Chief Chikwanda of the Bemba speaking people of Mpika when asked to comment on chief Mukuni’s demands that President Edgar Lungu should speak out on his nationality which is being questioned, expressed shock and the following was his reply:
Let’s say like the way Michael Sata came from my chiefdom, Michael Sata at one time they were saying he is a Tanzanian and we defended. We said this person comes from Chikwanda chiefdom. That person meaning he is my child and part of my subjects. He is my child and am ready to defend.
Those chiefs who defended, to say that this our subject and he is our child. Ah. The person who knows his child is a parent and those are the parents for Edgar Lungu. They know him exactly and his roots. How can someone come from nowhere come and speak for someone who is not his child honestly, does it justify? No!
The easterners have spoken and have defended that President Lungu is their child besides being their subject. Each and every parent knows where the child comes from. Someone will be able to say his roots are this and that. They know him and know his roots, so why should other chiefs speak on someone who does not belong to them? How can he justify? Even if the President keeps quiet, he knows my parents have already defended me, my parents have told the nation. He cannot start talking because those words were enough.
Why should other chiefs come in? That person doesn’t hail from their chiefdoms, that person hails from Eastern province and the easterners spoke.
We had the late President Sata, and us we knew him, we lived with the parents. We knew that Sata is Zambian because he came from my chiefdom and we lived with his father. Even equally, the way President Lungu the easterners had already spoken, they told the nation, they told us so why should I go again questioning where he comes from? What am I looking for?
I am a chief and I have got boundaries, so why should we start going beyond borders sure, because where Southern province and Eastern province are located is very far. Unless if it was one of the chiefs from Eastern province who shares the boundary from where President Lungu hails from would be able to argue and at least would have a basis. Actually the neighbor also has got no grounds to argue because it is us who know where our son is coming from.
When we start crossing the boundaries, going into other provinces then we do not know where our powers come from. If someone is silent, it does not mean they are guilty. The parents have spoken, so no one should utter anything.
Let us try to avoid such kinds of antagonizing each other. As royal highnesses we are there to work with the government of the day, even to keep checks and balances. That’s the way it is supposed to be. 75 percent of our subjects are impoverished, so if we are working with the government, we are supposed to compel them to do what they promised than to start going into politics. It is better to resign and join politics if that has failed. We have to preach peace.
Whoever comes into power in 2021, we have to work with them even if it is Green Party. We work with the government of the day. We have got one Zambia, and this one Zambia, we have to preach peace as royal highnesses. Let us not involve ourselves in politics. Each and every chief knows where he belongs. So we have to tell our sons that the direction at which you are going is totally wrong. Even my child home I have to speak out if wrong. Let us try to speak peace and see other countries the way they are running. How many refugees do we have in Zambia, where are we in case anything happens. Why are we fighting? There is always a mandate for each government in power, a mandate is a period of five years. Let five year elapse then if it is to usher another government, do so. As royal highnesses, we are there to support any government that comes into power at that particular time.
We are one people, we are Christians even if politicians or chiefs. All those who are trying to agitate divisions, it is not right in the country. It is more less like we have already failed in our chiefdoms and want to extend our problems to politics. Because honestly speaking, why should I become a politician if I call myself a chief? Because as a chief, whoever is in power is also my subject. It is better to resign if it like that, there are so many from our clans who can take over. If the worst comes to the worst, it is better to put your foot down and join politics.
Even UPND if they win elections, we will work with them because at that time it is government. So let us try to speak for the voiceless and compel government to do what they promised. Why involve ourselves in politics as royal highnesses.
So the easterners have already spoken. We should not start crossing boundaries because each chief has got jurisdictions
Your Royal Highness kindly forgive that colleague of yours. He is a business partner of Mr Hakainde Hichilema and he wants him to be president at all costs.
No news here…still talking about Mulongoti’s madness
Bembas are full of wisdom.
GBM has more wisdom than HH
Nalumango is very wise woman.
GBM or Nalumango can’t support any nonsense Mulongoti has brought.
But Mulogoti cikkala has messed up politics.
Chief Mukuni has seen the constitutional violation and expected to just let it pass by these illiterate chiefs who have also been corrupted by the filth system I of Jonathan Mutaware. a foreigner. These are not worthy to even head our chiefdoms. They are sell-outs. Why not let investigations and checks on the President to be completed, In any case Chief should be at the heart of defending the core of Zambia from any alleged intruders on behalf of their people. They should be wise enough not to speak off the culf, just because they where give K500 in an envelope. These chiefs are sickening!
