Speaking when Kasama Mayor Fidelis Chishoma and newly elected Mungwi District Council chairperson Francis Musonda paid a courtesy on him, Mr. Shawa said he was saddened to hear that Mr. Sata’s opted to attack him and provincial permanent secretary Mwalimu Simfukwe during the recent public rally in Kasama.
The Minister said while he respects the PF leader, there was need for him to exhibit political maturity by discussing developmental issues instead of engaging in character assassination of innocent individuals.
Mr. Shawa said the fact that President Rupiah Banda appointed him as Northern Province Minister does not mean that the Head of State had marginalized the local people from the realm of power.
He vowed not be distracted from spearheading development in the region by selfish individuals who have nothing better to offer the people .
The Minister said he is in the province to serve everyone regardless of their tribal inclination.
Mr. Shawa stated that President Banda’s administration wants to work with the opposition and other interests groups in developing the country and urged well-meaning Zambians to fully support the move.
The Minister praised Mr. Chishoma and Mr. Musonda, who are both PF councillors, for showing interest to partner with the provincial administration in accelerating development in their respective Districts.
Mr. Chishoma has advised Zambians not to listen to Mr. Sata’s alleged divisive politics, as they do not add value to the development of the country.
Mr. Chishoma accused Mr. Sata of allegedly specializing in politics’ of division in order to win political mileage instead of fostering unity in the country.
The Mayor however assured the provincial minister that he and Mungwi District Council chairman were ready to work closely with the government in order to enhance development in their areas.
Mr. Chishoma further said as PF councillor, he would consult widely with everyone on matters of development in Kasama District unlike taking a partisan stance.
Recently, PF leader Michael Sata told a public rally in Kasama that the people of Northern Province have been marginalized because they were being governed by ‘imported’ people, citing Provincial Minister Charles Shawa and his permanent secretary Mwalimu Simfukwe respectively.
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This is not new behaviour…
Let this pass, petty, Sata has said worse. Let us move on to relevant topics. Okay then do something to Unite Zambians. My uncles married fron all over Zambia helping drown tribalism.
Thank you for seeing and setting the true course for this thread Mrs. Thenji Stevens. Before other bloggers get there socks in a knott.
#3, Iam merely speaking the truth, nothing but the truth…
It mayn’t be news, but some people out there still think he’s THE MAN. The guy needs to be exposed for what he really is – a bgotted tribalist.
King Cobra mwalanda shani uko imwe kanshi?
No# 4 as always, please continue for we are changing Zambia. Jamaco do not worry I think Mr. Sata is just a little to free with free speech on occassion. Even when he meant something in a comical sense, we take him to the limit because we now have freedom of expression and speech. But this should be dropped now bloggers it is a non story. Please but someone from Kaoma as Minister of Eastern province, it is time people were shown that Zambians can work and settle anywhere.
Mr Shawa you should be the last person to parade yourself a victim of ‘foreigner’ remarks by Sata. Of course you were not born in Kasama were you? You and Sata are tribal cousins (if I am not mistaken). You have every right to respond, straight to Sata, with bigger words and show the authority of your office as Minister. Not ifyakubutukila mukuzala ku Lusaka monga ka mufana ka ku Eastern Province. Ala!
ati imported people? Sata is very much right. Take a Tonga to Bemba region and tell them to rule over there. Sata mudala this time am supporting your comments. Tell them!!
The animal farm style Mr. Sata is always like that i wounder what people see in him, for we will go back to the sixties in the 21st century. Those kinda politics are old. We the young generation of youths want economic politics. Not insults and character assasinations umo bwachela. Twanaka
Nothing against the Tonga and Bemba on mz numbala 9 comment. I myself born Bemba lived in Kalomo and speak Tonga. Now I am a German resident.
……. and national with much love for Zambia
I am being vindicated nicely by the Undereducate bashikulu self-appointed PF leader MC Sata in his “Recently, PF leader Michael Sata told a public rally in Kasama that the people of Northern Province have been marginalized because they were being governed by ‘imported’ people, citing Provincial Minister Charles Shawa and his permanent secretary Mwalimu Simfukwe respectively” that the brother is the most terrible Tribalist Zambia has ever had and possibly will ever have in our history. The earlier he disband his PF to join the UPND as a cagre the better for him and the referred to people of Northern Province.
What a shame indeed!
I am glad though the this his thing is among the lists the group against him are focussing on to destroy him from politics.
I salute you all bloggers, you re really well educated and you know where to spend your energy on than on this petty issue..sata is full of jokes and sometimes unlearnt pipo take such this so serious…# 8 I like your conclusion, its true it will make no difference everytime to run to lusaka…if he cant solve issues there then why is he there…..
ha ha ha ha The truth always comes out and true characters can be hidden for long! How sad for Zambia that we are still seemingly stuck with such politicians. Instead of debating policy, you have the leader of the opposition talking tribal….very sad! # 9 Jamaco….you comment is not strange…..we have always known that!….
Jamaco are you in the Zambian KGB, M15, CIA, Chinese …… I do not know what there secret service is called but you get the point. Tuma flag twa chinga maningi. And why should a Tonga or Lamba, Luvale, Thumbuka………………….73……. Zambian not rule anywhere if the are qualified and love their country; prepared to serve with the fear of God. Division only makes Zambia to fall short of development. Botswana took all there people and called them one. In 1966 the declared Botswana independent and democratic, guess what the outcome was. One people showing that democracy is possible and is working in Zambia. Jamaco I agree with you mostly my brother, but here I have to say no for we are on a road to mental and structual change in Zambia, we need to fight that which separates us. One
One Zambia One Nation in the care of GOD.
Mwanawakwitu I am in Poland for holidays. Normally it is the German Flag besides me.
#14….dont try to down play an issue here….from the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh! This is the sad indoctrination that your Sata is putting in our beloved Bembas that they are marginalised in trying to give them a cause to stand together and for him ofcourse….neff said. We all know what the truth is!
