Opposition United Party for National Development (UPND) President Hakainde Hichilema has observed that the rejection by Parliament of the motion urging Government to put in place a roadmap for the enactment of a new constitution is a confirmation that PF will not deliver the constitution.
Parliament on Tuesday rejected by 69 to 42, a motion moved by Mazabuka Central MP Garry Nkombo urging the PF Government to put in place a roadmap for the enactment of a new republican constitution.
Mr. Hichilema told QFM News in an interview that the rejection of the motion is a clear indication that no PF official is willing to give Zambians what they were promised.
He said the PF government is mistakenly comforting itself if they think they will shelve the constitution making process just like that.
Mr. Hichilema said now is the time the Zambian people from all sectors of the society to be united and stand up for what rightfully belongs to them.
He said the opposition and other concerned stakeholders will not rest until the PF gives the people of Zambia a new constitution.
And MMD President Nevers Mumba told QFM News in a separate interview that the rejection of the motion in parliament is confirmation that the PF government has willingly denied the people of Zambia a people driven constitution.
Dr. Mumba said it is for this reason that some genuine opposition political parties, Church Mother Bodies, Civil Society Organizations and other relevant stakeholders will be holding a meeting over the weekend to strategize on the way forward.
The opposition have more than 42 Members of Parliament. Why only 42? They are also not willing to have a new constitution before 2016. Shame on them.
The rest are deputies to useless PF MPs.
@HRH
To the best of my knowledge it was Sata who pulled out his PF members from the process not HH and UPND.
Learn to get your facts right and articulate them in your arguments other wise you will be mistaken for a wimp who refuses to accept facts like Sata.
Come on go on HH, give Sata and his useless MPs a run for their money.
MORE PRESSURE PLEASE!
CONSTITUTION NOW OR WE SHALL MAKE THE COUNTRY UNGOVERNABLE. NEXT YOU SEE WOMEN PROTESTING .
Shakafuswa is the man of the moment in parley. He is not shy to call PF CNP in parley.
Now we need to get together and fight against the current form of the public order act.This act is meant for one party state not multi-party democratic system.
“Section3 of the Public Order Act subsection 1 reads subject as herein after provided any person who is in a public place or at any public meeting wears a uniform or displays any flag signifying his association with any political organisation or with a promotion of any political organisation is guilty of an offense”
VERY FUULISH OPPOSITION IN ZAMBIA.
The opposition only hold 42 seats partly because most their seays have stolen by pf in the name of nullifications let’s not forget that part. Since pf came to power how many of thrir parly seats have been nullified by the courts as compared to the ones belonging to opposition?
What rights? More like wrongs if you ask me!
The constitution is indeed important. But what else, what other things must we do to improve the country APART FROM politics of/on the CONSTITUTION? The United Kingdom UK has no written constitution and the UK functions under other institutions in place. What else must we really do and move on apart from the constitution? Can we think outside the new constitution?
Firstly the disgruntled, fragmented and disorganized opposition political parties must understand that the constitution making process has been undertaken by the PF govt on voluntary basis. No one forced them and no one can push them on something they volunteered to do themselves.
if they (PF) choose they can delay as long as they like and the opposition will do nothing over it.
The best the sloppy opposition can do is think outside the constitution box but that is not possible if you have a Bantustan leader in place obsessed with tribal and regional politics.
change the leadership to bring in new strategic thinking
Get up! Stand upI stand up for your rights! Don’t give up the fight. Bob Marley.
@One hit wonder. What rights are you talking about when your Party UPND refused to take part in any process of constitution making?
Is it not because the process is coming to fruition that HH and and his cohorts now want to be part of the process which they rejected?
Ma guys mulibe nzelu.
Iwe, Bob Marley was not a “one hit wonder”…….
Thats my pseudonym imwe bamataba – and the Bob Marley part is anti-plagarism. Where is Mushota to educate a few heads here? You are shunning away from the matter at hand to try and mess with me? I am neither PF nor UPND. I am truly Labour. I don’t influence politics in Zambia from my standpoint but I take a keen eye on following events and the news back home like most of you. A pound is trading at bl00dy KR10.00 tells you something’s gone catastrophically bonking wrong and that’s what you should worry about -not me.