IYI MFUMU YAMANO SANA UKUCILE MFUMU SHIMO ISHIFISHA PA KAMELWA. KANSHI KA MUKUNI TAKAKWATA MANO. HOW DOES HE IN THE FIRST PLACE OBJECT TO OTHER CHIEFS WHO SPOKE ON BEHALF OF OUR POPULARLY ELECTED PRESIDENT? INSTEAD OF DISAGREEING WITH OTHER LEGITIMATE CHIEFS SEAL OF APPROVAL WHY NOT TRACE THE ORIGIN OF SUNNY CHITOMBWA’S FATHER? THIS STORY OF SUNNY CHITOMBWA’S FATHER COMING FROM ACROSS THE BORDERS IS NOT A NEW ONE. IT IS SUNNY WHO IS A FOREIGNER AND NOT ECL WHO IS TRACEABLE. UPND SPONSORS THIS BECAUSE SUNNY CHITOMBWA IS NOT A ZAMBIAN.
What is so hard about someone: 1. displaying his birth certificate 2. parading his brothers and sisters 3. showing us his Grade 7 certificate 4. showing us where his parents are or are buried 5. giving us at least 5 names of former primary school classmates. is this really something hard show? Instead we are going round and round over a simple matter
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Chief Chikwanda of the Bemba SAID:
“Even equally, the way President Lungu the easterners had already spoken, they told the nation, they told us so why should I go again questioning where he comes from? What am I looking for?”
Chief Mukuni RESPONDED:
“We want a Tonga to be President of Zambia. After all, it is only the tongas who are indigenous Zambians and we are tired of being ruled by foreigners”.
@1.5, Nothing is so hard about that, but not at the call of a lunatic like Mulongoti who has been sponsored to malign the President.
HE IS AS INTELLIGENT AS MY CHIEF MWANACHINGWALA…………..MUKUNI IS A SHAMELESS HIRED GUN, ALWAYS EMBARRASSING US ..!!!!
Do u think the vistor came empty handed to his royal highness? So what was the obvious reaction from his royal highness, well aware of the small “kola nut” from his “son”, his excellency? He who brings kola nut brings life?
He’s not like Mukuni who feeds from HH
Mwasosa mwe mfumu,those who have ears should hear it’s simple, well spoken.
Why should Mulongoti who doesn’t have even a village start asking a fellow Zambian his nationality?
Why can’t we ask Mulongoti as to why in 2015 he supported the same man he is claiming to be a foreigner today.
Chief Mukuni on has one Village in his Chiefdom and the land he claims does not belong to him but Chief Sikute. Most people in his place are from Zimbabwe. Shut up sick Mukuni
“Unless if”…grammar.
People stop all this,,,,, no one owns the land,, If I found myself in this land then am the citizen,,,how many white pipo are Malawians,,, Zambians, southaficans,, Zimbabweans…but they camefrom overseas, but someone from Malawi you call him a foreigner,,,,, POOR MINDED BLACK PEOPLE…… we belong to this land as blacks,,, Mugabe father is from but he was a Zimbabwean,,, kamuzu banda was from Ghana but he became a Malawian, Kenneth Kaunda was from Malawi but became a Zambian…. NOBODY OWNS THE LAND.
Thank you Chief chikwanda.The problem however lies in the fact that not all upnd members are Tonga but 99.99999% tongas including ka chief mukuni are upnd cadres.If we don’t check this tribal cult, we will soon be dealing with a rebel group. Takwaba desperation ya so!
COMPARE AND CONTRAST.
CHIEF CHIKWANDA LOOKS IMPOSSING , SMART, CHIEFISH BUT THE OTHER TWO LOOKPALE AND WEAK AS IF THEY HAVE NOT EATEN.
Chief Mukuni is the HH of Zambian chiefs, Always losing any petty competition.
“ONLY A TONGA MUST LEAD UPND” says Sejani.Wise Chief Chikwanda has made sense in what he has said unlike this TONGA mischief MUKUNI. There is now a cold war between the chiefs of North-East and the mischiefs of the southern province. The later are actually decampaigning their small god HH and the former are scoring goals for ECL. Like what the wise chief Chikwanda has alluded to, chiefs should have boundaries and learn to respect other chiefs who don’t hail from their chiefdoms. This Ka mukuni thinks he is more intelligent than other chiefs yet he is just good at defecating in his trousers. It is because of people like this mischief that people have come to speak ill about TONGAS. TONGAS are now labeled as triblists, bitter people and worshippers of HH. HH A TICKING TIME BOMB TO…
Chief Mukuni who soils his pants must be suffering from incontinence and his thinking capacity is as weak as his reflexes. His brain is also suffering from “incontinence”” as it thinks randomly and not logically. Let him learn from Chief Chikwanda’s advice. We want a united Zambia, not one divided by silly chiefs like ka Mukuni.
