Patriotic Front (PF) leader, Michael Sata says there is nothing contemptous about the expulsion of five PF Members of Parliament from his party.
Mr. Sata said the PF Central Committee has fully respected the injuction filed by the 26 MPs attending the National Constitutional Conference (NCC).
He told ZNBC news, that the expulsions have nothing to do with their attenance in the NCC and reasons advanced in their High Court injunction.
Mr. Sata said the expelled MPs failed to abide by the rules of the party by withdrawing their membership subscription fees.
Five Members of Parliament were expelled from the PF (PF.
The PF Central Committee which met at Lusaka’s Blue Nile lodge expelled, Matero MP, Faustina Sinyangwe for gross misconduct while four others were expelled on account of their withdrawal of monthly subscription to the party.
They include Kasama Central MP, Saviour Chishimba, Marjorie Masiye for Mufulira, Wusakile MP, Barnabas Chellah and his Kankoyo counterpart, Percy Chanda.
But expelled Opposition Patriotic Front (PF) Kasama Central Member of Parliament (MP) Saviour Chishimba has described his expulsion from PF as a joke.
Dr. Chishimba has since instructed his lawyer Mwangala Zalomous of the DOVE Chambers together with Lisimba and Company to immediately commence contempt of court proceedings against the Party for allegedly going against a Lusaka High court order restraining the PF from punishing them from attending the National Constitutional Conference (NCC).
Speaking at a press briefing in Lusaka today, Dr. Chishimba said the party has not officially written to him over the move to expel him saying he just heard and read the news in the press.
And commenting on the alleged withdrawal of party contributions from the party, Dr. Chishimba challenged the PF leader Michael Sata to explain the term blood money.
The opposition PF’s full Central Committee members expelled Dr. Chishimba and four others from the opposition party last saturday.
Those expelled include: Matero MP Faustina Sinyangwe, Kankoyo MP Percy Chanda, Mufulira MP Majorie Masiye and Barnabas Chella of Wasakile and reprimanded Chawama MP Violet Samp-Bredt for refusal to obey official instructions from PF senior leaders.
PF leader Michala Sata said the discipline measures taken against the MPs had nothing to do with their participation in the NCC and urged the affected MPs not to hide in the NCC.
He charged that the court injunction did not give the MPs immunity from disciplinary measures set out by the party.
And Dr Chishimba who held a one-man press briefing stressed that he stands ready to fund the party convention should a date be announced.
And commenting on the invitation by MMD to adopt him and those expelled from the party, Dr. Chishimba could not comment but said he is ready to serve any political party.
Meanwhile, Chief Government Spokesperson, Mike Mulongoti says the expulsion of Five Patriot Front (PF) Members of Parliament is a sad development in Zambia’s democratic dispensation.
Mr. Mulongoti who is also Information Minister said PF’s Central Committe’s decision as an act of desprate political intolerance.
He told ZNBC news that Zambians need to be weary of intolerant political organisations ahead of the 2011 tripartite elections.
Mr. Mulongoti who is also the ruling Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD) Elections Chairperson said the expulsion of the Five is a sign of instability in Zambia’s main opposition party.
He said the PF needed to demonstrate maximum political tolerance typical of alternative governments in waiting.
The Expelled MPS thought that they were immune from discipline. This saves them right. Let the money they got from NCC pay their legal bills. Lawyers please milk these imbeciles. Soon you will see the same expelled gluttons singing a different tune in support of MMD which they disapproved less than two years ago
Legal expert (LLB, PHD), you are quite these days, what is your informed legal opinion of this
you do not cross paths with the King Cobra and expect things to be the same. In bemba they say “Bangoshe babili tabalala chulu chimo”.
Ati chalila..boom boom King Cobra strikes again. Anyway Big mouthed Mulongoti, shut up. Who are you to give advice to PF. Your own MMD party is the most Intolerant party in Zambia. What did you do to Prof Chirwa, Kavindele, Nevers Mumba. You even abolished the post of Vice president in MMD to just make sure no one with opposing views got into you NEC and only those who bootlick Chuchu. So Mulongoti just shut up and focus on your MMD’s eulology for 2011. Besides PF did not solicit for your opinion.
