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The Government will slip into debt if the delayed off-loading of the recently bought 90,000 tonnes of crude oil persists, Energy and Water Development Permanent Secretary, Peter Mumba has said.

Mr Mumba also said the anticipated reduction of the pump price of fuel might not be done because the continued depreciation of the Kwacha had substantially moderated the benefits of the cheaper import of crude oil.

Mr Mumba said in an interview in Lusaka yesterday that the Government was supposed to refine the feedstock and sell the finished products so that it could pay the PTA Bank in the agreed three months but the off-loading had been delayed.

“The consequences of going into a huge debt are that the financiers may in future refuse to fund any shipment for the country,” he said.

He said Tazama finally started pumping the crude oil from the port of Dar-es-Salaam into Indeni Petroleum Refinery last week but the limited capacity of the plant made it impossible to pump all the cargo to Ndola.

“We should pay the financier within 90 days to avoid incurring a debt which will put the Government in unnecessary financial problems but because of the continued delay in the off-loading this may just happen.

“Looking at the prevailing situation where the Kwacha has continued to lose its strength, even the reduction of fuel pump prices may not be possible because it may plunge us into debt as it would require a Government subsidy,” Mr Mumba said.

He said the crude oil, which Tazama started pumping last week, arrived in Dar-es-Salaam on November 26 but could not be sent to Zambia because oil marketing companies (OMCs) had flooded the market with finished products.

He said the OMCs had assured the Government that their fuel stocks were supposed to finish by the end of December after which they were expected to start buying fuel from Tazama.
Mr Mumba said the depreciation of the Kwacha from around K3,500 to K5,000 to a United States (US) dollar had made it impossible for the Government to reduce the price of fuel.
The Government had asked the Energy Regulation Board to calculate and see if it would make any saving from the reduced price of oil after the Kwacha tumbled.
Mr Mumba said the next shipment of crude oil was expected in February next year and that arrangements had already been made.

Times of Zambia

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246 COMMENTS

  6. Can people with abilities kindly help Bwezani and his team? They seem to be stuck with everything. Bwezani Bwezani bwezani mitengo pilizi. We are fed up of daily excuses.

  7. That shipment was bought way back when the kwacha was at K3500, then why the hell cant the pump price come down??? Typical plunderers, lazy chaps.

  8. WE NEW NEVER KEEP YO WORDS.ARE YU NOT THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FO KWACHA’S DEPRECIATION?REDUCE THE FUEL COST PLZ, CRUDE OIL IS SOLD AT MORE THE 50% LESS THAN B4 AND YU WANT TO HOLD ON TO CURRENT PRICES,WHY WERE LYING TO PIPO DURING CAMPAINS THAT FUEL WILL FURTHER REDUCE?

  9. #3 Princess-y I think I’ll just move to the ghetto within walking distance to my place of work. If fuel reductions can be effected via declarations, it means that soon those reductions will come galloping back as we are seeing now

  13. With OPEC reducing production in a bid to push up the price per barrel, it will be just another excuse by these f**l$ to get away with their lies, rise mother Zambia rise

  15. These people in government really amaze me, at how much did they buy crude oil, i guess they bought it at $43 per barel, honestly there is comedy in Zambia when countries all over the world are reducing the prices of fuel……Zambia has maintained the same high price. For Christ’s sake the price of crude oil is now $43 per barel and those bas*****s must reduce the pump prices…..

  17. FELLOW bloggers,

    listen to me carefully. I have decleared war with FINE. Where ever you see FINE tell me i will handle him. Please dont foget to remind me whenever he shows his urgly face.

    Pilishii bloggers keep an eye on him.

    Thanks.

  18. Zambians is this a goverment we elected? Liars, bakabolala. something needs to done and soon coz abasoja aba ngabafulwa things wont be good and we are not going to get any peace keepers from anywhere. Lesa twafweni

    If Sata was elected people would have been blaming him about mines closing, kwacha depreciating and fuel prices. Bakapoli manulpulated the vote in the hope that they will manage, now al they are doing if being defensive no solutions.

    Did anyone hear of TB Joshuas prophesy on zambia and its economy becoming worse than zimbabwe? 🙁

  21. Imwe Sata said it was not possible to reduce fuel prices but Bwezani said he would and since Sata is Chief Kaponya nobody believed him. Some called him a Grade 4 drop out. Lelo mwamona?

  22. we are in for it guys .no reduction of fuel means that no reduction of essential commodities and nefyashala kuti wabutuka pa zed

  23. Politicians !! How you change the goal post. You promised the nation a reduction of fuel prices now you are changing.KAYA……

  25. Bushe aba maambala, What are they doing zoona? Everything that they doing is going wrong, no good news pa Zed. What the hell is going with these people?

  26. Elo lwanya nomba, lets prepare ourselves for more problems. These guys would have not reduced the fuel prices even if the $ had reduced or remained the same. Hey, they bought these stocks at a very cheap price now its time for them to make profits by selling at higher prices. Mumba go back to CBU and lecture instead of telling us lies here.

  27. Look…these guys think we dont have guts huu!! BP and whoever had enough stock so TAZAMA could not ofload the oil??? Is there sense??? Why not keeping that oil at INDENI ready to be offloaded on market when the oil companies run out of stock. Now you keep the ship with oil on indian sea waiting for BP to tell you now off load your oil….dull creatures. FINE have you seen how dull your bosses are?….kwana mulifipuba …you are even lecturing us about the price decrease. Who does not know that its difficulty…but its you who lied to the dull villagers…fufill your promise. See how dull you are looking now….awee twafilwa ba MMD.

  28. Rupiah’s campaign promises:
    1. 50 pin fertiliser, 2. Cheaper mealie meal, 3. Cheaper fuel, 4. More jobs 5. Continue LPM’s fight against corruption, 6. No increment in salaries for Govt Officers…..someone can help, I have forgotten some more BUT point is you can’t point any of them on which he has kept that promise, and its only two months!!

  29. We knew that fuel can not be reduced under RB goverment. During election that was his main campaign message. When i become the president i will do this and that but today the man is quite. Fake promises. Why should the goverment incur loses on delayed shipment,when they have got other money from other sources to pay for the financing bank, after all fuel is bought on cash basis.

  30. BOZ has offloaded US$5m to rescue the falling kwacha.The kwacha has started appreciating (BOZ w/site),so what is Mumba talking about? The country should not suffer becoz of govt delay in bringing in the fuel stock.Govt should employ hedging techniques to mitigate the losses in exchange rates.

    The fuel pump price must be reduced as per promise.

  31. It is very suprising to note that when price increments are effeced the stakehold dont waited for the old stock to finish, but when it comes to reductions it is always this funny excuses that old stock has to be consumed before price reductions.why is the world so unfair to humanity? 😕

  32. Mwebantu who the hell is this adamant guy talking. It seems this Govt does not know how to plan & focus for the future, when it comes to increasing their salaries & allowances they dont hesitate, why are we being punished. We demand for the reduction as can be seem from South Africa, Botswana etc who have reduced the pump price. Stop this nonsense and give us a reduction in pump price. stop coming up with rubbish excuses becoz we are suffering. Look at his pot belly

  34. Gumu Gumu

    Thats nice to hear. But does that “rescue package/strategy” have a long and stable effect, or is it just short term. Because a short term effect might just knock off balance this already fragile economy. Your comments?

