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jeansI was seeing off my sister at the Inter-City bus terminus in Lusaka two weeks ago when I was subjected to an experience that I will not forget in a hurry.

I became an instant center of attraction when one of the call boys that hang around the station passed a disparaging comment on my pair of jeans. His friends immediately joined in with even more zeal than the instigator.

According to them, my jeans were too tight and would not be allowed at their station because they were “tired” of people like me who failed to believe they were Zambians. And then the names flowed; they called me a prostitute, a mobile grave that had taken too many men to Chingwere and many other unprintables.

I took the insults with as much dignity as a confronted criminal can manage. For in that space I was just that, a condemned woman that was getting what she deserved. Well, that was the impression I was given by my attackers and the audience they drew. I stood there, surrounded, outnumbered, scared and totally speechless. No one came to my rescue, not a man, not a fellow woman. Maybe to them, I was just one unfortunate person being humiliated or perhaps being ‘educated’ where my mother had ‘failed.’
And for me, that was the fact that stood out and the main reason I am sharing this with you today. Where was the communal spirit that we as a people are known for? The spirit that would not stand by and watch an out-numbered and intimidated person suffer at the hands of vulgarity. Where was the voice of reason? Just where did those call boys get the idea that they can tell people how to dress?

Is it perhaps from the silence that accompanied my public harassment; the silence that has accompanied the harassment of fellow women and girls for years? How realistic are we being as a people if we subject such personal things as choice of dress to public approval? Where exactly will we draw the line?

Today I am harassed for being a size 10 and wearing size 10 jeans and my attackers are applauded through public silence and inaction. Tomorrow who is to stop them from attacking me because I have combed my hair in an ‘unZambian’ way?

It is exactly things like this that really worry me. I worry about my poor children who have to grow up in a world where being vulgar has become an acceptable way of life, where common courtesy is becoming more redundant by the day.

The fact that I come from another home does not make me any less human or woman than your mothers, sisters, daughters and wives. The respect you would like the world to show them is the same respect my brother, father and husband desire for me. And no, there is absolutely no such thing as deserving vulgarity or asking for it.

My tight jeans are not an invitation to spite me and judge me, they are not an invitation to question my morals and tear my dignity to shreds. My jeans, skirt, dress- whatever shape or size is not an invitation to rape me physically or with words.My clothes are an expression of my taste, an extension of my personality, should that too be subject to popular vote? Who exactly will be the judge?

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121 COMMENTS

  1. I agree with you and I never would have treated you that way. But you need to realize that people that work in places like that are usually ones that have gotten to the end of their ropes and have nothing to lose by their actions. The choice is yours: either stand your ground and be harassed or take a chitenge in your bag and wrap it around you when you get there.

  3. that was very normal dressing.come to russia where people can move chintako without any one saying nakutambila!

  4. For starters no sane person will attack any woman for combing her hair in unzambian way. Your dressing must have been very seductive to have attracted that undue attention notwithstanding that most zambian ladies have a rich endowment when it comes to the ‘behind’. Learn to dress sensibly in public and know what to wear at any particular time of the day. If you were at a nite club, i don’t think anyone would have called you names. As much as we have freedom to dress as we please, there is a limit and people will always have a say. Learn to dress decently not like a slut coz pipo will mistaken you for one.

  8. My sister you just have to be careful with your dress code,you may think your tight jeans are not an invitation to rape but i can garantee you if you entertain that thoght in your mind and continue dressing like that you are just subjecting yourself to physical rape which will ruin and rob your joy.My advice to you is please if what you wear causes other pipo to stumble you better stop it,if not then try by all means to do it where pipo are comfortable with it.Iam one person who do not care about the dress code of nowadays coz I believe that a second look is a look of interest so once I see someone dressed badly I dont even look at them for a second time.But not everyone is like Matworld so you beta be careful.

  10. 3, yeah right. With summer coming, the dressing is changing…..

    Call boys just have their own way of understanding things especially Inter-City and City market.

  12. surely the way you dressed was not appropriate, i agree with the contributions that no4 has made. you should dress decently, i hope you will learn from this experience and share it with your children. personally i believe we are members of society and therefore societal norms and values will definitely shape us in our behaviour and personality. We have a say on how you dress because of these values which we hold as society. If you have individual tastes on how you want to dress, do so in your own home……and not in public. We are not leaving in the state of nature, we are people civil enough to know how to conduct our selves and this also includes knowing our dress code. Muchinje and society will respect you……remember my friend that it is not easy to change society,

  13. Where was the communal spirit that we as a people are known for? The spirit that would not stand by and watch an out-numbered and intimidated person suffer at the hands of vulgarity. Where was the voice of reason? Just where did those call boys get the idea that they can tell people how to dress?