HH did not vote for Pf so PF did not promise him anything and us who voted for PF we are not complaining about the constitution .
You see things clear.
HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN WHEN YOU CANT SEE BEYOND YOUR NOSE! YOU DONT HAVE ANY CLUE AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOUR POLITICAL LIFE, YOU HAVE BEEN USED,,,,,
@ 9chale,
Hihihihihihihihihihihi! Thats funny.
Spot on my bro
@EK
I pity you! Your cranial valves have blown and need replacing seriously for them to be able to retrieve info from the memory store.
Take care and have a nice day!
Because you are an i.diot hence don’t understand the importance of this document.
How many members of opposition are in parliament?If they are more than 42 then clearly some of them voted against the motion!This means the opposition is not united and they must just wait for the government to deliver the consitution at their own time.No amount of noise will persuade the government to deliver the constitution urgently.The chiefs have raised concern about the article taking away land abd vest it in the president and there must be many more articles that need revisiting so I dont see the urgency in delivering a half baked constitution!HH & NEVERS pls take your time!
Walasa.
Cowbell (HH) likes complaining a lot.
He likes running to foreign and local civil societies for refuge…
That quack TomBoy is somehow mistaken…
He wants to deny innocent Zambians to development which is taking place.
You still believe in Father Christmas?
Mr president hh, just start going round the country using to ma radio stations to condemn this criminal.u shud target 3 provinces namely northern,luapula and muchinga.i think these other provinces 7 of them have already resolved to vote for u.tel pipo how u r going to throw these criminals in jail to deter those who,ll aspire for office, pipo want that massage too.warn these criminals that there time of reckoning is nearing,pipo ,ll want to hear that too.pipo will want to c how these pompous criminals will languish in jail.
no @ MORE PLANS u r badly mistaken, no well meaning Zambian will vote for HH, if u come back home from diaspora u will realize Zambians can vote of anybody else but not HH, bcoz Zambians HATE tribalism, Zambians want the new constitution but not HH, pls read your politics correctly.
President Hichilema ke ke ke ke ke ke ke….and then with his tribal hatred the Nation will be thrown into ethnic cleansing?
I am in North Western Province. The only campaign he is using is and which is being taken well by many people here is “No vote for a Bemba”
Bemba in this case means PF. What wapt thinking!
Whoever will buy that should be living in the stone age.
If I were to vote for HH, surely I would vote for him because he is Zambian and mostly intelligent, and not because the man is Tonga or he hates Bembas.
HH,
I would like to know what mode of efforts united Zambians should make in order to bring Government officials on their Kneels? Aangezien (Looking at the current unfair detention of 42 youths just for wearing Tshirts demanding the contistution)
Am guessing government is ready to pound hard on any citizen that will speak against this issue, now …are Zambians willing to go through whatever it takes for the constitution? For with going forward means no looking back, therfore, if you and any opposition leaders are to embark on this journey, I say prepare everyone for a turbulant ride and take along only the die hards!
msinzang’anyi
By Zambians you mean PF cadres and treacherous MPs from MMD and UPND. Even those from other parties are Zambians. We’ll see what happens. Of course if the opposition political parties go to sleep, as they sometimes do during some elections” PF will use State machinery to “win” the 2016 elections.
Characters like Shakas should also be cautioned so that he does not give the PF govt an excuse to “use” the law to weaken the UPND. He is known for defecting to the ruling party when a carrot is dangled. As for MMD, ummmm, little hope there. FDD is dead with EZN at the helm. She is happy as long as a Northerner is President.
@Cindy
What happened to the 42 young girls is nothing compared to what we endured in KK. But where is he today?
What Sata and his PF are doing is arming every Zambian young and old man and woman to get ready for just that one day when a crystal clear message will be sent to Sata and his stooges that Zambians want him out urgently.
That day Cindy is fast approaching because Fuel price is going up at the end of this month by 15% triggering price hikes for every thing.
The PF can no longer afford to subsidise for the Kwacha depreciation against the dollar.And as such they will have increase the price of fuel to avert shortages.
