The MMD National Executive Committee has expelled its trustee Christine Moonga from the ruling party and advised the disciplinary committee led by Mulobezi Member of Parliament Michael Mabenga to conclude the cases of suspended MMD Copperbelt Chairman, Terence Findlay and that of Finance Deputy Minister Jonas Shakafuswa.
MMD Information and Publicity Chairman, Ben Tetamashimba says Mrs. Moonga has been expelled for breaching the MMD constitution.
Mr. Tetamashimba also says the NEC has dissolved the Copperbelt Provincial Committee with immediate effect.
He told ZNBC news in Lusaka that the decisions were reached at an NEC meeting at State House, Tuesday.
Mr. Tetamashimba said an interim Copperbelt Provincial committee will be announced by 9th May.
And, Mr. TetamashimbaA said the Milanzi MMD parliamentary candidate will be announced in the next two weeks.
The seat fell vacant after the death of area UNIP Member of Parliament, Chosani Njovu.
Meanwhile, The Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD) Solwezi central constituency executive committee has recommended for the suspension of Solwezi Mayor Emmanuel Chihili with immediate effect for alleged gross misconduct.
This is contained in a jointly signed letter by vice constituency chairman Jones Mulusa and vice constituency secretary Tapson Kasono to Emmanuel Chihili and made available to ZANS in Solwezi today.
The party committee which meet early this month , unanimously resolved to recommend for the suspension of the mayor pending expulsion for having failed to perform in his ward .
The party further stated that the mayor on several occasions differed with higher party organs and officials contrary to party regulations.
The party added the mayor had differed with deputy Minister for local government and and housing Benny Tetamashimba who is also Solwezi Central Member of Parliament, Northwestern Provincial Minister Kenneth Chipungu and Solwezi District Commissioner Albert Chifita, accusing them of being tribalists .
The party said Mr. Chihili’s behavior had been left it with no other choice but to recommend for his suspension pending expulsion so as save the image of the party and the President.
In accordance with the party disciplinary regulation of 1993, 7 (b), a party member can be disciplined for conduct likely to bring the name of the party into contempt, ridicule or disrepute.
The party has since given Mr. chihili ten in which to exculpate himself.
But when contacted for a comment, Mr. chihili accused party officials of being on a plan to marginalize him.
The drama continues…or is it a circus?
What about the right to free espression??? A free mind has nothing to fear. It is not criminal to disassociate one’s thoughts from group think.
What justice is in the MMD?
Michael Mabenga should not even be MP because he has been convicted of corruption. MMD is controlled by a bunch of thugs like Michael Mabenga no wonder nothing good can be expected from this good for nothing political party.
Why waste time with meetings, we know the results already. Findlay will be expelled and Shakafuswa will NOT.
Zambian politics are indeed very funny just like a circus.Imagine,Michael Mabenga who himself needs to be suspended on moral grounds is leading the suspension of his fellow wrong dowers.Moonga has guts & she’s shown how politics in Zed ought to be like.When someone is wrong whether they are of the family tree they ought to be dealt with accordingly & not shelded.But poverty,Job seekiing makes even respectable pipo in society/families do things which are silly.Becoz of being a true democrat Moonga has been expelled but i’m sure this is the beginning a a great political career 4 her coz MMD has just made her a champion of democracy.Viva Moonga!!!
Im adopting her for 2011
Mabenga the so called Disciplinary chairman is a pot calling a kettle black. How does he instil discipline to party members when his hands are filthy after misusing CDF? It is these chaps that should have records of indisciplinary and not the innocent woman.
Anyway, madam Moonga, leave the *****s alone. At least you blew the truth that every sensible citizen appreciates. Good luck.
These new Dealers are indeed some serious dealers;they are getting rid of anyone who refuses to boot lick or has a mind of his/her own.Do they even watch or listen to world news & follow the US primaries?May be they could learn & pick up something from Obama! In Democracy,politicians even political parties are accountable for their actions.Sadly here in Zambia like animal farm,its not the oblivious that happens but the abnormal,Moonga has been expelled & nothing will be done to Shakafuswa.May God help us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dont protect me!!!
Dont protect me, I am the same old chuchu the fatso with the same old habits!
These thugs in MMD cannot recognise a good thing when it staring them in the face. I am sure shakafuswa wont be touched even if he has brought his party more disrepute. His family too. I wonder when this thing about worshiping leaders in Zambia will come to an end. Mrs Moonga please be strong and know that a group of men with small brains and huge egos have made this decision.
#12,these kind of worshiping politics can end if you have a president who is popularly elected & the person is sure of him/herself.With these the person wont need a Tetamashimba/Mulongoti to worship him coz he already knows who he is.
Politics of poverty,people use their stomach to think
When chiluba took over power in 2001, he said something like “dictators do not make themselves, dictators are made by people” look at these fools, no morals, no principles, so maybe Mwanawasa was trying to test the waters and see what these fools would say regarding his nephew and indeed they showed that they do not have the guts. So what can stop Mwanawasa from pushing an agenda such as third term with cowards surrounding him like these!!! Anyway this is politics of the stomach in africa.