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While I do not agree with the way they are planning to carry out their endeavour especially with money as a major concern due to possible mismanagement of national resources for MMD activities, they aim is the best Zambia can ever have at this juncture where we need to develop Zambia with regard to all Zambians of different races, ages and tribes.
In light of developmental issue at hand, I thus urge all well-meaning Zambians to join hands against the tribalists MC Sata and his MP Chishimba Kambwili who have issued serious tribal politics in a role. No wonder Minister Teta. wants to take this issue of PF tribamism and tribalist to a TRIBUNAL for
#19 Mwanawakwitu…..I second you!
I cant see anything tribal in what my president,Sata said.Infact he was very much right.Shawa is an imported person who knows little about northern province.This is a big problem even when it comes to mps.A person stays in Lusaka and goest to stand as an mp in Luapula.Does that make sense. The provincial minister should come from within.That way development can be achieved.Because he knows the problems that people are facing and he will be familiar with a number of things.Not just taking a person who doesnt know anything ati Shawa,Shawa awe ifyo.
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… issuing tribal statements that have caused people in Northern Western Province to issue an ultimatum for Bembas to leave that place with 10 days or so according to reports.
I hope all Zambian voters will join us true patriots to develop Zambia with level headed people instead of characters that just borrowed the name from Zimbabwe’s Mugabe for admiring his way of invoking difficulty rule on the Zimbabwean people.
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Maestro dont bring the deep tribalism issues which have long roots in your upnd to pf okay.Which party is tribal between upnd and pf.And let me tell you today i will tell you something you have never heard in your life if you say rubish on Sata you hear.You Satanist.
During the campaings RB told easterners not to let him down,that he was their own child and should block other candidates from eastern province.Isnt that tribal?Why do we forget so quickly?For me i can only condemn Ba Sata if i get the context of his statement.PABWATO CHABE
Engine Bbuloko No# 19 your words are wise on your comment in No# 15, No# 20 hhehhe hhe you are going to love ths one man, I actually agree with all your are saying today, tribalism and any racial form it takes should be fought with a passion like the people had after Christ fed them with the fish and bread. No#22 Chewe we are all Zambians it like me not wanting Chiluba, Mwanawasa and Banda Ruling Zambia from Lusaka because they lived in Ndola with the latter coming from Chipata respectively. The sentence preceding actually guides us to a very important point I am about to make. Mwanawasa and Chiluba lived in Ndola, but Mwanawasa was a gen in Comparison to our former president of Zambia in our dark ages.
chewe you have just kicked the ding ding in the right place. Ifyo walanda nafilowa sana kwati ni honey. It goes down the throat like honey.
The place did not make Mwanawasa, it was his upbringing wisdom that shown through so you might get a great man to run a province from anywhere in Zambia, and actually find a monster from within oh! this also works vice versa.
11 Jamaco, you contribution on #9 “ati imported people? Sata is very much right. Take a Tonga to Bemba region and tell them to rule over there. Sata mudala this time am supporting your comments. Tell them!!” is highly tribal and I hope you will apologise instead of taking it as a cometic the way you have done on #11.
You are the same character who failed to appreciate TRUTH when I brought it up some time back and now you are trying to feign being not harbouring bad intentions. Be serious for once. Anyway, “like father, like son” is how someone put it.
Whatever the case, normal Zambians now know who is the real tribalist and which tribe is too for cheating is not working.
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#22 Chewe the Virgin, whta is there to be known in Northern Province which any person from any part of Zambia does not know? Mwilatushinga stoko okey. The man, this your PF president (take note I have used small “p”) does not deserve to be a leader of a nation because he will plunge it into chaos. Lets not even say it was a joke because you can see how different the perceptions on people who can read and write have exhibited on this blog; whatmore bakamushi ku Northern Province? What seed has he planted in those innocent people?
Is Maestro a normal human being?this freemanson is not alone.So many demons are using him to cause confusion.He can be the happiest to see my president Sata dead.Fight the mmd,you think Sata is the one stopping your HH from becoming president.Let him work hard and campaign all over Zambia.Sata has worked extremely hard for pf to be where it is today.So leave him alone you argent of the devill with your hatred.
24 Chewe … your usual insulting nature is not a surprise to me at all. To borrow the words of #1 above “This is not new behaviour…“.
Continue in what you know best, but I hope you will come round to normalcy one day before it will be too late for you. As someone said “like father, like son“, it is hard to expect you to write or say anything other than insults, but with much pray and fasting I expect a saving miracle for you.
Now, all normal Zambians know who exactly is the real tribalist, which political party and tribe practice tribalism too because cheating has failed to work. Wait until the MMD finishes it project destroy PF/Sata MC.
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Dongo na sundu,how do you define chaos?For me the nation is already in chaos infact in a coma!How will my sata bring chaos
Mwanawakwitu, you didnt get my point.I know we are one but what am saying is,if shawa had been staying in northern before he was even appointed as minister there.I cant have a problem with that even if he is from eastern province. Its not alright even for a bemba who has been staying in Livingstone,all of a sudden to go and stand as an in Kasama no.If we continue with such mentality,its better to forget about development.
31 Chewe on your “Is Maestro a normal human being?” Whatever the answer anyoe chooses, certainly you abnormality and sickness is no where near my level. This is why you, 30 year old man, are panicking and hallucinating like a headless chicken at my postings. On “Fight the mmd,you think Sata is the one stopping your HH from becoming president.Let him work hard and campaign all over Zambia…. So leave him alone you argent of the devill with your hatred., I am happy supporting educated President RB Banda and the MMD and will never leave the Undereucate alone until he stops his attempt to mislead Zambia as President. By the way, the UPND can wait even for 100 or more years.