As from next month on wards PF should prepare for more protests even food price riots unless they import more maize from SA.
UPND and HH only hope.
@Wanzelu,
I never right off anyone, life is full of surprises! HH is President material and for sure if he plays his cards right he will be at plot one come 2016!
One thing I would like to make clear is that any Zambian has the right to speak over the constitution if they dont then I doubt how Zambian they are!
You see things clearly bwana. Where I come from is now a disitrikiti. Choma is now a porovincial headquarters.
We never thought of it. I didn’t vote for Sata but now I am ashamed of myself.
2016 me and my house hold endorse Sata.
Everyone here in Nachimbuli is be hind PF.
We don’t want to disturb development.
We are happy with bottom road, Monze To Niko to mention a few…
Ba dala Ba Sata mutu gwaye kwambati lu sumpuko wi ndilile pesi muma dolopo onse Mu chisi chesu cha Zambia…
uyu HH twamukaka nswebo… mubyabi Maningi waka Ba Mali a chisi…
tatu Mu yandi pe!
@Magande. How was your ‘white’ breakfast with your white wife in white woodlands. You lie,you aint tonga. Stop abusing Honourable HIPC Magande.
Mukongo Wanyoko with your fake Tonga. malepe anyoko.Ask any Tonga will tell you what this means you i.d.i.o.t.
Poor HH is hurting over a none issue.
None Issue after all that expenditure and the hopes raised!! These comments are not coming from genuine Zambians. They do not care. Anyway, in any society there are negative elements. I still believe what the “old” PF stood for. The “new” PF has betrayed Zambians. “Old” refers to the PF before 20 September 2011.
Why didnt you talk about your fellow bemba nevers mumba who raised same issue at same time and same platform as HH.
Now therefore, we the bantu-botatwe say abash bakawalala nobabbi.
Good morning
So after failing to twist the arm of parley by walking out and disrupting proceedings with their rebellious actions in the past weeks, now they honestly think they can get it with ease?
In such matters as the constitution, a tug of war is not really worthwhile. The best strategy for the opposition is to support the government, no matter how long it takes to usher in a new constitution. UPND and MMD have neither lock nor key – PF has both. Whether they like it or not, they have no choice but to co-operate or wait for their turn to run the show, or they risk bearing an unnecessary workload and embarassing themselves in the end with the impracticality of their so-called “pressure” once PF suddenly delivers at own will.
NOW H.H URGES ALL ZAMBIANS TO UNITE & STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS NOT ONLY AGAINST BEMBAS WHEN HE PUBLICLY SAID & I QUOTE,
“WE PEOPLE FROM NORTH WESTERN RHODESIA SHOULD UNITE. IF WE GIVE POWER TO THESE BEMBAS, WE’LL NEVER GET IT BACK?”
AND
“NA MUNTU WAFWA PAMUNSHI, WA MUKOWA WAFWA PAMUSHI, MWAMANA KULILA, MBUTWAKALILA KUNO KULI BA CHIKUSU, MULAKALA NOBAMUKOWA KUBANDIKA…SIMULYAZHINA SAA… MULABIKA MUTUBA NA MULABIKA WA MUKOWA?” IN TONGA.
Luapula Premier,
You now see that you are the one dividing Zambia tribally . You are so backward as you lack basic knowledge. Can you be an MP in Malawi? Can Sata be a president in Congo? The answer to this is what HH meant. You cant bring a kwelekwele to be an MP in area he was not born from. See how parliament is divided over Shakas’s comment because of your divisive useless divisive thinking. Stop IT. We want united Zambia. Abash dividing Zambia Tribally! …..Abash.
@Luapula. And so your tribal card still playing. So mr bemba know it all, tell me how many of your kind have ever voted for a southerner, westerner or north westerner.
The whole of Northern and Luapula gave HH less than 5thousand votes whilst the bantu-botatwe gave your sata more than 170thousand votes. YOU are the tribalists.
Like the Shona in Zimbabwe you will do anything to preserve your priviledge through your mugabe (Sata).
