The Leadership in Development (LD), a non-governmental organisation, has called on the Anti-Corruption Commission and the Zambia Police to investigate the the leakage of the First Lady’s payslip to Patriotic Front President Michael Sata and bring to book the people who gave Mr Sata the payslip.
LD executive director Moses Kalonde said in a statement yesterday that the people who gave Mrs Banda’s payslip to Mr Sata should be punished.
“As an organisation, we call upon the relevant security wings such as the Anti -Corruption Commission and the police to probe this matter seriously and consequently bring these culprits to book.[quote]
The person who gave the payslip to Mr Sata must be found so that he/she can be disciplined,” Mr Kalonde said.
He said it is wrong for Mr Sata to have gone to the media and allege that Ms Banda is still drawing a salary from the Ministry of Education.
Mr Kalonde said Mrs Banda is just a victim of ghost workers in Government ministries.
He charged that Mr Sata and his United Party for National Development counterpart Hakainde Hichilema should not be so desperate in their political maneuvers for them to start giving out unverified information to the public.
Oh shut up LD or whatever they call you. Don’t waste the police service’s time. It’s Thandie who is supposed to be investigated. Are you being paid to say this nonsense?
There we go old tactic from the story book. Use some unknown NGO to speak for you ..I see.. looks like RB’s wife has launched her defense of the indefensible. Victim of Ghost workers in government? ..ha ha ha ..that is a new one.
Madam, just do the right thing and payback the money. It is not much. Its only K15 million. You can take that from RB’s mid-term gratuity
Why should whoever gave Sata the payslip be punished? You are the same people who bootlick without any senses. What is wrong with pointing out a wrong act? For once, I support Sata fully. He has exposed a fact that shows our systems either don’t work or the people we have are conmen. Was Thandiwe aware that she was being paid for not working? If she was aware then she is a thief!. if she was not aware then govt has a duty to clean up their databases and eliminate all such cases. Either way, Sata has done the nation a service by exposing an obvious vice that drains the country of its meagre resources. This is the job of the opposition and once mopre well done Sata!!!
Yangu tata pa Zambia? Are there no intelligent people in Zambia? How do you advocate to punish a person who has exposed a criminal stealing public funds by false pretences? The ACC should if anything have Thandiwe prosecuted. She’s been drawing a salary for three years purporting to be a teacher at a named school in Chipata when records show that she has not been working as such during the time period in question.
I know some people like senior Citizen will try and defend anything for their masters end. But this one is clear, Thandiwe has no defence and should just payback the money and show the slip as well. Anything short of that will remain an election matter and fraud from from state house. Do the honourable mama, pay back and use the media as well to show that you have paid back. Otherwise, you will soon leave state house and call boys will be tagging stickers on your bak – thief thief thief just like Chiluba!! He hehe he he. Chawamila galu kudya mbuzi baba but Zamupota bwanji nkuyu zodya mwana?
surely three years is a long time for someone to have noticed something. thus i woudnt support Thandiwe unless sufficient proof is provided
Often timez its wizer to say nothing.
Mrs. Moses Kalonde- a question for you:
There is an interesting true-life story (in the POST- off course!) about a female graduate at CBU (Ms. Misozi Makangila), who was the only female graduate with a distinction in the school of Environmental Engineering. Her mother in her happiness goes on to say “I feel great because I feel I have achieved what my daughter has achieved. It has not been easy as a single parent to raise and educate all my children especially with my salary as a civil servant.”
I equally happen for her, but the joy for me is the way she points out about her meagre salary. Where as Mrs. TB claims in addition to her allowances a a first lady claims a salary from her previous job as a teacher an amount of K1,541892.74 – who wouldn’t take it? Mrs. Moses Kalonde?
Just Keep quiet you imposter! Ignorance is no defence in court of law. I didnt know it was stollen wont get you off the hook. All laws in ALL countries ensure that if you are in possession of stollenn property, you are the prime suspect of investigation. If I buy a car proved stollen and maybe owner killed, why would I have a Murder in 1st Degree charged slapped on me?Money laudering laws and regulation are based on this. not to mension Anti terrorist Laws & regulation that was forced onto international bank regarding disclosure & duty to report suspicious funds to relevant authorities. Ok Mr Capitalist. Lets put this another way for your satifaction. Madamme 1st lady is in possession of Laundered Funds ( Funds from crime source ). She has a casde to answer. Her husand’s case is ZAMTEL.