Please don’t forget to comment on the case of the poor Mayor of Solwezi who is being harassed by the MMD Kaonde tribalists. Problem with Solwezi is that the Kaondes believe that only Kaondes should hold positions of responsibility in Solwezi. But no one denies them these opportunities when they are in other parts of Zambia. Surprising that that mentality is still rife even today.
pamenso kwati pama tako
No, i feel the decision taken by NEC is justified and i can conclude that by dissolving the entire Copperbelt Provincial Committee no further expulsions will follow. U see fellow citizens auntie christine was blatantly acting in her capacity as a member of NEC whereby Shakafuswa and Findlay committed acts outside their job description, but within their personal remits, by expelling them it will set a bad precedent whereby nobody holding public office is entitled to a private life which is inhumane and contrary to Art.8 of the Human Rights Act. However lets note that It would have been difficult and nepotic of levy if he expelled Findlay and left shakafuswa, because that would have been it!
That mayor doesnt mean anything after all he is just a civil servant with a big chain around the neck so please leave the Kaondes alone. The developments in MMD are interesting this expulsion could pave the way for a female candidate on the MMD preso Ticket I feel the machine has started grinding this is propaganda being used to play with ppls minds and emotions…..abena levy tabomfwa wina azalila its like entertainment football not iyaba PF nabena Hakayivotela Hichilema (HH) umbi nakabwato elyo umbi naka convoy…… fighting these lawyers, u’ll become broke.
I wish I had a comment. Sad day for MMD, the party I worked hard for on the CB. Will I be wrong to support Sata? Will I be wrong to trash Mwanawasa and his cronies in the likes of Teta and Mabenga and other fools in this party? Ulufyengo mu MMD. God, who will stop this nonsense in African countries? Scientists please, do other researches. Are you sure we have five senses like other races? If so, why do we have to go thru all this stupidity on our continent? Are guys sure Levy is an attorney? What type? Injustice type? Wow, an attorney who bases judgment on expedience.
All Animals are Equal But, Some Are More Equal Than Others!
# 21, did you mean Muwelewele? By the way which case came first? The nice lady’s or the evil doer, women slaughterer Shakafuswa’s? How come the evil doer’s case still pends and the truth teller is out. Kicked out.
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Ha ha haaaa! Forget it forlks, me being fired from MMD…never because my company Auto World funds MMD!!!
Like uncle like nephew. Uncles at national level, nephews at constituent level. That ie get by. Family trees seem to be everywhere. Ben Tetamashimba is very much an uncle of Jones Mulusa.
#20, legal system is about common sense. Even if that common sense is nonsense. Why do you think there are thousand and thousands prisoners. It is because of this common sense. At one time I had an opportunity to visit my uncle’s palace (he is a chief). I was perplexed to learn on-site how he diligently (and seemingly professionally)he dealt with very serious cases in his chieftainship-and I mean serious cases being disposed off in a day or within a week depending on available evidence. I couldn’t believe that chiefs actually work harder than MPs, Ministers and Presidents themselves.
Well, it is not surprising maybe…
…coz if we may remember in our History subject at school, at least all tribes faced calamities of some sort. But the way the chiefs dealt with such problems makes you wonder whether their education ya pansaka was better than a modern formal education setup. So, #20 don’t be shocked at Levy’s justice. After all he was in chikwakwa at UNZA and not school of natural science, where you really have to use your head to solve a given physics, maths, etc problem.
What amazes me is where are all the intelligent people in the MMD when all this fuc*!#&%@ bullsh@* is happening? The so-called “university graduates” with their degrees in the MMD, where are they? How have they allowed their individual and collective intelligence to be insulted this way by the likes of Tetamashimba, Mulongoti, Mabenga and Mpombo? I feel for my country. As # 20 Kalos2020 says, I also feel so sad that party I worked so hard for in Lusaka has come to this!
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No leadership. No direction, no morals, no conscience – nothing, just an empty shell! But wait; 2011 is just around the corner. It is darkest just before the dawn, Zedians, don’t despair. Let us send them into exile like Chungu and Shansongo come 2011. The family tree will be accordingly pruned.
word on the street is that auntie. christine’s husband is a mole for Hakayivotela heka Hichilema (HH) hence the resounding decision to get rid of her we have no place for snitches in MMD. kalos2020 said he worked hard for MMD on the CB and now he left either 2 be a conductor on HH’s convoy or personal kabalwe to the captain of some sinking ship, well good riddance to u we dont need quitters, because if u really worked hard for MMD then u would not be crying about being treated unfairly. Ndemona kwati nabakutuma, how can it be a sad day 2 u when u are no longer in our party? Here are the order of the cases: a)Findlay, b) shakafuswa c) christine. efyo wachilafwaya nakwasuka, sosa…….
#31 seems 2 b a player hater of HH heh?Is it bcoz he is Tonga?Anyway,watch the space bcoz HH drives a harder bargain.His Party UPND seems 2 b a beta option 4 most pipo than the cracking dictatorship MMD and the sinking,comic & dictatorship PF.Its only a fact, tefyo?
#31 u’ve hit the nail on the head.MMD is cracking,worse when MMD’7 Convention comes.For SATA,who says politics is 4 old tired dogs and smoking chimneys?
PF is SATA and SATA is PF.Presuming Sata dies 2day (info reaching me is tht he is on a dying bed),what wil remain of PF?
Who do we think will take zambia forward in 2011 brothers and sister? By now we should have known the person! we hope the woking up of someone during his or sleep won’t happen! this time we shouldn’t be cought an aware!