  37. (Number 9 Lusaka), yeah that is one other solution. (a move to a nearby ghetto near one’s work place) However, if you are not used, that is the question. However, other options would be to buy a bicycle, a horse or even a donkey. Though the latter is rather slow. When the going gets tough, I bet the tough get going. Cubans survived tough sanctions, didn’t they? They even have the world’s most trained medical doctors. Bicycles may just be the in-thing next, considering the rate of Japanese cars in Lusaka for instance. Don’t know about other towns, D’you know?

  38. Awe Naikuta I can now comment.

    What is happening pa Zed sure.south africa is one of the country that has been strongly hit by the so called economic crisis,but the guys have managed to reduce the fuel price by 45% in three months.The was the govt is using the crisis to defend their failure as if Zed is the only country affected.one thing that really pains me is God has blessed us with so many natural resources,but we dont make use of it.95% of S/africa’s electricity is genarated by the use of coal,but they will never have load shedding like pa Zed,and yet Pa Zed God has blessed us with big rivers/fall,but load shedding ni tapu tapu.Zambia my country where are we going kanshi! ama ma Inee 8->8->8->8->8->8->

  39. # 34 iam annoyed thats why iam making mistakes. i meant stakholders dont wait for hold stock to finish. this is taking Zediens for granted kwena!!

  41. Elections have all it takes to cheat people. people in zambia at times think so low that things will be fine when in actial sense its all lies. can we push this gvt out before zambia is like zimbabmbwe

  44. There is nothing tangible that this Government for Nyamasoya will do. Infact MMD stands for ‘make money and disappear’, soon Nyamasoya will leave and leave ZED in destitute!

  45. I said it earlier on this discussion board that people should not raise too much expectation on the reduction of pump fuel. I stated that in relative terms the decline on the international market would not directly translate into reduced cost of procurement by the Zambian Government. This is because of the offsets made by the depreciation of the Kwacha.
    It is amazing that many think that the Zambian govt runs a dollar account from which they purchase fuel. The other miopic view would be to think that buying crude oil at a lower exchange rate, say last month, would directly mean low pump price. Has anyone found any filling station where they sale crude oil in Zambia for use in our cars?

  46. I forgot to mention that wheel barrows have already taken their toll on Lusaka roads. The other day a Merc. almost had a head-on collision with a wheel barrow and its pusher. Come to think of it the wheel barrow was laden with tomatoes, cabagges almost making its pusher invisible. The police seem to turn a blind eye too. Mr Henry Kapata (LCC)needs to know this as well if he does not know already. Perhaps they can confisticate some of these modified barrows which make our city ugly, among other things.

  47. What do you expect when the USD is rising agaisnt the ZMK by the day??? lucky and happy for me.— am still enjoying my midweek fuel reduction… no onewill ever know how I que for my car to be filled up every Wednesday before 11.00hrs.. >:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??:-??

  48. **==**==**== #38 matworled

    your analysis/coments are always mature,hats off for that man.

    the so caled jatropha plant for fuel sources, is it promising? if so which other countries have benefited from the same.?.am puzzled…

  49. Babie 😕

    If you are reading this, please read this very carefully because i shall blogg this only once…….

    NAKANA :o:o:o

  51. I can only imagine the feeling of those who voted for nyama soya!! believing his compaign promises…hoping things will be better!! :d/:o

  54. #27,Kambongolo am with you. Fine is a useless creature i wil help you to remove the water which has put so much filthy in his head.

  57. With me i blame BOZ, why should it take people on the street to drag BOZ by the ear to offload dollars to save the overdepreciated kwacha.BOZ governor kept on assuring us kwacha would gain when the market adjusts itself.

    If Bush himself abandoned free market to save his country, whom are we to leave the market regulate itself.

    I cant believe these leanrned fellas,they always need to be reminded,why?

  58. In June/July, the price was $140/barrel and the Kwacha was at K3,500/$ and pump prices went up. Now, the prices has come down to $45/b (over 70% reduction) while the kwacha has depreciated to K5,200/$ (less than 50%) so, all things being equal we should still see a net benfit of over 20% reduction in the pump price…Mr Fine#45.

  59. That is one of reasons why the boss in plot One thinks he he faced more problems than the former leaders. Everything is with current system is chaos including PSs.More…yet to come.

  61. Mumba, should be sincere and truthful,Govt has never welcomed news of reducing fuel prices with two hands, its has always been a hearting breaking issue to them, we only received a reduction bcoz, they though we wont give them our vote.

    Now that they have the mandate, they are the masters.when asking for our votes they came crawling and begging.Now they issue threats, now they are masters.

    Well, time of recorningis coming.

  62. Besides, there is the over-blown $1.2bn reserves which we could use to buy directly when the price is at its cheapest and store some crude for a rainy day. This is as good a time as any to dip into our reserves otherwise what crisis are we waiting for?

  63. Zoe and Matworld 😕

    Yashani guys? Whats cutting exsay? Romancing the stone apapene? Abena Matworld, cool it mudala. Thou shalt not lead Zoe into temptation.:o:o
    Zoe, i forbid you to fall for my friends online charms:-w

  65. Sad to be ruled by the minority, thats why we wanted change, I dont’ see anything good for the pipo of Zed coming out of this govt. We need a pragmatic president who acts fast on issues affecting the people, Fertilizer wont come down, mealimeal still going up and now we expect fuel to go up. Where are we heading to pliz. Lets vote wisely in 2011, its time we benefit from our country..

  67. You, guyz what you should know is , in this raising of $, economic down turn, someone is dancing and rejoicing because his pockets are getting fillups.

    While, we admit there is pannic buying by holiday makers and traders,but to beat three phychological levels in less than three weeks its over done.

    Someone is benefiting in this.

  71. Look at Obama,in his book”Audacity of hope”, he outlined what the role of govt is in the 21st Century.

    Even when he was elected we knew what his policies would be like,recently he anounced his economic plans of creating 2.5 million jobs in the next two yrs throgh his public works prgram.

    Now here in zambia, with Hero whorshiping of pipo like TEta, we are going nowhere.We need brave and courageuos pipo like MMD MP muteteka.Those who spoke the truth.

  72. Bloggers there is one issue i expected to arise.How can Mumba complain that the market is flooded when fuel import permits are issued by his office or ERB where he has a hand?The incompentence continues last time it was Chituwo assuring the nation thhhhhhhhhhat we have enuf maize stocks only to backtrack 2 days later

  74. Sori Zedians, now you understand why some of us in the diaspora are very reluctant to come back home because your leaders are the most selfish species south of the Equator. Here in Namibia the government which fought for the people’s independence has reduced the price of unleaded fuel by R1.50 per litre, effective Wednesday yesterday. What a government you voted for!! Nyama Soya please dont hoodwink and torture my people :((:d

  75. LCC says.

    One thing I can tell you my dear these pipo in the govt,they dont think before saying anything.They take time to think after they have made a careless statement.So thou shall not be bothered by Mumba utterances.

  76. I dont think the govt has lied about anything. What he has explained is spot on. Unless some PF cadre can state otherwise.

    It is simple logic actually, oil is bought in US Dollar. Oil producing countries seldom use Other currencies. Some countries use the EURO and YEN but otherwise the US Dollar or Petro dollar if you like is the most widely accepted currency when it comes to oil purchases.

    The reason the dollar has gained so much against other currencies is because there is a shortage of the dollar on the markets. Where there is a shortage, the price goes up so as to deal with demand. There is a shortage of the US dollar and so it has gained against many currencies. [tbc

  77. Zambians, dont complain about anything that RB and his surrogates do.
    Thats what u wanted , be careful what u wish for!

