PF wants 2009 budget to address effects of global economic downturn

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The opposition Patriotic Front (PF) has called on government to ensure that the 2009 budget was designed in a manner that would address the country’s challenges which have come as a result of global economic recession.

PF vice president, Guy Scott, said the opposition party is concerned with the negative impact of the global financial crisis.

Speaking during a media briefing at the party headquarters in Lusaka today, Dr. Scott said there was need for government to heed to calls from his party to cut on its expenditure.

He said cutting government expenditure would help address some of the challenges the country is facing due to the prevailing global financial meltdown.

And the PF vice president has urged government to expeditiously issue a report on the alleged secret Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) prisons in the country as reported in the international media.

Dr. Scott said his party was waiting for a report from government because the American government through its embassy in the country has since denied operating secret CIA prisons in Zambia.

The call for the report follows an order from US President Barrack Obama to close secretly operated CIA prisons in various countries, including Zambia as reported in some sections of the international media.

Meanwhile, PF spokesperson Given Lubinda alleged that most of the Permanent Secretaries which were recently appointed to government were not competent to run the civil service because they did not have the technical knowledge and experience.

Mr. Lubinda charged that the appointments amounted to abuse of office and a campaign strategy by the ruling party for the 2011 elections.

He further alleged that most of those appointed to the position of permanent secretaries are people that campaigned for President Banda during for the October 30th 2008 presidential elections.

Meanwhile two former senior MMD official and ministers in the second republic have defected to the opposition PF.

The duo, who held various portfolios in the Fredrick Chiluba led government are Kuyoto Kunyanda and William Harrington.

They announced their resignation from the ruling MMD to join opposition PF at the same media briefing, citing weaknesses in the MMD leadership.

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85 COMMENTS

  1. What!!
    CIA IN ZAMBIA
    The call for the report follows an order from US President Barrack Obama to close secretly operated CIA prisons in various countries, including Zambia as reported in some sections of the international media

  2. “The duo, who held various portfolios in the Fredrick Chiluba led government are Kuyoto Kunyanda and William Harrington.”

    All the best in PF/Sata and take care you too.

    “Birds of the same feathers always flock together” – Unknown.

  3. “The opposition Patriotic Front (PF) has called on government to ensure that the 2009 budget was designed in a manner that would address the country’s challenges which have come as a result of global economic recession.”

    Why can not you PF/Sata produce an alternative Zambian budget the way the UPND does instead of acting as if you are advisers to the President RB Banda Administration?

    You propose things to reduce government expenditure and yet you want by-elections for 16 or so MPs. Where is the sense, as such is a perpendicular venture?

  4. # 10.Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, do you honestly expect that PF can produce an alternative budget like you are suggesting. You need to temper your expectations about PF and just appreciate atleast these comments they have made since they make sense.

  5. 12. Engine Bbuloko greetings. I had no option but to laugh out loud when I read “# 10.Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, do you honestly expect that PF can produce an alternative budget like you are suggesting. You need to temper your expectations about PF and just appreciate atleast these comments they have made since they make sense.”

    Otherwise, I am trying to help PF/Sata to stop wasting time but do something that can reflect that they/he are/is more serious than mere noise-makers on the scene.

    Let us given them a chance, may be they can take this advice and then produce a surprise. I remember that we used to have MOST IMPROVED Awards each time we sat for exams in school, i.e., pri. and sec..

  6. The purpose of an opposition political party is to offer constructive criticism, provide checks and balances even commend government for the policies implemented well. PF is not doing that. Dr G. Scott’s comments are vague, incomprehensible and mare rhetoric. He failed to suggest what expenditure Government must avoid and what supplements it should have. Dr has failed to highlight what projects government must prioritize its CAPEX and what projects must have reduced OPEX. The luck of suggestion to provide an alternate budget or highlight the PF’s budget framework is indicative that PF has no alternative solution. In times of ignorance, silence is good.

  7. Masetro Hhehe—– will die with UPND and will never rule zed.Always u just campaign for HH.U’ve never left Sata alone in your comments.Really,something is wrong with u.maybe ba sata did something to yo family.Nevertheless, PF is the only opposition party we have in zed.Viva Pf

  8. Pf is very good at campaigns. The problem is they have never mastered the art of the ballot. While guy scot, sata and lubinda are all in lsk mmd provincial chairmen are busy preparing voters for mass registration in strongholds

  9. # 13. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe…thanx for the greetings, am ok and just relaxing. I have never meant to mean with anyone or PF or MMD or UPND but I think I do appreciate the capacities of these parties AT THE MOMENT. It has never occured to me that Sata can call a meeting to brianstorm about zambia’s economic emancipation. I have this feeling that most policy statements made are materials for the press.

