Rebel MMD MPs say they voted for the removal of Immunity because they are working with Government of the day

1. Asryt ! You have to respect the finger that feeds you, it is the rule of the game.Well done gentlemen.

   • You Know What That Brother !

   • Be-careful,some fingers can feed you with poison. So give respect to the brain because that’s where the medulla obrangata lies.

   • NOT EVEN THAT- BA RB NIBA KABOLALA. HE NEEDS TO BE PROSECUTED FOR HIS BUMAMBALA BWAKE. MPs NEED TO WORK FOR THEIR ELECTORS AND THEIR ELECTORS ARE SAYING WE NEED RB TRIED FOR HIS WRONG-DOING WHILE IN GOVT. CONGRATULATIONS MMD GENTLE AND HONEST MEN AND WOMEN.

   • Useful *****s!

   • Its a no brainer,I did not expect them to vote differently. The lines in Zambian politics are very very blurred. One can expect anyone to join and support the ruling party of the day,anyone! Mostly inspired by poverty and greed.makamaka greed

   • Yes hyenas always help wild dogs to take down an elephant or even king lion, just for the sake of scavenging on bones.

   • At least they voted than frightened opposition little men & women who bolted under the guise of protest when the thief needed the most.

     There are many among frightened angry little men & women in the opposition who feel relieved that they walked out for fear of backlash from their spineless leaders because they have voted in favour of the motion.

     We have a lot of bootlickers among leaders and a few bold ones must be commended.

     Let kabolala RB answer the allegations of thefts & corruption with courage the same way he did when stealing.

   • Exactly. So the moral thing for these *****s to do is resign and join PF. There’s no way they can have two loyalties; not in politics. Political parties have different ideologies. This assertion that development can only go to their areas when they are in government ( PIG by PF’s definition of course) is utter foolishness and intellectual bankruptcy. There’s no way a minister from the opposition party who is bound by the collective responsibility nonsense of government go against the ideologies of his/her own party. This is the reason those of us who say these chaps accepted the appointments for their bellies are justified. The best MMD can do is kick out these chaps and give enough room to PF to expose it’s folly of misplaced priorities.

   • Only as far as ukwa lives.its a pity

   • These men were sincere. Those that boycoted are the ones that nailed RB. It was a foool proof scheme. if they couldnt defend RB in parly how will they defend him now

2. ba swine ba koswee judases

   • At least they think better than you who just wants to insult you docile cocroach

   • Learned, you have really given him a pinch of his own medicine. Kekekekeke! LOLest

3. What are these fools telling us? If that was the reason, then the whole issue is going nowhere. You are such very dull MPs and very stupid at the same time.

   • That is Why You Call Yourself Hynena Without Plan Bro !

   • Iam also called Ukwa if you like it. Iam enjoying myself at State house and anytime soon, I will declare State House as a new district.

   • I have struggled to find a democratic state where opposition MP’s are so attracted to the ruling party in the name of “working with the Government of the day to bring development”. That can’t be democracy at any rate and the are just selfish individuals who align themselves to wherever the belly gets fed. Ruining our democratic gains without shame.

   • Try Lib Dem/Conservatives UK marriage of (in)convenience.

4. We may as well call them ‘Ba Kandile’…………

   • An MP with a very small brain would have said, “That was the right thing to do…”

     Everything else this man said only goes to show that the space between his ears is empty.

5. MMD has refused to repent as such it will never come back.
   Upnd has lost a chance to come out clean by surpoting the past corrupt regime.

   • HH everywhere you go.

6. Nangu nisebana wikute this guys are beyond redemption because they are in parliament not for the electorate but their big appetite for money

   • i meant these

7. well done Forrie Tembo .

   • That thug Tembo, including you and all PF muli bacabecabe bashinka manyela ba swaini.

8. Don’t use that argument? Ever heard of abstaining? Why did GBM, Chikwanda or the Wina abstain? These are cabinet ministers and true PF. As for you chaps, this says more about why you are in that coalition. Who doesn’t know that its all about number one and not you want to work with the government of the day. If we were to ask, todate what policy influence have you had on this PF government? How much more development have you taken to your constituency that you may not have taken had you declined the appointment? Its all about ego, a flag flying vehicle, drivers and all the privileges that you have that dont even trickle down to those who elected you. Shame on you!

   • You have hit the nail on its heard. Well said.

   • @Mfumu, well said, couldn’t have put it better myself. Big thumbs up. What work have any of the MPs from opposition parties appointed to deputy ministerial positions, done, that can be felt by the electorate, the people who put them in parliament in the first place? What “working” for the people comes from being appointed second or third deputy minister in a ministry which doesn’t even need a deputy minister???

     We can see past y’all, just enjoy the luxuries that come with the appointments and stay the Juduses you are, don’t take us for fools and think for a second we’re buying the nonsense you’re selling. Pathetic disgrace of MPs…

9. Call them whatever name, the fact remains that they voted in favour.

   • Your name suggests you are one of the pages in the Post Newspaper.

10. just why I want to be independent and feed myself without depending on others so that I can make my own decisions. Otherwise other people will continue to pull my strings and then i have to continue dancing to their tune.