  78. #53. Uwakwisano, and #54. Anonymous
    Say what you know other than stop me from saying what i know.
    People will judge what I say against what you say, and there is no need for you to feel you may be missunderstood like some opposition leaders.
    If you have substance there is to cause to fear or stop others from speaking out.
    You dont win by tackling down the athlet next your lane, instead you get penalised for that.
    Show your skill by challenging the other athlets and if you come first on the line people will see for themselves.

  79. Why is it that Zambian fuel is the most expesnive in the sub region? We have been told alot of stories in the past but the truth is we buy from the most expensive source and there are alot of middlemen.

    The big one is why the expensive source and so many middlemen?

  80. These guys are really dull! I don’t suppose they have heard about hedging. That’s exactly what they should have done when they entered into a contract to supply fuel for more than three months. The contract was entered into at a time when oil prices were bound to be further reduced. They have since dropped to $43 a barrel. There was nothing wrong with buying the oil per se but they should have put mechanisms in place to mitigate a loss as a result of:
    (a) potential reductions in the oil price and
    (b) the depreciation of the Kwacha

    They must know about forward contracts,futures contracts, contracts for difference and other financial instruments they could have used to hedge.

  81. #65, Ba Zed, R>B might be working on a stimulus package like Obama, or bush, but the problem is communication skills.He doesnt have.

    If he had a live Veep,one with the charisma. One who could clearly explain govt policies well like Ben Benanky is US, perhaps R.B would be seen to be there.

    Veep is there for appeasment, there is nothing vibrant about that office any more.

    Obama, went flat out consulting Economist all arounf America about how best they can tackle the economic down turn.

    Here nothing, all we hear at same old politicians recycled with opposition treated as enemies.

  82. INCOMPETENCY. Period!
    ERB and Govt have failed Zambia. ERB as regulator should have knew Indeni would have a planned shutdown. They should have factored oil imports and storage capacity plus crude oil imports well before. Looks like ERB is full of incopetent people and the Ministry of Energy is at sea with no compass. This confusion could not happen in the days of Zimoil and Znoc. They were very competent, only unplanned Indeni shut downs caused problems e.g the Indeni fire of 1998.

    This govt has used Tazama to import crude oil. Tazama’s competency is pumping. They have never imported oil before. Why did they stop using Indeni. May be Total has not allowed them to do so.

  83. cont from #76]

    The price of oil has gone down because of 3 reasons.

    1. There is less demand for the comodity.
    2. There aren’t enough dollars to pay for the oil.
    3. Banks have tightened lending.

    With these reasons, it is only natural that the price will go down. OPEC is trying to push up the price by cutting the supply of oil. It is only natural once again that the price will go up but it wont rebound as much because economies are getting poorer, the automotive industry is facing bankruptcy (spelling)and there are many widely accepted alternatives available in this age (electric car, hydrogen, bio fuels, etc). All this will affect the price of oil. It will rebound but my [tbc

  85. cont from #83]

    PREDICTION is it wont rebound as much.

    The govt needed dollars to pay for oil. It borrowed these dollars from a bank on interest. Banks have raised their interest rates because they are trying to get more people to open those high interest savings accounts.

    The Kwacha is slipping against the dollar and govt has a pending debt. If it does not sale the fuel at the normal price, we stand to face debt and a blacklisting. [tbc

  87. #76 Free-Market fimo fimo, I refer you to my postings on #58 and #62. If there is any part you don’t understand please highlight…

  88. #76, i agree with Free Market Capitalist, what is causing this $ shortage is panic buying buy car dealers and holiday makers.
    But on fuel issue, Mumba is is not honest, fuel permits are issued by him,hedge contracts am sure could have been signed by his office.Now if all this was done where is the truth.

    Everyone is accusing the Economic down turn, even for things not related to it.

  89. # 34 Ba Moze

    The rescue package is short term. They anticipate further gains(kwacha) from the exporters selling dollar to meet tax and monthend obligations. They expect a steady and slightly stronger kwacha by year end.

    We also need to note that the price of fuel has gone down worldwide and Zambia only made a marginal downward adjustment in Oct/Nov. The govt assured the nation for further reduction to meet the current trend worldwide.

  90. MMD is but full of deceit in the way they do things. When the price of crude oil goes up, they are quick through the useless ERB to up the prices of petroleum products here in zambia. When the price of crude oil goes down, nothing happens. The current reduction of the price of crude oil is a good example. Crude was trading on an average of US$180 per barrel and now the same has come down to below US$50 per barrel. MMD, through ERB has not made any downward adjustments to my amazement. the reason being advanced that the Kwacha has depreciated is not well founded. The effect of Kwacha depreciation can be wiped out by the crude oil reduction margin hence reduced fuel prices.

  91. #80 Rogue Trader

    I think what is happening is that the Govt has taken on a job they are not qualified for. Look at the players involved. Historically, Zimoil and later Znoc imported crude oil. They had built up a skill base and comptency to do that. Having done away with these companies, the Govt asked TST and then Total int to import. Total did this thru Indeni Refinery, which had never imported crude oil before but only processed it. I dont know why Govt is now using Tazama Pipelines to import. Tazama has never imported crude oil before. Looks like Govt thru the Ministry of Enery is actually in control. But Govt has never imported crude oil before. As for ERB, they are suckers.

  92. cont from #86]

    China and Japan has one of the worlds largest dollar reserves at the moment. Many economies are looking to China in order to get China’s dollars.

    Unless OPEC suddenly starts accepting the Kwacha, as long as the dollar is gaining, oil prices will probably increase.

  93. What we are witness in Zambia is a concoction of failed leadership coupled with corruption. RB and ERB have failed to plan the logistics of fuel supply in Zambia. For one, if BP and other OMC’s supplies were to last up to December, there was no need to bring the expensive PTA bank financed crude oil bought at higher November market prices, when the same shipment would have been scheduled and delivered at even lower crude oil prices in December. Corruption and negligence need to be investigated. These are the old tricks in the trade. You removed ZNOC and its young managers who were against this nonsense so that you can continue your old tricks. We are courting your crimes.

  94. I like calling this opposit econmic,everything in africa is opposite to Europe,US and other developed Nations.

    In Zambia interest rates are raising,when in Europe, USA they are getting to almost Zero to stimulate local demand.

    Zambia, what has gone wrong mother zambia.

  104. I agree with ba number 71’peolple who are blave and truthful are never wanted. Viva Muteteka people voted for you to speak on there behalf and not become a coward like Teta and Mpombo who are just there to threaten others in order to satisfy their personal interests! shame!!!!!!!!!!! may more curssings shower upon them and their families.

  106. #58. Uwakwisano

    A perpetual inventory system is used in the oil industry in Zambia. Like I said, oil is bought in US Dollar, govt borrows money to finance the oil purchase. Govt has to pay back the loans on INTEREST.

    If govt delays in the oil payments, there will be penalty fees. Oil companies bought oil from other places as you read in the article. That meant there was oil lying around somewhere which was not used and cleared. Until the oil companies clear their current oil reserve and buy from govt, we are stuck with the current oil and a pending debt.

  107. #91 Cont. Business practice was that before you bought the crude oil, you asked the OMCs to give you their projected consumption of petrol, diesel etc over next 3 to 6 months. So you got your market demand, which committed the OMCs too. Then you bought the crude oil to be loaded at time to suit storage and market consumption. The role of Tazama and Indeni was to store, pump, process and store for the market. All relations were strictly based on contract, with contractual obligations. The OMCs would never have clogged up the system with imports like in this case. Everyone would have known about storage capacity and its utilisation. These storage tanks are not owned by OMCs. Sleepy chaps!