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The TRUTH is that one does not run away from own shadow. Your shaow only confirms your existence, if at all you do exist. Kanshi bane be proud of your origins. All Tribes have deffects, so what? Ba Kaonde, you are Kaonde until death. Tonga, Tonga until death, Tumbuka, Tumbuka until death, Bemba, Bemba until death. Hon Shawa and Hon Teta should be seen to do the ministerial work they are paid for work instead of hallucinating and chasing after ‘tribal tails’
No# 34 Chewe oh! I see, thank you for the break down. You are certainly correct when you say that, one needs to experience a place to be provincial minister; accept if he read and studies it with sharpness of a needle and employs local Knowledgeable civil servants. I do not support Mr. Sata’s verbal attacks, which makes me doubt his candidacy for president of the nation, as for Mr. HH his ties to Mazoka who was a known freemason put a full stop on my supporting him. Whether one cries or not we cannot play hookey with the devil. Zambia is to follow our Lord and Savior Jesus, under the care of his Father Jehovah. We are better hungry than aligning our beloved country with occultic individuals. My prayers always for my country and people, for the Lords protection.
Maestro i want to ask you a quetion.And i dont need to hear your answer just answer it in your heart and be sincere.If Sata was to die today would you come on this blogg and say nice words about him? You cant because the shame on you would be more hevier than your big head that is full of nothing but evill thinking on Sata.What did Sata eat from you? Does Sata owe you some money?Is Sata in government and is he the president of Zambia.Bushe iwe uli ndoshi nangu shani pakukwata umutima uwabipa so.Uwa fita fye fititi kwati amalasha.Bushe iwe how were you brought up kanshi.Was your heart transplanted from a lion or tigger.Are you okay?
When the king snake was young he spoke somewhat sense ,now that he is an OLD man. He is a baby just like RB….
34 Chewe , just to expose you following “… this freemanson is not alone.So many demons are using him to cause confusion“, now you have turnedto a LYING and your know the LIAR as given in John 8:44 of the Holy Bible – the DEVIL. Then how is the DEVIL’s son here? Me a non-liar and you a liar?
On “Its not alright even for a bemba who has been staying in Livingstone,all of a sudden to go and stand as an in Kasama no.If we continue with such mentality,its better to forget about development“, how about Arnold Schwarznegger? Be consistent with what you indicate on LT.
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8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him…
Education for all, there is n such thing as a tribe, it is but a dillusional term the 18th century British colonial pimps cameup with to keep Africa grounded. Just like our history spuns beyond all others in origin, it was to their interest to twist our future destiny. I am sounding like 1984 here. He says bizzare but true things. We knew God way back, where kings and Pharoahs then Peaganism set in and Greeks brought in creepy gods and dietys and the illuminatic in Egypt was born with these invadors from across the Mediterranean sea(greece). From the Illuminati in our current centuries and a bit before masons coppied and emerged, evil shows up, but have no fear my people for the Lord God is with us. We shall rest and let the Lord battle for us, while we educate and enlighten the lost.
Lt this picture was at cathedral ,funeral service and next should be kavindele . I am nearly never wrong. The truth is what I believe.
Praise be to the Lord God always. Remember always to pray, repent and serve God. Love thy neighbour too.
Why wear black not green or red or blue. Let the young rule not the old …….
38 Chewe , on your “Maestro i want to ask you a quetion.And i dont need to hear your answer just answer it in your heart and be sincere.If Sata was to die today would you come on this blogg and say nice words about him?“, I would give a TRUE REPRESENTATION OF HIS CHARACTER FOR I DON’T COMPROMISE ON THE TRUTH JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS DIED.
On “You cant because the shame on you would be more hevier than your big head that is full of nothing but evill thinking on Sata“, I respect your opinion but my deeds and yours are clear to all consistent LT bloggers even GOD.
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Maestro do you have a heart meant for a human being or not? Is the flow of blood to your blocked by evil for you to be like this? Uli ndoshi iwe nangu chaba shani kanshi? you always bring shame on tongas who i know to be wonderfull people.So loving indeed,you are not a Zambian.You are just some creature full of jealousy and hatred.Where you dropped from no one knows.All what is found with the devil is so real in you.
38 Chewe , on your “Maestro … What did Sata eat from you? Does Sata owe you some money?“, the character mismanaged the Zambian economy when he was the right hand man for Mr Chiluba FTJ (Hon Doc, Malawi° and also caused UNZA and Zambian education to go down by closing institutions which took away about 2 to 3 academic years as lost years of development of Zambian young ones. I can only imagine, how he would make sure, the little we have left it completely destoyed if he leads.
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John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
LT you never published the UPND MP tribal remarks againist bembas! what went wrong? we want balanced reportinng and helele…., your hatred of bembas and Sata really eats you up how do you live with such hatred!!!
46 Chewe , on your “Uli ndoshi iwe nangu chaba shani kanshi? you always bring shame on tongas who i know to be wonderfull people….You are just some creature full of jealousy and hatred….All what is found with the devil is so real in you.“, do I lie like the DEVIL as shown in the John 8:44 Scripture below or it is you who just lied above who is fitting to be so real in the devil’s hands and control? BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU ARE WRITING SAVE EXPOSING YOURSELF TO ALL.
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John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
38 Chewe , on your “Is Sata in government and is he the president of Zambia.Bushe iwe uli ndoshi nangu shani pakukwata umutima uwabipa so.Uwa fita fye fititi kwati amalasha.Bushe iwe how were you brought up kanshi.Was your heart transplanted from a lion or tigger.Are you okay?” LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO YOURSELF 30 YEAR OLD MAN! Who is normal between you and me? Just check yourself critically? Do you come from a home? You seem to hail from unfinished buildings called HOUSE.
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John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Disguise , I despise . Chewe the virgin your language defeats whom you claim ,virginity and virgin Mary un thinkable .Maestro and you chewe who insults ……
LT chewe is insulting … moderate my comments ,chewe is insulting and a blogger under maestro is right.
LT the words of the good book and Insults ,what would you go for? snake and Nyama soya? The old and the young ? Parliament and house of Chiefs. doctor and medium? lastly Chewe the virgin and maestro? i would go for maestro.