Next you will hear that TB has donated matresses etc to this NGO. Wpya munzi
Like it or not, Thandi now in the office of the first lady has a budget allocation of over ZK 10 billion.She receives more charity support in million dollars from local and international humanitarian aid bodies.Remember that the Presidency does not even see or use its pay check.From clothes, food, transportation to housing everything is state catered in line with budget. Does Sata really think Mama Banda could be chewing ZK1,5 million paycheck?
Zambia needs a voice of a prophet who will not fear man but will speak God’s judgement on the level of wickedness in Zambia if people do not repent and take care of the nation of Zambia and the people of Zambia as faithful stewards, this applies to all sectors of the country. God hears the cries of the oppresed Zambians, those that do not have voices and God sees how justice has been perverted in Zambia. Zambia needs prophets like Jeremiah who were not there to please leaders but were there to speak the word of the Lord concerning those nations. God bless Zambia.
Utuma NGOs twabupuba utu. So TB should have continued revceiving the salaries she does not work for. Is that what they are implying. Those NGO should be abolished.
Have never heard of this NGO. We shd learn to call a spade a spade. Thandi has been stealing from Govt….. And its stupid for one to say she’s just a victim. Even more stupid to say she was never aware of the fact that she was getting a salary. The problem of Ghost workers is real, but I never thought the ministry of education can be so loose to tight nuts even on a person so well known, the first lady for that matter. The NGO shd help Zambia by first of all inquiring from the Ministry of education as to what has happened to the education payroll update system and the personnel incharge must be questioned. This NGO is really useless. Its supposed to be GO and not NGO. Am 100% sure.
Read…I’m equally happy for her…..
This is what First lady Thandiwe Banda should be campaigning against, accountability of our nations wealth and removal of non existent workers on the Zambian payrolls as a way of taking care even of the little money Zambia has, not those empty campaigns she has been making on the health sector.
#10 We all know that those checks are direct deposits. They go into Thandiwe’s personal bank account. Do not support blindly. This is wrong. Thandiwe is a first lady. The best thing she could have done was to inform people responsible at the ministry of education to rectify the matter. She is supposed to lead by example! We don’t need Sata to call her out.
More proof that zambian NGO’s are just sycophants all crying for attention, jobs and ‘donations’ from whoever is in power. It’s like a circus to see who can kiss jacksie the most
Number 10 its like you don’t know what you are talking about, because that money k1.5million if its to multiply it by 36 month it will mean TB have used about K54000000, this means that Mrs RB would have used alot of gvt money had it not for Mr Sata. Let her explain why she did not inform the Ministry Of Education for the matter because she knew that she was receiving, we can’t know maybe she has been receiving payslips. That NGO is useless how can NCC investigate someone who has reported a scam. Ba Sata muli baume.
Stupid NGO,we know you are paid by the Bandas,how can you stupidly ague that it is wrong for the public to know that Thandi is stealing our money for not working for it,are you saying that the Bandas are right to get salaries when they dont work for it, if you dont know when you work in the public sector there is no secreacy to what you get,you are owned by the public,if Thandi worked for a private school they would have stoped paying her salary, for such a long time we had ghost teachers,now for once we are able to see a ghost alive living in state house and on a pay roll
I have never heard of this so called Leadership In Development thing and really nobody should even waste time on them, they are just fake and bogus.
The Mother of all Corruption?
There should be a crime for this nonsense.
ples tell that boy with his ngo to shut up for his royal blind support
let ask his small friend siulapwa and his party wat he has got by deffending this guys
There should be a crime for uttering such nonsense.
NGO claims whoever leaked the pay slip should be arrested, on what grounds when they are exposing the real theft.
I do not understand why this so called NGO could defend this issue instead of try and find the way forward.how did Ministry of Education kept printing these copies,who has been withdrawing the salary etc?
THE Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC) has arrested a Lusaka businessman for money laundering involving over K190 million.
DEC officer John Nyawali said in a statement issued in Lusaka yesterday that Chilito Zulu, 32, of plot number 22686 Ibex Hill in Lusaka, was arrested for allegedly stealing the money from Patents and Companies Registration Office (PACRO).
Mr Nyawali said Zulu, on unknown dates but between October 1, 2008 and January 30, 2009, jointly and whilst acting together with Dennis Mwape, a chief accountant at PACRO, allegedly stole the money by purporting it to be salaries and loans for him as a member of staff when in fact not. Mwape, 39, of Makeni in Lusaka allegedly stole money by making false entries in the payroll for PACRO by including four ghost workers.