11. Back stabler

    • You are disgruntled because you benefited on the various campaign materials the thief distributed after plundering our economy.
      Mind you that womanizer banda almost ran away when they went to pick him from the farm! where then did he get money to acquire his haunting wealth? Just wait and see we are yet to marry that ka thandy after all he grabbed from us !

    • Back Stabler finishi…….tawakwata isikulu!!!!!!

12. why then did Hon. Chikwanda, Hon. GB mwamba and Hon Wina vote against despite being full cabinet ministers and founder members of the PF party?

    • Because they too are haunted !

13. this chap is silly..look at his face..you should learn to appreciate..

14. Baby face he looks like inshimu shalimusuma pa menso, that explains why he voted.

15. The state has no credible case against Mr. Bwezani Banda because there are many issues which point to the fact that the state’s evidence before the prosecution fraternity is grossly lucking in nature, thus investigators are consistent on thorough interogations. If one argues that the state had a water tight winnable case against Mr. Banda, then the state would not tolerate this marathone embarrassing fishing expedition. Note that this fishing expedition in the unfishable waters mirrors the so-called professional investigators as small boys and girls in training and attempting to deconstruct the myths of Sata who assigned them pin down Banda on malicious concoctions.
    Removing the immunity is one thing and securing a convinction is s bruising huge mountain to climb whilst relying on myths.

    • Further, finger pointing should not be the cream of the argument but the merits of the so called case are the main ball of contention. The implications of Sata’s interest in this case, simply put, his political ulteria motives and the related issues leading to the probabilities of prosecuting an innocent man should earnestly concern the ‘think tanks’ of the MMD hierarchy not minor issues i.e. disciplinary hearings.
      The defense team must build a defense strategy founded on Sata’s ulteria political motive in that it becomes almost impossible for the presiding judge president at a high court level to reach a vedict in favour of state senior prosecuting advocates. In turn this creates advantages for the senior defense attorneys. Arguments can be highly tedious and burdensome but…

16. MMD has refused to repent as such it will never come back.
    Upnd has lost a chance to come out clean by surpoting the past corrupt regime. UPND is in full surport of the middle finger

17. It is OK, actually they did a good thing. Why focus on trivial things? Give us better news, too much politics in Zambia. Honestly what would you expect from politicians in parliament? For them, the options were either/or, for/against, yes/no. It is OK that immunity was lifted. It gives both sides to establish the truth! Why the qualms? Even some of those who walked out deep down their hearts were in support of the “immunity lifting” motion.

18. Goodness! That is the dumbest thing an MP/Deputy minister can ever say. Are you telling me PF does not have more intelligent MPs to appoint to the positions these chaps have been appointed to??

    Ba Chuzu naimwe, what good leader, does international recognition clear someone of corruption? This is the same person you used to insult day in day out and accuse of corruption. What has changed all of the sudden, no wonder UPND’s accused of lacking principles and firm standing, how can you keep moving to and fro like yoyos, it would have helped you to distance yourselves from the accused corrupt former leader, but no…. If you spoke of him being victimized and other people having ulterior motives behind his persecution, it would have been different, not this rubbish about him being a good…

19. GBM, Chikwanda and Wina abstained. And these are PF Cabinet Ministers and working for the so called government of the day. And as for the MMD sellouts you are neither PF nor Cabinet Members. Anyway a person who calls himself FORRIE must be very dumb!

20. Wankers! you could at least say that you believed he was answerable! Are you a leader surely? You are the one who is supposed to be giving valid reasons for voting as you did, do you even understand the basic tenets of democracy? WTF do you even do in that office of yours you cunts? We who know how to really debate and act are coming to debunk you come 2016 mwanya! Ndine waku’mawa and I find your actions appalling agalu inu.

    • lol… Cool down mate. I share you frustration though.

21. yeah, protect your jobs mwandi. mmd is protecting their criminal rb.upnd is protecting rb to ensure the safety of their criminal UNDER5. Why should these malons cry foul.

22. This is fine and expected.

    • How is it FINE your democracy and freedoms are being butchered and you say it is fine? What is this clown going to do about more pertinent things like the economy if he cant even vote for the right reason, SHAME ON YOU ALL WHO PRAISE THESE FOOLS.

23. I NOW BELIEVE Y ITS A GOVERNMENT OF CHIMBWI NO PLAN. NOT EVEN MY SON CAN THINK LIKE THAT. NJALA YAKUNYOKOLA SO U SUPORT USING YOUR LARGE INTESTINES. MOST OF THESE DEFECTORS CALLED MINISTERS DONT HAVE PLANS FOR THEIR CONSTITUENCIES AND WHEN ASKED Y THEY DEFECTED THEY DONT GIVE TANGIBLE REASONS. Y U NEVER DEFECTED DURING THE TIME U WERE IN MMD? U CHIMBWI NO PLAN FULL OF FAT PA MENSO. START TAKING GIN & TONIC LIKE LUBINDA.