Pa S.A J.Zuma,Zim- Swangirai,U.S.A Obama/Hillary?,Kenya-Odinga and Zambia…..*HakaSata*!!! I don’t know Tandizo pliz!
Musani tukane!
This is a lesson to all of us Zambians who sit back without defending our own sisters and brothers. A lot has happened similar to the above case and us Zambians do nothing to defend our own freedom and democracy. The question is what are we going to do to stop this crazy actions from those in power? Tomorrow it will be you.
#15, Chiluba took over the Presidential Throne in 1991 and handed over in 2001. Do you mean Mwanawasa or Chiluba in your contribution????
#31 Moderate. Thank u for yo insults. But believe me, I am not as many in politics are. When everyone was hanging out at the gates of plot 1 for jobs, I chose scholarship in the US. Well, I settled here and probably permanently. So, my concern is not for myself, but national. You care about yourself more, but I care about my country and my people back home. Who wants to go back and work with such *****s like Teta, Mulongoti, Shakafuswa, Mpombo, Shikapwasha and the like? Believe me MMD had god leaders like Chipimo, Shimaponda, Mungomba, Baldwin, Mokola, and the likes. Not these fools whose many goal is to warship Levy. Are you one of them masquerading just as blogger?
KAYA
Levy Mwanawasa has zero credibility. When former Vice President Nevers Mumba made a statement on Zambia’s relations with DRC, he was unceremoniously fired. Ambassador Chitala was similarly gotten rid of. When Shakafuswa says its OK to ‘slaughter’ women he only gets a mild slap on the wrist and Levy says he cant fire him because Parliament is ‘investigating him’. Mrs Moonga gets the sack for bluntly telling him that he practices nepotism, while Terrence Findley will be gotten rid of by the new Provincial MMD Committee. Levy’s departure from State House will be so shambolic that Chiluba will look like a Statesman.
There will be a terrible backlash against Levy and his ‘family tree’.
Guys you are funny ati Hakaivotela Heka (HH). I think the guy is not that bad, what he needs to do is turn his regional party into a national party and may be he could be serious competition for PF the party most likely to form the next gov’t.
MMD like any other party makes mistakes and I suppose LPM doen’s have to be blamed for the disciplinary measures taken up against any member of the party!these were strictly brought up by the Satas,Machungwas and the rest…he found the rules and your chaps have to feel the heat.leave LPM out of this,Shaka’s time will come .
Thats CHUCHU for you
this disease is everywhere. its like we’v got freedom of expression but not freedom after expression regardless of what comes out of our mouths. its power.how sad.
GOD help us!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hullo………… can someone wake up Chuchu since he is used to being waken up, I am sure he is still sleeping. Hullo….Chuchu pls wake up shaka is causing havoc in the nation while you sleepy!!!!!
#41,How long does it take 4 a democracy to mature?Other younger democracies like Tanzania,Bostwana & Namibia are doing beter.Our democracy is almost 20 years but still very petty & childish to say the least.Excuses 4 the wrongs in MMD can’t be heaped on former members!I can only imagine have terrible life will be 4 MMD after 2011.As a party it will be worse than UNIP.And i hope that no party will take their members in,the likes of Tetamashimba/Mulongoti.Let 2011 be the beginning of a new dawn in Zambian politics,with new faces & a new way of politics,coz currently its shameful,i stopped watching ZBS news a year ago in in disgust at their one sided coverage of news.
So who is the right presdo candidate for 2011?; bcoz according to the pipo on this blog:
LPM – no third term & still sleepy
Sata – old & sinking,
HH – tribal & regional,
MMD – not yet known;
Chirwa – not acquainted with local politics;
Ngondo – failed to win parliementary elections;
Others parties – non starter
Am I confused, can someone pls help!!!
tonga haters are back blogging again. do you want me to activate my insults. the correct name is hakainde hichilema and he is not leading a regional party. am giving this ***** (31) a chance to change the way you discuss serious issues but if you dont comply, then insults will start floating and do not be shocked when i mention your close family members. dont dare me
Whether you like it or not, PF is will never form government. It is infact worse off than MMD. Sata expelled Nakazwe for performing her civic duties and you call it democracy? Come guys get to be serious. It is only those that call UPND a regional party and calls PF a national party who are completely lost. If PF was national party it would have formed government in the last elections. Zambia is not the Copperbelt and Lusaka towns alone, please take note of this fact seriously.
Zambia needs seriuos leadership that can foster development from LPM will leave it at and not people who can’t even get a simple advice from their own wives about the dangers of smoking.
#31 thinks that copperbelt and lusaka provinces are the only provinces that form Zambia. My friend you are very wrong. It is actually common sense to evry reasonable Zambia that Sata is a dictator and an old fashioned politician who is better off in the archive and not in modern politics. You can’t have a chain smoker who is about to die of heart attack due to his poor health habits in State house at this hour and age.
#47, you are right, there are some fools here who think that being tribal is the way to go about it. Tell him. He is foolish. What does it profit him to support a dictor who has fired his close friends (Nakazwe and many more)?
The whole world would be supprised and astonished to say the least if Zambia at any point elected the likes of Sata into state house. Sata is simply not presidential material. It is actually embarassing discussing Sata as one of the possible presidents of the country.