An indication of how many bye-elections Zambia would have to go through under this dictatorship. Please, call for a party convention to deal with imposed leadership.
president PF sata is not afraid to discipline party members..to bad zambia may have to lose more tax payers kwacha with five more elections…
The real question still remain UNANSWERED:
WHEN WILL PF HOLD A NATIONAL CONVENTION TO ELECT LEADERSHIP AND START DRUMMING UP SUPPORT FOR 2011 ESPECIALLY HOW TO COUNTER BALANCE AGAINST MMD FINANCIAL MACHINE ESTABLISHMENT WHICH CAN EASILY SWEEP PF…The sooner the better, Zambia can’t wait to get a PF presidential candidate..the next guy to state house.
PF should call for a convention. since they are going to participate in the democratic general elections, they must show democracy in their own party. i feel if this is not done, and if by accident they happen to win the 2011 elections, we will be under a seriously dectatorial government.
Those calling for PF convention are devil sent hypocrites. Where have you been all along to realize today that PF needs a convention? You are like the Astrologers that predicted that Mussolini would join word war II when all signs were that to show. I am sorry a convention will not solve problem of discipline
Should PF win in 2011, it will be the end of Democracy in Zambia. Unfortunately some people are not realising that Sata’s Dictatorial and vindictive tendancies will eventually affect them should he be put in power.
What kind of party continues to exist without ever holding an iternal eletion? Would you expect democracy to florish under its rule. I doubt if this freedom of expression we are enjoying now would continue under King Cobra’s rule.
These expelled members of parliamnet are stupid. Do they think on their own they could have won those elections? They were voted for because they were PF Members. They have become so pompous for nothing. Every organisation has got rules and members need to abide by them. Whoever disagrees is free to leave. Look at advanced parties in Europe e.g. UK, an MP who opposed the Iraq war resigned since they differed in Policy. Same to you PF Members if you disagree leave peacefully. Those prayers were fake. Do you have to pray when you are in problems only?. Abash truant PF MPs.
#8
Please we need displine. No displine no Development. Zambia today needs a displinarian type of leader. Look at the the Auditor General’s report about the misapropriation of public funds in Ministry and what is Mwanawasa doing about it? You a need a no nosense leader in zed today my friend.
evry country,organisation,instition,party are guided by two things:
a)a leader
b)a consitition
and a consititution makes laws and regulations.i think mr sata has made a right decision to expel the 5mps because there are not indispensable.they should be order in any party and not to allow any person to do anything anyhow.chishimba, sinyangwe and others must respect the party leadership (pf),and the rules set.why did they join pf if there think sata is bad?
Sata through the displinary committee is very right to have the five expelled. They think there are above the party rules. Remember people voted for you because of PF. Whos is this Dr Chishimba and Dr in what without brains. Ba-Percy chanda from a typical miner from smelter and former muf MUZ chairman wapwa iwe thus the end of your political carrer. Even on MMD who will vote for you in muf. Wabwelela mukwenda panshi from orchard to town kabili tauyumfwila uluse nangu panono. I really don’t sympathise with you. All the best
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Any relationship with Mike?
#13, it’s possible, we have Kasongo, Mwamba, Chiluba etc in DRC for anyone who understands our common history. Stick to the issues which is how the squabbles in PF reflect into the future of a possible PF govt.
# 11
Is it delibearte that you can not use the words ‘they’ and ‘there’ corectly?
1). You can’t file an injunction and win after a decision has already been made such as an expulsion.
2). In the event that the Court rules wrongly and finds Sata to been in contmpt of the courts earlier ruling, the court will put Sata on his defence but the expelled MP’s will never be re-instated to being PF members.
thus at this stage, their going to court will just make the learned councils richer as they also earn their living by being in court.
I do not support Sata because this is a serious violation of freedom of speech which our four fathers fought for. I think leaders should be free to choose weather they want to participate in the constitution change or not. If a leader thinks its in the best interest of the country i think they should take part instead of listening to an old lost politician who didn’t want to take part because he holds a grudge against the MMD. However, in Sata’s defense, i surely understand why he made that decision and had i been in the same position i probably would have done the same thing. Every organization has got rules and every organization has a leader to make and carry out those rules…
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and members of that organization are supposed to follow those rules and respect the decisions of the organizations leader. If people where allowed to do what they wanted without obeying the rules that give them the freedom to do so, this society would even be worst than it is today. Today crimes are only committed because people are hungry, but without rules crimes would be committed not only because of hunger, but also for the fun of it without thinking of the consequences because they would be no consequences.
