Government has said that the issue of the Barotseland Agreement of 1964 will be resolved once President Edgar Lungu assents to the Constitution Bills Parliament passed recently.
Chief Spokesperson Chishimba Kambwili said that as far as government is concerned, once the Constitution Bills become law, Barotseland will continue to remain an integral part of Zambia.
Mr. Kambwili stated that this was particularly that no one submitted to the contrary that Barotseland remains part of Zambia during the Constitution review process.
Mr. Kambwili told Qfm News by telephone that this entails that the Barotseland Agreement of 1964 is no longer an issue.
Mr. Kambwili however, noted that what the people of Western province want is a fair share of the national development agenda.
Mr Kambwili said that the Patriotic Front (PF) is in this case committed to taking development to Western province as a sure way resolving the Barotseland Agreement issue.
Why speak on behalf of the people of Barotseland?
Its 1 zambia 1 nation. Only UPND can divide it. That’s y HH is rejected
Western Province has been a hot article for a long time.
As for development in that area, I ask the brothers and sisters that come from that part if the country to make an effort to invest to their home land.
We have a lot of Lozi Rich Folks living in cities, some who have not even stepped a foot in western province. They really don’t care about making a difference or developing the area. But are the first ones to cry that the area gas been neglected.
If you look at Kasama & Chipata, you get to see a lot of people who originate from these places, going back to invest and contribute to development.
Take the Chipata Chamber of Commerce ( CCC );Â it has worked hard over the decades with business people to engage in development. The Asian Community has also contributed a lot to…
…. The Asian Community has also contributed a lot to Chipata. As a matter if fact, Chipata is the most developed Provincial HQ, though Solwezi is now over taking it slowly because of the mines.
So all those Rich Lozi Tycoons, take a step and work with the government to develop the area. Start feeling proud developing your own areas. Charity begins at home.
I speak as a half Lenje & Soli who started my teaching career in Chipata before I changed to become a Building Architect in the UK working in the Public Services.
Kambwili is a FOOL who knows NOTHING about contract and international law.
This FOOLISH Kambwili has NO right to speak for the people of Barotseland. Barotseland is a Nation whether Kambwili & his PF minions like it or NOT.
As for those in denial, watch as over 27 African countries acknowledge Barotseland as a nation & more than 20 international states.
Kambwili & visionless are very useless, doesn’t know anything whatsoever about law of treaties, best they shut up!
The Skeleton Key
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Viva Barotseland. Tukongote Litunga Ni Lyetu.
Don’t take it on Kambwili.
He is talking on behalf of the government’s position. He is a Spokesperson and does not need to be an expert on the subject matter. He is just delivering the message as his job title says.
What happened to thinking in Zambia. Aiiiish!
Just so you are aware, once treaties have been signed, they are there forever. Ask Canada and Australia they will tell you that treaties signed between the British and aboriginal nations are centuries ago are still valid. Sata understood the issue of Barotsand well and all who love Sata should do the same.
He is speaking on their behalf cos barotse land is part of Zambia.
He is speaking on behalf of barotseland cos it’s part of Zambia
Precisely my thoughts Lucy. How could Kambwili who has poor knowledge of history be an expert on the Barotse issue.
Precisely my thoughts Lucy. How could Kambwili who has poor knowledge of history be an expert on the Barotse issue?
Kambwili should hold his basket ,mouth please. i wonder why this man is still the chief GRZ spokesman. it best
Hon Kambwili is spot on. Barotse is buried and never an issue. Am prepared to listen id first am told how parts in Angola, Botswana and Namibia and Zimbabwe will be reclaimed before you talk about the so called parts in Zambia. What a fuss.
2016 come but we want August so that the opposition tests their popularity otherwise one will be retired permanently even if they registered kids to boost their numbers. 50 plus 1 will choke them.
What this Kambwili clown and other fairies think in their constitution is not Barotseland Voice. I thus tally in thought with Lucy, Living Legend and Stan.
Ati what!!!! Sometimes you think some of these people are aliens. Not like from from another country but another planet. If they had approved the clause of provincial assemblies maybe I would have agreed with him. But what is in the amended constitution that will make the issue of the Barotseland Agreement go away?
Careful Hon Kambwili. People died over their beliefs on this issue. Don’t be so casual about it. This issue remains and your not a compete authority to issue such statements.
@Lucy tawakwata mano,, hes speaking as govt not as an individual……and by the way why shud we have a divided zambia??? all tribes can claim to seperate from zambia especially the kingdoms….. and even then in my opinion it wud be so superior for the lozis and so inferior for the surrounding tribes… pls lets be careful weneva we debate on this issue….. ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION
useless minister of misinformation and mischief government spokes person, your head will dissappear in the neck, so careful
This Chimbwili thing eish. Look carefully at its posture and countenance or disposition, isn’t it like that of one sitting on his faeces. He knows nothing and understands nothing. Oh what a creature!