#46, You will remember that it was Sata who once said that if a bemba is not in power, then the country is as good as being the hands of dogs. It is Sata who has been campaigning on tribal lines, his inability to appeal in Northwestern, Eastern, Southern, Central and Western Provinces shows how regional his party is. You say HH and UPND are tribal and regional but you forget that HH performed better than Sata in all those places mentioned. HH or indeed Chirwa are the good candidates in State house. Let’s be real.
I don’t know whether the name is completed by saying Sata(n)? Please help!!! His behaviour tells us he is next to the devil, probably thas is what than name mean. Satan!!!
I agree that HH is presidential material but he needs to sale himself to the other political parties so that they can form some alliances.Problem in Zambia is that even dreamers with no appear want to be presidents.HH has a countrywide appear like Obama but we have too many Hilary’s who want Ukufwilwa Munsenga.UNIP,Ngondo,Heritage,PF etc lets give HH a chance, i’m no Tonga but i feel that tribal libel has been unfairly put on the guy.He can team up with the Chirwa’s & i reckon these guys can potentially do this nation proud & stir Zed forward in all areas from 2011 onwards.Bringing a model democracy to Africa!!!
# 53 Sorry meant to say with no appeal
Lol……ama guys lelo nabafulwa…..lol…..in his rallies LPM said ask not what ur country can do for you but do something for ur country if we are 2 be fair levy has not done a bad job as president he has actually exceeded many ppls expectations however it just seems right to say negative things about a person in a position in power. No.49 what the hell are u talking about can u plz go back to 31 and see what i said exactly because it seems u have misunderstood me completely. Politics in zambia has reached the second revolution i.e. the intelligentsia (lawyers,teachers and economists) have realised their political strength, gone are the days where kaponyas like Kalos2020 used to be
/cont……called to come and dance for kafupi and then they throw them some peanuts or a few one pins that is over we are no longer that country which always bows down to everything and anything that the workers want even when their efficiency ratios are way below average if lenin was still alive he would be impressed that what he tried to achieve with his new economic policy of 1921 is happening in our country. Now to my detractors, some of u say u are in the US and will permanently stay their, we wish u all the best i was in england for 5 1/2years got my degree and i’m putting it 2 good use in my motherland i on the other hand did not decide to go live off the white mans welfare cheques
#37 what do you understand of my contribution in 15? I thought it was very clear what I am putting across?
Sorry #37 I meant #36 sorry
Ms. Moonga let those puppets and bootlikers remain. The truth will set you free. People did not want Jesus because of his frankness and bold. Mostly if you join politics you should be prepared to kill, tell lies and stealing. Of course, there are also good seeds among the tares. You wait for Shakas and Findley cases and observe how biased these two cases will be handled. Thank God we have an impartial judge who is Jesus.
Someone claimed that botswana and tanzania are more democratic than us…….that is nonsense In botswana the same party has been in power since independence and it is more like custom that their vice-president ends up becoming the President, Tanzania same party since the days of nyerere and they dont allow private newspapers just state media. I reiterate Hakayivotela Hichilema (HH) is not ready to be president and in the unfortunate event that he became preso i say this again our lifestyle will change cows in the city every dialogue will have “HA” in it and the capital will no longer be lusaka but ‘Ngombe ilede’.
Just as expected. What were you expecting? these days it is predictable what is going to happen next. We have become fortune tellers.!!!!!!!!!!!hahahaha………………hahahaha………………..
for having spoke the truth you perish.so then lpm is truly tribalistic and doesnot want to admit it.shhhh i better keep quiet before i get expelled too.
#60 MODERATE,Ha, ha, hi, hi, ha, how about joining the likes of jo-burg, the Zambia one outfit. You are really crazy taumfwa mwaice
#60 your thinking capacity makes me feel embarrassed and to ask God why he had to group me with such poverty stricken chaps like you. given a chance i would denounce you as a zambian and perhaps loan you to Rwanda or DRC where there is tribalism. the HH that you so much despise can feed your entire clan for a longtime till your thin belly drops down. so this is lunch time and i know its hunger which is increasing your anger against HH. get yourself something to eat man. the cows by the way can not be compared to finkubala which we mix with mollases to feed our animals.
mwana mubotu no 64. buluya utokwambila bani? na tamuchite makani amu noya kwenka uko ku mabisi, amu payile benka abo ba dala ba Hakayivotela Hichilema….. kubicha! look here sonny i dont care for HH and his billions, his party is going nowhere fast he has no proven political record and i dont think zambia wants an on the job training president. I know of another tonga in chilala from mkushi owner of chimsoro farms now that is a successful tonga bull who made something out of the soil he was given not utu tuma overnight billionaires eto muletesha…nonsense, u can tell by my demeanor that i am not a tribalist thats why i like mwanawasa’s policies they are nationally diverse
“There is two kinds of loyalty: loyalty to people and loyalty to principle.” – Senator George McGovern on Larry King Live.
#53, you have realised a lot of sense.
As for C. Moonga, it is good that your stood your ground to say what you believe is right. I truly respect your opinion. It can only be thrown away with credible and tangible proof.
Otherwise, stay focus and seek the good Lord’s guidance in your life. Be blessed and take care.