THE Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC) has arrested a Lusaka businessman for money laundering involving over K190 million.
DEC officer John Nyawali said in a statement issued in Lusaka yesterday that Chilito Zulu, 32, of plot number 22686 Ibex Hill in Lusaka, was arrested for allegedly stealing the money from Patents and Companies Registration Office (PACRO).
Mr Nyawali said Zulu, on unknown dates but between October 1, 2008 and January 30, 2009, jointly and whilst acting together with Dennis Mwape, a chief accountant at PACRO, allegedly sto le the money by purporting it to be salaries and loans for him as a member of staff when in fact not. Mwape, 39, of Makeni in Lusaka allegedly s**** money by making false entries in the payroll for PACRO by including four ghost workers.
Punish the person who was getting the money.
Ignorance is no defence! Tandie is no different from regina,let the law of the land prevail.LD please save us the drama and shut f*** up cause we won’t let any crime go unpunished.you are the same people when one advocates for the use of condoms to curb HIV/AIDS scourge you say Zambia is christian nation to annulate all,what the f***.Tandie got to go!
Who was collecting her salary? You can still track the person since salaries are now sent to banks.
Malabish.lock her and gi’me the keys.
Listen to this I.D.I.0.T.
Waste of time and space.
since when did they change things,you report a thief you get arrested,so mulekefye kanshi twambe ukwiba and we,ll see what happens to these nation.so ba kalonde mulekwata amano.
Imwe fi people Ba LD, kanshi why lockup the person who published this saga?? why do you condone ‘sweeping the dirt under the carperts?? let the law take its own course in this indaba…
Ba thandi ni bakabwalala finish…………Now lets see what Rand B willdo about this
If it is true that the payslip contains information like the NRC number and employee number, then the people who leaked the payslip must be brought to book. It is illegal to release personal information without the persons consent. This information can be used for identity theft.
Mr. Sata must also be brought to book for releasing Mrs. Thandiwe Banda’s NRC and employee number to the general public. This information can be used for identity theft. Mrs. Thandiwe Banda must sue Mr. Sata for releasing her personal information (like NRC and employee number) to the public without her consent.
In the developed world, if someone had to release Michelle Obama’s social insurance number, that person can face serious criminal charges for releasing her personal information without her…
#15 I support your comments. It is unwise for Mr Kalonde does not understand the seriousness of the offence. She is not above the law hence she should be asked why she did not report the matter to the minisrty as soon as she vaccanted the post. And the minitry of Ed has a case to answer. Why paying salaries to someone they know quite sure that she is no longer a teacher?? ACC must do the opposite from what Mr Kalonde suggested.. Well done Sata. we wouldn’t have known about this.
She is still in denial that she is the first lady. Can somebody help her understand her position before Dora takes the opportunity
Thieves will always gang up to protect each other. Harassing a victim to protect their fellow thief is their age old modus operandi. Nga mwaiwala bwanji.
Just go to the Intercity Bus Terminus or City Market and see how the Kaponyas and other thugs harass a victim who has been robbed or has had their wallet picked to protect their fellow kawalala.
That is exactly the attitude Mr Capitalist and his cronies are peddling on this blog. Ghetto mentality where the robbers are protected and the victims threatened. Are we allowing them to harass law abiding Nurses and other health workers to protect their kind??
Lolen uko ba Kalonde…what punishment…
No need to punish the leaker, instead punish the accountant for making a wrong payment. Money should not have gone to the first lady. This payment was knowingly made.
Moses Kalonde, you lack leadership. The person who leaked out the pay slip should be regarded a hero for exposing corruption. So just shut up for now.
The fact that we have “more” NGOs than the UK and the States put together says it all. I won`t even bother commenting on this one.
What nonsense from Kalonde….you call upon the police to arrest the people who have done a very good job of revealing to the public how the poor Zambians’ money is being stolen by RB and wife , while you keep quiet on the MMD thugs who are assaulting the journarists? How retrogressive you are Kalonde. I think your NGO is a branch of MMD thugs. YOU SHOULD BE ASHEMED KALONDE. PLEASE DONT TAKE ZAMBIANS FOR GRANTED one day ikazanda if you are playing. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Iwe Ka LT which moderation are you talking about? Is Thandi’s theft not theft unless Kapoko does it? grow up LT. Tell us if you are MMD so we stop posting on your blog. We are tied with your nonsense.