The die is cast and let the gloves be out. You Bembas w hate the bantu-botatwe for love of money. And we shall treat you likewise and ask other zambians who do not want to be rode upon by the bembas to join the freedom loving and free southerners.
bantu-botatwe stand as one as we defend our ethnicity.
@janza kumbele. Why plead with a person who hates your tri.be. These people will never like you. Tjey would rather their own destroys the nation than condemn him. Have you for instance heard anyone talk about Nevers Mumba. They wont he is bemba. I agree with simanego. Forget the bembas and make alliances with other tribes. bantubotatwe can not mix with thiefs (natolafye) as oil cannot mix with water.
@ Luapula Premier ……i pity you for you believe news from a discredited tabloid….and you shall remain impoverished (intellectually) as long as your thinking is determined by news from a discredited tabloid
Luapula ndakumfwa bwino , remind them boi.
What rights?
Oh come on man
Oh come on man.
The moment that this tribalistic under five understands that in a democracy its the mojority that wins the better. The % in parliament are an indication of what the majority Zambians want. The majority are saying let us not rush the issue. Whichever Zambians HH thinks he represents if he cannot control his own MPs.
@ kci
Where on earth you got that interpretation of democracy. Are you just absolute bonehead, or jack-ass? Democracy is the rule of majority where minority rights are safeguarded by law. But then, explaining that to you in detail, it is waste of time.
Those MPs in parley, who do they really represent? The party they belong to or the people who voted for them. In the whole of my life on earth I have never heard of or seen a single Zambian MP going back to the people in his constituency to ask their permission nor their opinion over any motion in parliament. Why should I trust them? They have ceased to represent me as soon as I voted them in to parley.
HH or Cowbell as others describe him will be doomed truly to know that he will never rule this nations. He thinks all tongas are tribalistic as him, no, Let those who are receiving coins from him continue to insult our president. Then he will turn his back to them. That evil guy is somewhat crooked…
These guyz who have never been to school will continue to be ignorant until it’s too late…
Am tonga from Chivuna, Bina Enelesi Kopa Konkola and Zambia.
We’re behind u Ba Sata and let Cowbell and fellow sponsored blogers go to hell
After you wanker.
Which Zambians does HH thinks he represents? If represented Zambians he would be in parliament or state house.
Cowbell represents his house…
Even some of us southerners have realised how bad he might be.
One Zambia One Nation
Here in Munyumbwe Viva Sata!
Us teachers Viva Sata!
Cowbell wants to be richer alone,
@off duty. We bantu botatwe will not accept trampling of chiefs and HH b y sata bemba. I declare that tooth for tooth, flesh for flesh. They hate us and we dont recognise them.
I URGE U ALL TO PUT HATRED ASIDE. AT MOMENT, THINGS HVE IMPROVED COS EVEN INTERMARRIAGES BTN THESE TWO, HAVE INCREASED. IT IS THIS WHICH HAS MADE THIS COUNTRY POOR. REMEMBER, MAZOKA WON IN 2001, BUT BCOS OF THIS HATRED, CHILUBA N HIS TEAM CHEATED ON US. MY PLEA IS THAT LET US ALL SWALLOW OUR PRIDE, AND PUT CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE LIKE HH, HE DESERVES IT. BA SATA, AND HIS “A” TEAM DON’T WANT ANY CRITICISM AND DON’T TAKE ANY ADVISE, HOW WILL THEY MANAGE OUR RESOURCES WELL? E.G CONSTITUTION, FUEL SUBSIDIES, WAGE FREEZE, NO EMPLOYMENT FOR 2 YRS ETC, ALL THIS IS FAILING SO IT NEEDS CONDEMNATION.
LASTLY, THE LATE PRESIDENT, MHSRP, LEVY & MAGANDE WERE ABLE TO KEEP DE ECONOMY FORWARD BCOS OF LISTENING TO CRIES OF THE NATION. KEEP ON HH, CHIPIMO, MUMBA C & CIVIL SOCIETIES. WE R BEHIND YOU.
Kcl,
HH refers to true Zambians, not Congolese. If you are a Zambian he refers to you, If u r Congolese ask which Zambian?