#51 I think you have a big problem, can you read my contribution again in #46, I said according what you bloggers are say about each of presdo to be. I was not speaking on tribal lines like you but bringing across what the pipo are saying on this blog about each of the above presdo candidates and how I feel confused coz I do not who to vote for. It is pipo on this blog who are saying HH is tribal and regional (I think they saying that coz Tongas are on record saying that only a Tonga will replace mazoka). Sata is old and sinking, dictator and no presdo material. NOW WHO SHALL I VOTE FOR? THATS MY QUESTION.
#65 moderate, the least one can say about you is that you are a great disgrace to Zambia. You are the worst liability Zambia has. One does not need to go far before he can see your tribalism. It is only good to note that Sata will never never rule Zambia. I totally agree with Mwana mubotu that it is your hunger which is making hate HH. Anyway it is not his fault that your are poor. His hard work paid him and there is no need for tribalist like you to hate the man. You can also work hard man, it is simple, get to the University, perform well, get a masters and work hard so as to earn trust from clients then you can be like HH. I know you are jealous of him because of his riches.
HH does not owe you (#65) anything for his riches. I am even wondering what is happening with your hunger which you have failed to satisfy with ifinkubala.
#67, thank you for poor contribution. I wish you were sensible to realise that Mwanajiti and Sejani do represent tongas. Just because Mwanajiti and Sejani said they wanted a tonga to replace Mazoka, did not imply that everyone tonga wanted a tonga to replace Mazoka. You will realise that, HH won landslide victory against Sikota from all provinces. If every province had seen tribalism in HH, he would have lost the elections at the convention which involved all the nine provinces of Zambia. HH had been through a convention while Sata has not been. Every sensible Zambian knows that HH is the man to vote for come 2011 to help you who to vote for.
I mean to “do not represent tongas”
yaba being a tonga blue sky is interesting
nonsense 68 i dont know if u are supposed 2 be ant-sata or anti-sata whichever one it is i can tell u are not educated, u dont just waltz ur ignorance onto this forum without checking the contributions of those u attack, at my age i can assure u that Hakayivotela Heka Hichilema (HH) was not as successful as myself and i could not give a flying F@*K if u thought i was tribalist because i dont need to prove anything 2 a mwana wampofu like urself and u will neva know who i am just be happy with eating mabisi whilst u post insults on this blog little mummy’s boy, I agree with u in 2011 if southern province becomes zambia, HH will win otherwise Hakayivotela Heka Hichilema.
#68-71 Now I know it is pipo like who are making it even impossible for some of us to like HH. Your campaign to defend HH at all cost and your hate for Sata, is just contributing to most pipo hating HH even more. Instead of you answering a simple question you are busy writing a 2 page defence for HH and castigating Sata. Gosh!!! it is impossible for some pipo to change their altitutes. You have even given yourself a name of Ant Sata. Do you think pipo out there who voted for Sata would vote (who are in majority) for your HH with that kind of hate in your hearts. NEVER BASAA!! AT MY DIED BODY!
#65 shut your stinking mouth before you pollute others.
#65 WISDOM COMES FROM GOD HENCE YOUR STUPID UTTERANCES WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.WHY CAN’T YOU GO TO RWANDA AND PRATICE THAT NONSENCE.
73 wait for my response tomorrow.
Could we please watch the language we use here!!!!Debate like intellectuals
i’ll be waiting coz this is what happens when bad meets evil.
79 i think you can have your response now. now listen mate if you want to take on me too bad. allow me to debate with your parents coz i think they could be mature. i can not talk to you because you have no class and therefore are not qualified to talk to royalty. your odour alone should place you far off from any tonga becoz they are royalty and cant associate themselves with pipo like you. choose which fellow statrving pipo you can interract with. i bet you are still looking for a tunnel around town where you hope to spend the nite from
Both Sata and HH are politicians. They both stood as republican presidential candidates in the 2006 elections. They were both rejected by the people – or to put it in a diplomatic way – they did not make it to plot one. In 2011 Zambians will talk again through their votes who to send to Plot 1 between Sata and HH (should both men decide to stand). So why are people trading insults over the two politicians when 2011 is three years away. The two politicians should not be anyone’s obsession. It is not worth it. Zambian politicians are not worth dying for or getting insulted for.
You’re right #55; gone are the days where kaponyas like Kalos2020 used to be called out to dance for kafupi… Now you’re contented they are called out to go and bow, kneel and polish the shoes of the great elephant at airports!! You amaze me. This ass-licking must surely come to an end Zedians!!! Why do you lower yourselves to such depths? And I see you think exactly like your uncle Muwelewele that those of us Zambians abroad are here because we couldn’t make it back home or that the only thing we’re good for is wiping the asses of our “white” employers.
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It’s people like you who make me feel ashamed to belong to the human race. You are disgrace to your own country and whomever you represent!!
#73, moderate. You are a fool. I guess it is not mwana mubotu who has noticed that. I now understand why they call you all sort of names in private. I never knew until now. You are right, Sata will only win when Zambia becomes Copperbelt provinces alone.
I will not tell you what I am currently doing becuase you will be ashamed with you humble paper. We don’t boast of what we do because people would think the world is unfair to them.
#74, Point of correction, the majority never voted for Satan otherwise he would have taken Zambia to hell already. The majority of Zambians rejected Satan.
With people like moderate (I can’t even understand what the fool is trying to moderate)’s hatred for HH who they call funny names, tell me how Satan can be voted in power. Anyway it is good to learn that Zambia will never get into the hands of Satan.