The worrying thing is that with POLITICS OF POVERTY IN ZAMBIA, the only way to deal with dissenting views is to dismiss (thus threatening the livelihoods of dissenting MPs). Surely, that doesn’t encourage or nurture democracy. Good leadership carries with it the majority by persuasion, not coercion. In a true democracy, we should have room for dissenting views, radicals who don’t tow the party line and these should be in the minority. But when more than half of the MPs go against the party line, democracy demands that you listen, not expel!!!!
Now that the MMD is notwilling to adopt the ex- PF member we shall see what niose they will make , ifthe people that put you in office decide to choose a cause for their life , elected MP just have to agree , the five are gone and many more will follow them .#17/18 , as much as it is a violation of freedom of speech it is extremely wrong for the MPs to violate the people,s rights of chioce for a new zambia , the society is at a lose because of such selfish, money first attitude . i don,t support any party but rules of the game must be followed at all times not only when it suits you .
Yes discipline is important in any organisation. But for the MPs participating in the NCC, the only disciplinary action they will be sure to receive is expulsion which I believe is the strongest. You will never hear of suspensions.
Party cadres are even allowed to beat the MPs who are in the NCC. Does that sound like an orderly party? Where is discipline in such situations?
My fellow contributors, I told you long before that MPs like Dr chishimba are like political prostitutions and I’m very sure chishimbas’political career is over not even the pipo of ksm
central want him at all. recently he was on Radio Mano and pipo told him they dont want him at all.Mulongoti should stop getting involved in PF affairs. Good lucky PF and shame expelled MPs.MMD is full of crued and brain washed pipo like Mulongoti. Mupo needs Sondashi fomular to revamp his immune system
#20 (Analyst) An MP is a law maker. Therefore participating in the constitution making process is his/her responsibility. By being there, they are doing what they were elected for. That’s why they succeeded in filing the injuction. It is also the reason why Sata has to use different charges in order to expel them without being in contempt.
Why should an MP (a law maker) boycott the constitution making process then come and use the resultant constitution to make laws? At the same time, Sata thinks the new costitution will bar him from contesting in 2011. How does he expect to be defended if he excludes his MPs from the participating?
# 10 (Ndubulwa), if you read my post (#8), I was referring to the idea of a party that never holds elections. In KK’s time there was discipline but people got tired of having no alternative leader. A conventon (which I was basically talking about) is not a sign of indiscipline. When you have a president with too much power, you expect problems. It won’t be long before even the decisons of the Central Commitee are made by one man. Can you imagine members of the Central Commitee holding a view different from his?
COUNTRY MEN,there is no substitute for discipline,if you can`t follow the rules bwana you are out.2 There is no WAY NCC is supposed to deal with the constitution,only parliament can deal with such.Those MPs are greedy DOGS,THEY ARE THERE TO EAT(get the money).COUNTRY MEN DON`T LEAVE IN A SMALL BOX,A BIG ONE IS BETTER,
check what is happening here in the STATES,in when it comes to political issues.
Sata i want to thank you and your party. You are showing not only Zambians but also world at large, that following party rules is beneficial. As for today, Michigan and Florida dems delicates will never be allowed to attent convention cos they didn’t follow party rules.PF MPs please follow party rules and reguations if not you know what gonna happen to you next, Bayama Ba SATA Tabaseka.Advise to Mr. Sata please hold convention and be democratic this will help you and zambians. Good luck guys .
It really saddens me that people are expelled so easily. By elections are not cheap and money could be put to better use in other places like hospitals.
Who is Michala Sata?
Sata is a joke. Sata will never be a President of Zambia. He is a dictator and a tribelist. If you want Zambia to be another DRC then vote for Sata in 2011.
#25 (Twalibuka), The NCC is not just a mere conference, It is law passed by parliament. Sata should have made fought the hardest when it was still a bill. But the MPs voted for it. So the NCC is law passed by parliament itself. MPs whose duty it is to make laws should not exempt themselves in the constitution making process which includes the NCC. So an MP is there just for the money or not, he/she still has to be there. Can Imagine someone some his MPs to attend a parliament session? MPs are just as duty bound to attend the NCC.
Sata is pulling his people out. Well let him do as he wishes but he should not, later on, complain about certain clauses when the constitution is finally made.
Sata should have instead been holding meetings with the MPs attending the NCC to strategise so that he can get the best out of it.