24. Flash Back: The Post Newspaper

    Rupiah has a corrupt mind – Hichilema
    By George Chellah
    Fri 04 Dec. 2009, 04:00 CAT [5128 Reads, 3 Comment(s)] Text size Print

    UPND party president Hakainde Hichilema
    UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema yesterday said President Rupiah Banda has a corrupt mind and therefore has no moral right to talk about the fight against corruption, especially when the powers of the Zambia Public Procurement Authority (ZPPA) have been transferred to State House.

    Commenting on President Banda’s statement that government recognises the need to strengthen the law on assets declaration, forfeiture of proceeds of crime and that of enhancing whistle-blower protection to fight corruption, Hichilema dismissed President Banda’s address to the nation on…

    • Yes he said that and he had a somewhat corrupt mind but things are now clear that he is much better than the current. It actually became clear to HH before elections.

25. on Wednesday to launch the anti-corruption week.

    “Rupiah Banda for me as far as I am concerned has no moral right to talk about the fight against corruption. The conduct of his government has demonstrated that corruption is condoned from the highest office,” Hichilema said. “It’s his office that has transferred the powers of the ZPPA to State House as we have seen in the Zamtel and oil procurement cases.”
    Hichilema said President Banda had absolutely no interest in fighting corruption.

    “What he does is to wear a mask and project to the public that he is fighting corruption when he is doing the opposite. Zambians must not allow Rupiah Banda to change large commodity procurement contracts for personal gain,” he said.
    Hichilema doubted the genuiness of President Banda’s…

26. “He removed former Task Force on Corruption chairman Max Nkole who wanted to appeal (former president Frederick Chiluba’s acquittal). He removed Kapitolo (then director general of the Zambia National Tender Board), so which whistle blower is he trying to protect?” Hichilema said. “A corrupt mind starts by preparing the way. They just look at the current structure, management and when they look at certain officers like Max Nkole, David Kapitolo and Peter Mumba (former energy permanent secretary), he gets rid of them.”

    And Hichilema criticised the recent presidential appointments.
    “Look at what he has done. How many Cabinet ministers are from one region? It’s now jobs for boys and girls, for the relatives, clansmen! This is Zambia, not Gwanda. I hate talking about this because I…

27. talking about this because I have been a victim of tribal hegemony. Certain provinces like Southern Province have no Cabinet minister,” Hichilema said. “There is no single Cabinet minister from there (Southern Province) and you have five ministers and about 14 deputy ministers all from one region and in one place which is part of Zambia you choose not to have a Cabinet minister.”

    Hichilema said President Banda did not know what people were saying on the ground.
    “He is just busy flying around but people are saying ‘there is a corrupt man going’,” he said.
    Hichilema also dismissed home affairs minister Lameck Mangani’s justification of the appointments.

28. “Mangani mentioned me in that but he must not associate me in his dirty tribal mind. Mangani is doing that because of the President’s corrupt mind. This is what a corrupt President can do, especially a visionless President. You know Rupiah Banda is not morally upright with regards to corruption and to talk about corruption” Hichilema said.
    He challenged President Banda to let the oil contract the late president Mwanawasa left to continue.

29. So it means that even when the gov of the day is wrong you have to support them. Wat a stupid reason you are there for checks and balances . On this issue you failed wat did they give any way.

30. “He is trying to change the contract corruptly. We were having fuel flowing smoothly until the greed of that man came in. Leave that petroleum contract just as Mwanawasa left it, if he is fighting corruption,” Hichilema said. “Look at what he is doing at the Judicial Complaints Authority (JCA). I know judge Chulu personally, Prof Mvunga not much but the President appointing them is corrupt. Look at the Chief Justice, the returning officer, Electoral Commission of Zambia (ECZ) and the Judicial Complaints Authority…Rupiah Banda is embarassing people. This is why we are asking for an independent Electoral Commission. He is stuffing people in the Electoral Commission.”

31. Speaking on Wednesday evening in his address to the nation on Zambia National Broadcasting Corporation television to launch the anti-corruption week, President Banda said government would continue to strengthen the anti-corruption institutional framework to address any weaknesses and negative effects of the scourge. He said corruption drained resources from the much-needed investment in health, education, infrastructure and other basic services.
    “Corruption weakens democratic institutions, perverts the rule of law, discourages investment and aid inflows, undercuts public confidence in government, breeds inequality and disenfranchises large segments of the population,” the President said.

    President Banda said pervasive corruption nurtured organised crime, including trafficking of…

32. human beings and drugs, and is associated with money laundering, including illicit international money transfers which can be used to finance terrorist groups.

    He said corruption was a severe obstacle to development and Zambia could not afford to continue tolerating it.
    The President said as Zambia joined the world in commemorating the International Anti-Corruption Day, his administration would remain steadfast in its resolve to rid the country of the vice.

    “In this regard, my government shall continue to strengthen the Anti Corruption Commission and other institutions involved in fighting the scourge. But the fight needs the support of all well-meaning citizens,” he said.
    He said Zambia has continued to place the fight against corruption on top of its agenda.

