THE Mbunda and Nkoya Royal Establishments of Western Province say they will not allow any opposition party to talk about the secession of the region as a campaign issue.
Representatives of the two royal establishments said in separate interviews yesterday that the Barotseland Agreement of 1964 is a complex issue, which can only be resolved with concerted efforts from both Government and the Barotse National Council.
National chairperson of the Cheke Cha Mbunda, Ndandula Libingi, said Government should be given time to resolve the matter in an amicable manner.
“Political parties trying to use this as a campaign issue are causing confusion, and our position is to side with President Banda and wait for him to resolve the matter at an appropriate time,” he said.
Mr Libingi said opposition parties are deceiving the electorate that the Barotseland Agreement could be resolved within a short period of time.
“That issue has dragged through three governments, and now President Banda is making great strides by holding consultative meetings,” he said.
And Vice-Chairperson of the Kazanga Cultural Association, Laiton Kaushiku, said the MMD has shown true care for the people of Western Province by paying attention to the needs of the people.
“There is no need to talk about secession because we have a caring government and a President who has shown great concern by meeting the BNC and the Barotse Royal Establishment and committing to resolve the issue,” he said.
Mr Kaushiku said the presence of Vice-President George Kunda at the recent Kazanga cultural ceremony of the Nkoya-speaking people is a strong indication that Government has great respect for the culture and customs of all regions in the country.
“This was the first time a very high profile Government official officiated at our Kazanga cultural ceremony to show us that Government cares,” he said.
He said parties hoping to sway the decision of the electorate in the province to vote for the MMD and President Banda will not succeed.
Meanwhile, CHARLES MUSONDA reports that a political activist from Western Province has called on the people in the area to support President Banda’s stance on the Barotseland Agreement and efforts to develop the region.
In an interview yesterday, David Moyowambuya said it is good that President Banda has briefed the nation on the progress his government has made on the Barotseland Agreement and the resolutions of the Barotse National Council.
Mr Moyowambuya said the people of Western Province should also support Mr Banda’s decision to appoint a high-level team of Government officials to study the resolutions.
“This development shows that the province is entering a new phase. I want to earnestly appeal to youths and the people of Western Province in general to give Government a chance and the BRE time to establish the facts on the Barotseland Agreement.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
I do support RB!!!
Patience pays.bravo peace loving zambians.remember to vote wisely.
This is MMD stronghold.PF do not even waste time and cheat yourselves that you are going to win this region by a landslide.The best you can do is to hope for third position.I know PF bloggers are dilusional and must just accept the results of the elections when MMD wins by a bigger margin than before.
I did not know that there was Barotse National Council (BNC), I assumed it was Barotse Council (BC). Yes the BA issue should be handled with great care. It is a delicate issue it does not need to be politicized. If it is well handled, it will benefit both the Barotse people and the Nation at large.
thoz are hungry boys,they know where to feed
I’ve been in western province since Saturday and all I can say is this is the least developed part of the country, people near town live in shacks they call mashasha made out of reeds. the main road in mongu is eroded by sand and the town center looks worse than kabwata market. the people here are all talking about PF because finally they’ve opened their eyes and seen reality.
Sata and his protruding ignorance animated with dangerous opportunism and insanity is a doomed none strategic spies being ever risked with in the Zambian political history. He does not realize that the more he turns recklessly sensational on the BA issue predominently among the kwa Haye people of mongu and senanga only, the more he alienates himself from the majority Westerners of micro-ethnicities. What do we expect from a chap that falls on George Mpombo, Mike mulongoti, Willie Nsanda, Kambwili, jean Kapata, Jerry Chanda, Derrick Chitala, Kapijimpanga, GBM, Patrick Mwanawasa Jr. and Winter Kabimba? The more he talks of secession, homosexuality and mujahadin terror commitments, the more he looks a certified parody in the eyes of Zambians.
#5 me, Did you say PF is the saviour? Party of regrouped plunderers, yes they intend to save and serve only their pockets.
