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Christians for Lungu claim that they have been misunderstood

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Dr Liya Mutale speaking at the launch event
Dr Liya Mutale speaking at the launch event

The recently formed Christians for Lungu grouping says most people have misunderstood the group’s objectives.

Group Chairperson Dr Liya Mutale said most people have misunderstood the name “Christians for Lungu” to mean “Christians of Lungu”.
Dr Mutale said the word “for” is only a preposition which is also an antonym for the word against.

“Therefore, Christians for Lungu remains a statement which the group has embraced because it espouses their mandate for being a Christian fraternity of professionals and politicians who are “for” (as in support of) Lungu,” Dr Mutale said.

“The bible says, “They that are for us are more than those who are against us.”

Dr Mutale said presidential Leadership is in phases adding that in this phase President Lungu is the president of Zambia but that his time will come to an end and when it does someone else will take over the mandate and they will need the same kind of support, guidance, and cooperation from mature, spirit filled, ordinary Christians.

“It is important to understand that the main objective of Christians for Lungu is to bring love, peace, integrity, and Christian values into in the political party,” she said.

Dr Mutale said politics is a dirty game because for years’ people have insisted on keeping God and Christians out of politics.

“But if we want to end tribalism, violence, anarchy, insults, poverty, and corruption, then it will be imperative to allow Christians to unashamedly participate in politics without hiding their Christian identity,” she said.

She added, “Also worth noting is the fact that the title is not “CHURCH FOR LUNGU” as this will be an utter theological and moral error. But the title is Christians for Lungu because it immediately appeals to individuals who are Christians and support President Lungu to do so openly irrespective of the denomination.”

This weekend, President Edgar Lungu attended the Christians for Lungu mobilization conference at the Mulungushi Conference Center in Lusaka under the theme Understanding the mind of God over Zambia.

In his speech, President Lungu appreciated the initiative called “Christians for Lungu” for the decision to heed the call that he made on 2nd November 2015 for Christians to come and participate in politics to bring peace and love in the political arena.

He said he was reliably informed that the membership of the initiative spreads across inter-denominations, professional bodies, the young and the old, of like-minded Christians who want in one way of the other to be a part of the governance of this country.

The conference was attended by Patriotic Front Mobilization Committee Chairperson Ambassador Charles Banda, among other senior party members as well as the group Christian for Lungu and some clergy.

President Lungu with Dr Liya Mutale arriving at the launch event
President Lungu with Dr Liya Mutale arriving at the launch event
President Lungu at the launch event
President Lungu at the launch event

52 COMMENTS

  1. CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A PUBLIC DISPLAY OF BELIEF. ATI CHRISTIANS FOR LUNGU? HOW CAN ONE BE CHRISTIAN AND IGNORE ALL THE SUFFERING THAT THE COUNTRY IS GOING THROUGH? THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PROPAGANDIST GROUPING OF PHARISEES THAT DONT CARE FOR THE PEOPLE. WHILE THEY DINE WIRH LUNGU.STUDENTS AT UNZA AND CBU ATE STARVING.NHA WORKERS NOT PAID. MAYBE THIS DR WHOEVER CAN CONVINCE LUNGU TO TO UR UTH FOR HIMSELF. LUNGU HAS TIME FOR THESE DINNERS BUT WON’T TOUR UTH. VERY CHRISTIAN INDEED.
    THIS YEAR PF KULONGA
    UNO MWAKA NI VOTE WISE.

    • Already your quotation of “those against us are fewer than those for us” is divisive. If you want to promote peace why not be for all Zambians despite our diversity. We are a multiparty democracy afterall. But then again ma’am we remember one divisive “Rev” Edith Mutale. Your relative?

    • THEA MAJORITY OF THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED A GREAT DEAL BY LUNGU’S LACK OF VISION AND DISCIPLINE WHICH HAS RESULTED INTO THE CORROSION OF THE COUNTRY’S ECONOMY. LUNGU HAS DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE HE HAS NO SKILLS ON HOW TO MANAGE A COUNTRY AS A HEAD OF STATE. LUNGU HAS ALLOWED THE COUNTRY’S ECONOMY TO BE PLUNDERED. HOW CAN ZAMBIANS VOTE FOR SUCH AN INCAPABLE PERSON, AS THOUGH THE COUNTRY HAS SHORTAGE OF MAN POWER?