33. i thought those people were supposed to give advise..but the way he has justified his reason is like if the government told kill they would coz the Govt said so, do not jus vote yes without any reason better neutral if u dont kno anything..u ar jus back stabbers

34. The International Anti-Corruption Day falls on December 9 and this year’s theme is: ‘Your No Counts’.

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    • wow and now ka HH is fully behind RB you see what we keep telling you guys..HH cant be trusted he is in it for himself, saying things just to suit him…if we were to ask him about what he said in 2009 what would his answer be..? i wonder

35. You just voted for your stomachs,albeit under threat,rather than voting principles ,conscience or the rule of law.Even the nazi or southern confederates voted for their govt of the day too but what they voted for was partaking in pure evil.No amount of whitewashing can sanitize this most evil,selfish act.Terrible Tembo.

36. Another Flashback from The Post

    Hichilema insists Rupiah wanted a cut

    Hichilema insists Rupiah wanted a cut
    Written by George Chellah
    Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:19:07 PM

    UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema yesterday challenged the government to arrest him over his statement that President Rupiah Banda (left) wanted a ‘cut’ from the US$ 53 million mobile hospitals deal.

37. Reacting to information minister Lieutenant General Ronnie Shikapwasha’s statement that Hichilema must withdraw his remarks and that the statement, which borders on libel could not go unchallenged, Hichilema said he was ready for the government.

    “I am more than prepared. Nobody would come for me, they must go for 12 million Zambians I am speaking on behalf of. I’m not afraid. You tell Shikapwasha, sometimes he tries to use his big body to threaten people,” Hichilema said.

38. “Before they come for Hakainde they should go and deal with the job losses on the Copperbelt, before they come for Hakainde, they must reduce the mealie-meal prices, before they come for Hakainde they must not feed us with GMO maize. When they have done those things, they will find me waiting for them. If they attempt to come for me, let them do so because the public will be reminded of all this chain of corruption under the MMD and that will help them to be taken out of office quickly.”

    Hichilema said he would continue to speak on behalf of the public.

39. “We will not stop and for your own information, Shikapwasha has no capacity to threaten anybody, myself included. We will speak for the people. Shikapwasha must focuss on serving the people and not threatening the people. The reason why children have no jobs it’s because of behaviour which is corrupt like Zamtel, behaviour which is corrupt like buying mobile hospitals,” Hichilema said.

    He maintained that the government was corrupt.

    • Kajongozi Hichilema, keep posting your post are more interesting am enjoying them. The UPND are now said to be supporting Mr. RB, why? because Zambians forget easily?

    • Keep refreshing us its been too long we forgot what ka HH said a few years back..lol

40. “I put it to the public to judge if someone occupying public office is making decisions against public interests, what should we call that? If you see somebody dishing out mealie-meal and sugar in Katete during a campaign using public resources to advance themselves getting to the presidency, what would you call that?” Hichilema asked.

    • Kanyongozi Hichilema. Can you please bring out more where that came from? You just ade my day. Zambians forget so easily! Zambians do not forget!!! Remind them more. Flip flops in politics is a no no. HH, you are a flip flop, no back bone ukwalola umwela….He;s supporting RB just because he hates PF and NCS with a passion. What a reason from a well educated and rich politician!!! I’d dig a hole and buryy myself if I was HH. HH followers, open your eyes, this guy aint taking you no where. Thanks Kanyongozi Hichilema. Remind them.

41. You are using public money to advance your personal cause, what do you call that? That is corruption. What we are doing is to save the people of Zambia US$ 53 million. If we don’t talk about it, they are going to do it against public interest. I think that is the definition we are putting and I think we are in order to highlight issues.”

    Hichilema said the RP Capital Partners deal was a good example of corruption.

42. “Society objected the Zamtel issue and the person who came out to support Dora Siliya who was wrong and the tribunal has proved… that was the President followed by the Vice-President. Now, who are those? They represent MMD, they represent the government. So holistically, it means that you actually have a rotten team out there that is pursuing personal interests against public interests,” Hichilema said.

43. How will you define a President, a Vice-President who are supporting a minister who was pursuing an agenda which the public did not agree with? Is that not personal agenda? Why should Zambians pay to RP Capital Partners because of the minority interests? That is corruption, that is white-collar crime.”

    On defence minister George Mpombo’s statement that his remarks were an assault on the President’s integrity and borders on defamation, Hichilema said Mpombo was blowing hot air.

44. He tried to talk of privatisation, whose policy was privatisation? Was it Hakainde’s? Was that not an MMD policy? Am I an MMD minister myself? The issue of privatisation was an MMD policy. Can you tell these chaps to stop threatening Zambians because we are not afraid of them.”

    On Wednesday, Hichilema said President Banda and his government should be blamed for the proposed procurement of mobile hospital units from China.

45. But Mpombo on Thursday said Hichilema’s comments bordered on defamation while Lt Gen Shikapwasha advised Hichilema to substantiate or withdraw his statement.

    And UPND spokesperson Charles Kakoma said the tribal sentiments made by their member of parliament for Sinazongwe Raphael Muyanda were his personal views.

46. We did not even know that he was going to say those things. As a party, whereas we support freedom of speech by every member, we think that freedom is limited within the laws of this country. And our laws currently are that we should not say anything that hurt the tribal feelings of other citizens and therefore, as a party, we do not think that attacking Bembas or attacking the Church is the correct thing to do. It is not necessary. We have obviously counselled the honourable member several times. It’s regrettable that he uttered those things. As a party, we would like to distance ourselves from that statement,” said Kakoma.