Its only in ZAMBIA were people accused of plundering national resources go free. YOU PEOPLE ARE MAD. HOW CAN YOU SAY PF ARE PLUNDERERS? WHY HAVENT YOU REPORTED THEM TO THE POLICE IF YOU KNOW AND HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE STOLEN. IF YOU CANT TAKE THEM TO POLICE OR DEC THEN SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Â YOU ARE ALSO DULL OR YOU HAVE JUST REFUSED TO THINK BECAUSE NO PF MEMBER HAS EVER CALLED FOR THE SECESSION OF WESTERN PROVINCE. THE ONLY THING I HAVE HEARD FROM PF IS THAT THEY WOULD IMPLEMENT BA FEDERAL SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE IF THAT IS Â WHAT YOU MEAN BY SECESSION THEN YOU ARE DULL INDEED. THERE SHOULD BE TRUTH IN POLITICS. YOU LIARS MUST SHUT UP OR YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR YOUR LIES.
To suggest rebellion is to suggest the break up of our republic. No resposible citizen should advocate such a positon. The Barotseland Agreement is clear on the intentions of the signitories and the people they represented.”…Whereas it was proposed that the northern Rhodesia shall become an independent sovereign state to be known as the republic of Zambia…” (extract, Barotselan Agreement)There are other ways to address the concerns of any of our citizens. The voices of the people shall ring at the polls and may our leaders take heed. To ignore the people is to breed rebellion. One Zambia,One Nation
#5 Simplistic approach to a complex situation, many Zambians know that PF is a bunch of opportunists who once tested authority and want to eat more of the poor’s resources.We’re yet to hear intellectual discussions on how they are going to deal with poverty. Chanda Chimba seems to remind us of what we may have forgotten about our leaders.
pf wawa!!!
#9 mate cool it down,you are also wrong in other area .what do you mean why didnt you report them to the police.do you know police or court never mean anything now to politicians pa zed?how many people are walking the streets of Zambia free when we all know how dirty there hands are ?
These Lozis thought they could share the country between Bembas and Lozis, whoever advocated for this was totally mad. Us Lambas do not want to be ruled by any of these tribes, how did it happen to connect us to Lozis, no wonder it could and will never work. Stick to your western province or better still Mongu to Senanga as Mbundas and Nkoyas are also not interested.
The Lozis have for a long time oppressed and supressed the Nkoyas and Mbundas. They have reigned over them and treated them like slaves!
@14 Chomba Spare us your nonsense together with your Senior Citizen whom you seem to be referencing with his only mongu and Senanga nonsense. I am Totela from Sesheke and Iam proud of my Lozi subnationality. We only have one chief in Sesheke District and that is Senior Barotse Chief Inyambo Yeta the son of the previous Litunga the late Illute Yeta IV. In Kalabo there is one Chief, The Litunga Mboanjikana. I dont know when the late Nalumino Mundia, Situmbeko Musokotwane, Amusa Mwanamwamba stopped being Lozi coz they dont come from Mongu and Senanga. Those same Nkoya and Mbunda chiefs u want to exploit were part to the decision of the Barotse National Council which resolved that they did not support secession. Just go and campaign in Western Province and stop using tribe as a campaign tool.
No Lozi wants to cut Western province from other provinces. What people need is equal development. Western province has been sidelined where development is taking place in other provinces it is not happening in Western hence the poorest province in Zambiaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Kufuma kuti aki lubilo bali kushembo fumu ni mombochima. Ye taba shangwe akiya kumatela kuli mwendi sichaba kona sika bota batili ki taba ya ku ambola hande shangwe inge muiketile.