Lungu’s parents, as we were told by those eastern chiefs, are totally different from the chimwemwe parents mentioned in his autobiography. Chief mukuni needs clarification on this issue plz
My chief has spoken.
Actually Mukuni shouldn’t be the chief. Chief Mukuni was female and when she got married, things changed such that the husband was allowed to be the chief. In short Siloka’s great grand dad passed it to his son and so four until this guy Siloka. So bene Sievu are the real Mukuni’s and they want to take over but Siloka is refusing. If you remember correctly, this is was brought up not too long ago. Therefore he should just work on surrendering the chiefdom to the owners not question Lungu’s nationality.
This is how a wise chief speaks!!Chief Mukuni and Hamusonde have really lost it.they just make HH lose votes especially from none tonga Zambians only daily basis!!no wise person would want to vote for such a desperate creature such as HH!!surely cant he just wait for 2021 and try his luck?this tonga man called Kainde has divided Zambia beyond repair!!the way he talks,one would think that there is war in Zambia!!Kainde is indeed cursed!!
Expect HH to turn upnd into a terror group if he loses in 2021 because really his desperation for state house is too much!!
I wonder whether HH has advisors or not as he keeps on making same tribal mistakes while hoping for a different results after elections!!Chief Chikwanda is confirming here how tribal tongas,so who loses from the Mukuni saga?its 100%…
There goes the waffling njimbu again. Always under pressure from his promiscuous wife. Hey man..! Just give me your number and I will give you the name of the guy who hits out with your ka wife..Kikikikiki
Words of wisdom!
Is it the same chief (mukuni) amene anyela muthalauze pakanthambo kwao uku or the one who sleeps @ the graveyard!!
No one expected anything different from the mouth of this useless PF Cadre Chief .
Who doesn’t know him ?
He should just shut up and enjoy the stolen money which is being heaped on him by PF criminals .
We will soon catch up with him as an accomplice in Lungu’s mafia deals .
I’M A BEMBA.
I’M NOT TRIBAL BUT THE PRESENCE OF A NON BEMBA PRESIDENT WHO SPEAKS BEMBA SO FLUENTLY AND AMAPINDA AND INSOSELO IN CB SIMPLY SHOWS HOW BEMBAS HAVE PENETRATED OTHER PROVINCES. WHO SHALL GIVE UPND THE VOTE IN LUSAKA AND CB IF THEY DON’T SUCCESSED WITH THEIR IMPEACHMENT USELESS EFFORT?
Iwe, it’s because he grew up on the Copperbelt. Even you, if you grow up in Southern Province, you will speak Tonga fluently.
No. It shows how people from other Provinces have penetrated Bemba speaking regions.
Me seem lost. We are talking about His Royal LOWNESS Chieftainess Mukuni, not so?
I feel its an unfair political gimic by mulongoti to embarrass ecl.unless u say that sata was grooming a foreigner to take over zambia,more over,the system would not have allowed ecl to contest in 2015 and 2016 if he was a foreigner.mulongoti campained for ecl in 2015,the same man he is claiming to be a foreigner,what is the logic?.lets hear from ecz coz they verify all relevant credentials from presidential contestants.
We are back to tribal wars because of the Wako Ni Wako mindset pa Zed! Chiefs are entitled to their opinions! Obama’s nationality was questioned and Obama himself answered by producing the required documentation! Obama did not hire chiefs to speak on his behalf! Our Bemba Chief is also entitled to his opinion just as his counterpart who asked for clarity! There are so many unknowns about Mutaware’s origins. Why can’t Mutaware answer for himself? We are aware some Chiefs are so corrupt and have been induced with cash in the past to say such and such is our subject. Let Mutaware speak for himself. He is a grown up and not a kid! Our Chiefs must learn to debate intelligently instead of pontificating dogma all the time! We need answers from Mutaware! It’s every citizen’s right to ask,…
It’s every citizen’s right to ask, including Chiefs! Mutaware owes us a signal as to where he hails from! Nothing tribal here!
We need to learn to ask and not take everything we have been told as gospel truths.
Remember after the demise of Sata how they fought to wrestle the acting Presidencyship? And you think Guy Scott would have missed such a grand opportunity?