26 Mwanawakwitu greetings, on your “No# 20 hhehhe hhe you are going to love ths one man, I actually agree with all your are saying today, tribalism and any racial form it takes should be fought with a passion like the people had after Christ fed them with the fish and bread.“, good. There is only one way to solve our problem and that is to remain truth in life. When we will do God’s commandments of loving God and fellow man through using truth and not sugar coating words to impress someone, then we will begin to make strides for the betterment of all Zambia despite their race, tribe or language in particular and world Citizens in general.
Let us go Zambians, this is our moment and time to develop Zambia.
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52 wiseman-reborn greetings, on your “i would go for maestro“, I am humbled. Surely, lies in the face of truth will not take the Undereducate’s supporters anywhere with their level of insults – and insults even in Bemba Language. How I wish normal Bemba tribe people will demand for such characters to stop tarnishing their image on the international fora. Anyway, you can’t force a horse to drink water is how someone put it.
2011 elections are coming and they are coming to teach all flip-flops or inconsistent characters in this life a good lessons. In the words of Mr Never Mumba “Zambia shall be saved from terrible rulers.
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Bonite Maestro love for all and malice for none. Abraham Lincoln said.
ba Chewe the Virgin….stop using emotions here! for those of us who have taken a little time to follow zambian politics atleast since 1991, what sata said is nothing new. If I may ask, who once said that Chiluba had appointed Bembas to all key positions? I guess we all know who! When Mazoka formed UPND, he was accused of tribalism before he even had one rally…who ranted the accusations?? Someone was campaining in one local language the whole country assumably that all zambians know it….who?? Lets let not be petty here, Sata has proved a lot of times that he is not presidential material. His foreign policy?? Understanding of constitution?? To dismiss him on his tribal rants is actually being kind! coz he lacks on fundamental qualities of a prez! Lets move on..drop this tribal nonsense
mwashibukeni? mwabuka buti?
Sata himself was imported illegally in the scrotum of Sata-Mukulu, a Nwacusa of Mbeya in Tanganyikaland, into Zambia. He should just shut up, we do not want tribal politics in Z!
Sata a Bemba, awe sure bufi! You go to Mbeya and check their phone directory, they are full of Satans. I just hope this serpent’s tribal bigotry eats him up one day. As Zambians, never allow such a tribal bigot to ever rule.
This chimp will never change, he has always been a tribalist
When Kambwili made similar remarks in Kitwe at a rally, I said he was speaking for the party. Now things have unfolded. This old PF man (Poor Finishing) is a big tribalist. He behaves as if he never worked closely with Kaunda. He spoiled Chiluba and eventually himself. Chikwindi chiSATANA. Boxing is to Boxer as Sata is to …SATANIST/SATANA. Bembas are naturally like that. PF has 45 MPs 39 are directly bemba 1 kaonde (Jean Kapata) but closely Bemba, Mixed Indian Lozi Man, a Soli Scott, a Tonga Simuusa, Nyirenda an eastern etc. What cabinet was he going to form if he won the 2008 bye election. Its good he also lost the ERECTION. Pumbafu
Maestro (#54) and Chewe (#46): Both of you are exhibiting unacceptable, childish behaviour! Why can’t one of you just keep quiet so that we see who real FOOL is? Now, I can’t tell the difference between the two of you.
The problem with you Africans is that you are very difficult to organise, may be its because the iriteracy level is very high. what I have observed on these coments you have scribled here is that there are people who are purely Africans with kink hair like the san people. Sata is the only right candidate for presidence even people voted for him but this useless govt rigged the elections and if you can refute this then your problem is inborn no human being can change it.
#61. lol…. you see now that this old cargo is a number tribalist, he is the one who brought all this tribal thing in Zed, when KK was the presido we never use to have such until he joined MMD and together him with Chiluba removed “One Zambia One Nationa” Slogan.
These people that are making tribal comments are frustrated politicians. Dont mind them please. Just concentrate on the well being of your people.
Zambians this hopeless talk about Tribalism is killing the nation. Tribal this, Tribal that. We all belong to a certain tribes. We have now become over sensitive just to filter any tribal connotation in somebody’s speech. I think this is cheap. If RB opens his mouth, ears become wide open and are shifted in all directions in order to be aligned in a direction to miss all the point and specifically aim to get a tribal remark. The same goes to when Hakainde or Sata opens his mouth. Barely a week passes without people pointing fingers that this one is tribal or that one is tribal. People in other countries are busy debating progressive ideas. Viva KK for your one Zambia one Nation policy. Let education trash this empty and useless talk. Politicians please unit Us. Avoid stupid talk.
What’s wrong with having Provincial Minister in Northern from another Tribe. Don’t we have Mulyata as Provincial Minister for Northwestern Province? Mulyata is from Western Province, before Mulyata, there was Kenneth Chipungu from the East. People of North Western Province have not complained. At one time Eastern Province had Provincial Minister from Northern Province it must be Sikasote or Silavwe, but the wise men/women from the East didnt complain. Southern Province at one time had Mulyata as Provincial Minister and Southerners didnt complain. Lets just work together, we are all one, it doesnt matter one’s tribe.
‘You shall know them by their fruits’.This has been fulfilled. You can run, but can not hide.
To the uninitiated, Northerners & Easterners are tribal cousins. They fought a real war a very long time ago in which the real victors are not known to date. Their cousinship is so well developed such that no matter what they say to each other, no matter how harsh-it is always the cousinship at play. This makes it the envy of the other tribes who have tried their own version of this cousinship-but nothing beats the Ngoni/Bemba one. So between Shawa & Sata, or Banda/Sata it remains just that-cousinship. Agony is one doesnt know where the cousinship ends for reality-fact you will never know!! So leave Sata alone!!!!