Satan’s followers at the copperbelt and Lusaka thought they made the majority of Zambia and needed no support from other provinces untill they lost big time. It is Satan who needs southern province for him to win but fortunately southern province cannot allow a devil in state house.
Hey! please spare my boy Moderate, he’s just thinking aloud. Whatever happened to freedom of expression, FYI not everyone subscribes to foolish political correctness.Come 2011 Hakayivotela will only win in southern Province.
lol….ha,ha,ha….he,he,hi,hi,…lol… yaba makada aya ya Hakainde, mwaswa kuli? chindi cha UPND chakamana penka palya po mazoka na fainta, abalo ba party secretary ba sejani bakamba basuni mutonga kupyana mazoka amwebo ma 5 pin cadre muka bandika ati tusuni hachilema. I admire how u shield Hakaivotela heka Hachilema (HH) but it wont happen chaps he will end up being like ben mwila auntie-sata no.84 whateva it is u are doing believe me i do not envy u i am living my dream something i have always wanted to do u guys are just jealous, ever since shakafuswa told Habeenzu you can’t screw, u have taken it personal with anyone who supports MMD
the problem pa zed is that our politicians are selfish.look back at 2001,levy won by less than 35%.the same in 2006.if the two main opposition partiies during these two genarl elctions had united, nangu ni rigging yashani, definately there would be no chuchu today.mu 2001,UPND and FDD split the opposition vote.in 2006 PF and UPND split the vote again.so,this is were the ruling party always has its upper hand.so,watch out for 2011,if there will be no unity amongst the oppositions,then just know that MMD ikawina futi.the opposition leaders know it.nombafye akaso!
we should learn from other countries.its simple mathematics,parties can harmonise their manifestos and unite if there number one goal was to serve the people but thats not the case.bushe teti chiwame ba sata or who ever leads PF in 2011 ateka and HH aba Veep? its possible.in kenya, the ruling aprty was ousted only because of unity amongst the opposition.
so,Unity is needed because we all know that the probabilty of PF winning a seat in monze district or pemba is -infinity percent.its impossible.therefore,there has to be unity.so,if we want change,our leaders should put personal ambitions behind.Zambia chalo chesu.
Someone said, “Do not argue with a fool for the on-lookers will not notice the difference.”
Please, the topic is about Findlay, Moonga, Shakafuswa and the MMD.
While I’m not a supporter of HH, he is the only democratically elected President of a political party in Zambia compared to his compatriots. The rest are self appointed or hand-picked successors.
The MMD and UPND are the only nationally represented political parties while PF is a regional party (Copperbelt and Lusaka regions – according to the Queen’s English Language) represented by Kaponyas and tribalists – with pockets of racists.
Its very SAD to note, but that is the unfortunate state of affairs currently!
#89. HH was willing to meet Sata to harness the two political parties in 2006 just before the elections. Sata refused publicly and said in his demeaning manner of something like, “I dont know that youngman, he is a calculator boy or something.”
Little did he know that the man he referred to as “I don’t know him” was a serious force to reckon with.
To those saying UPND is a regional party based in Southern Province (SP), how come then is it that my President LPM scored 42.98%, Sata 29.37%, HH 25.32, Gen GK Miyanda 1.57% and Ken Ngondo 0.76%? Do you mean that SP has many more voters than CB + Lusaka combined? Unless you just want to be in self denial, HH has a national appeal!
However, I am for a Scientist or an Applied scientist. We have tried a Lawyer, trade unionist and a form 5/6 or whatever KK managed to do b4 he assumed the Zambian Republican Presidency.
Now, it is a fair option to try an economist, but I feel a scientist will appreciate Science and Technology which will drive the Zambian Economy for my President LPM has tried to put in Laws on a pedestal which will not easily be reversed for some time to come.
I don’t know, but a combination of learned people like Prof Chirwa and HH can seriously take Zambia to the next stage towards bettering the Zambian People’s lives.
#92
there is sense in what you are saying.# 90 dont moderate the blog.we are talking about moonga and shakafusha yes but you know that all this and the moonga issue are all because of chuchu and the MMD.so we want them out so that people like Mrs Moonga can speak freely and not be expelled.therefore,it is right to talk abt opposition parties uniting to remove chuchu and his group.2011 looks far but its near.therefore time to start planning and mobilising and advopcating for the uniting of the opposition to overcome the MMD and its state machinery in 2011 is now.# 90 Are you MMD ayi?
people like Gen Miyanda,let him just join either PF or UPND because he will not manage to lead the nation on the heritage party ticket.thats why am saying,these leaders have personal ambitions.if they were surely genuie servants of the people they would lay down their personal ambitions and know that their contribution to zambia’s development is not only possible if they are at plot 1.imagine a government having HH,Chirwa ,Lubinda,etc..a mixed arrangement and not just a a goverment of family tress, bootlickers like we have.so,unity is the way forward.lets preach unity.
Me MMD #93, not at all! I just appreciate what they have achieved. I mean there is no need to complain all the time especially where you see some progress. My President LPM found Zambia as a collapsed economy, but he has stabilised the economy to some serious extent. If you look at the reports on Southern Africa now, presented all over though I like the Sky News Summit whatever, the Zambian economy is the only one which is constantly doing better. The Botswana and South African ones are almost always going down. While our economy is not the best in S.ern Africa, we are atleast going up day and night, that is what I meant when I wrote “better” in the above.
thus, I am for progress!