Uyu madala Sata swindled us. The FIRST Week whn he became a President he Named the Airports after our Heroes KK, Nkumbula and Kapwepwe. Today he wants to U-TURN.
Its SAD indeed.
Lets ve respect towards one another. We dont need Genocides, Zambia is A PEACEFUL NATION but dont take us for Granted by trying to disgruntle us.
Ba bemba bayanda kudyaminina swebo tobantu botatwe as we are the only ones who are vocal against their excesses and akubba. So bana bokwesu in Kasama, mansa and muchinga amujoke kuminshesu. Echi chisi tachili chabanyina oyo mushobo wababbi.
people listen and listen well. ka (HH) thinks the constitution is just about the 50% + 1 nonsense. He is so nonsensical this clown.
He thinks enaactment of the 50% + 1 guarantees him a pathway to state house. Why take shortcuts iwe (HH). Your friend HE MCS fought running battles and was rejected many times till he listend to the voice of the people and made promises which he will fulfill. He had no 50% + 1 on his side. he won fair and square. The majority voted him in and you lost by a distant 3rd.
You are just a sleeping cow Hingombe Hilede (HH).
You need to go to an Under 5 mental clinic and get your head examined its full of southern smoke made from brazier roasted cow dang. You think State House is a kraal where you can take your cattle droppings and shenanigans?
Good!
Cowbell thinks constution is a presidential motorcade to state house…
He thinks constution is 50+1…
infact it is a hearse to destruction…
@Kudos. It’s official, the nation is now split on tribal lines. As much as Bembas hate HH and Bantu-botatwe so do we pledge to never again be use by Bembas. We shall work with the west, north west, and east.
Kudos, I thought I warned you about that tribal sh!t.
Kudos,
The following is your description: Backward, divisive, kolwestan, illiterate, tribal, PF blind follower and retarted. Why I say so: Having 90 000 ++cows is sign of intelligence, wisdom and wealthy, ask world over. Having 0 cattle is sign of poverty, dullness and laziness. Your fathers and mothers gonged you over this. So, HH is the most intelligent and wise president Zambia will ever have, you cant compare him to having two guns. We waship HH, we adore HH, we admire HH. HH is a role model and bench mark. Who is your Bench mark?
My Luapula Premium.
Wkuta mabisi……..Confused Blogger….!!
You will NEVER CHANGE HISTORY. TONGAs ve always Run this country. For Your its Only Province to First ve a University-Rasangu after UNZA & CBU.
For your info the BEST TECHNICAL SCHOOL, Hilcrest is in Tongaland. Not only tht FIRST CAPITAL TOWN, Kalomo is in TongaLand. Not only tht even the Present Capital Lusaka is Tongaland, ask Nkomeshya.
SO STOP DIVIDING US. MY MOTHER is Tonga Dad Namwanga-Bemba.
So Stop the Idoicy.
G; it is this attitude of negotiating with die hard tribalists that have given these bembas the chutzpah to insult our chiefs, political leaders and all. It started with Harry ‘Old Lion’ Nkumbula, Mazoka and now HH
Enough is enough. We of the bantu-botatwe do not need these kasai. We are a hard working people and NO ONE can defeat us. Let us unite and if needs be even boycott parliament. We can work with the Lozis.
ZAMBANS HAVE BEEN DRIBBLED
The Mansa seat in Luapula Province fell vacant when the incumbent, Kennedy Sakeni, a N’gumbo passed on. But the seat was contested by different tribes, Aushis, N’gumbo etc.
95% of the by-election campaigns where conducted not in N’gumbo of Lake Bangweulu but in English. At no time was Kennedy Sakeni’s clan or clan name invoked. BUT our Bantustan leader went to Katuba to exhibit with expressions such as:
“Na muntu wafwa pamunshi, wa mukowa wafwa pamushi, mwamana kulila, mbutwakalila kuno kuli ba Chikusu, mulakala nobamukowa kubandika…simulyazhina saa… mulabika mutuba na mulabika wa mukowa?” in his Bantu bo tatwe language.
How many Tongas or Lozi have you voted for? You dont want us and we despise you.