And h.h, would he have spent $150,000 per month hiring Cambridge analytica huh?, or waiting for a petition?, when he could easily have glided nto State House?, With Mutinta perched on his arm!!!
Would h.h have wasted time expelling all the Malawians east of the Luangwa river (I mean all easterners) back to “their” country?
Even the alleged rigging is false because Scott was president at the time. Yes the evil man was beaten clean. Amen.
Unless upndeez are confirming that h.h is the politically empty fo.ol that we have always known can never rule Zambia!!! Same with that nincom.poop His Royal LOWNESS Chieftainess Mukuni, masquerading as a chief in the mighty tongaland district of Mukuni!!
2011 elections held under MMD rule then 2015 under hostile acting President, how come zambia intelligence never found anything?
Echo kanyela. I always say that these people are full of themselves and if their slaves think they will be taken care of kikikikiki they are in for a rude shock. Unless you are one of try them or cow then you matter, other wise you are as useless as VBM or MuSalt their inshindishi/ flower boys or their flower girl NaluB.
I mean unless you are one of them or a cow
jst luk at how behind we are, even our topic of discussion, Total confusion!!! As long as Tribe and language will be the reason we discredit others we will NEVER Develop! those who have put tribal differences aside are seen to develop eg; Botswana, Lwanda, Tanzania which by the way have more tribes than Zambia but only speak swairi! Lead Gen 11 vs 1-9! wat happened at the tower of Babel, babel means confusion, language difference was meant for confusion, not to allow pipo understand each other or even work together! Comrades lets put tribe or language aside and work together, otherwise the nation is in a state of confusion, it mulongoti this, kambwili this and HH that!!!!!!
You can’t take a horse to the stream and force it to drink water. HH and his political cronies such as Sejani must repent from tribalism and apologize to Zambians. They are the ones who have put us in this fix called tribalism. They started it, so they must end it themselves or else they risk tarnishing the good name of the Tongas permanently. We can’t force them. They are the rotten nut that has spoiled the good name of the Tonga people.
i don’t care where Lungu comes from; can be a Malawian or Mozambiqean who grew up in Zambia; and has become a Zambian; and is free to rule Zambia if he was not corrupt and violent; he does not behave like a Zambian because of his corruption and violence on the opposition; Mukuni has a right to question? Eastern chiefs can defend; one day truth shall come out; Lungu himself should tell the nation where his mother and father came from; where his village is; I know where my village is;
Stop watching PRY TV. You are out of date with information.
KK if you don’t care, we do care since your ECL is holding the highest seat that is supposed to be help by indigenous Zambians. We are supposed to know where our so called president hails from, why should it be a secret with so many contradictions. What are we going to tell our children about the history of our so called foreigner president. This bemba chief instead of clarifying things she is just trying to compare apples and oranges. We know more about Sata’s family tree than Lungu who seems to have dropped off from the sky without no family linkage to anyone. We are no longer in Luba Lunda kingdom where they were meant to believe everything including lies, we live a modern and scientific world where everything has an origin. Lungu needs smart advisors, this is something the next man…
next man can use to ship him where ever he came from.
Just imagine if HH had become president how this ka chief would behave.
He would lodge in Lusaka, forget about his subjects and be in State House every other day.
A upnd cadre groria nyimba acting head at Chambuta community school Zambia compound solwezi today surprised old people who went to get cash as she started telling them that this money is not from govt but from hh who asked donors to give them.she continued insulting govt despite people showing no interest please these people are making people the one another remove them and take them somewhere else.
This school the head and most teachers are ant govt.
Those who can be with me lets team up and impeach that ka weak cadre to handover the throne to a responsible man, so that it joins the loser hh completely into politics
Tribalism is a cancer in some people in southern province not all. Mukuni needs therapy to heal from tribalism. After therapy deliverance. Otherwise he will kill or reverse HH gains in cleanse ning himself of tribal tag or robe he wore in 2006 after the upnd congress which so him because upnd president. At this congress we remember the invocation of the quater sister by HH compaign team led by one Ackson Sejani. At that conference is you don’t say Kamwamba badala forget about food and be prepared to go to bed hungry. You have to practice some Tonga if you wish to eat. But up to now HH have no doubt cleaned hi self from this notion. But he must be worried that another Sejani has risen in the name of Mukuni who want to resurface the tribal middle name for southerners. Please upnd rise up…
Where’s Sejani? Is 6ft under or he’s just kept quiet?