    Dear lady, u ask questions and then provide answers, may be without u knowing.

    Their bahavior is steming from the communal spirit that u dont seem to realise, the spirit that wont hesistate to rebuke that which is unlike that community. U were not the only lady in the area, so the fact that u were picked on means urs was quite unreasonable.

    That is not Russia, it’s Zambia.

  14. first of all, if im an 8 and then wear size 10 jeans it doesnt work. they totally look uncool. the fact that i make efforts to wear a decent top that covers my behind should count for something.we are living in a changing world bane and we should learn to deal with it. times change and so do people. im all for modesty and not flushing unnecessary flesh but jean yeve its another story..it take ages to find the perfect pair and when u do vibantu vikazi kamba kamba? there’s no excuse for humiliating someone unprovoked. we are all just trying to look nice umm?

  15. Hey lady I sympathise with you, the kind of humiliation you had to endure. Unfortunately call boys are not the kind one can reason with – they use mob reasoning and not their mind. Another stranger or traveller would need to have had the guts to come to your rescue against such people with despicable behaviour. The best they could have done is to whisk you away. See those are a bunch of barbaric and uncivilised guys who could easily turn on their mob anger on the rescuer.

    Unfortunately there hasn’t been enough sensitisation to educate people about freedom of dressing. Despite the fact that we have many women movements’ organisations, I don’t think they have done enough on this issue.

    On the flip side, and without risking sounding like endorsing the call boys’ actions, just…

  16. On the flip side, and without risking sounding like endorsing the call boys’ actions, just to try to dress ‘carefully’ next time you are there. Sometimes when you are faced with people who don’t respect women’s individual freedoms and rights, it’s better not to dress to stand out of the crowds. You see our African and Zambian dressing ‘culture’ is a little different from those of westerners that we watch on TV.
    My wife talks about how she would have been regarded as a prostitute wearing the way she wears had she been in Zambia. Ours is a society of pretenders; men who are self-righteous and judgemental when it comes to women. But quite frankly I would have been amused seeing the way the women dress in western societies if I were in Zambia. So I guess dressing is a society…

  17. my friend that’s another world.you just when to provoke their minds.some have been starved since birth and they just watch on screens when they return to those video shacks in chibolya who show porn DVDs and you think they can spare you.already when they saw your ka shape they even imagined you lying there and you were in the act and sobing loudly. now only to realise they cant have you what do you expect?just vent it out on you.in intercity even having pornographic material in your phone is money.you charge and they flock.am told you are assured of 40pin a day.so you should know how hungry they are.next time they’ll just pee on you.

  18. I agree with the submission by futuristic…Your dress code is a departure from the traditional conservative Zambian way…we are condemned by the freedom of our choices…we want to adopt the individualistic/sophiscation of the west, cast away what is divine and traditional and yet still implore communal identification or solidality with the same values we have cast away?Is it a question of having the cake and keeping it at the same time?

  19. I don’t support what those people did to you. I mean Zambia being free society. You can dress they way you want, like in other countries, yes. But every country and culture has its own values and while you live among such, you should try to conform to such values. Its the same as in Islamic states you can’t do that, while living there, maybe if you are a foreigner, they will allow. Why? Cos of their culture.
    I agree we are living in modern era, but change in those people must be allowed to come naturally. As long as they still behave like that, there is nothing you can do but compromise your fashion a bit, whilst amongst them.

  22. The issue is not whether one is entitled to wearing tight jeans or not. It is rather the statement being made by what one wears. Sometimes it is not even a matter of morality as it is a matter of taste and class. That is why jobs have dress codes.

  24. Where is Baby C? She needs to weigh in on this one. Even better, I want to hear Abigail Malama’s poem about this issue

  27. Some people on this blog want to compare the dress codes in Zambian to the countries in which they are in, but people, those countries are not Zambia just because people here in Canada walk half naked doesnt mean Zambia should do it too. Are you saying that if the western culture changed and women started wearing robs like in the arab nations then we should also follow? Lets not be followers all the time lets come up with our own values. Zambia is a christian nation and we should always ask ourselves if we can wear what we are wearing if Jesus Christ knocked on our door. People claiming that times have changed should also argue that christian values and morals have changed, but i dont think God and his rules have changed, dont fall prey to the forces of evil, that are written in the bible.