@15 TwoBlue Isnt it interesting that the same Lozis in Mongu and Senanga who are oppressing the Mbundas and Nkoyas voted for an ‘oppressed Mulyata’ as MP for Mongu Central instead of their own one Francis Imenda in 2006! Please people stop being simplistic. There is no one who is been treated as a slave. Slavery does not exist anywhere in Zambia. Iwe true blue if indeed you know that there are some people in slavery in Western Province I would advise you to report this to law enforcement agencies otherwise just shut your nshima hole! You are either a tribal baiter or just a plain i.d.iot. Just go and campaign for whatever party you support in Western Province than talk and make st/u.pi.d assertions about people you know very little about. M/o/.ro..n!
read my reply i-d-iot lozi, masipa ahow, am sure you know what that means
@18.1 Me, You are indeed a syphilistic brained i.d.iot! Why the heck are you responding to something not meant for you? Your diseased genes must have also given you dyslexia!
I would like to take this opportunity to advise young Zambians that you should disregard the Map purporting to show the Provinces in Zambia in the 1920s. There were no provinces in Zambia at that time. Provinces were created by the then UNIP government in 1967.
finshi muletalika? come over here and see what I’m talking about, Senanga is better than Mongu, here its just a huge village with people that do not know the better side of civilization. someone said its difficult to do anything here because you have to go through the “king” and he refuses if you are not lozi, that’s why they need a president who will not listen to that crap but work for the betterment of all Zambians.
@20 Me No one has to ‘go thru the King’. That is some st.u/pi.d nonsense in your rotten head. The other time another i.di.otic relative of yours was making a rotten claim that ‘It is not possible to build anything in Western Province because of the Sand and water’. It is quite interesting that every thread concerning Western Province attracts muppets like you who always make i.d.io/tic and unintelligent statements that can only be made by someone with a double digit IQ. The South Africans and Danes running Mutemwa and Sioma Safari camps were licenced by govt thru ZAWA and ZTB. The last time I look those are govt institutions and nothing to do with the Litunga.! Please stop far/ting around about things you know nothing!
Zambia shall always be united, these provinces were brought about in 1967 ! Â So its a Waste of space and time talking about this.”….
Tribalism has no place in our Zambia, if you don’t like being Zambian get lost, go to hell cross the boarder for all we care
One Zambia one nation Ladies and Gentlemen
well #21, I’m here now. if its so EASY to invest in this God forsaken village of yours, how come there’s nothing good to look at in this heap of garbage you call a province? the other thing is your stupid relatives only give access to fellow lozis and all they put up are tuntembas, shoprite is far from town & then you put stinking grocery stores in central town, ma- imb-mwa imwe, Kalingalinga is joburg compared to this rat hole you call a town. your people can only manage to build mashasha & line the streets with fish & rice, swine waumfwa. the bit of traffic that is here has to share access with cows, what can you tell me
you should leave your safe haven and come here to starve with your sickly looking relatives and get beaten by mosquitoes, then you can talk about investment. for all I care you can cut off your so called country, feast on rice & fish & bath in sand. whats the beauty of looking over the plains when you sleep in mashasha, sipatonyana or whatever your chi name means, we’ll continue burying you one by one if you don’t change your dull inflexible minds. roger that!
Me you are right tthe place is a dump.
@25 Guru, So you are in agreement with ME and his solutions concerning the ‘dump’ called Western Province. He advocates the continued ‘burying’ of Lozis who stand up to complain about neglect by the so called Zambian govt! Are you also for killing people who stand up to challenge their so called govt for lack of development and job opportunities in the area? Do you also agree with ME in pouring scorn and ridicule at an ethnicity because you find their home to be a ‘dump’? If your answer to these questions is YES, then you are also criminal insane as your friend ME!
@24Me! Shut up! Obe Katali! Muli ndumbi liobe. There goes the lid off the uncivilised Kaponya. Did you think that you will get away with your m.o.ro/,,nic statements? Is the hole where you come from heaven? Do you have mansions in your village? Una hana kuli u mang? Waa nka wena lungumba tuwe wena. Musuku wa lao! Get lost psycho! You are congenitally insane to threaten people with death! Go get some treatment for the congenital syphilis that has turned your clan into psychopathic killers who celebrate the killing of other human beings! Lousy bunch of diseased killers and criminals!
so the whole western province is a village right, you i-d-iot my village is better than your best part of that God forsaken rat whole. you will continue dying, one by one! boom! boom! till you’ll only have your king in his lousy palace, why you call him king only you fools can understand.
Yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can this dead subject just cremated please my head hurts.
Its very funy that the rest of zambia is still ignorant of how zambia was formed. the Nkoyas and Mbundas are part of lozi, and they should never think they will live well under the RB’s king mpezeni. Barotseland has the right to sucede once it convinces itself that its surrendering of its sovereignity to form a united zambia can no longer work. where were the mbunda in 1964, or rather in 1860 when Lewanika first signed an agreement to safeguard barotseland? should the mbundas and nkoys continue to be bought by the zambian imperialist? Barotseland is a nation, and the mbundas, nkoyas, and the rest just make part of that nation.
One zambia
One nation.ni 21st century man,lets unite 4 da benefit of our children and our beloved zambia.why using bitter language.mature. brethrens.
#28 I can tell you for Free that Nkoyas do not and have never considered themselves to be Lozi, simply because the so called Lozis found Nkoyas already settled in most parts of what is now known officially as Western Province.
The BA was signed in ignorance and on a foundation of lies in 1890 and later it was inspired by greed when it was presented to the new government in 1964. It explains why Kaunda had a soft spot for Lozis. On both occasions, the Nkoyas where there but did not take part in auctioning their motherlands and those of others like what the Litunga of that time did because he lacked a sense of ownership because he and his people where and still are, in real sense, long term visitors from South of the Zambezi. The barotseland is a ficticious story right from the start.
Talk Talk – I agree with bloggers about the poor state of Mongu. I m surprised government is ahppy with the status quo. Nothing is happening in MONGU. The filth is increasing daily. This is because there is very poor leadership, greed, malice, slandering etc. Governements strategy to keep inept staff in Mongu is a retroggressive one. I can assure you, Mongu is going to be the last Porvincial Town to have any semblance of development in this country. Surprising those who live there think they have anything !!! They have nothing but poverty and shame. I wonder how they raise their children in such a terrible environment. It s a wild west.
tell that to that stupid spatunyana, he’s very ignorant.
@31.1 Me; A diseased brain indeed, you cannot even spell a name that is all over the thread. Is this why you call yourself by a name with two letters (Me) because it is easy to spell? Do you only count upto 2? Be reminded that insults are not allowed on LT that is why they have deleted whatever you wanted to call me. Sad that in addition to have a congenitally diseased brain you were also poorly brought up! You are a sad little piece of life!
A tortoise is a funny creature.When it is hot, it hides its head in its shell.But when it is cool, that is when it takes its head out.
@30 Talk Talk. Wa pinduku? The Litunga who signed the Barotse Agreement with Kaunda and Duncan Sands was Sir Mwanawina. Sir Mwanawina like all members of the Barotse Royal family are Luyis on their paternal side they are not from the South. And it is foolish and very ignorant of you to say the Nkoyas had nothing to do with it. If indeed you are Nkoya you should have known that Sir Mwanawina is your relative. His mother was Nkoya. The Sotho speaking Makololo were overthrown in the 1870s. The last Makololo King was Sekeletu. You are the one creating fictitious stories. And if the Barotse Agreement is fiction so is Zambia. That signature by the litunga is what created Zambia without it you wouldnt be calling Zambia your motherland. Painful as it may be it stu..p/id to rewrite history!
Western Province has a lot of potential but politics always gets in the way of development that is why things appear not to be moving slow compared to other provinces and districts. The Litunga always wants to have shares in all business transactions that is why very little happens in Mongu and other areas with the exception of Kaoma district which is developing much faster and has the highest potential per district in WP. The oil and diamond projects are hardly talked about these days and yet these are projects that can bring development to that part of Zambia. Yet again, the Litunga wants shares in all projects. There is nothing wrong with requesting shares in projects that are taking place within your vicinity but such demands must not be so much as to scare investors away.