47. Muyanda on Thursday accused the Catholic Church of dividing the nation, adding that they used Bemba in their English mass in one of the churches in Lusaka at the expense of the majority who did not understand the language.

    • You are a crushing bore noko ichinyoh.you must be some silly thing in pf who thinks he can sway peoples minds by posting a lot of junk.you can’t and you will never.people
      have already made up their minds no more clueless chimpanzees in state house.turning state house into a sick bay no more.HH niwe tulelolela nomba

48. All the MMD MPs serving as Deputy Ministers in their personal capacity as USEFUL HALFWITS are seriously ill-qualified headless snakes to be in politics.

49. “THREE LINE RULE???” WHAT AN EXCUSE TO TRAIT YOUR FORMER LEADER, THEN THE MOTION IS NOT CREDITABLE, SHOWS DULLNESS OF OUR MPs, A CLEAR EXPLANATION THAT LIFT OF IMMUNITY WAS BIAS, WASTE OF TIME AND MPs HAVE NO INTEREST OF THE NATION / ZAMBIAN PEOPLE, BUT THEIR PERSONAL WELL BEING (BAMUSELELA KWAKABA). ZAMBIA WILL NEVER MOVE FORWARD IF THESE ARE PEOPLE WE EXPECT TO LEAD THE COUNTRY. VERY DISAPPOINTED FOR A YOUNG MAN LIKE FORRIE TO BEHAVE IN THIS MANNER. YOU HAVE JUST SHOWN YOUR WEAKNESS TO THE WORLD. WHAT A SHAME THAT YOU SUPPORT ANYTHING TO PLEASE YOUR MASTERS??

50. Forrie…….are you failing to think? I thought you voted for that motion bcoz RB was corrupt and not what you have said.
    We will not trust you,any more……am a PF staunch supporter but your reasoning has really dissapointed me and i dont think such should be MP’s and am sure the big bwana SATA is watching you.
    In short you are telling us that you are not working and supporting the right thing but the Govermnet of the day.Mmmmmm……too dull!!

    • Yes young boy paolo.you are already on the site defeacating.intelligent boy you are,i like the way you toy your pay master’s line.posting poopoo 24/7 .yeah! make your money now coz in 7 months time,the big man is going back to be united with his creator.so there will be no job for you fooool.

51. Just been on the Parliament website to check this MP’s credentials. Wasn’t surprised at what is there. Completed Grade 12 and handful of certificates in this and that which, I suppose only Sata and the PF see great value. That explains his shallow none argument about why he voted with the government. If these chaps were not arrogant, as his constituent member, I would ask the MP, in whose name he voted and inform how his sponsoring party felt. Its high time these people become accountable for their actions. See http://www.parliament.gov.zm -> Find Your MP

    • Be careful – you might be talking about the voters who found them useful to go to parliament… Remember Amsterdam and his “useful…” comment?

52. @Kajongozi Hichilema, sure continue reminding us, we forget easily. Can HH and his minions challenge the above exerpts please.

    • @Kajongozi: is this all in response to the reminders that have gone out on Sata requesting for a medical panel to validate late Mwanawasa’s health status and a daily update on the then presidents health? I guess Hichilema has reasons for his stance.

    • @ Mfumu, I would pay a thousand rebased Kwachas to hear what those reasons are…

53. So if the government of the day asks you to kill your neighbours you will do it? Shame on you especially the MP’ from the East. i hope Sata deals with you good and proper because you are nasty traitors – no back bone, no morals, no principles – atase

54. So forrie is saying those that abstained are NOT working for the government of the day? talk about heightened turn coats that want to eat both sides.

55. Does not matter which party you belong to in Zambia. They are all non aligned, they are a mixed grill: no capitalist, no socialist, no communist, no Hunamist. They all stand in the middle of things. Even the MPs and the electorates are all swingers. They swing wherever the pendulum swings. If you are a looser you will end up loosing more supporters and if you are a winner you will get more supporters. Especially that politics is seen as the major source of income and good life. Only until we come to have many people out of the poverty datum line, when people will loose interest in politics or being used by politicians, the swings will never end. So UPND, MMD, FDD, etc you only have core supporters with you now, the rest are with PF, for everyone knows thats where the cake is.

56. Flashback: The Post
    What UPND Chairman for Elections Ackson Sejani then

    Rupiah is headed for a bad ending, says Sejani
    By Patson Chilemba
    Mon 14 June 2010, 04:50 CAT [4927 Reads, 0 Comment(s)] Text size Print

    RUPIAH Banda will end up more disgraced than Frederick Chiluba, Mapatizya UPND member of parliament Ackson Sejani warned yesterday.

    Commenting on President Banda’s role in the questionable privatization of Zamtel, Sejani warned that the sale of Zamtel would be investigated to its logical conclusion once the PF-UPND Pact assume office

57. He said President Banda had failed to learn from former president Chiluba’s mistakes.
    “He President Banda is going to end up even more disgraced. Yes, because Rupiah Banda now is not only shouldering his own problems but he has taken over the sins of the other people,” Sejani said.