    • Why not be forthright and state the obvious? You are Bembas and Easterners for Lungu. There’s nothing Christian about you.

    • Like someone said it below, these are “Christians” for PF. I even doubt they are true Holy Ghost filled Christians with proper discernment.

    • The truth is Dr Nawa is a desperate fellow, she and her husband Gen Mutale (rtf) have been destitute ever since they came back from their diplomatic posting. They have no fixed above and evicted from house to house. Dr.Nawa has put up a flowery CV online when facts are that she has failed to get a job because of gross incompetence.

    • Christians for Lungu is there to defend him against political abuse by UPND and its cohorts and fanatic supporters.

    • These “Christians of Chagwa Lungu” are really taking the mickey of the MAJORITY UNEDUCATED ZAMBIANS by now TRYING TO TEACH THEM the COMPLEXITIES OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE – enter “Antonym” – explain that in Nyanja, bemba, Tonga,Lozi & 68 other languages!!!
      Now the interesting thing is “Dokotor Liya” has really understood the “big” word she is using – because neither “of” or “For” connote anything “Against” what they stand for – this is the problem when govts seem to profit from illiteracy – they can’t string up a point – it all gets lost in translation!!

      #chagwamustfall!! Vote wisely 11/8/2016!! Vote Zambia Forward!!

      I thank you!!

    • “Desheti” Am also seemingly crooking my english, problem of associating with the uneducated masses – meant to say: “has Dokotor Liya, really understood the “big” word she is using??

  2. “The bible says, “They that are for us are more than those who are against us.” 1 KINGS 3 vs. 5 the lord appeared to him {Solomon (Lungu)} in the dream and asked him; what would you like me to give you? Vs 9 give me wisdom to rule your pipo (Zambians). The lord was pleased that Solomon ( Lungu)had not asked for riches (like HH and GBM) I will give you what you have asked for. Chapter 5 Solomon (Lungu) prepares to build the Temple while HH built himself a very big house. Come August 11 Solomon (Lungu) as indicated in chapter 6 is coming to build the Temple. Solomon’s enemy starts with HA (1 Kings 11:14-16) and lungu’s enemy starts with HA. Will the Edomites (UPND) and their leader (HA) win in 2011?

    • Or maybe God gave HH wisdom to build a flourishing business, and is now ready to let him apply that same wisdom to the benefit of the whole nation. Then what???

    • So brain washed. God is for all so do not present him as capable of taking sides in a multiparty democracy. If it were so, then God should have stood in the way of the plural politics revolution of the 1990s. Actually there is a lot of idiocy in the way Christianity is administered in Africa. It is simply a prototype of blame games and witch craft and witch hunting.
      Pretenders like TB Joshua and others take advantage f people’s fear and respect for God. They then paint their friends as the anti-Christ in a game of football or politics. It is so absurd.
      God is not dressed in PF Green you fools, nor is he shocked that even HH and UPND supporters have also been made in his image!

    • 0 likes and am the 10 unlike…. SEE FOR YOURSELF, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AGAINST YOUR EVIL SCHEMES!

  3. So in short, it’s a partisan campaign group specifically for Lungu! No one has stopped Christians from participating in politics. We have notable Christians like Nevers Mumba and Frank Bwalya who are openly in politics, show me how these two Christians have brought morality, descency to politics!!!!

    • Yes she is looking for another job from ECL. She is currently a member of the fundraising subcommittee of the National House of Prayer. Please be warned your contributions/money for the construction of the so called National House of Prayer may be diverted for such useless campaigns. Christians for Jesus not for ECL, total blasphemy.

  4. Whether Christians of or for Lungu is a use-les.s group. I wonder what the Christ would do if he attended their meeting? Your Bible tells us that Chrrist said to loved our enemies as ourselves which KK wamuyaya preached. but what has your Lungu donwe? He has brought much bloodshed thru his cadres and PF police.