Here the problem is that RB is being selective. To be faire, let each province have a non-local minister. This is what Kaunda was doing. For example ,let a bemba go to southern province, a Tonga to Kasama, Lubale to Eastern, ngoni to Northwestern etc. And after some time they can be rotated. This is a faire way of doing things so that tribalism is killed. …
What is tribe?Some body knowledgeable help me please.I dont understand the term “TRIBE”.
I don’t want to be looking over my shoulders to check for the unknown or afraid to mention my name when I am in either Tongaland or Kumawa or Kwahaye or bembaland, please give me a break. Do you understand where this is taking us? Do you guys read the history of Rwanda prior to the 1994 genocide? The last time I checked dudes, it was nasty in the strongest possible terms, believe me. I mean nasty! If you are a well meaning zambian you know what I mean. This has a potential to dub certain areas of this beautiful land , Zambia as no go areas for certain groups of people if you don’t halt this dangerous talk. Gime a break. Woooooo!!! I am tired. I rest my case.
Our PF party is slowly but surely loosing “GRIP”.True or False?
we know what kind of person he is all these years and that’s why satana will never ever rule Zambia….viva Intellectualism…we need a degree holder for presido…period…what type of presido would satana make?he just puffs out anything that cums!!!
Wanyanya,
PF is losing grip…TRUE!!. What is a TRIBE….a social division of people belonging to a unique cultural behaviour (usually preliterate).
#73 your comparison is futile.How many tribes are there in Rwanda?Come back to Zambia so you can get the actual meaning of “GENOCIDE”.Where you are yes ,because of only two Kalangas and Tswanas not Zambia forget.
Thanks Ba Mwanawasa #76 for your outstanding explanation.I like the word “PRELITERATE”.
Ba Mwanawasa,how about language,has it got anything to do with a tribe?
Guys “One Zambia, One nation” Dont lose it. I thought you were more educated than people from most African countries, but all of a sudden you are behaving like savages
#77 I have seen that you are scared to death. Hold on bro. You are entitled to your own opinion.One dictinary defines genocide as the systematic killing of all the people from a national, ethnic, or religious group, or an attempt to do this
Microsoft® Encarta® 2007. © 1993-2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. #77 unrealistic tribal talk has a potential to drive a nation in disarray. Have you read the trend of hatred between tribes in zambia. My point is plain for you to figure out my point. Don’t be naive. Prevention is better than cure. Remeber other bloggers are reading.
People stop taking what Sata said to another level. A level that Sata never intended to touch.
You are now talking about Genocide sure?
Zambia has up to this day enjoyed a peace that most african countries dream of.
Zambians will never and I mean NEVER be enticed to follow the Rwanda example.
That is why there is history people and those who know history will make sure that none of your Genocide bla bla bla come to life.
Please be mature enough and do not take the words os one single man become a national issue.
IT IS THE FAIR YOU GUYS SPREAD HERE ON THIS BLOGG THAT LEAD TO DIVISION IN A NATION !! OOOOOOOOOOOH SO WHAT SATA SAID IS BAD? NO IT IS HOW YOU SEE IT AND MOST OF YOU ARE SCARED OF THE UNKOWN. Remember that this is Zambia and not a country that has tribalism as a major!
Chewe the virgin is always supporting chiSata no matter what. Sata is a tribalist and he will never rule Zambia. People like him and Chishimba are doing themselves a deservice because people will not forget what they have said come 2011.
FEAR and not FAIR in 81!!
Wanyanya, Language is something that we learn in the crusade of our living. You and I have learned the English language but we are not English. I have learnt Bemba but Im Luvale. Sata has learnt Nyanja but he is Bisa, Nyamsoya has recently learnt Tonga where he is being endorsed for 2011 but he is an Easterner. You will understand that language is not only audible but also in symbols. Look at at this defition from the some dictionary ”a systematic means of communicating by the use of sounds or conventional symbols” I rest my case Wanyanya. Im an Engineer, what are you?
Sata should stand for 2011
Wananya, Definition for defition, Nyamasoya for Nyamsoya. Thanx
#80 you sound to be too immaculate i can’t help it.
Thanks #86 my bro.I’m an Engineer too.
Tribal remarks are only tribal if coming from the opposition!! The MMD Kaponyas are busy beating up people and threatening to kill priests and that is okay with them MMD. We are now tired of unbalanced reaction on issues from the MMD
How can a Zambian be ‘imported’ into another part of Zambia? Is it not a contradiction in terms? Personally, I actually think that it is a good idea to have a situation like the one in Northern province. There is a saying from eastern province which I think states that ‘alendo aleta kampeni kakuthwa’, ie people from outside are more likely to be objective in their dealings. It is actually good for nation building for people to live in different parts of the country. If a person is competent, they can easily learn about the pertinent issues of a certain region simply by talking to people and travelling round the province. I dont think you have to come from a provine to be effective. That in itself is discrimination. Issues of poverty are generally the same around Zambia.
Blahhh, blahhh go for work. Leave old man alone. In the last presidential by elections RB told the people of Eastern Province that they should chase away all the people who do not come from there when they go for campaigns, what language is that?
“spare the rod and spoil the child” As in the postings above by kelly chinook #80 ,read it. Zambia is for Zambians . America is for Americans ,china is for Chinese. we decided on One Zambia one Nation . NOT , one western province , one northern province, one southern province ,one eastern province ,one central province, one luapula province ,one north- western province,one lusaka province, c/belt province, but united Zambia.
#86 i worked in that country for quite sometime and i can speak their language.Tsala yame, kealeboga tota.Ona kae wane kone ko?
#89Skiibob, Im not MMD but feel duty bound as a citizen to react to your uselss posting. What tribe are the MMD Kaponyas? What tribbe are the journalists being beaten? What tribe are the ”priests? Be to the point my man. On the blog you must know that there are pipo who are thinking all the time. Do not pop your nose and leave 5h!t here and you expect to be let scotfree
Sata surfers from diarrhea of the mouth.