You have never voted for bantu-botatwe. So take your relatives out of our line of rail where yu are daily stealing from us bakawalala. All you do is sell in markets and cant do meaningful work ba suntwe.
…….different tribes, Aushis, N’gumbo etc is equal to different tribes, Lenjes, Ila, Twa, Goba, Leya.
What nonsense!
Go and stand alone Mr. HH
This is a wake up call for all bantu botatwe in whatever place or station of life you are. The people we have suported frm KK, FTJ and even Sata now deride us as bantutan, cow dung and other unpalatables.
No more banaminshesu; let us break ranks with babbi aba. No diplomacy. tabatuyandi.
We are a sick nation. How can we start shooting ourselves in the foot. Surely, we have accepted that the current constitution is OK? Next party, please.
Bembas will accpt anyting as long as itis from a bemba. join the land of th e free – southern , central and north westn provinces.
@ Luapula Premier ……i pity you for you believe news from a discredited tabloid….and you shall remain impoverished (intellectually) as long as your thinking is determined by news from a discredited tabloid
Can some1 out there give a sincere projection of voting patterns come 2016 province by province so that I understand how UPND will win.
Yes, as has happened in the past northern, muchinga and luapula will vote 99.99999% someone of Bemba likenes.
HH will be lucky to get even 2thousand votes. The nation is split on firm and irreversible tribal lines.
HH sowed the seeds of tribalism in Zambia when he accepted to be President for UPND in which they declared that no other person from another tribe can be President. The rest we you all know …Sakwiba, Sichinga,Chisanga, Late Tentamashimba etc. So how does he want to be voted by other tribes.
Njalamimba Musonda, just like PF is dominated by who..? Check yourself before condemning others. Bantu botatwe must unite.
you hate hh cos he represents bantubotatwe. bembas you are bakawalala.
It’s most likely that were UPND comes 1st like Southern,PF will be 2nd.Let’s be sincere with our analyses.It’s clearly 2early 4UPND 2assume office come 2016.Unless 1wants 2keep burrying his/her head in sand!
HH and UPND will get zero votes from bembaland. dont waste tme campaignig there. talk of eastern and noth wst and westrn. Bembz wont vot for mutonga.
Shimbweno , Yes you are a fool, are you talking about Bembas or Bisas ? Ifwe fwebene baLubemba nabashilubemba Sata tatule mufwaya , Ichikwanka bechimona kumampalanya . Kamo tatwalele Kumbusa nayaya . GBM KANSEMBE Balibatmfwa why should Bembas go for PF when SATA has no Heart for Us . Only Foolish Bembas can Vote for him . You hate my P /chief Sosala I hate you for ever .
@Siamanengo
YOU NEED A BIT OF LESSONS IN ZAMBIA’S HISTORY. HH WILL MAKE YOU LOOK AWKWARD.
AT ONE TIME 98% OF MUFULIRA WAS LUNDA/BEMBA FROM LUAPULA. THAT WAS THE ONLY TOWN ON THE COPPERBELT WHICH FAIL TO MUDALA NKUMBULA’S ANC.
I WAS CHAIR IN ONE OF THE TOWNS ON THE COPPERBELT FOR UPND WHEN WE WON WITH ANDY AS PRESIDENT. THAT IS THE EXTENT OUR MINDS ARE LIBERATED!
PLEASE LIBERATE YOUR MINDS FROM YOUR TRIBAL LEADERS IN UPND (HH, SHAKAFUSWAS ETC) THEN WE SHALL BE IN BUSINESS AGAIN.
@Luapula. Never ever webo kabwalala will bantu botatwe be duped by you.
@SABINAH. CHIWENO. my dear we say, katanga lula kaluzya matanga nyina. 99% of bemba bloggers insult bantu botatwe as bantustan, cows etc. I remember in 1991 bembas refused baldwin nkumbula cos he was Ila (part of bantubotatwe). You rejectd his father in 1963 and rejected Kambela Mazoka in 2001.
You now want sympathy from bantu bottatwe cos of sata v sosala. But blood is thick than water. When crucial hour comes, you will reject hh/bantubotatwe as you have done since pre-independence.
Bantu botatwe unite with your cousins from Western and North Western.