  5. Madam Liya just pay back the CEEC Money you got and ran away to the States instead of seeking shield in this “movement”…… You see that is the problem with most of these people masquerading to be for Lungu this and that….. its all about Patronage and Kudya

  6. Christians should be seeking Gods face to advise on who to elect not necessarily who to support. I think this has the potential for bad because very soon Christians will be divided as a group will be formed ..christians for HH Christians for Miles etc etc There best would have been to form a group, Christians for Moral Leadership. That way morally upright men and women would have moved to stand with the group regardless of their political affiliation. An NGOCC of some kind that will support political candidates with a strong Christian stance.

  7. These are probably christians whose consciences are shredded and have no feelings for the welfare of their neighbor but themselves.

  8. Which genuine Christian can support a President and a party that has caused so much suffering to God’s people! This grouping belongs to the category of FALSE PROPHETS and must just be seen as a desperate attempt by PF to use Christians to remain in power even when it is clear that Mr. Edgar Lungu and PF have caused excessive suffering for the ordinary citizens! PF must go!

  9. What do they make of Christians who don’t support Lungu? They are trying to bring division in the church. Does it mean if you are Christian, the only candidate you can vote for is Lungu? It seems this confusion they wanted to bring has somehow backfired on them. It’s nothing but cheap talk for those with expensive ambitions.

    • I THINK WHAT THEY MEAN IS CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FOR LUNGU. MEANING OTHER CHRISTIANS CAN BE FOR HH, CHANDA, MAGANDE ETC. BUT THESE ONES ARE PROUDLY LUNGU’S. OF COURSE I DONT THINK IT IS RIGHT TO GO THIS WAY. BECAUSE THIS IS OPEN DISPLAY OF DIFFERENCES AMONG CHRISTIANS. I THINK AS CHRISTIANS WE SHOULD NOT RALLY BEHIND A PARTICULAR CANDIDATE CORPORATELY. LET IT BE AT INDIVIDUAL LEVEL. BUT AS A CORPORATE BODY OF BELIEVERS WE SHOULD RISE ABOVE PARTISAN POLITICS. INSTEAD CHRISTIANS MUST BE ABLE TO ADVISE REBUKE, TEACH LUNG, HH, CHANDA, MIYANDA ETC AND ALL ERRING POLITICIANS WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. I THINK WE MUST BE HAVING PRAYER MEETINGS TO PRAY FOR LEADERS IN THE RULING AND OPPOSITION POLITICAL PARTIES, FOR UNITY AND SMOOTH ELECTIONS AND WISDOM SO THAT THE COUNTRY RUNS WELL AND THE ECONOMY…

  10. Leave the Christ out of politics, you bigoted, foo.lish Ars.ewhore! It shows how useless and empty you are in the Christian faith. If you need a job, just apply for one!! Cheap Hule!

    • Your insults and the seemingly pious stance in your first sentence surely do not agree. Who are you? A hypocrite? Remove that sheep skin and show us the devil you are. Come on! Do not be shy – silly twerp!

  11. “They that are for us are more than those who are against us.”

    Lady, are you sure?
    Do you know what are Christian beliefs?
    Corruption? NO
    Thuggery? NO
    Theft? NO
    Abusing people? NO
    Embezzling? NO
    Laying? NO

    Which type of Christian are you?

  12. Leave the Christ out of politics, you big.oted, foo.lish Ars.ewhore! It shows how usel.ess and empty you are in the Christian faith. If you need a job, just apply for one!! Cheap Hule!

  13. Please correctly call yourselves Christians for pf. and you think those of you who are for pf are greater than those of us outside pf. don’t deceive Zambians, your are pf hiding in Christians’ skin maka maka your ka bishop Joshua banda. “kulonga ba pf”. you should have called it “Christians for Zambia” not for Lungu. is lungu more important than Zambia? what a blasphemy. it’s like in the Kaunda days where kk thought he had shared responsibilities with God in his slogan “KUMULU NI LESA; PESONDE NI kaunda”. and God punished him. IDOL WOSHIPPING. YOUR LUNGU HAS NOW BECOME AN IDOL. I personally can’t be a Christian for lungu. I’M FOR JESUS.