On discipline, as #25 said, their is no substitute for dicipline, let Sata discipline his people. But he must ensure he does not do so selectively. He must also find a way of dealing with his cadres who beat his MPs when they appear to hold a different view from his. Unless he sends them himself. And if he does send them, then he is truely a thug. His cadres are breaking the law on his behalf and he seems pleased. If a party president is democratic, he should be concerned about such a trend in his party and must be seen to be doing something about it.
We all know that Michael Sata has thrived on hooligan, ‘lumpen’, vigilante, populist politics. It is therefore not surprising (at least to me) that more than half of his MPs acted like lumpens, hooligans, when he tried to deny them their cut from the NCC. True, you reap what you sow! To those fellow countrymen who are able to obeserve critically, give these hooligans and their party the power of State House and what is happening in PF will be on a grand (national) scale. The days of the vigilantes will be back. parliament will just be a rubber stamp of the ‘rules’ of the club (PF).
Y leave out MACHUNGWA? Sata z a huge joke 4 sure.Am sorry Sata’s followers that yo petty presido will NEVER inherit Nkwazi hse.
Just look @ the calibre of PF’s councillors let alone MP’s 4 yo on infor most of PF MP’s attending NCC r those that have tasted tertially education & the dunderheads r still stuck with thr god Sata.
the MPs were wrong, wy did they decide to go against the party’s decision of not participating in NCC.
#33, Wanzelu, Machungwa was left out because these hooligans are using scare tactics and at the same time testing the waters. The hope is that the meek ones may just go back with their tails between the legs; and if the courts rule favorably, then it is payback time. Truth is, once you join a hooligan party such as PF, expect to be treated with blows. If PF had a legitimate, accepted (voted in) leadership, the consensus of the MPs would have prevailed. Just how do a few individuals or an individual ride rough shod over the will of the majority of the MPs. Can only happen in a dictatorship.
#34, Mwinemushi:
An MP’s job is to pass laws. PF should have objected to the passing of the NCC Act. They didn’t. Thus the MPs are just doing what the law requires them to even though money was an inducement for most of them: that is, pass laws. PF should have objected to the passing of the NCC Act in the first place. The PF leaders (read Sata) only opposed the NCC when they saw that they (PF leaders) would not not the preferential prominent roles they hoped for.
MP’s go stand us independents to prove yo popularity. use 3billion frm nangonde for bye elections namipela. go go sata…we are behind yo. Batafye bonse ba Mumbweeee….
Just tells u what a mickey mouse party PF is.You talk hard to Sata, you’re expelled.Keep that mickey mouse out of state house.Those MPs are just doing thier duty on the NCC.The problem is, sata does not support any GRZ initiative.You guys continue talking about “discipline” what have these Mps wronged the pipo who voted them? They representing their pipo in parliamnent, and NOT PF.They are there coz of the pipo who voted them, so if the pipo say they want a constituition, let them sit on the NCC.
In this age, we do not need potty dictators like sata and I wish those MPs stand for their rights.
You Know,these *****s thought they were clever when they filed and injuction against their expulsion from PF,but to the contrary they have been expelled on the basis of indiscipliness and not participation of the NCC,King Cobra balange,but machungwa nayena achilafyaikwa uku tamfya…
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please, see for yourselves
sata is using his experience of expelling his MPs from MMD when he was its secretary general. Chiluba used him to expel half of the MMD executive them, thinking that he might be favoured to take over the MMD leadership, but nay Chiluba dribbled him. Its no surprise.
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This is a white south african criticizing a black run govt. I hate to say it but some of the things he says are true. I feel sad when i see white people happy and talk with pride about how Africans cant rule. They even go to the extreme of saying Africa is a hopeless continent. It hurts me because i am actually starting to believe these guys. I think its time we proved these guys wrong. I think its time we make the proper business plans and go back home to build our nation so we can say to them, “how about Zambia???”. I feel really hurt. See for yourselves.
Every organisation has its set of rules and so if Those MPs were not toeing the line the deserve to be fired. when Sata comes to power , those that are lazy and eager for a quidk buck watch out. It is time we instilled discipline in our country. Sata , state house awaits you,
By all arguments Sata is an illegal PF leader, until he holds a convention.
The_Nazis, Mulongoti is from DRC. Is our Mike also from DRC? I know his father was in broadcasting long time ago.
I believe there are more than 5 PF Members of Parliament who are participating in the NCC. The fact that only 5 have been expelled means there is something they did wrong. PF you did well to chuck the 5. They think we voted for them because they were popular ! let them wait and see if they will be re elected ! Viva PF ! Viva discipline !