  30. What’s the zambian way of dressing? Bearing in mind that clothes are un zambian or is this just a way of controlling women?

  31. # 27 you are correct. That is why I said it is not a matter of rights to wear anything one wants, it always depends on the message being conveyed in the dress.

  32. Well to me this is just lack of judgment on your part. I would NOT blame the call boys. We have a culture and you need to respect it. Save your tight jeans for right places. Why don’t wear bikini when going to market or getting on minibuses. Even in the west they have values. You just can’t breast feed and expose breasts in public. In Zambia this is the norm. women breastfeeding in public in Zambia are everywhere and its no big deal..its a taboo in the west. You are lucky those boys didn’t even lift you by AIR for disturbing their space with inappropriate dressing.

    I even challenge all those in the West to show up at work in a bikini and you will see how your boss will think you are sick in your head. We have values, learn them and respect them. That is what sets us apart as…

  34. #30–it is not about controlling women. It is about what people see in what you are wearing. This is not about women. I would say the same thing about boys wearing sagging shorts with boxers showing

  35. If a woman does not want to be controlled, she should go ahead and come out in slips. Then tell me what that means to those who see her

  36. I believe that is why Arab women rap themselves up from toe to head. The only thing you seen are the eyes. Maybe all the women in this world should adopt that dress code.

  38. # 26 Eya bane mwapoleni, tuli panshi tulekunkula. Ala bane fundeni inko, let the voices of genuine and faithful advice ring.

  39. BAKAPONYA WERE RIGHT. IF YOU DRESS LIKE THOSE WOMEN AT KUOMBOKA NO ONE WILL COMPLAIN. You even know it, you dress and paint yourself for us men.

  43. Guys muleke fwaka mutali. Efyo mwingalandefyo shuwa. Mwalimonako any dress code kuli ba Kalahadi?

  44. # 41 ZAMBIAN MU DIASPORA….Ku Mangalande kuli bwino kanabesa. Shani uko ku Marekani(swahili for America).Bane bushe umwaume wa nkanshi(Bush) akukila kwi nomba. Mumposesheko Palaki Opama.

  49. Hello blogger,

    Boring thread INDEED! can LT be a bit more serious! Ba kaponya do not care about tight jeans anymore…r u kidding me?

  50. Point of observation , guys thank you all, at least we can now reason and understand each other .Though this is not our native language ,yet in a land of multiple languages what can be more unifying but the usage of a common language ……as for the scenario above , I do not think the call boys are the custodians of morals in Zambia……… add more

  52. Thanks Jamaco, I love high heals…4 to 6 inches”. I actually don’t work…i have been in school for sometime now and will be graduating in May. That’s 6 inches, so i would only wear it on weekends to movies and stuff like that.

  54. Right clothes wrong place. Hope ur g string was not showing. Pa zed baliba choose on whom 2 attack. If u had gone there driving, coming out of the car they wudnt hav said anything walking mayo wafwa. Tivwalenge makola mwa bana. Jamaco,futuristic, akapondo wiseman n the rest muli uli? Counting down 4 the arsenal n chels game watching tennis nadal in action

  56. Hello baby C, long timw ma sista. what do you think about the story above… To tell you the truth i hace seen men in tight trousers and nobody cares…should we say they are gay?

  58. Not withstanding one’s freedom of choice in terms of dress, pipo, we have a culture and values we respect as a country. Dress code like one put it should match the occassion; be in a tight jean in Chez Ntemba and your chances of being towed will be high, come in a mini skirt or the same tight hipster to church then that is something else. Others are bringing in other countries like Congo, Botswana, Russia etc – we are Zambia and not those countries and that’s how come our dressing differ. Learn when to wear what. I can’t imagine my wife in tight jeans (showing demarcations) in the presence of our boy. “Musebanya uukalamba sana.” Kaponyas sometimes take the law in their hands as they realise no body from the so called decent pipo will scold these women exposing things in tight jeans.

  59. those jeans must have been vulgar indeed. i used to rock real tight jeans not too long ago pa zed. am a size 10 zedian size and when i would go to intercity call boys would only yell ” EGOLI or “Passions. if you remember those shows!!!!!!!!!

  60. So ninshi kulayendafye nakatenge muchola. Na white powder yaitikilako. Chinanilila naine wen i went visiting. was in bemudas and the said iwe chi GP refering 2 the gauteng namba plate kafwale teku south africa. I laughed but later on we had a conversation wth the boys.