No 17 Makmwee, walikwata amano, I love your thinking, if this issue went unchecked, lets reason by multiplying ZMK1.5million by 12 months or even the remaining 36 months of Rupiah’s presidency. Do you ALL realise that, that one hundred kwacha you leave dropped is a member of a billion kwacha, that if the same one hundred kwacha was missing the figure is nolonger a billion? Either something is wrong with TB or the payroll system is rotten.
“The Leadership in Development (LD), a non-governmental organisation, has called on the Anti-Corruption Commission and the Zambia Police to investigate the leakage of the First Lady’s payslip to Patriotic Front President Michael Sata and bring to book the people who gave Mr Sata the payslip”. These are true fruits of hunger, disappoint, failure, desperation and depression.
meant disappointment
Whatever the situation here, this issue is of public interest. If Mrs Banda was paid as a ghost worker, then we need to learn from it so that these ghosts are buried once and for all (pun intended). If she is knowingly paid inspite of being un-employed as a teacher, we also need to know. Govt must explain whatever the case may be. Ranting like the Rev is doing is not good enough. Sorry.
How did TB survive the regular payroll clean up done by DEBS office?
As for “He said it is wrong for Mr Sata to have gone to the media and allege that Ms Banda is still drawing a salary from the Ministry of Education“, honourable Sata (Grade 2/6, unknown) did not allege but produced evidence. Can Mr Sata take this to court.
Funny enough this is the same Zambian first lady who was saying that Health workers are stea ling things from hospitals and other institution for personal benefits, what a serious shame and careful next time.
My friendly advice is that please MMD GRZ stop paying that ghost worker starting this month. Otherwise, you will just continue embarrassing us Zambians to the outside world.
Have a blessed day all.
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Jeremiah 12:5 If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend…
fimo ifintu lishamo
Moses Kalonde is an I.D.I.O.T. Just shut up! You are the chaps who will lick anything.
……Just pay back the money!!! Good job Sata for highlighting this issue. This matter CLEARLY points out the double standards!! What a shame……………………!!
Don’t we have “Whistle blower laws” in Zambia? If not, Parliament should pass one—-if we serious about fighting corruption in Zambia. This is a clear case why individuals who want to do the right thing need to be protected by law.
Mr. Kalonde, honestly where is the corruption in revealing this info to the public? I thought “Anti” in “Anti-Corruption Commission” means “against…..” And now you are advocating that govt should start intimidating people who are actually troubled by corrupt practices and wanna expose the rot?!
Seriously, are you personally benefiting from this nonsense?! The person ACC needs to go after is Thandi, not the “whistle blower”, you moron!!!!
It is illegal to publish information of citizens of the nations, hence the word in the media, alleged, but in this case we have a criminal at state house. Immediately her name was found to be on the payslips, somehow she lost some rights. This woman and her husband will stop at nothing to pocket Zambian money. Arrest these criminals. She stole. In fact if I saw her on the road I will shout Kabwalala uyo, for the instant justice mob to pounce on her. She is no different from Kapoko. Can someone tell me how different this woman is from Kapoko? They both stole or benefited form govt coffers when they were not supposed to. What do we call such people? Thieves. and where do thieves belong? Jail.
Sometimes one really wonders the nature of cirucs Banda is presiding over out there. These goons of his, do they really think before they open their mouths?
Leaders are supposed to be role models. if leaders are dishonest, the nation follows the same. even the law enforcement offices can are not able to operate well becouse the appointing authority is the one on the wrong.
JUST 1 SENTENCE: HAVE YOU PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY HEARD OF A WHISTLE BLOWER! THAT’S A PATRIOT OF HIGH LEVEL.
Iyoo kwaliba ubwafya muchalo chesu! Who shu be investigated, Sata or Thandidwe?
Shut up!!!!!!!!!! Why shud that person be punished for bringing such scandal to light? Why shud Thandy keep receiving monies she has never worked for? Just the other day Bwezani told the world that nurses would not be paid for the days they stayed off work? In Lucky Dube’s ulbum ‘Well fed Slave” he sang that what was the point in going for work when others can get it for free?
kalonde what level of education have you attained in life.shame upon you.please apologise to the nation for your mouth diarrhoea.learn something out of this .shame again
Kwena Kabonde ulimupuba. So you are agreeing there are gohst workers and Thandie is just one of them. She was only a simple teacher on K1.5million. For all these months she has drawn just under £2000. What about those who were getting more and how many ghost workers are there? Only a few months ago she made a donation of K1mllion and the event which cost more than the money she donated to organise, was covered like she made a £1million donation. Can`t someone see the logic? Just what is wrong with Zambians?