You lie. Liar like your sata. same kabwalala buhata. you bembaz will never vote for bantubotatwe. We expect nothing from you. Being polygamists we shall continue impregnating your mothers and daughters. That is the only use we have of bembas and employing them as servants supervised by someone trusted from chipata.
2even assume that UPND will pick Lsk and Copperbelt is wishful thinking.PF is still strong in these provinces.Analyses done and posted on the net by biased elements won’t shift what’s prevailing on the ground.UPND has a long way 2assume a national character.In some places they even lack structures.Keep on dreaming!
Politicians and their attitude towards the people. You would think they are doing it for the people but alas. Who would have thought that the PF would drag their feet when it comes to the constitution making process after what they did to the MMD? So to all those of you who think that the UPND are any different, i say find something to do and never bank on a politician to change your life. President HH maybe a good man, rich and educated but he is in politics and therefore must be treated as one. I will end by saying GOOD LUCK to president HH and the UPND in general.
bembas will forever be superior over the unwanted minority badhearted small group calling themselves bantustans
And i thought smanego and simbwelo were being too ccritical. You confirm it that you hate tonga-lenje=soli=ila. so we too respond likewise. we no t suprised as bembas dont vote for mutonga.
Before we continue supporting you, where were the rest of your MPs when you voted on such a crucial matter? We are doing our best to support you guys but you don’t seem to be serious and united.
IF YOU THINK THAT CHIBWE, YOUR UPND SECRETARY GENERAL, AND MUTALE NALUMANGO ARE COMFORTABLE WITH TRIBAL INSINUATIONS COMING FROM PARLIAMENT BY YOUR SHAKAFUSWA, THEN YOU ARE HALLUCINATING.
HH OR SHAKAFUSWA HAVE NEVER REPUDIATED OR DISOWNED THESE COMMENTS AS HAVING FROM THEM. SO HOW CAN I ENTRUST THEM TO HANDLE MY NATIONAL POLITICS?
What did Shakas say in parliament? if i remember correctly, Shakas said, “this country does not belong a tribal clique”…..and i assume he had in mind the clique Kabimba already told us about….
CHIEFS HAVE ALREADY REJECTED IT
The Constitution is in DRAFT form – meaning that it has a long way before it could be adopted as FINAL document!
Mind you chiefs have already rejected some of its provisions on land.
So someone and somehow will have to find time to reconcile all the views.
So which constitution are we demanding release now?
BLOGS POSTED IN SMALL CAPS DO NOT BELONG…MY FAMILY EXTENDS ACROSS SEVERAL TRIBES OR SO CALLED MINORITIES.
I WISH YOU DO NOT DOUBT MY ABHORRENCE OF TRIBAL RESENTMENTS BY ANYONE, HH, SHAKAFUSWA OR EVEN THE PRESIDENT.
The constitution is indeed important. But what else, what other things must we do to improve the country APART FROM politics of/on the CONSTITUTION? The United Kingdom UK has no written constitution and the UK functions under other institutions in place. What else must we really do and move on apart from the constitution? Can we think outside the new constitution?
Do you know how old parliament in the UK you are mentioning is? Zambia is just teething into democracy and you want to compare us to the UK. Do you know what underpins the UK economy and how the country is run? Carefull with your comparisons!
debate on the constitution is shear waste of time.It hasn’t even been submitted 2the executive pipo are airing their views.The chiefs hv rejected it.What next?I gv kudos 2PF 4being patient over this constitution!
Zambians have waited for a new constitution for 50 yrs. Waiting for a few weeks, or months or indeed years cannot make any difference unless its being pushed for political expediency by a few selfish individuals. In the last 20 years Zambia had deteriorated progressively in terms of standard of living and infrastructure. I for one as a Zambian is looking to the reverse at a shortest possible time.
It is amazing and at the same distressing how some bloggers here and indeed a lot of other Zambians at large, do not understand the significance of having a Constitution that clearly delimits powers, calls people to account and guarantees real rights. It is better to ask, than to ‘fire’ from a premise of ignorance. The UK may not have a written Constitution but have a rich tradition of common laws, equity and institutionalized rules that make it impossible for a leader or a party to ‘ride roughshod’ over the nation. Why do you think countries that are authoritarian, dictatorial or have no mechanisms or regard for the rule of law, also tend to have serious economic disempowerment of the ordinary citizens? What does unfettered power do? You can’t discern the linkages?