    • I am with you. That is HH. His U turn has dumped my mood because i saw hope in this gentle man but not any more. HIS TRUE NATURE HAS COME OUT

    • Yes young boy paolo.you are already on the site defeacating.intelligent boy you are,i like the way you toy your pay master’s line.posting poopoo 24/7 .yeah! make your money now coz in 7 months time,the big man is going back to be united with his creator.so there will be no job for you fooool.

58. “I have said this before, this cross which Rupiah Banda has assumed, Chiluba’s cross which is laden with political, economic, social sins is heavy for Rupiah Banda to bear. And once we get in government you will know what I am talking about.

59. Chiluba committed a lot of political sins against Zambian people, his maneuvers to undermine constitutionalism through the third term, his plunder of Zambian resources through the cases that are in court, and his dubious acquittal, you can also add the social scandals along his marriage life.”

    Sejani said Chiluba’s sins were now being carried by President Banda and he would have to atone for them.

    “By making Chiluba his consultant, his best friend, his advisor, Rupiah Banda is assuming Chiluba’s sins and he will come to account for all those sins once we get in power,” he said.

    Sejani said in the PF-UPND government no one would intervene to protect plunderers.

60. He said all the plunderers would be investigated and President Banda should not think he is insulated from what is to come.

    Sejani said the corruption that characterized the sale of 75 per cent shares in Zamtel was there for all to see.

    “The privatization of Zamtel was not done correctly. The Dora Siliya and RP Capital saga will still be followed once we get in government. How was RP Capital in the first place brought into the picture? And the amount of money that was paid to RP Capital, really is it something that this economy can stomach?” Sejani asked.

61. “The process of selling companies in Zambia is supposed to be transparent. How transparent was the sale of Zamtel from the beginning up to the end? Was the Zambia Public Procurement Authority involved at one stage or not? Or there were shortcuts that were used? The issues that we raised at that time are still the issues that we are raising up to now.”

    On President Banda’s description of the Zamtel deal as the best compared to any other privatization process carried out in the country, Sejani said the sale was not justified because of the anomalies that characterised the process.

62. It is a big scandal and it is going to come and consume Rupiah Banda. He will be investigated over this. In Tonga we have a saying mulandu tauligwi cucu, even if you commit a crime now, in 40 years that case can still be revisited. It is never eaten by a rat,” he said.

    Sejani said President Banda was following Chiluba’s footsteps.

    “He will only know that he has committed a mistake once we start dealing with him. Sometime back you interviewed me The Post, I told you that Chiluba was Rupiah Banda’s tutor.

63. Now you confirmed that they were consulting Chiluba. So they are following exactly the footsteps that Chiluba followed, and this is where they are going to end up in a ditch,” he said.

    Sejani said the country should be worried about the fight against corruption because it was now dead.

    He said President Banda had abandoned his campaign promises of following on late president Levy Mwanawasa’s legacy.

64. Sejani said President Banda and his colleagues were now hell bent on what they could reap from the country.

    He supported Lubinda’s statement that plunderers deserved to be in prison because they were thieves.

    “A thief is supposed to go to prison so that he is punished and reformed. So that when he gets back he is a better citizen to society,” Sejani said.

    He said the National Anti-Corruption Policy which President Banda and his colleagues kept on boasting about was absolutely lip service.

65. If you are committed to the fight against corruption don’t disturb what the courts are doing. Why did they stop the appeal against Chiluba’s acquittal? Why? Because this country would have learnt, there were many issues that are related to the cases that Chiluba is involved in,” said Sejani.

    “By stopping that process then they have announced to the whole world that nobody is interested about corruption.

    They can pass laws about corruption but that is all…just like many other progressive laws we have in the statute books but nobody is prepared to implement those laws.”

66. Forrie Tembo, Nicholas Banda and David Phiri will easily scoop their seats on the PF ticket. Why are you guys even wasting time? Just resign and join PF. MMD will continue haunting and wasting your time.

67. Kanjongozi Hicilema! It also be very helpful to forward “flashbacks” to his excellency Mr Hicilema. What has made him change so suddenly? I am sure even Mr Banda must be shocked! Is this what we call politics? Dirty Politics? Or mere politicking?

68. This is a real shame for democracy and it renders the whole idea of a people’s representative completely useless. An MP should not vote for or against a motion simply because his party thinks that is good or that is bad. He as a people’s representative must base their judgement of facts and make a decision that is in the best interest of the people. That is why i expect that even in the PF, if some MPs really thought the removal of immunity was not good, they MUST have failed free to vote against it. Shame!

69. Another flash back: Post Newspaper

    Corruption has worsened in Rupiah’s govt – Hakainde
    Written by Chibaula Silwamba and Masuzyo Chakwe
    Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:52:35 AM

    UPND president Hakainde Hichilema yesterday said he misses late Levy Mwanawasa because corruption has worsened in President Rupiah Banda’s government. And Transparency International Zambia (TIZ) president Rueben Lifuka has observed that political will to fight corruption in President Banda’s administration is not as strong as it used to be with president Mwanawasa.