Chibamba Kanyama was right.Bloggers learn to be productive,why waste your time on petty issues,get a life,find something to do,get a job you f@@ls,convert your blogging hours to something tangible,go jerk yaselves if u gat too much tension,have girl friends you dics ,before those little dicks lose weight and become too small,holla at you later,f@@ls.
#81 Thanks. Sata called Shawa a ‘Foreigner’, so what? Going by our flags, Most of us bloggers are ‘foreigners’ and sometimes we are reminded of that fact though we may have attained citizenship we are ‘Foreigners’. Sata and Shawa are tribal cousins who can trade sarcasm and insults at will – till their tongues run dry! That is part of their tradition and most bloggers know this fact. Now, fellow bloggers, for you who are genocide inclined, kindly, HANG YOURSELF AAAAAAAAAAAALONE! twapapata. Do pollute our nation with your educated-confused opinions in the name of free speech. Ala! Our COUSINSHIP HAS/WILL PREVAIL EVEN IN POLITICAL ARENA AND THIS IS WHAT MAKES ZAMBIA THE REAL ZAMBEZILAND. Bless
Nothing new
faggots
miss daisy I missed you,how ve you been dear?
#96 continued: Ninkalipa mwe bantu…… 3rd last line should read… DO NOT POLLUTE OUR NATION WITH YOUR CONFUSED-HARMFUL-POISONUS-EDUCATED OPINIONS in the name of free speech. Alla!!! May God bless our land and bless your educated selves wherever you are blogging from.
Thank God most real Zambians who cast their vote have no access to the net. The hatred you see here imwe! LT what is the average age of bloggers on here? Now I am beggining to uderstand the BNP and the KKK.
Cousin-ship , yes another disguise non developmental a joker he is? At a rally? …wonders never cease.
If you tell your child that what you’re doing has a potential to land you in jail. it does not mean that your child is already in jail. Its a caution. Don’t mis quote kellyChinook. I kellyChinook mean sense here. lets unite as a nation ladies and gentlemen We won’t fear to mention certain word here. Genocide is only but a word perpetrated and becomes practical by careless remarks . if you are living as one, no talk of such words will pop up. I believe in calling a spade a spade. it is eminent. My appeal therefore is for us to be level-headed as Zambians. We can’t support tribal remarks. We don’t want politics based on personal attacks. We want peace and development. Peace…
I still recall the problems that existed between Hon Chibombamiliomo and G Sikasote and from the time Hon Shawa was taken to Kasama as Provincial Minister there is no enemity with the MMD Proincial leadership. It not a question of not being born in Nothern Province only but service delivery to the pipo of Zambia. Tribal politics are a drawback. We need politics of constructive engagement between the ruling party and the opposition. These same tribal remarks by Sata and the like are costing the PF votes from other provinces. At this rate things are going and conduct of Sata I doubt if the PF will ever win come 2011. Sata is supposed to concentrating in areas where he did badly such as NorthWestern, Western, Southern and Central Provinces. We need our political leaders to take this country 4
I cannot imagine the amount of blood we would demand had this come from HH. we keep robbing ourselves the oppotunity to get credible leadership because we are continually blindfolded by this incompentent tribal bigot whose style is no other than to instill fear in the voters about other candidates. Abash Tribalism we are one people.
I shock the world like the death of Princess Diana,
reverse psychology on technology,plus I accept no apologies.
The penalty is to cut off your arms and feet, poetry teachers like wiseman dull man are speechers seepin through the speakers,
Maestro will become die hard UPND whilst chewe maintains PF,but both of them are lost listeners, whose ears bleed for what they do not understand,they cant eat ,cant f*ck,cant work except blogging all day.Sometimes I wonder who is the next generation.
Who brought confusion in the world the snake .Can we trust a snake ,noways . can you be comfortable with the presence of a snake in the house or car… noways. Sata is what he is, king cobra. A Snake for a president…noways
stop writing nonsensical statements please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Without a doubt, it’s in the heart where the best darts were written ,sittin at the window of the grand old earths ,youths thirst for knowledge, I teach but hold heat ,Cuz some stup!d bloggers are lost beyond reach.
Yes you shock the world , did you shake the heavens and will you be shaking Zambia ,to produce good and truthful leaders?
Mukulumpe Shimpundu I hear you. Sata should be concentrating in areas where he did badly as should UPND. It would actually be a very healthy development for Zambian democracy if an opposition party won the election in 2011. PF have shot themselves in the foot – I dont think that people in NW will be voting for them and these latest remarks by Sata dont help. Incidentally isn’t Simfukwe a name from Northern province – is it not a Namwanga, Lungu or Mambwe name? If so are you not really northern unless you a Bemba?
You can make a leader to rule zambia but you cant elect a leader of your choice.Everything is master minded son,be wise ,its dem tricks that rule us.
#107. lol…..I hear you! noways, never will it happen in our beloved Zed.
But shawa why didn’t you complain when Rupiah asked his tribesmen to chase non easterners including you. Rubbish*** talking, those guys came for important issue but you brought in politics, we are tired with your your nonsense, discuss pertinent issues please.
The son of man ascended to the third heavens ,against the laws of gravity. The world would be in chaos if we did not have the overseer above. Ask Dr Chiluba he knows it . At any rate call me bro not son.
Muzungu, Bamwisa, Manyukunyuku, Umusungu, name it.
Then comes Mbuya: Bemba + Ngoni = (Shawa/Sata).