  14. God will definitely see to it that these false prophets of doom wont go anywhere they will be punished for the evil that they have brought to our christian nation.

  15. Some women awe sure. It doesn’t matter how educated they become, they still remain prost.itutes at heart. What kind of desperation is this? How can a normal christian support a katata man for president?

  16. But we don’t know what’s going on in PF & Lungu’s diabolical schemes in a quest to stay in Power=desperation & total confusion in PF;kikikikik=Christians for Lungu-very evil *****s!

  17. Wonders shall never end!
    I now believe in the teaching that says Judge not in order not to be judged
    My recollection of this woman in 1991/92/93 is that of a hard drunkard, frustrated lost intern/junior doctor from Russia with very little knowledge in the head working at UTH and living at A block at Ridgeway Campus.I had written her off completely. Little did I know that in 2016 she will be an accomplished Theologian, a wife to an Army General and a mother to wonderful children. I later came to read a book she has written about God and the love of God for humanity. If only she can refrain from this partisan stance she seems to have taken, she can remain a role model in terms of amaule, bachakolwa who have repented and are changing lives. Doctor, please keep to the gospel and keep God…

  18. It should read Gold diggers for Lungu we know you make money while it is there. Why this election year its time to make money. All the best Gold diggers go deeper.

  19. We are now used to this kind of trash. Just go out there and explain what you are doing to improve the economy. That woman just wants to eat with you and after the elections she will disappear especially if you lose.

  20. HOW CAN THERE BE CHRISTIANS FOR LUNGU? WE ALL KNOW THAT CHRISTIANS BELONG TO CHRIST OR ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST. PLEASE YOU PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT LUNGU IS DESPERATE TO WIN THE ELECTIONS BUT USING THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VEIN IS A BIT MUCH. WHEN HIS WRATH FALLS ON YOU IT WILL BE VERY PAINFUL.

  21. History the world over is replete with conflict and destruction that arose from mixing religion and the state. People can pray for leaders if they want, but in the confines of their church or personally. When particular faith groups or movements start aligning themselves with leaders in this manner, the distinction between religious edicts and secular governance starts to become blurred. Resistance and resentment, from sections of the society, including faith groups that are not ‘represented’ in this picture, develops. As a national leader, you don’t need to parade around with certain religious groupings in the name of ‘peace’, ‘love’, tolerance etc. You need to govern firmly and effectively by taking action that will dissuade anyone from engaging in divisive or violent politics.

  22. Malabishi, what Christians for Lungu? Christianity and religion in general is the worst thing to have happened to humanity, it is even worse than slavery!

    This malabishi pretence by Lungu and his cronies called Christians are playing on down trodden people, abused for since religion was effected on the black race, mi say chaa!

    He is looking for votes and giving “Opium” to the Zambians. Karl Max said it, “religion is opium of the people”.

    Loads of matuvi!

  23. Leyah Mutale misunderstands Christian faith with shallowness to the detrimental of Zambia as a Chritian nation.
    Save theological questions, I put it to her;-
    – Who were chritians fo Dr. K. Kaunda? (Founding father of Zambia)
    – Who were christians for Jacob Titus Fredrick Chiluba (Declared Zambia a Christian nation)
    – Christians for Levy P Mwanawasa (Corruption fighter)
    – Christians for Lupiya Bwezani Banda (the Corupt)
    – Christians for Michael Chilufya Sata ( Tribalist)
    Don’t blame Zambians for misunderstanding your stand, your theology is defective and shallow fitting a cult.

  24. Madam Mutale don’t use Christianity for your personal desires and gain. What we see in the PF is not of Christ but the devil. There is no stewardship on state funds, leaders are drunkards and violent, no economical and governance skills and knowledge. All sectors, education (universities), agriculture, mining, energy are all destroyed and our dear Dr Mutale thinks we can team up using Christ to kill this nation, No ways. Please madam use others not Christians. The qualifications of leaders in Christ are:- (1) Filled with the Holy Ghost, Full of Knowledge and Wisdom and our PF leaders luck these factors.

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