  110. I cant believe what my eyes have just seen.

    Tell me is it really you sony.My brother I tell you I missed you.Vintu vaipa Pano pa site.We have two Baby C’s.Most of the bloggers are in bad moods today.But as usual Matworld is still the same.cawama sony wabwera.Give me a big hug >:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<>:d<

  113. Me am in a bad mood bcoz I have eaten the last mbeba and now they tell me the exports have stopped because of tenision in the country imagine 😮

  116. This was probably the only opportunity to have low fuel prices in Zambia. It has gone down the drain, under RB’s watch!!! Shame.

  118. :o, This is what we call incompetence at the highest levels. Iwe chi Peter Mumba, I remember you as our lecturer back in the day at CBU! This is the problem with turning academicians into technocrats! These blokes are clueless, and can’t manage even a simple kantemba! Super Ken was a man of humble education yet had great vision & foresight compared to these morons…God help us!

  120. ‘“The consequences of going into a huge debt are that the financiers may in future refuse to fund any shipment for the country,” he said.’

    Why are we always borrowing. Does it mean that we can not buy things on cash as a country?

    =; for 2011 – ecHi-ecHi waboola.

  125. #120. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe

    The day you find a country that accepts our Kwacha over the US Dollar is the day your question can hold ground.

  127. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe

    welcome my bro.i really missed you.
    I have been looking and waiting for you.

    I have one question which I have failed to answer so I thought you are the right person to help me,that is if you are Pro Hakainde,and that’s if you dont mind.

  128. Matworld-Nice guy! My friend,why are yOu still talking about the past?We are tired of the story about Baby C’S.You never know.

  129. Matworld you have made me laugh.. you like zoe don’t you?? Mwandi I’m happy for you boyi! You deserve to be happy! She seems sweet, and intelligent!

  130. Just what does the Energy Regulation Board (ERB) regulate? Illegal fuel vendors? I think we have a punch of Jokers up there.

    For October elections, RB reduced fuel prices by removing some tax. He promised to reduce prices further. What was the basis of that promise. Did he know what he was talking about. Can he tell the nation on what grounds he made tyhat promise. We need leaders who know what they talk about, not empty chatter boxes.

    Magande was forced to cut funds on other projects to compensate for the lost fuel tax. I guess Musokotwane will not allow such fuel price reductions again. RB, where did you come from?

  133. 122. Sony Ericsson Phiri and 125. Free-Market-Capitlst greetings and keep well.

    I like your contribution #125, but does it mean that scrapping off the use our our kwacha and using the US Dollar under an agreement with the US will be the best solution?

    Also, do you think that these problems can be solved if we adopt a single currency for SADC countries? Can this move help Zimbabwe too? If this is true, why then are we dilly-dallying on such a possible great move? =; 4 Zambia in 2011.

  134. Why all this decadency in this mmd govt? This is surely not the way to run a govt. Come on RB, get your act together. Take your rickety cabinet for a retreat and try to think together for a start.

  135. #58 Uwakwisano,
    It will not help you to use such simple arithmetic.
    Crude oil is NOT just bought and then taken to the fuel stations ready for pump price.
    There is a process of refinery which needs other imported inputs. Let us assume these the price of other imputs has not gone up; essencially that would mean in kwacha terms they have gone up due to the depreciation of the Kwacha.
    Machine servicing at Indeni is yet one of the many factors you need to consider. tell me which Co. manufactures machine service parts in Zambia. If not then the service parts have to be imported, and you still dont sense how the effect of exchange rate cannot be interpreted with your ‘math’.

  137. SWEET THANG I LIKE/LOVE EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL ON THIS SITE,ZOE HAS PROMISED ME LAUCH WHEN I GO TO ZAMBIA.SO THAT’S WHY WE WHERE BUSY.

  138. 127. Matworld-Nice guy! thanks and greetings. I am Pro-Hakainde, not only president Hakainde Hichilema but also the UPND manifesto, and please go ahead and ask me!

    I will try to respond to your quest to the best of my ability. =; 4 Zambia in 2011.

  139. Matworld – ok mwana! Go eat kasima!

    Baby C – the imposter will soon tire, but remember that if you react (by not commenting and letting him or her affect you mood) then he or she has won! The best thing you can do is just keep being yourself ok?? Come on girl we miss your contributions 🙂

  140. Sony Eric, yebo baba, tili po :d
    Just came from a Weihnachtsparty for Junior at school, I was the only dad. All other kids had brought their Mamas along, it was fun.
    About the fuel, I think we should be concentrating on food at the momment. What good is a full tank when your pantry is empty?

  141. #133. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe

    These problems can be solved in a few ways. One of them is increasing trade with China, India and Japan since they currently have the worlds largest USD reserves. The other being start producing bio-fuels to make the country self sufficient.

    Unfortunately even if the SADC had to come up with a single currency, it would not be widely accepted because it is African. Like expectations play a big role in the demand for goods and services, the same is true with currency.

  143. Ek (I) see. But how about Zim. whose people are mashrooming in Livingstone trying to find themsleves because of trouble with their Zim. Dollar? Surely the effects of currency disparities in Southern Africa are causing us to be in trouble. Look at how normal the Botswana Pula and South African Rand are fairing although they have their own turbulences from time-to-time. I am particularly impressed with how the euro has harmonised things here in the EU. Even borders do not seem to exist and yet these guys fought against each other in the World Wars while we have have been close together as Southern Africans or Africans tooth and nail but integration is seemingly tricky for us. DivideNrule!

  145. Dear Maestro Hhehhehhehhe

    Where is HH?
    Why is it that he only exist when its time for elections.

    I cannot hide you I really wanted HH to bring change pa Zed,but its like he will never do that.
    He is not perfoming the duties of the opposition party.Iam sure you have done civics before.
    One duty of the opposition is to oppose the govt when they are not doing the right thing.
    Now that HH is quiet,tells me alot about him.
    its like all is well with him even when Zambians needs help from him.
    I have never heard him say anything about the economic crisis zed is facing.Is it because he thinks itk okay or what? to tell you the truth HH has really disapointed me.
    8->8->8->8->8->

  147. Hey Maestro Hhehhehhe,welcome back.But carefull with your comments on Sata.Dont be like Chi dull Fine! The barger is just an extra Laggage. You went into oblivion like your Upnd and HH.Its great you are back!

  149. #145. Matworld-Nice guy!

    All I see HH doing is calling RB names and blocking a convention. HH has really disappointed me and I don’t him anymore.

    I think it is about time we had a woman as president. This is why I am endorsing Sylvia Masebo for 2011 (until a credible candidate enters the political arena).

  150. #141 May be regional trade can make use of the Sadc currency, not that I have thought about such currency. The Euro has been around for some years but the world still trades in US dollar. I guese Eurozone countries appreciate the Euro more than others, inclusing that English. In my opinion, political instability like Zimbabwe’s can damage a Sadc currency.

    As for Zed, may be we should concentrate on stabilising ZMK forex by diversifying our economy. If it wasnt for ZMK depreciation, Zambia could have enjoyed lower fuel prices like all of us outside Zambia are doing right now.

  151. 147. Anonymous, greetings and thanks fellow countrymate. Have a blessed day.

    I have nothing anymore to discuss about the Undereducate for he is just a time waste and an entertain to me. Zambia deserves more serious leadership than recycled material that has failed to move us from these troubles of debt and failure to clean our Nation since independence although hats off to former President kaunda who did a great job.

    So do not worry fellow countryperson for I am only going to restrict my comments of progress as this is the 21stCentury and not freedom fighting time to gain independence.

    Have a blessed day.