With people like Kabonde, Zambia will always be borrowing and keep selling land. We heard about MPs resigning and paying back sums like £1500. Accountability should not only involve large sums of money ci Kabonde. The £2000 that your first lady has stolen can send a few villagers to school. And, yes that is just her alone how about the wives of ministers, MPs, katwishi nanomba nga ba mayor ngekobaba, ba girl friend baba headmaster and list goes on! I have said time and again on here that this kind of mentality will see us talking about this even 20 years from now. Watch this space people.
Bane impupu nipakuboko, this is simple FRAUD! Lets not be swayed by denials, this first lady has stolen and MUST be prosecuted. She does not enjoy Presidential immunity, kwasila!
ZAMBIA IS A JOKE
ZAMBIA IS A JOKE AND THE BIGGEST CLOWN IS
Pro-MMD Lusaka Times. Why not show some stories about other ngos or donors who may be against Thandi receiving pay when she’s not a teacher. For years, government has denied there are ghost workers and we only look foolish to the international community, as does the ngo that’s making such stupid calls. Imagine if that payslip was taken to ACC – do you think it would ever see the light of day? A few fake backdated letters would be produced and everyone would pretend that the first lady asked a long time ago to be removed from payroll. If Thandi asked to be removed from the payroll, it would be done instantly because govt workers are scared of getting in trouble. So LT, stop biased reporting and provide two sides of the coin
Moderate what?! You don’t seem to want the truth on your blog.
Zambia is a finished country.Am glad am no longer part of the nonsense called Zambia!
Any means necessary must be employed to rid Zambia of this demon called RB and his minions.The entire MMD must be vanguished thats when Zambia will see any dawn of hope.A total shift from this draconian way of doing things is the only way forward for this forsaken nation.You cannot expect a country to advanced when its lead by a headless chicken.Zambians are doomed as they are too scared to employ people power.The power to unseat RB the devil and his demons like Teta lies with the people but they lack courage.45 of independence,peace and one of the poorest countries on earth,what a shame! Zambia falls in the same group as Somalia,Liberia,Sierra Leone countries devastated by decades of war thanks to corrupt MMD and its 3 headless presidents.
71/2 Mulenga — Newcastle greetings and can you bring yourself together man.
You are inconsistent by writing “Zambia is a finished country.Am glad am no longer part of the nonsense called Zambia! on one hand in apparent disrespect to us real Zambia while you again show concern with “Zambians are doomed as they are too scared to employ people power.The power to unseat RB the devil and his demons like Teta lies with the people but they lack courage.” In which you include yourself as a coward.
Stop insulting and go back to Zambia to help remove the MMD from GRZ and replace them with the UPND-PF PACT.
Have a blessed day all.
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Jeremiah 12:5 If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend…
pay slip payslip pay slip! Nonsence.
Zambia is underdeveloping because we have people like Teta, Mulongoti and Nyamasoya. What do you think these people really understand? For us, it is doom and gloom as long as we have no solution to removing these people from our developmental offices, we are in real trouble. Think critically and mve on in 2011 or else our country shall always be sliding backwards.
I have all the good reason to stay away from that madness in sweet Zambia. With that madman’s reasonong, police should also arrest the person who spilt the Ministry of Health rip off. Very, very disgusting
Whistle blower need protection. This NGO does it want Thandiwe to continue getting GRZ money illigally? What is wrong with Zambians? It was a John Solye Ubwali they would have been in the fore front extolling gvt for being vigilant. But because its the wife of the JOB GIVER who is involved their reaction is different.
Very disappointing. Ba first lady ni ba pompwe . Let prosecutors do their job.
Filacitika bane mwipapa sana. Pa Z nomba elyo twala tumpuluka twishibeko what transparence means. Abanenu pa UK balisebene sana two months ago when their financial claims to the gvt were leaked to the media and each wilfuly resigned istantly. Mrs RB is a planderer if that is true she is still drawing a salary from the ministry of education. Therefore technically, since RB knows about it and is quiete, careful guyz he is a plundere as well and MUST resign. The minister of education knows something too. It should actually be a chain reaction, I can smell a rat there are many selfish bleeders involved