Barotse Buffalo#
And when you take that route, then Kambwili looks more intelligent than you. And you are at a lose.
What you say; documents a lot about how frustrated, looser and waste of space you are.
Rise up. Debate. Do Better. Put Your Points Across.
HH has finished drafting his retirement letter. The leaked letter which reads ” I wish 2 thank my blind sapotaz n fetha apologize for my failures despite having successfuly mislead you all. I regreat having rejected the pact with HE MC Sata the late MHSRIP. To HE EC Lungu my president, I wish u took me as ranng mate. Am now forced to go into retirement koz i have have failed.Enough is enough”.4 further details visit http://www.finishedHH/retirement.
One Zambia one nation
Foolish Kambwili,
Barotseland is a Nation whether you and your PF minions like it or not.
Viva la la la land of Barotseland.
Tukongote Litunga Ni Lyetu.
The Skeleton Key
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Woooooo!! Fo unyelezi!!
SES ASSOCIATES #
You are right. Even Mongu in Western Province had more Asian business people in the 70’s. But they ran away because of Tribalism.
Clearly you have very little understanding of history of Zambia. Anyway since you have cited tribalism, what tribes are the asians who left Barotseland because of tribalism?
Barotseland will remain Barotseland.
Barotseland is Barotseland to its people. Everything else is fake and impractical. Before Cecil Rhodesia was born, Barotseland had a functioning government. It is utter stupidity and foolishness to think that a binding treaty can be flushed down the toilet just like that. Barotseland has a valid case.
it remains barotse and a part of zambia…period
The ostrich remains burying its head in the sand, shouting to be heard by those who refuse to understand that Zambia itself did not exist until the equation:
Northern Rhodesia + Barotseland = Zambia
So to continue to do anything while operating under the name Zambia is to acknowledge the original equation which came with an agreement that is being pissed on from a very high place. One cannot just bury head in sand spouting constitution and believe it has been resolved. The abrogation simply put Barotseland on the UN list of unrepresented nations and people alongside Taiwan, Tibet and amusingly enough District of Columbia in the USA.
If Barotseland was a functioning government even before Cecil Rhodes was born, why wasn’t developed? The reason is simple, the money was being looted by that stinking and filthy Litunga who was using part of the loot to wipe his behind.
Interesting theory. So whose behinds were wiped when the Bank of Barotseland post independence ‘placed’ millions of pounds in to the ‘Zambian’ coffers never to be seen again with our leader making it clear Western province would not be developed during his reign? Ordering the closure of airports, hospitals etc. was like reverse development, not so? And how developed was any part of Africa by the western standards you desire circa 1850?
Our coloniser only introduced electricity and indoor plumbing, national health etc en masse post world war 2 and copper played its part in both bullets and electrification but let’s ignore we had cultural development milestones and continue to sling tribal mud at each other and rape our national economies. That way pronouncements like this sound…
Ignorance is a curse for sure! Who built Barotse National School (BNS) in 1907? Who built Lewanika Hospital in 1923? Who initiated the protection of our Copperbelt from the invading Belgians? When the first European settlers set foot on Barotseland their observation was that the administrative system they found in Barotseland could not be matched by any other establishment they had come across in region at that time. King Lewanika went on to be invited to witness the coronation of King Edward VII of UK in 1902 that in itself speaks volumes of what he was able to achieve in his era.
Please be civil. What type of a human being are you?
We have endured insults and discrimination for over half a century, what are a few more insults and a few more months
If Barotseland is not part of Zambia, are all those Lozi intellectuals, doctors, business men, teachers, farmers, even marketeers and street vendors (kikikiki) who have invested and reside in Lusaka and other parts of Zambia, foreigners in the rest of Zambia? Ask them, they will probably propose a referendum to remain in Zambia..
Think man think, don’t be like UPMD cadres, who have agreed collectively not to put their intellect to good use.
The Barotse agreement is what made them Zambians. The only difference is there is genuine pride in the route of transition from Barotseland and a lot of angst from those who were formerly Northern Rhodesian and particularly their leader who imposed one party state and abrogated the agreement. Or did we miss the referendum in which all former Northern Rhodesians agreed to reject the amalgamation of territories? Britain won’t take you back but Barotses will always have a home within Zambia and that’s actually healthy. All tribes should hold pride in their history, achievements and ultimately the ability to co exist together as Zambians. The Lozi peoples were needed to make Zambia happen and punishing them for coming to the table is ignoring the circumstances of our birth. Your referendum…
@skeleton you are right barotseland remains a nation just like the Tonga nation, the bemba nation etc but they are not nation states. They are nations without a state. Go and understand the difference between nation and state. We should change Kaunda Moto from one Zambia one nation to one Zambia one state because there are many nations within Zambia
Zambia, Backwards Never! Forward Always!