Sata is doing things right,zambia needs a leader like him.We do not want people who wants money.PF is organised, Sinyagwe she is very useless bamusala ayamba ukupenapena why this leaders we have in this country.I feel very bad to see most of the leaders forgeting there jobs after elected. This *****s are evil. Mr president ba sata please you discipline every one sir.I totally agree with Mr Mashobe that every organisation has its own set up or rules, why this the mulongotis start talking about some one s house why?I think Sinyagwe and the friends are lazy.if some one told them that they give money to bring the PF down no ways you are wrong guys.Yes sata its time to be in state house .All the
indiscipline shuold go and more are going.
Which mandate does SATA hold? You PF pipo please tell me, the guy put himself there despite losing twice hes still leader, expelling others, who by the way, have the mandate of the pipo. He has never tested his popularity within PF, so dream on … never will the lumpin go to state house.We have enough of mad leaders Mugabe, Gadaffi, etc thats enough and Zed of all places to perpetuate the rot.Shame.
Mulongot and Teta this guys are fake and they are just making noise.no one can vote this guys. Same people bloked pro chirwe why ababangwele ifintu filachinya ka? wait 2011.Talking without thinkig spoksman zoona ba MMD why ukusala umuntu uwaso yaba elyo zambia yapwa zoona.
Mr Miyoba you know nothing sir despite talking too much.You see you are even asking about the mandate.You are the same lazy guys we dont want in FP.Its only you who dose not like Mr Sata s doings, be a man dont be lazy .We are coming to sweep you in 2011 watch out.You cant even feel shame atase mudala iwe.
# 51 dont attack personalities but counter his arguement.Its called democracy to hold elections & u better get used to it boyi.
If anything i feel its Sata who z supzd 2 b disciplined for causing the party embarassment with the passport issue,the Late Mtonga funds,the Taiwan bribe,the $ seized in SA,the lies,the tantrums he threw @ women the list z endless
Prof of Law, LLB (Oxford), pHd (Havard) says
I think you’re a quack lawyer from Kalingalinga. Look at this stupid point you pasted on this noble site
“You can’t file an injunction and win after a decision has already been made such as an expulsion”
My man, you’re a stinker in the head, go back to school and read about “ESTOPPEL BY INJUNCTION “.
U did not answer me #51? Which mandate does Sata hold on to? The MPs he expelled were not lazy, but know what their mandate was … from the pipo who vote.Anyway, what do I expect from a PF?
Come comvince me maybe I can understand ur party … if at all its has a manifesto.
I saw the writing on the wall. Iam happy that after a few months from now, they will be dead, buried and forgotten from Zambian politics.
SAta is a serpent, please.
Chuchu is a CHIONGOLI impost on us by BAKAMUSHI baku CHIPATA!!!
#52and #54 iam not attacking anyone but trying to put Mr miyoba in aright track.This are just contributions in a democracy country like zambia.First of all, Mr sata is the best so far in this country my brother.Not what you are thinking that he is embarasing the party man.Dont talk about the passport issue, we are talking about the expelled guys not passport man.Asking about the mandate.PF party has a manifesto and mandate all these i have to sit down with you i drop you one or you pass at cental park man you will ge one.
#55 you have to be frank man who are those?
Kaunda boycotted 1996 elections and killed UNIP, PF’s boycot of NCC may render the party irrelevant as the new constitution will definately be passed. If the economy continues to improve, which I think it will, and a very good constitution is passed, the people of Zambia will start to think less of PF. That is a sound advice Chaps! We need strong opposition for democracy to work, and PF has done a good job so far. Furhter reduction in numbers way decrease PF’s influence if they loose the By-elections. The constitution review process has faced a lot of boycots, but the fact is that we r all looking towards a brand new constitution that offers hope to the country! Wake up PF!
what is SATA policy on Agriculture?, Mining? Tourism? Education? etc please advise
The man Mr SATA used late Mutongas money what a President! he never even respects the dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pipo the 5 MPs have been expelled for other reasons and not NCC. I think that its correct to discipline a member for wrong doing. MMD does it routinely. Recently what happened Findley for saying MMD is not for LPM’s relatives? Of course he got a ‘sack’ out of his membership. So whats so special abt these 5. Calling your president a ‘thug’ is not part of the injuction. Discipline must be upheld. There are others who are in the NCC but have not been expelled as they have behaved themselves in addition to their injuction. Sorry for the 5!