Honestly, the past has seen a Medical doctor heading the ministry of education ,and many ohter unrelated appointments.nangu ni leadership qualities,how do u allow a civis teacher to teach physics or vice versa.
imagine, Prof Chirwa as minister of science and technology o energy and water development,and HH minister of finance etc,all this is possible if there is unity and a genuine willingness to serve the people.nomba ubwafya bafimwena muli plot one bonse and thats why we lagg behind despite having the knowledge etc.of course these people should demonstrate the ability to lead and make things move.so it all goes down to unity and ukufunyako selfishness muma politicians.VIVA UNITY.
As for Sata, I think he simply has nothing NEW to offer which he could not do from the colonial days upto 2001 when the then President Chiluba left him in the COLD for our President LPM.
The most cardinal question to ask oneself is, what made Doctor Chiluba not to let Hon. Sata to lead Zambia in 2001? Doctor Chiluba has something to tell us on Hon. Sata for he worked with Hon. Sata for 10 solid years and failed to entrust Hon Sata with the Highest authority office in our Land.
Why did Doctor Chiluba do that? Was he out of his mind then? To me, there is something Hon. Sata can do which made Doctor to shun, at all costs, letting Hon Sata succeed him.
Just my thoughts!
#95
thats fine but of course the fact is that your president can do much better than allow all those indians who have infested chingola.Why bring in a plumber from india or boiler maker from india honestly.these are the wrongs that are being alllowed to continue.look at this this way.out of 10 deeds,if 6 are good deeds and 4 are bad deeds, you will still be labelled a good person but the bad deeds could be so fatal.so in as much as statistics on economic progress are favouring Zambia,there are alot of anomalies happening.they should also compile statistics wrong deeds too.
honestly, you bring in over 400 workers whose skills are locally available ninshi finshi tulepanga.#90,we are still talking abt moonga and shaka ok,its just that we have gone to the root of the problem.and yet we are busy saying unemployment is rising etc,somewhere something is wrong and the immigration laws are allowing such to happen.therefore thats where we have the problem.ubuteko bulikwisa? honestly if its true that some of the chinese constructing roads are prisoners,then awe sure,tuli mu bwafya.
I think I have presented a fair and sound picture of our scenario in Zambia and Zambian politics for now. Therefore, I will go on the background and see what others have to write on here.
In the words of #96, it is UNITY that will take us to higher heights as a country. Hon Sata has to stop propagating his TRIBAL SENTIMENTS to the rest of Zambians. What he is doing is harming the nation (see most comments above). UPND is not a regional party, PF is the regional party because it has not proper structure right from its HQ to the rest of the 9 provinces of Zambia.
“If you can’t beat them, join them.”Let us unity and usher in a NEW PARTY come 2011. “Too much of one thing (MMD) is very dangerous”
Eagle-One USA. Are you on drugs? What the hell are you talking about? If you don’t understand something, the best thing you can do is either you keep quiet or you ask. I live in California. I am really out of words to describe how you came up with your utterances. Please read my postings and you will really know the person that I am. Just becoz I mention being part of the trailbrazers of MMD on CB, does not qualify me the way you wish I am. Man you need help. If you cannot find it, bury yourself. All I can ask you is read my postings and read your own, you’ll really see that you need to be at Chainama. Not Hotel, but Hospital.
#99. I HEAR you and your perceptions on the issues you have highlighted are real.
We have had some nice time, I think. No insults, but fact upon fact. This is what should become of Zambians #99. Let us look at issues carefully and analyse them with patience. All needs to be done in and for Zambia!
That is why I mentioned that change is inevitable in 2011. We see, CHANGE allows the voted out party to check where the went wrong. Look at how the Republicans and Democrats change power in the US.
That is a model, if we ever hope to develop. And this is my reason for writing that Hon Sata has had his time. Let NEW BLOOD come to the fore. look America is talking about OBAMA – completely NEW! ENJOY!
#102 thankx.i am the same blogger #98,99,96,94,93.
for sure, lets use fora like LT to preach UNITY amongst the opposition and to analyze issues affecting us because takwakabe kumbi oko tukaya.zambia chalo chesu.wether other countries are more developed,home is home and therefore we all want the best for zed.currenlty am studying outside zed but am coming back to work there and thats why i have a heart for my country.its great to be in touch with abena Zambia banandi noku landa pama problems ya chalo that are being brought upon us by selfish politicians nakalimo party cadres coz for real,some leaders have cardre mentality and thats why we see them boot licking etc.
hi every one……Sata survived praise be to God
Hehehehehehehe!!!! moderate. I don’t know what the guy would have done had Satan died!!! You are so a serious supporter of Satan.Your hatrad for the smart and intelligent HH will not take you anywhere. HH is leading a life that you admire. You are only jealous of him. Mwana mubotu has already told us the truth about you. You are bitter about the rich and hard working as if they are the cause of your poverty. We told you that it is easy, just work hard and you can be like HH. Rich at a tender age and presidential material, by far much better than your Satan.
The way of showing your support actually breeds contempt. be careful how patriotic you are. This tech age wina izamuletelela. Unless of course you are from the family roots.
