkard lungu needs some soya porridge, please help him. it is clear the PF govt is tribal, even satana is quiet about it.
Too bad for Zambians,now you have PF,who are even going to be worse than MMD under Chiluba! That’s the price for electing presidents without degrees! Mwanawasa ( God bless his soul) was the only level headed President you ever had…..it pays to think before you cast your vote!
A Gardenboy, now rulling this country, Lord help us. trebled his wages in a year, there are fools who are too stupid to see this than prepare for the Zimbabwe style of GOVT. Zambia is already in the dust bin. Bring back the MUZUNGUS, or we will all perish on the rubbish heap.NO HOPE.
A whole minister telling lies. Hans Poulsen left Zambia in January on his own accord after he resigned from Zamtel.
Edger u are a big fool. U think we shall be cowed by your useless outburst. When God is about to take the throne from u he sometimes Makes u Mad. This is what we are seeing with PF with Edgar being in the forefront of Madness.
Ukwa broke every law in Zambia, he lied to get the Presidency to all of us with his useless 90 days theory. Ukwa has appointed Northerners to key positions. Look at the pipo the same Edgar paraded, Bemba. Atase. Im Bemba but Ukwa driving us into a ditch. I dont support him.
Dear Monk #20, that’s a good question you have asked. The honest answer is that in reality, you are a very lucky person because you are part of all them. I say lucky because sounds like your family is more advanced mentally than some of the primitive tribal trash on this blog. Yours is a rainbow family, and there is strength in diversity simply because the future belongs to those who embrace that. If it was race, your nieces and nephews etc.. would be called mixed race, like Barrack Obama’s kids. So God bless you.
lungu are u normal? how many bembas are in sata’s cabinent? alcoholism has destroyed yo mentality.
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