Sorry, waste of space
#114 if that is the case then it is up to Sata and the PF to highlight such issues. If Banda did tell people from Eastern province to chase non-easterners from the province then Sata and the PF aswell as the UPND should bring that into the public arena if they are above tribal politics. You cant say that it is ok to be tribal just because somebody else is. We should condemn tribal politics from wherever they are coming from because having a peaceful country is beneficial for al lof us.
you are still my son where knowledge is concerned I need a million of your calibre to call bro
i love rupiah banda!!!!!!! viva banda 2011…vote him
Son,knowledge this wisdom, this goes back when I was twelve,I love doin’ right but I was trapped in Hell,I had mad ideas, sad eyes N’ tears,years of fear, but yo my foes couldn’t bear.I searched for the truth since my youth.N’ went to church since birth, but it wasn’t worth the loot,that I was payin’, plus the prayin’ I didn’t like stayin’ cuz of bizzie-bodies N’ dizzy-hotties that the maestro type of preacher -ass souped up with lies had couped up, lookin’ at loot, butt N’ thighs.During the service, he swallowed up the poor N’ after they heard this, they wallowed on the floor.But I ignored, N’ explored my history that was untold, N’ watched mysteries unfold,N’ dropped the jewel like Solomon, but never followed men,Cuz if you do your brain is more hollow then Space…
brain is more hollow then Space oblivia, or the abys.
Have you looked at an Ant , a Mountain, an Elephant and a crocodile? they all have only one thing in common ,an act of creation . Not by knowledge but evolution/creation by the over seer above. Ask FTJ
The problem with my brothers from the North is they think they are best to rule this country forever and others do not think right. They own the wisdom, they know it better. This country is diverse and we need the input of each and every Zambian to develop this country. HH has failed to provide credeable leadership to Zambians. THe Chap is focused on getting to plot 1 at wahever cost so is King Cobra. Had the 2 men worked togehter is suggest by Ba SUPER KEN we would be talking of Nyama Soya, Teta Muloma and Mike Mulolo, Gen Shikapwaka etc. It all about being power hungry. There is no give and take for HH & King Cobra. Come 2011 MMD is going to win. Their campaign machinery has just started. We need real strategists to unseat MMD in 2011 with current opposition sorry divided votes as usual
What is entropy and what is organization and orderliness I asked my self? Would you help me on this . This is called knowledge. should I ask the snake ?
I strolled through the books of Job to unfold,N’ opened bibles, instead of hopin’ on revivals
Callin’ on his name N’ screaming Halleluja,When he hardly knew ya, that’s how the devils f@@led ya,See, look into my eyes brethren, that’s the lies of a Reverend,Why should you die to go to heaven,The Earth is already in space .The bible I embrace, a difficult task I had to take.I studied till my eyes was swollen,N’ only arose when I found out that we were the chosen,I deal with the truth N’ build with the youth,N’ teach my son as he kneels on the stoop
Son, life is a pool of sin, corrupted with f**lish men,N’ women with wicked minds who build picket signs,To legalize abortion, the evil eye extortion,I quiz some with my wisdom,before I was converted I was perverted like sata.
Let the serpent rule,cause he is the god of this world,form the time he beguiled eve,he has been in power till christ comes to crush his head.
Thanks Ghost dog you have made my day,not created it for sure .
From the look of thingz a humerous statement about a tribe other than your own will be deemed tribal. Tho the perception of humour differz from one person to another, often timez there iz no loss in just laughing over an issue and moving on. Surely if people must laugh periodically, someone haz to create a laughing situation.
Maestro; I am appalled with the manner in which you have continued to wield tribal sentiments on the blog, particularly as regards Mr. Sata. Mr. Sata is a very comical politician, and I urge you to listen to one of his discourses. Nay, this story is being blown out of proportion – especially that Mr. Sata was making reference to his tribal cousin. King Cobra, being a seasoned politician, knows too well that the tribal card cannot win anyone national leadership because Zambians have become a close-knit homogeneous group – thanks to Kenneth Kaunda’s One Zambia One Nation. This is the message you should carry to your party UPND which, alas, has proceeded with increasing negative fortunes in the last elections after the demise of former steward Anderson Mazoka(mhsrip).
Wiseman reborn and Ghost dog/b>-
You guys must be good friends, I love your poetry from you guys especially coming from a Med Doctor and Ghost I presume he is an engineer (I could tell from his input on kafue footbridge story the other day regarding redudancy, 3pin, arch etc)
I kindly suggest Sata have his brain scanned. He is at that age when people start exhibiting symptoms of “Parkinson’s” disease (a serious disease of the brain common in older people). How else can you explain the kind of reality that this man lives in? For a man aspiring to the highest office in the land (the Presidency) to keep uttering this kind of nonsense over and over is shocking, to say the least. And you people, who seem to worship this man, better be careful what you wish for. He may just be one of the smartest and conniving politicians taking you all for fools. So, what is his next solution to what he perceives to be the problem; have a Bemba president for Bemba land, Tonga for Tanga land, and so on? Talk about “medieval” politics at its best.
you are more than welcome wiseman,you are the reason am on LT,big Bro Mossad Kgb wasup!,wiseman is like a cous to me,we both go poetic,I love the swag in my bro.
Peter Chipango if you have stayed in Ndola before then I think I know you
“Ng’andu” for President 2011
Sata has got a reason to question Banda’s decision to field in people coming from other regions…that is pathetic….Let us see that Bembas also serve in other provinces such as Southern Pro, Western and Eastern… There must be a balance of power especially among tribes that have a highest representation in the country.
So Shut up and watch the bad music. Sweet words can’t solve this problem or pretence that is to say “I am not tribalistic, etc” that is not enough.” Watch out…rubbish is coming. Let us be fair in the manner we handle certain issues here. I dont need your comments.
Simple man….. Simple brain
The scripture says “Life and death are in the power of the tongue” and “the tongue cannot be tamed…it causes far more harm than a wild fire!”
And that is why King David sought to act and speak wisely at all times.
Who in their right mind vote for someone like Sata, the man is finished. He just wants free publicity.
#140. Ba Honey, lo and behold, Sata is the only opposition figure who’s maintained a credible following after Mazoka. Ask people on the streets of Lusaka, and they will testify to this. I believe they’re all in their right frame of their mind.
Monalisasyndrome the trouble is that Sata has to convince people all over the country to vote forhim. That is why he has to be careful of what he says. I for one think that the next govt of Zambia should not be MMD for the sake of democracy and entrenching multi-party politics but for now I dont see that the current opposition leaders are up to the job which unfortunately means that we have a de-facto one party state. Sata and PF should not score own goals by being careless with their mouths.