@34 Talk Talk. It would be helpful if you told us what projects had been cancelled because the Litunga wanted shares in those projects. It is not nice spreading lies. The Ministry of Mines recently awarded oil exploration blocks in Western Province and BHP billington is doing airial mapping of mineral resources in Western Province. I doubt the Litunga has shares in these. During the time of KK there was a cashew factory, a Mango factory; did the Litunga have shares in these companies? Zambeef has an abattoir in Mongu, is the Litunga involved. If you are indeed Nkoya you should join the rest of the people in Western Province to fight 4 our share of the national cake and demand the building of infrastructure in the Province like roads. Lies or buhata wont take you anyway.
@34 Talk Talk, Kaoma has the best land in the Province for growing maize that is why the people you say call ‘Lozi from the South’ are flocking there to get land for maize growing. I know what is happening in Kaoma because my dad from Sesheke got land and settled in Kaoma upon his retirement. I know exactly the people who are growing maize there! People in Mongu, Senanga and Kalabo are also into farming growing what is today called ‘Mongu Rice’. National Milling Company are putting up a Rice milling plant to process the Rice locally rather than processing it in Lusaka. So please if you are indeed a person from Western Province you should learn to lobby for your province not campaigning to show how different you are from others. The people you want to please dont give a damn about u.
RB has made Barotseland a campaign issue by ignoring the subject for a long time, not attaching any importance to the matter and only responding only when he realises that keeping quite will cost him votes. However his non responsiveness lead to the violent uprisings , police killings, detentions, and the now ongoing deaths of the former detainees. For that he should be held responsible. Probably an inditment to the UN courts on human rights. Whatever he says now is not out of any genuine concern but some damage control for election purposes. Secondly RB and Kunda’s stance is not any different from that for FTJ. Divide and rule, as demonstrated by their strategy to separate Nkoyas and Mbundas a trap I wish to advise anyone from Western province not to fall into.
@37 da Silky That is the point I am making to the so called Talk Talk that the people he wants to please dont give a damn about his Nkoyaness. They just want to use people like him as horses to ride on the way to State House. The people who are being incarated for rioting in Mumbwa are a whole mixed bunch with names like Chinyama, Kamwengo, Chikuwa, Mwangala, Muyunda etc. These kids by and large were complaining about lack of jobs, poor infrastructure and lack of progression to Grade 12 because the govt for some reason has chosen Western Province as the destination of the majority of so called basic schools while other provinces are getting High schools. It would be stupid for anyone to fall for the divisive poison from these rascals while they are busy developing their provinces.
#38 I do not need to please anybody when I make it clear what my ethnic identity is. It would be crazy for a Nkoya person to call themselve Lozi but that isconfusing to the untrained eye. Some Lozis need to be educated to the fact that not everybody who resides in Western Province is Lozi, that is just an obvious fact. We Nkoyas have no time for your wishful thinking idea of what Western Province should be. I thing I can agree with you is that the Province needs its fair share of development just like the rest of the country. However, it does not mean that we should all call ourselves Lozi in order to develop the Province. Moving forward, I believe we need a two state solution though the Nkoyas would like to remain part and parcel of the Republic of Zambia. That is the long term solution.
Interesting points. I hope our learders are paying attention. May all the parties taking part in this years election declare thier postion and proposed solutions to this issue.@ 28 “kinakho” any group that is part of any nation has the right to seced. However this should be reserved for extreme circumstances such as gross abuse of human rights.e.g Sudan If your arguemnt is uneven development,it could be taken care of thruogh our political process.The people of western province need to elect representatives who will go to lusaka and fight for the concerns of thier electorate and not thier own welfare. At the provincial and local government level communities need to identify what resources they have and use them to develop the province. Always remember “As we
vote so shall we reap”.