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Circus land = zambia
Blood is thicker than beer…cabbage + Shamfu
Zed people eat corruption…if no corruption. Consulting Engineers, judges, magistrates, laywers, accoutants,purchasing officer/buyers, bakapokola, etc too many to list will die of hunger
What a country
107 looking for a fight. no man. we have now signed off. just prepare yourself for another day without food on your table as kings dine and wine to the finest champagne and a six course meal that money can buy.
Great stuff and thanks #103. Hope to have another chat with you some other time. Enjoy yourself and keep well.
#107 you wonder what type of a human being he is. rather lower than an *****
Mrs Moonga should be our next presidential candidate. I would like to know more about her. What is her level of education? We need a person like her but in addition to her sense of national unity, she must have an education of some sort. Could she have been educated under KK?
Those that know her, please ask her to publicise her background. We need a leader. She is brave and I can see that she would take no nonsense if anyone tried to mess up with the needs of the vast majority of Zambians. She has my vote.
no. 107…. and more stupid than the devil. what kind of hatred is this. it cannot be from a himan being but some evil spirit of some sort..
Syakafuswa’s case has dragged.I am keeping my fingers crossed for the uncome especially that he belongs to the family tree……
#111 & 113 Good for you, you leap what you sow!!!! – Hatred!!!
this blog is dead anything that goes over 150 comments does not appeal to me in the end u will force me 2 reveal my identity which will undermine me major i apologise for having offended anybody, but i have no regrets i am just happy i can boast to ppl here in england that the economically active population in zambia is second 2 none in africa after this blog i can walk confident and say i am proud 2 be zambian god bless u all i have learnt a lot. By the way i am for Levy and not sata.
by the way dont mistake my gracious exit as a sign of weakness because if u evaluate my track record on LT u will realise i am a man of principle and i give respect were its due, having said that i can match every argument that anyone can present about our next leader post 2011, i’m not throwing down the gauntlet but realistically i have forgotten why i am arguing on a blog that has clearly got nothing to do with the topic at hand, i could be a victim of my own circumstances, but it was worthwhile, to members of this parliament, i thank u gentlemen.
Moonga was right, but in all the senses the MMD was not wrong to suck her. Imagin if you find your dad on top of another woman can you go and start announcing that my dad is a fool.There is always a way of handling every problem, what she would have done is to discuss whatever problem within the party first, and if nothing worked out then she would have resign on basis that she dont share the same values or ideals with the party leadership.
Zambia. You should be awake by this time. Please keep professional political thieves from going into state house. The type of Chiluba are not what people now want in power. Go for real leaders, not thieves. Sata’s tribe is known for long fingers. Shame on you, Kawalalas and you should stop accusing other tribes of being tribalists, when you are the waist segregators and tribalist group in zed. If you think copperbelt, Lusaka,Lwapula and Kasama are provinces capable of putting a Bemba in power, you are going to be shocked big time again. HH-UPND and MMD for state house. plot 1 is in the area of the bantu bo tatwe and for the bantu bo tatwe.
UnWiseman #119. I know your parents did not tell you that smoking dope is bad, but it is. What makes you think of saying such things publicly if not drugs? Do you read? The topic is; Ms Moonga Expelled… . Your pin head strays way into those stupid tribal rants that only a watermelon like you can venture into. Who is discussing bantu bo tatwe nonsense. Next time you look in your mirror don’t forget to say to yourself, “I am a pinhead and have a pea brain”.
Ladies and Gentlemen, sorry that I had to respond the way I did to this fool. It is such *****s that have preyed on Zambians to foster divison by race, sex, tribe, creed, color, names, social status and anything divisive.
#119 Fooooooliiiiish man, just go and continuing slaughtering chickens and ngombe ilede. You are used of your beastility, thats your nature !!!!
Lets have respect for each other.
No state house to thieves. Period.You are the best fool because you have ben surviving on stiling. And this is true because you the crooks who still the state resources are the worst foolishiiiiiiii men on earth. Millions of Kwachas worthy of shoes and suits for Kafupi and his group, forged qualifications, etc and you think legitimate Zambians should support such nonsense. To hell with you, stinking thieves and *****s who destroyed our economy. Viva HH and MMD, Viva aboonse bantu bo tatwe.
Wiseman, you are just jealousy of how Bemba speaking people carry themselves. Do you know how much a good looking pair of shoes cost @ Nordstrom or Macy’s? Are you going to investigate my 4 yrs old kid for his pairs of shoes and pairs Jeans from Robinson’s May and Nordstroms? Reminder sir, a simple $300.00 suit is already in Millions in Kwacha. So, the issue of shoes and suits is mute. Are you the guy who was counting Chiluba’s shoes as 100 shoes instead of 50 pairs of shoes? Chiluba did not introduce smart dressing to the Bemba people. Go watch the traditional Imbeni Dance of the Bemba. You will know that these people are clean and deserve suits.
I will never be jealousy of thieves. I only admire hardworking people, principled, innovative, focused and overall legimate in their dealings. People who assume leadership for others to benefit and not to disadvantage them further, by crooking and stilling. Leaders like LPM and HH is what Zed needs now.
#125 Mr Foolish man pls spare our chickens they are melt for eating not for f***king. As for Hakayivotela Himwine, he will never rule zed thats the fact. Come 2011, you, mr Foolishman will come testify that, indeed there was a prophet on LT blog who foresaw that Hakayivotela Himwine, only voting for himself. MARK MY WORD.