70. Addressing a press briefing in Lusaka, Hichilema said the MMD was inherently and endemically corrupt.

    “All these changes to the public procurement Act were purely to camouflage, the intention was ultimately that will allow them to procure government [goods and services] in a corrupt manner,” Hichilema said.

71. “If you allow a government in your country during daylight to make such changes and you are quiet, then you are an accomplice to corruption. That is why you have seen the perpetuation of scandals. I think as an opposition leader I used to criticise Levy Mwanawasa; I miss Levy Mwanawasa as I stand here today. Corruption has worsened and it has become institutionalised through various forms.”

    • HH today says “muntu amupasa power, mulekeni muntu”. ha ha. And someone should tell HH to speak in english, he looks so silly speaking nyanja!!! HH 2016 my foot. Mulekeni muntu na RB wake!

72. Hichilema charged that the MMD government changed the public procurement Act in preparation to run a corrupt government.

    He explained that the draft public procurement bill, which was agreed upon by all stakeholders had safeguard measures to prevent corruption but the government last year changed it.

73. “They decided amongst the things they wanted to do; I want to show you how this government crafts a change and sometimes goes to Parliament using the arrogance of numbers to pass an Act preparing for corrupt activities. They decided to change the governing board; stakeholders had said they would want a board of nine and a third of the board members coming from the private sector – independent citizens of different professions,” Hichilema said.

74. The MMD decided to increase the number phenomenon and brought about a governing board consisting of the minister of finance as chairperson, four ministers appointed by the President, one of whom shall be the vice board chairperson, preparing to run a corrupt government. Only two people from the private sector and the rest are from within the government. It’s a huge mistake and it went through.”

75. Hichilema urged members of parliament to repeal the public procurement Act of 2008 and replace it with one, which would uphold acceptable standards and principles of public procurement.

    Hichilema cited the RP Capital and Zamtel saga in which former communications and transport minister Dora Siliya was involved as one of cases of bad procurement process.

76. “It was done because of corruption; it was because of an intention to get a cut that is why it was done. I ask Dora Siliya, I ask the Vice-President [George] Kunda who protected Dora Siliya and President Rupiah Banda to pay back the US $ 2 million that they authorized the RP Capital deal,” Hichilema said.

    On the Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) maize, Hichilema said President Rupiah Banda suggested that Zambians reconsider GMO food because of his relatives who were involved in the deal.

77. “[The late president] Levy Mwanawasa and the country had agreed that we are not ready to consume GMO maize for health reasons and when this matter came, who answered to support GMO maize? It is the President [Banda]. The President said let us review the consumption of GMO maize when the maize was already in the country and he went to suggest that can we create milling companies at the borders so that we can mill the maize at the borders,” Hichilema said.

78. “That is why I said the President comments on maters where he has personal interests and possible gain.”

    He also said politicians in the government had no moral right to stop corruption because they were corrupt themselves.

79. “Reported theft of public funds in the Ministry of Health, yesterday’s Post. Thefts of public funds are becoming a daily occurrence because the civil servants are seeing what the politicians are doing at the top,” Hichilema said. “The politicians have no moral right to tell civil servants not to steal because the politicians are the ones perpetuating corruption. “

    • This should now make the people realise that when we talk about Hichilema being driven with bitterness, envy and jelous against His Excellency Michael Chilufya Sata, this is what we mean. The chap has done a 360 degrees U-turn just because Sata defeated him lamentably and just because he comes from a tribe this foool hates with a passion

    • Thank you for reminding foolish zambians and Mr Ha Ha.

    • We don’t care about HHv’s turning around,we have not entrusted him with the fate of our lives yet,the liar we want to sort out is the dying man in state house.before he departs we want him to answer some serious questions of why he lied to us that he will better our lives yet he meant his life and that of his cronies.anyway let him die so that we quickly forget about him

    • Yawn yawn yawn … Aaaaa.. boring archivist. You belong to the species of political dinosaurarus.

    • Yawn yawn yawn … Aaaaa.. boring archivist. You belong to the species of political dinosaurarus. And your rebel MP looks like an oily “chitumbuwa”.

    • @ Kajongozi Hichilema, seems you are very good at digging information from the archives, how about you go and dig some information on what Sata said about….. well just everything he’s u-turned on, from cutting down on cabinet, to so many other things I can not go into.

80. food for thought.
    Zambians lets not forget that easily on how RB behaved in power…and these are grown men behaving like adolescents.

81. It is unfortunate that there is finger pointing now , the people who caused this are MPs who boycotted the debates and did not vote because if their had participated and voted the scenerio would have been different PF would have failed to get above 90 votes to push the motion through. Eg if 48 boycotted + 87 present gives as 135 and two thirds of 135 is 90. So the MPs who boycotted wanted the immunity to be removed because if they had remained in parliament the motion would have not gone through.

    • That is exactly why observers are condemning the whole process. It was like an ambush, a calculated move whose motion was presented on the last day when the proposer of the motion knew the numbers of MP’s in the house, especially opposition MP’s were out of “coverage area”. Why do you think PF had to fly in the Livingstone MP to Lusaka just a few hours of announcing his victory for swearing. All just to have the votes go their way. Then Matibini has his knickers in a twist by claiming that the High Court has no jurisdiction over the house in one breath and yet listens to the High court when expelled MP’s have their cases in the High Court? Why the haste?