  152. #149 Free-Market-Capitalist,

    Surely you don’t consider Sylvia Masebo a credible and preferrable Presidential candidate do you? I certainly hope not because she is not Presidential material. Just the thought brings shivers down my spine

  153. #145 May be HH is only interested in State House and not the people. Elections present him with an opportunity to get to State house, not fuel or mealie meal prices or hunger. That’s why HH and Sata split the No-MMD votes. Greedy chaps.

  154. Dear Maestro Hhehhehhehhe

    Where is HH?
    Why is it that he only exist when its time for elections.

    I cannot hide you I really wanted HH to bring change pa Zed,but its like he will never do that.
    He is not perfoming the duties of the opposition party.Iam sure you have done civics before.
    One duty of the opposition is to oppose the govt when they are not doing the right thing.
    Now that HH is quiet,tells me alot about him.
    its like all is well with him even when Zambians needs help from him.
    I have never heard him say anything about the economic crisis zed is facing.Is it because he thinks itk okay or what? to tell you the truth HH has really disapointed me.

    8->8->8->

  156. 145. Matworld-Nice guy! Thanks very much for “Dear Maestro …Where is HH? Why is it that he only exist when its time for elections…. I have never heard him say anything about the economic crisis zed is facing.Is it because he thinks itk okay or what?”

    Great questions my friend and I tell you the truth president HH is doing a great job back home. It is only that the media hasn’t been covering him well, but he is religiously doing his part in the opposition cycles. I will put for you some articles on him since elections ended here under and just keep following my subsequent contributions.

    HH’s media coverage troubles need both yours and my help for all to notice his activities.

  157. See people, across the Global, we are seeing govts giving Citizens incentives to cushion the inpact of the crisis and reduction in fuel prices is one of them. People are juggling to make earn meet and numbers are not adding up at the end of the month. Why can’t this govt privide for the people by reducing fuel. Crude oil has dropped andwhy Zambia can’t benefit.

    Anyway, F#$$K this govt!

  158. 154. Matworld-Nice guy! I am working on your assignment and just give me a few minutes and I will come up with data, data, …., data for you.

  160. “Rupiah should admit his failures, says HH
    Written by Gloria Siwisha
    Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:48:42 AM

    PRESIDENT Rupiah Banda should admit his failures to come up with workable policies for the people of Zambia instead of hiding behind the global financial crisis, opposition UPND president Hakainde Hichilema said yesterday.”

    Source: maravi. blogspot. com/ 2008/ 12/ rupiah- should- admit- his-failures- says. html

  161. HH’s persistent problem is that he has not been able to make a name for himself with regard to publicly championing the Zambian people’s cause and actively opposing the government on the necessary issues. Sata may be a “snake” like many call him, but he at least realizes that he needs to adopt a populist stance. Sata is making noise about something as basic and important as mealie meal prices. Like it or not, the average person pays attention. HH is, on the other hand, rather quiet. It is things like this that keep Sata alive and somewhat popular. HH should take a leaf from that.

  163. #160 cont.
    “It is clear that President Banda had no plans for this country because if he had, he was not going to take the issue of increasing his own salary as top priority on his agenda. Instead, he would have worked towards improving the lives of the people of Zambia,” Hichilema said. “My heart bleeds for the Zambian people.”

  164. #163 cont.
    “How can he proudly show his face in public now when he knows he told lies during his campaigns?” asked Hichilema, “He just has to hide it as is always the case, liars always try come up with other lies to cover up the last ones. But I would like to believe that Zambians can see through him now and will definitely take him to task if he does not fulfil earlier promises.”

    =; 4 Zambia in 2011.

  165. “The exchange rate is too high and already it’s clear the markets have already started losing confidence in Rupiah Banda’s government. One wonders where our late president’s legacy is,” he said.

    =; 4 Zambia in 2011.

  166. “President Banda promised that he would reduce the price of fertiliser, has it happened? No! Look at the two companies the government has contracted to distribute fertiliser; he is failing to pay them. This is another disaster on their part,” said Hichilema.

    “The government has an obligation to take care of its people but the problem is that government is refusing to accept advice. They take it that we are insulting them when in fact we are not. They should not forget that we are also part of the Zambian people and are feeling the impact of the economic crisis.”

    =; 4 Zambia in 2011.

  167. #151,Maestro Hhhehhehhe, welcome back.But why do you start by saying the undereducated Sata.We love him, am educated and i support Sata. Where is your HH,he is nowhere to be seen.And he will appear in 2011.And so are the people like Miyanda and others.But Sata has continued to show his rare special leadership qualities.There are serious issues in the country.And a leader who loves the people of Zambia wouldnt keep quiet like your HH.Where is he? Isa fye bwino boyi.dont desturb me oke! Where is your Hakainde uwalemana with his degrees? into Oblivion ha!

  168. 161. Ici Shinka has written interesting points #154. The tricky part is that a few media people harbour colossal hatred on president HH. Even when they do cover him, just observe, the Undereducate’s name will be on the headline, but HH’s much more informative comments will be in the main body after one or two paragraphs are written about toothless words of the Undereducate.

    So, our onlyhope is to meet the voters and provide SOLUTIONS directly to the people who are being affected instead of trying to reverse the hatred that some media owners have on president HH.

    Even now on the fuel crises, I am sure the migty UPND is working on providing a workable solution to the Zambians in all.

  169. 167. Chewe, thanks very much and how are you. I have been refraining from using on commenting on ‘… the undereducated Sata’ and this is ‘why … start by saying the undereducated’ since I avoid writing his name so as to keep tempers of people like you down.

    The Undereducate calls president HH under5 – which is not true – and most of you cry out laughing, but when I use the truth about the PF leader by referring to him as the “Undereducate” you want to crucify me. Where then is the morality in respecting other people’s opinion if you only want to demean the democratically elected president HH while you are hurt by truth on the PF leader who has never been elected to lead PF?

  170. Iwe Chi Maestro,i thought you have come back with substance.But it seems your big head is stil as empty as usual. Sata is showing that he is there for the people at all times.I cant just imagine what the mmd would do if sata was not there to keep them on their toes.Only shallow creatures with big heads that are useless can say that on Sata. Desappear we chipuba!

  171. 170. Anonymous, noe need to be emotion or even insult my friend. The truth is the truth.
    Look at China, and even India, they do not have noise useless noise makers like the Undereducate but they are doing very well in their economy. What we need are solutions to problems.
    China and india have demonstrated that it is not the foreigners who will bring solutions to develop their countries but the indeginous people of those two respective countries. The FDI for China and India respectively are 10% and 15%. In Zambia, a foreign can own even upto 100% of the business without paying tax also – I stand to be corrected on this one though.
    So, if HH is thinking about solutions this is best way.

  173. Whether people like it or not, Sata’s antics keep critical issues on the table for the Government to act on and for people to continue talking about them and demanding action from the Government. You talk about intelligence as though that in itself is the solution to the problem! It does not take brains to know that things are not right with Zambia and something needs to be done about it. The planned demonstrations, in my opinion, are the mouth piece needed to get this government of its butt and start to do something. Why do government officials need to go on fact-finding missions to ‘assess the extent of hunger’ what kind of nonsense is that?

  174. #172 Naine Sarah, thats what am doing …. am disappointed boss ati no bonuses sure. so i have to go home and calmly explain to the wife what ‘CREDIT CRUCH, GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS and GOVT INEFFICIENCY’ mean. Last time i told her about WAGE FREEZE, she wanted to meet him and sort him out …

  175. 173. Twachula Pafula, I assure you that I am 100% for the demonstrations because Zambia is a democracy.

    However, we need to realise that it is not PF who need to organise the demonstrations as an opposition party, but people can do them with political affiliations when there is need.