  61. My sisy i emparthise with your experience at the terminus. But I have this for you, You live in a particular society with both written and unwritten rules, norms and values. Am glad that you have given us your opinion as to why the call boys behaved this why.
    You seem to be fully aware that the solution lies with you. The remedy is prevention.

  62. Am afriad if you fail to provide this solution soon, your own children will soon realise that they are members of society, they will certainly not hesitate to subject your to the same treatment the call boys gave you

  65. Those call boys just lack self control.One of them should come to the UK in summer lol.The just can’t keep their snakes in their respective cages.

  66. Zambia fimo fimo is it posible for u to abreviate ur urser name to ZMD its a handful. i hav enjoyed ur positings wanisekesa mwana.

  67. This is not a true story as I know where this picture was cut and pasted from. Well it is good for the discussion. It is helping us to analyse these issues like exposed g-strings of your galfriend when your parents are visiting. Dress only matters according to the context and setting. people are free to dress whatecer they want to dress into. The issue is does it suit the context. Are they appropraitely dressed for the occassion. An exposed g-string or thong at Intercity is among kaponyas is inviting comments from people that have idle time before loading job surfaces. In is simply a filler program to them, remember ZNBC and its filler programs before the main news.

  68. My sister, its sad to hear you vomit such words from that mouth of yours. How many women in recent days have been harrassed or laughed at because of their dressing? None a all! Yors must have been bad! Please learn tto to what to dress, i mean when,where and how? Dont put something suitable for a movies action at church, or something for the disco at the market… you will never cease to be a laughing stoke for as long as you remain adamant with your dressing. Perhaps just need dressing mannerism…

  70. Come to think of it , what constitutes call boys as a recognized entity…. un written laws/rules . We call them activists, hooligans, call boys,and moralists etc , yes depending on the level of civility and education ….though amounting to one and the same think cry for justice.

  71. Zambian Mu fimofimo, how are you? i rarely blog on sartudays because its uusually quite! am here now talk to me!

  75. EVERY SOCIETY HAS ITS TABOOS. yOU BROKE ONE OF THE ZAMBIAN TABOOS AND SOME OF THE SELF IMPOSED ENFORCERS OF THOSE TABOOS DID THEIR JOB. THAT IS WHY YOU HAD NO HELP. YOU CROSSED THE LINE.

  76. That is why I am in diaspora !! Too much ubututu pa Zed. Here people walk naked on the streets and no one really cares!! People mind their own biz and that is how development comes about.

  77. # 74 Nkole “something”, you are still living in the Cave days! your statement clearly reflects that…i rest my case!

  80. Years ago in Zambia I was wearing my favourite jeans on Cha Cha Cha, and it was not a skinny one. One kaponya blocked my path and told me boldly, “ba sista nimwe boyonda maningi, musazivala trouser iyi futi,” and his cronies had a good laugh at my expense. I was embarassed but I was not upset. Its the Zambian spirit, they speak up if you are ‘supposedly’ tainting society..

  81. Jamaco, will come and explain the difference later… just remind me… bye bloggers! Mwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

  82. What is Zambian culture? Thats what I ask myself everyday because I seem to clash with it alot of times. When I go to certain Zambian parties, women sit on their own and men on their on. Is that Zambia culture, Just want to know.

  85. ^^ Sorry, LT was acting up. #22, I agree with your reasoning… the author did admit that her dressing is an extension of her personality, and personalities are to a great extent shaped by our environments.. After all, as another poster stated, the same would be true in Islamic countries with strict dress codes. Anyone who deviates from their modes of acceptable dress would be deemed to be of immoral character. In the author’s case, her dressing gave the signal- in the environment in which she found herself – that she was whorish, even though she may not be so, because she deviated from what they considered normal modes of dress.

  86. In all honesty, that’s the impression she would give in many places in Zambia – be it a church, school, supermarket, or bus stop. It just so happened that the call boys (excuse the pun) ‘called her out’ on it.

  87. The irony a call boy telling someone how to dress as if they are the moral authority. It also goes to show zambians are cowards and very docile , a woman being harassed and people just watch. If I was there I would have pretended thats my woman and shown the call boys some thugmilitarism. Those call boys always go for easy targets , I bet if that was some white woman or some light ‘coloured’ woman they would have kept their mouth shut.