82. Folly, I for one can support RB’s removal of immunity owing to the fact that Kaunda went through the same, so as chiluba, had it not been for death, Mwanawasa would have gone through the same. So there is no point of leaving RB since even the current President (Sata) shall go through the same path. Please dont show us your lack of education. Next time we vote for MP’s lets look at their credentials and what they have contributed to their constituencies voluntarily. For sure this country has gone to the DOGS!!

83. These Mps remind me of a Chichewa/chinyanja saying which goes: Ma Mps amene ali ngati mbalame yochedwa khope imene imalondola kumene kwakunthila mphepo. These Mps are like that bird called Khope that follows the flow of the wind. Kodi ambwana, a Rupiah Banda aipa lero? Si amene awa amene anali kudya nawo a Banda? Munthu ndi wacabe, do not trust such people next time….. they can change like Cameleons(bilimankhwe, a Lumvwi)

    • Osavutika, “tsiku lakufa anyani, mitengo imatelela.” Tsikulo lilinkudza lomwe ankhwele onse awa adzafa (these traitors). For all bemba speakers refer to “ubusiku balinokushama aba ama MP, nechimbala cikabocha.”

84. Kajongozi Hichilema, well done for reminding us how convinced HH & most of his henchmen where of RBs’ corrupt activities! Have they learnt something that the rest of us don’t know or as Milupi has stated in todays’ post, do they lack principles to the point of going to bed with the devil himself if it will to serve their selfish interests?
    I am truly disappointed in the UPND over the matter of RBs’ removal of immunity and prosecution for his wrong doing. The statement by Forrie Tembo, however leaves a lot to be desired for am MP. He should have only voted if he is as convinced as I am over RBs’ corruption.

85. Can someone shade more light on this issue i thought by lifting the immunity of our dear former republican president was ok in the sense that it will accord him chance to clear his name from these corruption aligation. Hence i found hon F.Tembo and hon Banda Nicholas to be the true friends to RB than mmd provicial chairman Alexanda Miti who is ploting a disciplinary action against the mmd parliamentarians who have done a wonderful job.Why do you Miti want RB to continue enjoy immunity when people suspect wrong doing let the big man clear his name full stop. Mr miti maybe u chewed together soon or later the law will visit u in famous kapata compound.

    • I have no quarrels with removing RB’s immunity but there is a laid down process that needs to be followed especially when embarking on an issue that borders on constitutionality. The argument here is not whether these two deputy ministers did what was right or wrong. We are looking at his argument of voting with the government he is serving under as the reason he voted to remove RB’s immunity. We are countering that by citing how full cabinet ministers and PF members saw it fit to defy the same government they serve under. The MP would have been alittle bit more convincing if he gave us why it is that they felt on principle it was the right thing as some one has put it that RB has his chance to rebuff these allegations.

86. Misery is coming on these fools door steps.it will be like this, 2013 sata is either dying or he will throw in a towel,2014 elections.HH will win and mmd will swing the axe the fools will be chucked out and matibini will dance to the new tune. And it will be the end of their political career.nimbwa baffikala aba no skopo.

    • Koma dracula you and HH have sleepless nights about MCS. Even if what you are talking about happened, it is not HH who can take the mantle my friend. At the rate you guys are going, I cannot see HH and all you minions reaching even 2014. Either your leader of one or more MPs will kick the bucket. I am a male nurse, come for blood pressure check up. Please comment on what @Kajongozi Hichilema is talking about if you are man/woman enough.

    • And what makes you think you will be here forever? U think people that died in postbus were stupid and u r clever? U might go tomorrow, no one knows. U might be crashed by a comment just after u post ur comment on LT. Grow up. What u wish others is what comes ur way.

    • Sata is resisting a medical panel and yet he was in the forefront demanding that Levy be subjected to one. Bunda bwakulanda fye to attract attention. Now the spot light is on you. Please can the true Michael Sata stand up?

    • @ KAPOKOLA
      Billionaire sakufa monga bene ukwa boyi.we are still healthy we have never abused our lives olo tinkale na ma billion boyi.noti bene ukwa just being a governor kuchinda matero yonse ni so chabe.so ise tikachilipo boyi.come 2016 ni trillionaire viva HH.

87. Its amazing how easily Zambians forget…the very reason we have Sata in Plot One is we all felt RB and his minions where robbing the nation and even the devil we knew Sata become a better looking option! but today RB is a saint that should go scotch-free…HELL NO!!! Sata will get his turn too if his stealing but for now let RB play for his sins its his poor management of the state that opened the door for PF…the poor performance of PF govt is not a “get outta jail free card” neither should accepting losing election be the benchmark for great African Leadership…ata we alt be ashamed!!!

88. moderating my comment na nomba…come on LT!

89. Forrie should have kept quite rather than disgrace himself in this way. He is a judas , no two ways about it. What can you expect from a bother going by the name of Forrie? Just the name speaks volumes.

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