    When I was a UNZA, there was one lectuurer whom I used to play football with who demonstrated alone against something – maybe the Third Term. So, individuals can actual peacefully demonstrate without the Undereducate forcing them to go in mass numbers but out of personal interest and will.

    The solutions I am writing about on here have to do with the economy in an intelligent manner. That is it.

  176. #174, allow me to join in although I am uninvited on your comment.

    I am now meant to believe that we like misusing words and terms in Zambia.

    At one time it was ‘State Counsel’, then ‘New Deal’ and now everything is blamed on ‘GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS’. I do not know if many of us are duped or gullible, but let us be economical in using words and solving our problems as a Nation Zambia.

    Otherwise, we will be a laughing stock of every other world citizen. I think, it is only in Zambian news articles where everything is blames on the ‘GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS’ while other countries like South Africa and Zimbabwe tone down on its usage.

    Let us grow up!

  177. 175. Maestro.
    SO are you saying that if the demonstrations had been organized by another organization, individual or party, then it would make it more legitimate and peaceful for people to join in????

    So when will this need to demonstrate arise?

    I am not a PF member but I am glad that they have provided a forum that will allow me to voice my displeasure at what is happening now. As an UNZA graduate myself, I know that there is definitely strength in numbers.

  179. 177. Twachula Pafula, not really on your “SO are you saying that if the demonstrations had been organized by another organization, individual or party, then it would make it more legitimate and peaceful for people to join in????”
    I am on record here that I totally support the demonstrations. I also supported the walking out from parliament of PF MPs. I personally have no problem with the Undereducate. Even this name for him I use depicts the truth about him. If I were him I would even gradly use it whereever I go fr it it the truth.
    So, the Undereducate is a good and great guy, but he doesn’t have the CV to be president of Zambia. That is where I do not support his Pres. candidature.

  182. UMUGAZEBO and FAMILY
    You are funny. I love those names. I bet Nyama Soya will name his next child Global Crisis Banda! :d

  184. 179. Maestro.

    Well, I am of the opinion that we can all have dissenting views about any person’s presidential ambitions but we are defined by bigger causes that affect all of us beyond any party lines. Maybe you could benefit a lot more from seeing the bigger picture as opposed to defining everything within the context of ‘the undereducated.’

  185. The truth of the matter is that evrything is hard for Rb except giving Sugar during the campaign.Now that the campaign is over there is nothing RB can do apart from trying to create an impression that MMD has answers to our problems.I totally disagree with those of you who think Sata is not presidential material.Im not PF but I can see that its not all about having been to the best Universities.A very practicle example is this:there are some engineers running big plants but technicians are running their own companies earning millions.I think is all about being wise and making good use of manpower.MMD has failed us.

  186. What is happening in Zambia is so depressing. Enlightened citizens have talked and expressed their opinions but nothing seems to be working, peaceful demonstrations have been banned and dialogue with the incompetent leaders is what is being pushed for. But we all know the fruitless results of dialogue which are more expenses arising from allowances and wasted time. for those that can seriously pray, please pray for Zambia, just like the israelites cried out to God in Egypt and he came to deliver them from the oppression of the egyptians , we need serious prayers for God to intervene and deliver us from these oppressive,missappropriators and incompetent leaders.

  188. Majority of Zambians are really suffering, no food, no proper health facilities and they are just being taken advantage by incompetent people. We need to seriously pray as some of the things happening in Zambia are spiritual, instead of some leaders being elected on merit others go to witchdoctors to be in power suppressing those who are competent because they are afraid to stand up against them and challenge them. We need the power of God to bring a number of altars down so that we may see problems for what they really are and sort them out in the natural way. Secondly Zambians need to be empowered on their civic rights and start to exercise them.

  189. 186. New Zambia.

    Prayers without any action on our part will yield nothing. GOd helps those who help themselves. God did not put Rupiah Banda in State House, it was a fraudulent electoral system perpetuated by a few selfish people that did and also the lack of interest in voting (apathy) that sealed the deal. The situation is what it is but the solution calls for each and every one of us to come together and tell these people that enough is enough. They need to hear it from the people themselves and not in some fancy hotel sitting at round table discussions with the so called stakeholders!

  191. I CANNOT SAY GOD PUT RB THERE OR HE DID NOT.ONE THING I WONT ACCEPT IS THAT EVERY LEADER IS GOD GIVEN.NO!!I DONT THINK GOD GAVE AMINI TO THE UGANDAS:NEITHER DO I THINK HITLER WAS GOD GIVEN.THE BIBLE TELLS ME EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT GIFT COMES FRM HIM &I KNOW THAT HE ALLOWS CERTAIN THINGS FOR A REASON.ZAMBIA WILL ONE DAY BE MUCH BETTER THAN IT IS.ONE THING THOSE OF US WHO THINK ARE EDUCATED SHOULD DO IS GET INVLOVED AND CONTRIBUTE AT ALL LEVELS.I PRAY THAT INVETSMENT POLICIES CAN BE CHANGED.WE BELIEVE TOO MUCH IN FOREIGN INVESTMENTS TO AN EXTENT WHERE WE ARE NOT INVOLVING OUR PEOPLE AS PARTNERS IN THESE INVESTEMENTS.

  192. This topic is boring, so I thought I could write someone here a few poetic words for a change:

    I stood silently by the window of my bedroom
    Gazing upon the starry veil of the night
    It just reminds me of you
    And my heart is drifting afar in the air
    Where are you now? What are you doing?
    There goes the shadow of your beauty and the of warmth of your smile
    Happiness was forfeited and now loneliness lingers by
    So seriously, so painfully, I begin to cry
    Where are you? Where are you my _________?

    Nine Chale

    PS: Name of addressee deliberately withheld.

  194. #133 Maestro Hhehhehhehhe

    When one mentions the possibility of introducing a single currency for SADC, please remember the failures of the UAPTA and the COMESA Dollar. These were introduced by the Preferential Trade Area (PTA) and its successor COMESA. Consider the pitfalls and how they could be avoided.

  195. Ba Chale I signed out a long time ago,but Iam back my bro for you.Nowc I want you to promise me that you will stop Crying. :((:((:((:((.You are a great guy my friend and you dont have to be bored,so lets keep the fire burning.any compliment about my new glasses:-b:-b:-b:-b:-b

  196. arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhh!
    I have lost it big time. I feel like jumping up and down the govts head if it had one.
    Everyday its only sad news coming from Zambia. ~X(~X(~X(~X(:)]:)]

  198. God help us. The president says go and plant some maize but there are rumours of floods. whats going on God. :((:((:((:((

  199. Sarah Jones.

    God has heard your Prayer,and He will definately rescue our country from the floods.Please stop crying.Smile ;););)

  200. This is it now!!!!!!!!!!
    I’ll never read any news from Zambia as it is so depressing and annoying and with this weather in the Uk one can end up in a mental hospital.

    Kwasila.

  201. #135 Your analysis is like that of Peter Mumba. Can you give us the pricing formula used in the calculation of the price of Petroleum products. If we were to do a sensitivity analysis of all the factors affecting petroleum products pricing, certainly the price should come down by at least 25%. Apart from incompetence and corruption the other reason why they don’t want to reduce the price, is because the government wants to continue getting more tax revenues from petroleum products to pay for the recent salary increases to RB and book lickers in Government and NCC.

  202. Bottomline is RB has failed, excuese! excuses! excuses! I wonder how the Dollar is going to be to the Kwacha by 2011. He is the dullest President Zambia has ever had, what an embarrassment!