The politicians pa zed are in it for the money and fame , not that they want to help the pipo. This is why even the old age pensioners like Sata are still hungry and msking noise., what happended to all the young ones?
The Sata haters have one thing in common-they suffer from ‘Complex Inferiorite’ as the french will call it. They just envy the eloquency of the man, the way he sways the opinion of the land, the way he captures attention to himself, the charisma etc!!! The Sata haters seem to come from one area of Zambia, its not the East. Its not the West and its not the South! either. Or is the observation mine? Its not Sata’s fault that your ‘chosen one’ lacks charisma. Its not something you buy or learn. U r born with it. Its either you have it or you dont! Too bad he doesnt have it, I know it pains-but then ‘c’est la vie’.
The visibly withered COBRA, void of its former lustre and Political clout, has opted for a more blantant approach, saying and annoucing rather prematurely its candidature for the 2011 Presidential and Parliamentary General Elections.
It has by this single act, more than anything else, exposed its insatiable appetite and lust for Power, defying all restraint expected at least of Politicians of its stature and age. If upto now, there are still those that defend the COBRAS avowed good intentions for Power, this act has perhaps completely shattered their hopes and dreams out of their slumber and fantancy.
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From my observations, drawing from the past several years when the COBRA has availed itself for Candidacy, I have seen that its best moves have been out of what Americans term ‘shock and awe’. This rather premature annoucement on its part will deny it from benefitting from the ‘shock and awe’ effect that has previously worked wonders for it. For its lack of provable CV and questionable character, a ‘shock and awe’ entrance has been its best tact. For instance, whilst the antic of ‘public bathtub riding’ would normally be unbelievably embarrasing, the event performed berfore a PF croud has proven the immediate result of a ‘awe’ effect. Where has this gone COBRA!
#145. Anonymous. How do you reconcile your learned and articulate observation with what is obtaining here?: http://www.lusakatimes.com/?p=12649
LT, vima moderation nalema navo manje. In like manner, you deleted my previous comment after ‘moderation’. Whats up?
The COBRA has indeed been out manouvered, scared of the unseen development, it probably has felt that annoucing in time will perhaps give it a chance to out do its political enemies machinations. The tribal remarks it is venturing into is not helping either. Good luck for the SNAKE.
My fellow Zambians….why do you think developed countries are developed?Ofcourse there are alot answers to this question but one of those answers undoubtably is because they foster,toil,make policies,strategies on how to enrich their citizens and give opportunities to ALL citizens WITHOUT considreing whether somebody is coming from the northern,southern,eastern or western part of the country.If only we Zambians could also atleast try to adopt such mentalities of working together as a country then there will be hope of real development and APPRECIATION of each other’s efforts regardless which province you come from.PEACE!!!!
Nazo nkhani…..
108 Ghost dog, your Maestro will become die hard UPND whilst chewe maintains PF,but both of them are lost listeners…. has some truth in terms of Chewe but not me. I am not a die hard UPND cadre neither am I its member. I just appreciate the UPND’s manifesto which any normal Zambian who followed how late former President LP Mwanawasa used some of it to develop Zambia in his terms of office under former UPND man MP Ng’andu Magande’s control. Just follow my comment carefully and you will notice this without being confused. However, I respect your opinion even when you are wrong though I try my best to help you come to terms with reality.
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When we work, we work and when we play, we play.
131monalisasyndrome, on your “Maestro; I am appalled with the manner in which you have continued to wield tribal sentiments on the blog, particularly as regards Mr. Sata. Mr. Sata is a very comical politician, and I urge you to listen to one of his discourses. Nay, this story is being blown out of proportion – especially that Mr. Sata was making reference to his tribal cousin.“. This is utter nonsense! Continue being appalled out of your own delusion. Following “This is the message you should carry to your party UPND which, alas, has proceeded with increasing negative fortunes in the last elections after the demise of former steward Anderson Mazoka(mhsrip)“, I respect your opinion I AM NOT A UPND OWNER OR MEMBER. Get this and save yourself from self delusion.
The man, the charisma, the popularity. Just check out how many comments appear when its about our Micheal Chilufya Sata!!! He is THE NEWS not only in the Post but Internationally!! Eat this you non-believers! Long Live Sata, Viva PF!
I’m NOT any bit surprised, a country like Zambia a hard worker and pricipled man for plot.1, but this man fits bill as described, but he is a tribalist, a ruthless tribalist. I have never been confortable with a politician who speaks only his language, every where he goes. This shud inform Zambians that he is NOT a statesman, and will not be one.For that part only, zambia does not need such a man at plot.1.Because we will be told who are superior in terms of tribes. I don’t care Bemba is the most spoken language in urban Zambia, he shud show leadership but availing himslef to all tribes of my beautiful country, Zambia.
The fact of the matter is that Sata has ethnic preferences. It is all there written all over him. Now, who has no ethnic leanings? All people do I guess, but for heaven’s sake not one aspiring for the highest office of the land.This paradigm of tribal cousinship does not simply work in certain areas, especially politics and religion. This is because a crossection of people are supposed to be free to belong to such groupings.In that rally Sata was addressing in Northern province, there may have been Lozis, luvales, Nkoyas and so on. And some of these people may have actually been born and bred in there.. So how do you place them?Come on, lets go back to one Zambia One Nation, which the likes of FTJ and Sata tried so hard to destroy, and I admit they had some measure of success.
I think here sata lost the plot, but he stll remains among my favorite politicians. However all our senior politicians have given tribal statement at one point or another. Especially Levy and Rupiah, so go on Cobra bite
Sata is just sick. His mind thinks backwards. He can’t make a good national leader. He is on record for such statements for a long time. Even young Kabwili is thinking thats the way to do politics.
No. 138 please never mind about my comments; I think I am free to write what I feel and I don’t your comments.