  88. nway, pipo wear really tite jeans all over pa zed nama thongs outside as we all saw on this weeks pics sometimes u just have to take note of where u r going and the enviroment and dress accordingly, nothing wrong if u want to wear the tightest jeans possible, i love tight jeans, but u can wear them somewhere with a number of civilised people who won’t harrass u now that u know the behavior, avoid provoking the response, doesnt mean throw away ur jeans, just don’t wear them to intercity, just as much as it is ur right, u won’t change a kaponya’s mind by wearing them again, it will only be a danger to you, so we live in a diverse society and humans can adjust and be flexible, n u just have to admit to yourself that kaponya’s will be kaponyas

  90. Culture is created by man and not born with it. This kind of barbarism is what’s keeping Zambia on it’s knees. Where were the police ? These savages should not be allowed to work in public places. How do you market Zambia to the world? A tourist witnessing such an incident would write some very negative in their press back home. That would be very costly for tourism industry.

  91. #89 Musi, thank you for a very objective analysis of the situation..we need more people like u on this forum, u just made my day and i love u 4 that>

  94. My dear sister, listen carefully. As many bloggers have said, every society has norms and values. Zambia is Zambia with its norms and values. Sweden is Sweden with its norms and values. Over all if you are a Christian, you need not be taught about this. The word of God says you have to dress in a godly way. Let me say what I have observed here in Sweden. Dear Zambians, here in Sweden some women’s dressing code leaves a lot to be desired. I can say they walk just naked. But surprising, even if I see their figures, nanis taima iyoo. I have asked my self why. But I have found that it’s too cold that the nanis cant get excited over this naked things here. Now in Zambia since it is hot, the nanis of men get excited so easily. No wonder the kaponyas react in that way. So please dress…

  95. For a fact you must be a very courageous lady to even have the guts to deffend your inaappropriate dressing.Shame on you!why dint they attack any other woman or your sister?you must have been unmistakenly nakedly dressed in a wrong place.Consider taking a course on tips on what to wear when and where.This can only be offered by the community arround you and this time around it was by the kaponyas because people including your mother if at all you have any are afraid to tell you in fear of being screamed at rudly that you know your rights.

  96. Next time me friend,dress like you want to be addressed.If you want to be addressed as a solola,then dress like one and if you want to be respected dress like someone dersiving.Otherwise its not only the kaponyas who may be concerned with what you wear except they being the only ones brave enough to confront nudity.However nabalya bene aba shilandilapo nangu kamo ninshi nabamisula.

  97. In my hometown – Kitwe- them boys have a different way of doing it, anyone of them who sees a scantly dressed girl like our poor sister here just shouts ‘solo, solo’ and the rest join in shouting ‘solo, solo, solo……..’ very interesting so long its not your sister, wife or mother. My only advise is wear those things in your house to arouse your husband not other peoples husbands especially not for those heavily libidoed boys.

  98. What really is “decent dressing?” For me, its not about dressing rather what goes on in the minds of some unseasoned Zambians. If you can’t bear someone’s dressing, why look at that person? Why abusing an innocent woman through insults?
    Pa Zed, there are so many important issues we need to talk about other than a woman’s dressing. IGNORANCE in Zambia will kill us. We need to grow up.

  99. In fact some ladies wear inappropriatly on purpose – to annoy men. I had a friend who even used to cynically say ‘ nalabafwalila lelo balacula , ndepita palyapene bekele’

  100. #97 UBUTUTU, Dont pretend that you dont get affected when you see a lady ( especially black girls) improperly dressed. I have been in UK for some time now but trust me my DNA is programmed, i see them black thighs outside i will looked a second time if not more, you can bet your house on that.

  101. Sorry for the insults you suffered but you must dress decently at all times. If you are well dressed you will draw respect and good regard. You think you are educated and your mother failed but in my view it is you who has failed. You copy the lifestyles of so called models, musicians, movies stars etc who have little or no education to talk about, generally have poor or no morals at all, are mosly druggies and so and so forth and do not realise that you are bringing yourself down. Your mother is actually mature and wise and are not . One thing you should know is that not all call boys are poorly educated but some are far much more intelligent than you are and even better educated than you but our poor economy let’s them down and has made them to be what they are today. Kafwale chansoni.

  102. #86, Ba Slumdog fimo fimo,
    the mot sensible posting and contribution of the day…… Not far from the truth …Thumbs up to you my bro…

    Hi Ba wIseman fimo fimo..