  209. Thanks you all for the contributions on and a bout me. Sorry I could not respond because I went for an end of year party for my institution which started about 19:30 hrs and ended some one hour ago. Apparently, I was chatting na-mpoopo yaku-Zed who is in South Africa on facebook and got carried away only to realise that I had only one hour to go to the restaurant we all had to meet near town centre. So, I left this LT thread without writing bye.

    Anyhow, I will try to respond to all concerns that have been expressed regard me with time now.

  211. #209 Maestro. I think you do even fear your shadow when you hear the name Of King Cobra. You are in opposition but all you concentrate on is calling Sata undergraduate in which way? Your hate is a black skull of someone who is naturally born to hate even those who have never done anything wrong against you. Maybe it is within your blood and it will never end. To be honest with you pipo like you can’t make good leaders because your hate is the inborn thing. If you potra youself as HH die hard supporter, then no wonder pipo see UNDP in different way. Sata speaks for a common man and up to now is still speaking for them. Your HH can’t be covered by the media coz nothing he is (TC0NTD

  212. CONTD: going to say for the common man on the street who has lost his job or has nt eaten two meals in a day. What you preach is hate and division. I know the truth pains and you will find it hard to accept. HH will never be president of Zambia if he continues to be in his current form. He needs pipo not like you who can reach out and create love, harmony, understanding and togetherness. To be in opposition you need to show you always care and not during elections.
    Maestro take care and I look forward to hear from you. Peace and love with you.

  213. 211. Pafwenamwine, greetings my fellow countryman. I am afraid you are putting words in my mouth on your “… you concentrate on is calling Sata undergraduate ….”

    Firstly, while your writing that Sata is an Undergraduate is not even true and painful to you probably I never anyway wrote such a statement. I thus challenge you to quote my writing on such a term. In case you do not know I will give you the definition of Undergraduate in the following postings. However, I again reiterate that Micheal Chilufya Sata is a Undereducate clearly rewritten as Under-educate as two words made into one. This is truth as of the past and now. I challenge you and MC Sata to disprove me on this one.

  214. The nick name for Micheal Chilufya Sata known as Undereducate thus simply means that the brother ba-shikulu MC Sata does not have enough formal education. I coined this term from facts that were presented in the Times of Zambia Newspaper with comments attributed to Minister Mike Mulongoti that according to GRZ records available, Micheal Chilufya Sata only went up to Standard 4 in school. According to my mother who is younger than the Undereducate by about ‘ years or so, people attended “Sub A” and “Sub B” before entering standard “Standard 1”. This entails that the Undereducate, Micheal C Sata, only had 6 years of school education assuming he was never a repeater. Whatever the case/odds ..

  215. #214 continued.
    Whatever the case or odds, the Undereducate, Micheal Chilufya Sata, only went upto Standard 4 which now can only be classified as being equal to Grade 6. This means that the man MC Sata needs to write atleast Grade 7 exams to enable him be credible to even be a qualified carpenter – by obtaining some craft certificate in that trade.

    So, where is the “Your hate is a black skull of someone who is naturally born to hate even those who have never done anything wrong against you” in my writings that Micheal Chilufya Sata is an/the Undereducate, #211 Pafwenamwine?

    I need/demand this answer from you so I can address your sentiments on #
    212 Pafwenamwine.

  216. Following my promise on #213 above that “Pafwenamwine,… I am afraid you are putting words in my mouth on your “… you concentrate on is calling Sata undergraduate … Sata is an Undergraduate is not even true and painful to you probably I never anyway wrote such a statement.” Here is why I wrote the above: type “define: undergraduate” in google search engine and you will get the following results:
    Definitions of undergraduate on the Web:
    1.a university student who has not yet received a first degree
    2.A student who is studying their first degree. This usually takes three or four years of full-time study.

    Clearly, the Undereducate, M.C. Sata, falls short of the term Undergraduate as of now.

  217. Some bloggers on this site need ‘URGENT’ PSYCHIATRY assessment and possible admission to psychiatry hospital… :-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?@-)@-)@-)@-)@-)@-)@-)@-)@-)@-)@-)%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-%%-

  218. Regarding any other information that I might have given on this blog or elsewhere about the school education level of Micheal Chilufya Sata, the Undereducate, THE above FACTS MUST NOW OVERRIDE ALL OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS ON THIS MATTER.I now clarify them for all to quote me, Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, regarding Micheal Chilufya Sata’s level of education if they so wish that the man is as good as a Grade 6 school drop out since he is a Standard 4 school drop out following GRZ records to Minister Mike Mulongoti. Anyone with better details must provide us with them so that we settle this MATTER of Micheal C. Sata being known as “the Undereducate”.
    Since I love Sata, I ask him to sit for Grade 7 exams.

  220. Nowadays, even to be a house maid, you need minimum qualifications and so why must we overlook this important issue the the highest office of our territory and population, President of Zambia.

    Also, the issue of age limit is very import for each profession. I propose that one must qualify to be a maid if and only s/he is between the age of 40 – 55 years.

    Similarly, a Zambian Presidential candidate must be between 30 – 65 years of age so that anyone above 70 does not qualify body physical fitness and health. Also, such must have a Masters Degree in any field and worked in GRZ civil service for atleast 2 years. NCC, please take note of this. **==

  221. Nowadays, even to be a house maid, you need minimum qualifications and so why must we overlook this important issue on the highest office of our territory and population, President of Zambia.

    Also, the issue of age limit is very import for each profession. I propose that one must qualify to be a maid if and only s/he is between the age of 40 – 55 years.

    Similarly, a Zambian Presidential candidate must be between 30 – 65 years of age so that anyone above 70 does not qualify on body physical fitness and health. Also, such must have a Masters Degree in any field and worked in GRZ civil service for atleast 2 years. NCC, please take note of this. **==

  222. 221
    I agree with you entirely on age. But i differ with you on qualifications. One can have a doctorate but behave like some one who has just come from a village. Look at Ludwig Sondashi with due respect, is the man fit to be called Doctor. Education is not the pinnacle of wisdom but morals and natural upbringing. Look at how most the Doctors and Professors at UNZA and CBU, have failed to run tuntemba, even for those from the school of business. To me education should be the criteria only up to Grade 12 or one should be able to read and write, as long as they are young and energetic, not old and tired and easily able to sleep off even at important gatherings.

  223. #222.KWINDI,good try and I respect your opinion.However, I feel that a Grade 12 knows very little to be able to understand complex issues. Thus, I maintain that someone who has done some research work to a level of a full or partial Dissertation under the instruction of supervisors is able to listen to advice as opposed to a Grade 12.Also,our Zambian Grade 12 simply has a binch of O-levels (Ordinary) while both South Africa Metric Grade 12 and Zimbabwean form 6 have A-levels (Advanced). So I really think that our Grade 12 level is too weak to enable someone have an analytical mind.The Zambian Undegraduate education has little research activities to allow critical thinking and consultations.

  224. even china which already sells fuel cheaply yesterday announced pump fuel reductions due reduced ccrude oil on world market.what is wrong with zed pipo?what have we done to deserve such unjust treatment back home?do we need economists to understand simple logic that escalating prices of goods have direct connections with fuel prices?kaya kwena!

  225. To be a house maid one needs to have minimum qualifications? Where is that in Zambia?

    I do not see that happening n the UK! May be after a 1000 years.

  226. Maestro, well and good though most of the academic qualifications you have put down are to a higher degree identifiable with managment, eg in a coporate area. Unfortunately to be president the first thing is ability to connect with people, hence the term “politics.” Most people with qualifications you have mentioned think they are entitled to be rich even through plunder or ridding on poor people’s heads! For president one also has to be a leader who can marshal all those with ma masters to work deligently with good pay.And that leader may or may not have even the first degree.Grade 12 and in good health would be enough.Those degrees can be added advantage for articulation if one can.