Iwe Harold, you can have accountability even with the current constitution all you need is institutionalizing accountability framework derived from the current constitution. Where there re deficits, amend the necessary sections of the constitution. What the govt needs to concentrate on is reversing the current rooten state of being the nation is in. Fortunately on the road sector part, there is a large ray of hope.
@Luapula Premium…..
You make me Laugh “Always”. So you will even LINK Catholic Church to belonging to Bembas & SDA church to b belonging Tongas.
You REASON THUS BUT wake up and UNDERSTAND YOUR HISTORY. Catholic Started in Bembaland so is SDA.
God will save u there is till TIME EVEN IF you an ” ethist”.
I dont kno type of dobo u smoke but u r ” Not God to CHANGE ANYTHING.
Headless PF heading no where. This constitution issue is bringing about PF’s demise faster than expected.
Only if cows start voting which i do not see happening anytime soon
Bushe umunthu uusangwa ne ng’ombe mpaka kawa kuti abo muntulu?
I LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT HH, BUT HIS OBSESSION WITH THE BEMBA TRIBE. BECAUSE OF HIS CONTINUED HATE FOR MY TRIBE HE HAS EVEN MANAGED TO DRAG FELAS LIKE SHAKAFUSWA ONTO HIS SIDE.
Kabwalala Luapula Prem. tomuyandi hh cos mu tonga. ba bemba mulaliyanda. Aswebo tatumuyandi nwebo bakawalala.
No bemba province has ever voted for bantubotatwe…..and that will NOT change. So our differences with you bakawalala takamani.
@Luapula premier
At least when you discussed purported development by your Sata/PF it really appeared that you were taking light beer, but now your argument on tribe, tribe and tribe proves that now you are in full gear on spirits…why dont you take a rest on the powerful spirits so that you can start you development arguments soberly tomorrow? Surely, if you are not drunk, then, you are insane!!!
Ba more plans which measure re you using to know the 7 provinces besides luapula,muchinga and northern ve resolved to vote for heka heka.
Bembas can even be ruled by a frog as long as it speaks bemba.
Albert@ There has always been an issue with Presidential powers in the Zambian Constitution. There are also clauses that have needed strengthening so that independent professional institutions should be allowed to operate as such. I fail to understand why you cannot fathom the linkage between dictatorial regimes that account to no one and the sharp gap between the haves and the have nots ( who are also often rendered impotent in having a meaningful say or control over their socio-economic situation )
In fact I think the current draft Constitution has not gone far enough in proposing changes. I submitted that we needed to change from merely having a Constitution to actually practising Constitutionalism through clipping a lot of Presidential controls on institutions that are meant to be more independent and have more teeth (e.g. the electrol commission, judiciary, auditor generals office, investigator general, etc.)
The nature of our President ‘has it all’ situation does not allow for many people in the govt. system to being able to suggest informed solutions for the people. Everyone is simply busy saying ‘yes sir’ while drawing allowances and imprest for tours of so-called development projects.
There is no need for a new constitution, next election will be decided on the streets. The Bemba bantustan party PF will fight it out on the streets with the bantubotatwe. UPND
These bandits think zambia is their company.God is great and will intervene not again this country to be in the hands of bandits.fikalubemba u think money grows lyk grass,ll c wen hh assumes office how u,ll survive.we are hard workers
I wish he meant what he is saying, stories we have heard on his treatment towards his own workers on his farms is alraming….its strange to observe his championing human rights.
Well spoken. Good message to every well meaning Zambian, “Stand up for your rights”. The more the people with ill intent oppose such a simple and clear universal right of every human being, the more they de-campaign the PF Govt.
Well spoken HH. Good message to every well meaning Zambian, “Stand up for your rights”. The more the people with ill intent oppose such a simple and clear universal right of every human being, the more they de-campaign the PF Govt.