Henry (NO. 59). I referred to those political demagogues, sycophants and imbeciles who have been expelled from PF. They are dead, buried and forgotten from the political scene just like Chamumbwa. In any case, even someone with half a brain can read between the lines since the issue here is about Chishimba and co who have ended up a bum in the gutter drinking methylated spirit.
#63, Hammered:
Calling a party president a thug, is not a reason to dismiss an MP, especially for a president who surrounds himself with thugs, hooligans. Sata knows that if he was sincere, he could have sued for defamation of character in the case of Sinyangwe. What he did was just be vindictive towards his niece. Anyway, good riddance/lesson for some of these opportunist MPs who ignored Sata’s dictatorial tendencies when it suited them. The chickens have come home to roost.
Ladies and gentlemen, rules are rules and thereforte, should be respected. Zambia is no-longer a country for politics of poverty.
the expulsions are justified
We have to ensure that MPs are law makers and the reason why people voted for them was becoz Zambians have lost faith in the Chuchu administration. We need people who can act as the voice of the masses and not to champion Chuchu`s cause.
PF is a sorry site. If so many people in the party are indisciplined, what does it say about the leader. Is that the kind of party you would want in power? A party who’s cadres can beat its MPs and all the President is worried about is what the beaten MP says about him? One can therefore conclude that those cadres who beat Mrs. Sinyangwe were sent by Sata. That party is full of disorderliness. what we are seeing now is plan B for expeling MPs participating in the NCC. He sends his cadres to Beat Mrs. Sinyangwe, waits for her response then catches her in her words and expels her. He has never had kind words for her from the time she became chairperson. She was targeted.
Thanks #64 for answering me.Its true that the 5 MP expelled that will be dead and buried man.68# Mr Abantu Baya,i think you dont know discipne and indiscipline this two my brother.The only problem of you people you want leaders who are weak and chap for money.You will never develop in this country. What Sata has done this right. He is not a thug and there no thugs in PF bit only in MMD.Kanyama by elections the MMD cadres used to beat people, UPND president Mr Hichilema was nearly beaten by MMD caders but why saying that PF are thugs man.In this country we have only one thug party and which is MMD.Mr sata did not send any PF cader to beat sinyangwe who is she?targeted by who atase. when l
someone likes money this is what happens man.This is the end of all the 5 MPs.People have come to know who is who now.Its not like those days were people used live in dak no no my brother. Belive me 2011 you will see PF in power and sata the president.
#65 what is your problemyou?.Who told you that sinyanwe the reason she was expelled was about calling the president a thug?You dont follow things man, you better kelp away from this issue.Sinyangwe and the 4 others were not following the party set ups.Not for calling the president Mr Sata thug or NCC issue.They were not following what its lined up for the party.What do tou expect?,dismissal man.
just sueless politicking boonse…PF is sinking now!
These MPs should not cling to PF coz they made there own decision not to move alongside PF’s collective decision and its right that they’ve been expelled. They should concentrate on how they will win the by elections and mind you its everyone for him or herself. They thought MMD will adopt them but Mwanawasa has seen nothing in them apart from being vultures thats why he’s abandoned them. He learnt something from Chimumbwa remember once beaten twice shy. Too bad for the expelled MPs INDALAMA SHAYA
Sata can do what ever he wants to his troops (MP’s). The truth of the matter is that, i can neva vote for him. He is running his party like a pig Farm (no order whats so ever). I cant wait to see President Sata’s face in 2011 after his second and last lose bcause Southern, Western and Eastern e.t.c wont let it happen again.
VIVA PF VIVA SATA!!!!!!!
I think Sata is more of a democrat than than Chuchu. What wrong did Findlay do, just saying MMD is not for LPM and his family doesnt warranty suspension or any displinary action.
chimumbwa did the same. he is now living in his own world with no confort. the same will happen to same of these disqualified mps. Dr chishimba are you telling me that where you work there are no rules to follow. people can report work at any time? If you fire them can they take you to labour officer for wrong dismisal.
The Sata-nic movement is in trouble. Only a danderhead can fail to see this. Like UNIP, PF has already pushed the self-destruct button. Let me give credit to the Sata-nic inner circle for their clever punch at the 5 MPs. The idea is certainly to intimidate the remaining MPs, and also to see how the PF performs in the bye-elections in the 5 constituencies. The expulsions were were selected – the constituencies involved are the types PF would win back; therefore, they will survive this period, but for the 5 it is all over, whichever way you look at it. They have just drunk from the poisoned chalice filled with the Cobra’s venom, and they are dead and buried. But the Sata-nic days are numbered.