  227. #
    225. your flag Anonymous, in Lusaka you hire trained house maids. Unfortunately, I will take a lot of time to get you this information since I am very far away now.

  228. #226.Ziyalolo,impressive,but I tell you the true look at Malasia a country Zambia was a the same level with in the 1970s and the way their politics are done.Only Masters Degree holders go to Parliament I AM WELL informed.
    So, why must Zambia stick to models that have failed us over 44 years of independence when our friends in the far east are making it with a model that uses well educated leaders. Think,do Chinese wait for their model to work or they simply copy and implement new WORKING technology on the market in continuing to expand their economy?
    PhDs and Post-Docs are too academic,but Masters is enough for someone to learn to be humble in dealing with issues.
    For once, lets move on!

  229. A degree is very essential. But do you know that some discoveries were made by people whon did not have college education like that black American who ventured into cardiac surgery. Ukwimba kati….You need to have natuary ability in addition. Some of graduates have completely failed to improve their lot because they depend so much on the certificates

  230. #226. Ziyalolo
    I would like to state that the constitution needs revision.
    Connecting with people should not be the main qualification for presidence.
    Education must be made to be the main qualification if we are to have development come to this country.
    Grade 4 mentality will not take us anywhere; that is why some of these people had been in govt for 37 years but they brough nothing other than boast about fly-over bridge, merzaf and renovated mortuary at UTH. They even compose a song for public sisnging over it. Educated people have achieved much more for this country than renovate a mortuary, and build fly-over but they dont sing.

  231. 229.Seen it Before,that is why there is voting to screen the non-performing graduates out of the race! Now that you wrote “But do you know that some discoveries were made by people whon did not have college education like that black American who ventured into cardiac surgery,” this is good because we do not have to shun using medical surgery but use it to human beings’ benefit without delay.Check my question on the chinese’s way of adopting new working technology without sticking to old stuff that is no longer useful or that has outlived its usefulness.Even Holy Scriptures indicate that the former things are past but the new ones are what counts.The sooner Zambians wakeup to this,the better.

  232. The guys in Parliament increased their salaries, the main arguements were that people like CEO’s and MD’s get more money than them. So, degrees (BSc & MSc) should be part of qualifications for public office. So, won’t complain if they get good salaries. Imagine, Vera Chiluba, getting more money than a medical doctor, Engineers in government ministries and even maestro Hhehhehhehhe, it aint fair

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    232. your flag ESK, true to a good extent. I liked your “Imagine, Vera Chiluba, getting more money than a medical doctor, Engineers in government ministries and even maestro Hhehhehhehhe, it aint fair”.

    Such are more reasons why we as Zambians need to take our Parliament and Cabinet formation with the seriousness they deserve. We can do it and I believe the 2011 elections are critical if by 2021 we want to see a Lusaka that is more mike Harare or Jo’burg pa-neighbour mu SADC compound mwathu.

  235. Maestro if you are going to use education as a weapon to those who may have not had a chance to go to universties or colleges it is a shame. As much as you are educated as me and others we may not be intelligent to deliver the best. Education doesn’t make you intelligent only puts your food on the table. Vera maybe not be educated but she can do better than Doctors or degree holders. If the constitution will restrict pipo not to stand for political positions then abuse of human right is evident to deny someone the right to vote or occupy political position. There is only one zambia for all Zambians regardless of their status. To avoid violence the constitution as to be inclusive.

  236. but bwezani!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mwandi pipo we are stuck.wat has the current value of the kwacha has to do with the reduction in fuel prices.this stock was bought when the kwacha was stronger(k3200).alelanda kwati tuli baice who cant think.Rupiah get yourself pipo who can think as advisors.your cabinet is full of jokers.

  238. Good morning to you all, Omuchende Maestro Hhehhehhehhe ino wakali kuli? Bob Sichinga & Chibamba Kanyama are on Radio Phoenix on “Let the People Talk Programme”, I thought I should let you all know!

  239. 235. Pafwenamwine, I am not getting it as to why you are scared. Education is not a weapon to kill anyone,but simply something that all humans appreciate. Everyone in this life has a place to fit in somewhere somehow.Ask yourself why not all people apply for the position of human resources managers in a company that advertises such a position. Consider that people will have have all sort of qualifications and so, you will not see a Medical Doctor applying to be a human resources manager since his/her field is different. The Undereducate and other undereducates can have things to do also. Some Grade 9 drop outs do tailoring which they succeed in. Let us promote and empower all to do well.

  240. 239 continued.
    Let us promote and empower all Zambians to do well at their levels of education and according to their trades. The MMD currently offers free education upto grade 12, I think, and no one has to claim that he cant go to school. Even the Undereducate, Micheal C. Sata, can sit for Grade 7 examinations next year in November or December. He can later skip Grade 8 and study hard to write Grade 9 exams in 2010 if he can pass the Grade 7 ones next year.
    There is no reason to allow a Grade 9 drop out and an ACCA graduate to apply for a position of financial director in a company or GRZ department for the former clearly lacks skills and knowledge.

  241. Look at how the Undereducate misconstrued the CONSTITUTION ON THE TERM OF OFFICE OF A ZAMBIA PRESIDENT WHO would win the 2008 Presidential Bye Election to say he will rule until 5 years end in 2013.Did Sata MC say that out of skill and knowledge through education or even WISDOM?Gentlemen and ladies,let us not continue to buy cheap clothes from China and always complain that their are not jobs in Zambia when they are Grade 6 drop outs like Sata MC who could have been operating successful clothing companies with fellow undereducates.This is my point,not all of us have to play football. I am a fine Chess player but I had to go for Physics since I felt it was my best choice although I be GM§

  242. Education is not a weapon to destroy anybody,it is just there to ensure that we all pool our resources into a functioning economy that will bring food to all Zambians.Vera Chiluba can certainly do well by doing community service practically as a mother or owning a food business while he job can be given to problem solvers who will not always look to President RB for instructions on what to do next for this is overloading the old man (check yesterdays POST on his testimony being President) who needs to resting sometimes making plans on what to do when he leave State House in his free time than being bombarded with thoughts on puzzles for 20 Ministries to direct Ministers on what next to do.

  243. Well people you can’t really complain now can you? Most of you voted for this Govt so now lie in the bed you made for yourselves. This Govt. will be arrested for genocide with all of the people that will die from poverty.

  244. Please let us unite as Zambians and find solution to such issues of fuel price and food. Why are we suffering like this? Is it true that we have leadership crisis? can some one explain this situation.

  245. this blog is dead,so many juveniles sneaking in,Ba LT can we please have some limits, otherwise the whole purpose of this blog has now been defeated.
    My men Prof at Oxford university,Mr mwinga,pragamist,Gaga,Rass Rated, where are you at,remember them days when sense was the order of the blog,now we have more ladies and more feminish guys who contribute out of excitement and seek recognition.
    Its just a reflection of a society we are from,one does not need to go to zambia to know what type of a country it is,indeed this blog serves a reflection of our weird and shallow thinking personality,hence the reason we are led by people whose mind is the belly.

  246. the only solution to the problems been faced by Zambians is Prayer, our country has too much HATRED,all we need is a man of God to come and pray for our country, without prayer, we are worse than Zimbabwe, The right man of God we shoud invite for the country prayers is Pastor TB Johsua of Nigeria belive me or not.

    Remember Zambia! TIME WAISTED NEVER GAINED!

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