  104. I sympathize with you lady but you seem to carry the same mentality as those who arrassed you except you happen to be in the minority. There is what they call code of dressing. This is not an imposition on any group. I see nothing wrong with you dressing in tight jeans but if by your dressing you didn’t mean to put a spot light on you then you are mistaken. By your dressing you usually make a statement and people will respond. Just be wise next time and respect other peoples feeling instead of assuming that everybody will approve and like your extreme statement in dreessing

  105. i am one of the most decent and modest people i know, both in personal grooming and in manners but every so often i want to put on my best pair of jeans. we all know that a jean yosensela just looks aweshuwa. now what shud be the barometer? will a top that covers my backside save me from the mob justice olo ni as long as yagwila muvibelo ninshi wanyela kwateni? help!!!

  106. My sister , I understand your disapointments and the point you putting across ,but bear in your mind that some practices can be entertained in certain areas while they can be received with opposition in others. This is jst what constitutes Zambian culture ,you fail to live up to what is termed as expected standard you pay the cost. Am sure you can do that in low density areas of the country and places Manda hill or Arcades.Iam also meant to believe there was something to talk about your tight jeans than the usual tight jeans all over lsk .

  107. tight jean+open belly=invitation.
    what was yo first thot when yu looked into the mirror b4 dashing out of yo bedroom?
    fo that kaponya to notice yu,it must have been too much.we’ve been to intercity bus terminus,we’ve seen girls in tight pants,minis and so forth but with some decense and surely are not abused,anyway go back and check yo wardrobe.

  108. I would like to caution zedians in diaspora. You are being unfair by comparing yourselves to people who have not had your exposure but have known only Zed all their lives save for movies. The kaponyas are reminding you of the zedian norms as far as dressing is concerned. Just because you have become used to seeing some white thighs everyday does not equal to chibelo cha mu zed babe. Fyalipusana saana . Pali ba kala on zedian chebelo and not to talk of the ‘behind’. I hope u see the difference.

  110. I was in Zambia in Dec/Jan and a popular song Fenduza was I guess latest then and later in town I hear Kaponya’s sing it out to young girl in a different version. Something to do with Chingwere, so your story my sister reminds me of that. I may be in the diaspora but when I get home my whole outlook changes. I go back country big time . You see me in Melbourne, I am a jeans person coz of the weather and all but pa Z i understand that my environment has changed.

    Advice, know your environment and be wise, but everyone thinks like you do. Take care

  113. You chaps claiming traditionalism and african decency are hypocrites. Just a hundred years ago african women were walking around topless witrh tittays all out with small things to hide their jewels . So if you really want to talk about tradition you need to chikity check yourself . The only reason why you are angry at these women is because as men you lack self control and you think just because a woman dresses a particular way then it’s her fault that you have premature erections. I could care less what a woman on the street wears because I mind my own business and don’ t watch around eyeing other people’s women or daughters. Be accountable for your own actions don’t blame women when you know very well the problem lies in the lust in your heart

  114. I hope the kaponya’s are complaing about the ‘Yo’s walking around with jeans to their knee’s showing their boxers .

  117. For the kaponyas,they always think like that. For those people who think there is a zambian dress code, they should define it because I personally don’t think we have one unless you wear your traditional outfits. The western or european dress code has dominated what we wear.That said doesn’t justify indecent exposure,because even bazungu, some are consious about that. But to say somebody crossed the line or broke the “taboo” I don’t know about that one. Atleast asembe ni mini kapena we can positvely say something, but a pair of jeans? Some people have a bigger and fuller behinds than others, period. For the ladies, if you love yourself, know the environment you are in and dress accordingly,I personally wouldnt call you out for a pair of jeans but monga ba kaponya kaya..

  118. Slamdog, don’t legitimise your name by that reasoning. Why are you not walking naked yourself? Isn’t it change and development and I add, enlightenment? What we wore 100 years ago should not be the yardstick to measure what we should wear today. It was acceptable then to walk bare because there was little we could do about it. But things have changed and there is a lot we can use to cover ourselves. So please go by what is acceptable. In some countries you could be arresting for doing simple things considered normal in Zambia and you can not argue that In Zambia this is normal. Zambians have agreed values and norms that everyone is expected to respect

  120. I cant believe that this woman even has the guts to bring such on this fora. I ve seen women in nicely fitting jeans and dont attract the wrathof kaponyas. The thing is our lady must worn ka jean that even showd the ‘shape’ of eh. you know what am talking about.

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