If McCain and Clinton lose to Obama, there will be some lessons for Zambian politics. Sata, like the two, always prides himself in ‘experience’. But it seems the American people might not buy that kind of argument. So why should Zambians? The only real experience Sata has is that of exhibiting his cobra self – spitting out verbal venom at his opponents, with no regard for ettiquette (he probably doesn’t even know this word exists), and hammering his Sata-nic followers with a heavy hand, as we have seen with the 5 MPs. The man is unfit to be president. He is a thug, a dictator.Our own wisdom says, ‘If you look after a cobra, do not be surprised if it bites you when it grows up.’
Ladies and Gents,cast your nets abit deeper and understand that PF is built around SATA’s popularlity and its the fact you can not runaway from.Whether you like it or not PF cannot stand without SATA.If people want to experiment,let them hold a convention and usher in MACHUNGWA,SINYANGWE or CHISHIMBA as party president.I tell you that will be the END of PF.The man(SATA)is simply the centre pivot and terminal of PF.Wait and see if you’ll hear again names like sinyangwe,chishimba in the political arena after this episode.I tell you they are dead and buried.DONT BITE THE FINGER WHICH FEEDS YOU.BA SINYANGWE,BACHISHIMBA we didnt know you niba SATA Ebalengele ati tumishibe,Muletasha.I mean without
King cobra you nothing.I challenge you to form your own party and prove your popularity,mukasebana ukucila KEN NGONDO.I think that the reason why you dont want to accept that you are exepelled.PF was initiated by SATA as such he deserves respect,its not easy ask CHRISTON TEMBO,NEVERS MUMBA,AKASHAMBATWA,TILYENJI,HAKAINDE,MIYANDA,NAWAKWI.They have all failed and even PRESIDENT MWANAWASA is never disturbed by their tiny parties existance,but he knows that there is SATA and he always works to counter his tactics at very high level.Ba CHISHIMBA ikaleni fye,you can’t contend with COBRA you are too small.YOU ARE JUST A DISLOYAL CHAP.
BA SATA WE ARE WITH YOU COME RAIN,COME SUNSHINE.We have to continue providing checks and balances to CHUCHU and his team of vocal bootlickers.Come 2011 MULETEKA.I WISH YOU WELL SIR.
Glad Mwila points out PF depends on Sata and his ‘Sata-nic Verses’. But man, that dependency is a double-edged sword: it might be the party’s strength but it is also its biggest weakness. Sata is PF’s Achille’s heel. The whole party is polarised on a Sata-and-Others basis. Either Sata or no Sata. And the man is arrogance itself on two legs. PF IS TOO SATA-CENTRIC, AND IT IS THIS SATA-CENTRICISM THAT WILL BRING IT DOWN. IT IS LIKE A BRIDGE STANDING ON ONE PILLAR. Bring down the pillar and you bring down the bridge. While PF is Sata-centric, Sata himself is EGO-CENTRIC. Listen to him talk, and you are likely to hear him say ‘I’ much more than ‘we’, ‘me’ much more than ‘us’. (continued)
How many times have we heard Sata say, ‘When I come to power’ rather than ‘When PF comes to power’? Just a reminder: ‘These defiant MPs are taking on an experienced general. I will defeat them.’ And of course that self-prophecy has happened: the ‘experienced general’ has struck, and with a venom too (of course, using PF structures). The point is the MPs are REALLY fighting Sata-nic anger and vindictiveness; not the PF. Sata simply steamrollers over the Scotts and Mumbis of this world. Hey, did you know that when you do a spellcheck on the computer for the name Sata, one of the options the computer gives you is ‘Satan’? We are yet to read the last chapter of the ‘Sata-nic Verses’…
Politics 101. The MPs were stupid not to have seen the writing on the wall. Sata warned them but they’re testing him. Even were freedom of speech is paramount, there are limitations. You cannot shout fire in a movie theater when there’s no fire, you go to jail. The political indiscipline that is perpetuated by these novice MPs will cost them their bread and butter. Ask Joe Lieberman in the US, what happened to him? Today he sits as an independent. Same with these guys, if they feel they are wanted by people, let them recontest. Indisciline breeds Anarchy. Period.
What Mr sata doing is a right thing.