Agreed. Equal share and access to national wealth for ALL Provinces is a must to keep peace in Zambia. This has indeed been the desire of the people, which HH has misrepresented.
The fact is that the Barotseland issue, has been misrepresented for personal gain as UPND Party Policy. To gain enough supporters and be a viable Party this nonsense was exhumed from its grave and resuscitated to give life to a lifeless Party. Lifeless is what Zambia will become if we give in to Tribalism. Zambians need to watch out for hateful Agenda from selfish Politicians that put their ambitions over the Lives of Citizens.
You the so called opposition guys, y don’t you give solutions unlike criticism all the time. More over y divide Zambia?
LIKE IT OR NOT THE PEOPLE OF BAROTSELAND HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE IS TO LET THE PEOPLE OF BAROTSELAND ON THIER OWN CHOOSE THIER FUTURE. MAJORITY OF THEM FEEL CLOSE TO AND WANT TO CONTINUE BEING PART OF THE GREATER ZAMBIA. THE GOVERNMENT IS DEALING WITH THE ISSUE WRONG WAY. BEING DISMISSIVE AND DISPERAGING ONLY CREATES MORE ANTAGONISTS. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE NOTION THAT MOST SUBJECTS OF BAROTSELAND WANT TO SECEDE. LETS GET TOGATHER AND DETERMINE TWO THINGS ONE THE TERRITORY THAT IS CONSIDERED BAROTSELAND AND THE PEOPLE CONSIDERED TO BE SUBJECTS OF THAT TERRITORY. ONCE WE ESTABLISH THAT THEN WE CAN LET THOSE PEOPLE DETERMINE IN A REFERENDUM IF THEY WANT TO REMAIN AS PART OF ZAMBIA ONCE AND FOR ALL. MOST WILL NOT CHOOSE SECESSION…
Only an Illiterate fool could make fun of the Barotse issue, anyway, when Kaunda made sure to delete anything related to Barotse sovereignty and intimidate the Lozis who spoke of it or mention anything to do with the agreement, our parents never ceased to educate us concerning the matter.
To top it up, there is no way you can mention anything concerning the BA of 1964, when you have the Lozis appearing in court over the same and you mention say “no one opposed otherwise about Barotse seceding” seriously Kambwili you mouth will get you into trouble one day, and mostly you fellow cabinet member have come to realize what a loose mouth you are…
An what is the point bwana Kambwili? Barotseland like any other kingdoms in Zambia existed even before the colonial era. Since independence we all agreed and assented to a unitary state (Zambia). So the signing of the amendment bill does not have anything to do with any agreements prior to independence.
Either Mr Kambwili is poorly advised or he may have little knowledge about the BA of 1964.
How could he honestly say the Constitution Amendment Bill has nullified anything and everything to do with the BA’64? Apparently because no allegedly made any submission about Barotseland separating from Zambia. Is he for real? Why then are many Barotseland nationals facing trumped up treas0n charges? Maybe the people in jail were never given the opportunity to make submissions. But any Lozi would definitely likely have made submissions.
2nd the fact he thinks BA’64 is about secession indicates little understanding of the issue by the govt. Neither was it ever about economical development, although this enhanced the frustrations of the people.
BA’64 is much older than the PF govt and I…
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BA’64 is much older than the PF govt and I doubt they will manage to make it disappear overnight by cheap rhetoric.
What they need is an informed and honest approach to the issue and come up with fair solution. Failure to which, this issue may boomerang in their face one day and they will rue missed opportunities. Even just an acknowledgement and recognition in the new amended constitution, followed by said massive infrastructure development would be a good start that may calm some people.
Comment:barotseland will never be stolen from the lozis, 51 years of trial and error but still using the same failed methods.U CAN not CANcel/anull an International treaty using Local laws.its abreach of an international treaty.BA64 was a unity treaty not adevelopment treaty.too much misinformation…there is No zambia without BA64 but only Northern Rhodesia and Barotseland as separate states.BA64 birthed zambia in 1964.That’s the foundation.without BA64 Zambia has no base /foundation.Zambia celebrates founding father(some) and never celebrates its founding nations.No sense of pride in true History ,what alost people.
The last time I was in Western Province, all I could see was part of the Zambezi river on its way to the ocean and the rest of the dominated by poor soils mainly sandy in nature.
Have some of these UPND chaps been to Northern, LUAPULA, Muchinga, Eastern and Central Provinces to see how rich they are but yet the natives from there embrace everyone? Well 2016 is here, we will teach HH a good lesson to go with in his casket. We have not forgotten what he did in January 2015!