  10. Pf is good at campaigns. The problem is they have never mastered the art of the ballot. While scott, sata and lubinda are all in lsk mmd provincial chairmen are busy preparing voters for mass registration in strongholds

  11. Engine Bbuloko and others, I just thought that it will be great to leave you the following:
    “Great things start small.” – Anonymous.
    “Money is like a sixth sense without which you cannot make a complete use of the other five.” – W. Summerset Maugham.
    Until the next time, this has been Mugungulu Hamwaambwa Mwaanga.

    15. russia -moscow greetings, on “Masetro Hhehe—– will die with UPND and will never rule zed.Always u just campaign for HH”, whatever happens “IT IS WELL WITH MY SOUL”!

    ===
    REAL LusakaTimes. com 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambians in the past, 2009 and the future.

  12. Strange how PF, who have been blaming RB for the downturn in the mines and other sectors, suddenly acknowledge that there is infact a global crises. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

  13. I have the following comments on the PF positions in line with #14;

    1. Govt should not reduce expenditure because of the global economic crisis. It should actually increase except it should in productive areas to help the economy.

    2. PF should go further and cite the exact areas govt should save and where they should spend. Those Audit reports that show serious revenue losses should be cited.

    3. I feel Lubinda could be having a point on this PS issue he has repeated several times now, let him go further and cite the wanting PSs.

  14. Russia-Moscow who told you that PF is the only opposition party, Zambia has more than 11 parties. Yes, PF came second next time they will be sixth or third if you are lucky. These thugs will never ever rule Zambia, I have started praying for VJ so that in 2011 he makes you have toothache.

  15. 15. russia -moscow, on “U’ve never left Sata alone in your comments”, this is a LIE and please confess it for forgiveness. There are many comments in threads where I have never written about the Undereducate Sata. You can only dispute this if you do not know the meaning of the word “NEVER”. Pleae, check it in a dictionary!

    On “Really,something is wrong with u.maybe ba sata did something to yo family.Nevertheless, PF is the only opposition party we have in zed.Viva Pf”, I respect your opinion.

    However, what do you me a “we”? I am a Zambian and what I know is that there are many opposition political parties. In fact, PF/Sata don’t represent me individually! So, avoid blanketing me.

  16. CIA secret prisons in Zambia? What a hip of hog wash from unpatriotic daft politics keen to risk the country to bakamyemfu.Just take all post reporters to the same prisons and blow it to the world than risking national security.Usual lies that KK had arms cache at Panji’ Sindamisale farm, Saddam in the country,US $4 billion statched in offshow accounts, Andrew Sardanis fled Zambia with US $ 4 billion and now this another unsubstantiable lie.On Harrington and Siyoto Nkuyanda,the two are dead woods without a political leverage or constituency.They have never been factors in national politics.Good luck to them and hope they have not moved to be informants.

  17. # 15. russia -moscow, I dont agree with you that PF is the only Opposition in Zambia. It could be that my brother its long whan you were in Zambia, Zambia has a countless Oposition Parties.

  18. #21 you are intelligent many of these PS have first degrees, Lubinda I know he has talktime but what is his qualification? The qualified people are Bob Sichinga, HH, Chisanga, Sikota,etc. This list excludes SATA, LUBINDA, MUMBI and SAMPA

  19. 23. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe continued.

    17. Engine Bbuloko later!

    15. russia -moscow, avoid blanketing me… and other Zambians who do not agree with PF/Sata in your encompassing words by using words like “me” or “I” in place of “we” in “Nevertheless, PF is the only opposition party we have in zed.”

    I hope this is clear my fellow SDA, if you are a baptised Seventh Day Adventist Church member as you claimed some time back, and Zambian Citizen.

    ===
    Real LT 2008 Award Winner. =; for Zambians in 2009.

  20. Your PF has failed exams oh elections three times, this shows dullness. These PS you are looking down on are better than you who failed a simple JAVA question.

  21. #26
    Ba Zambia ninshi kanshi excluding, excluding so abanenu….Hheeeeh!
    Abena Sata….balikosa..did you notice how the outcry was when there was a suggestion to include qualification requirement of atleast degree level in the constitution? :d

  22. # 22. Zambia, someone today posted a nice saying to the effect that you cant tell the character of the rider by the nature of horse they ride…something like that. Its true about these political issues. You can tell the calibre and ideological framework of a person just by looking at the political party they support.

    To those of you who have sworn political allencies, just look at your preffered parties, it will tell you volumes about yourself.

  23. Ok cease fire!!!! guys n ladies stop talking about qualifications. I remember how one politician teased us at Unza then that graduates from there can not even design a tooth pick!

    And then the presido then, warned that he was going to close Unza for 10 years! :d:d:d:d

    So please be kind, talking about qualifications and mentioning some people is like trying to chew wood and gum at the same time.

  24. #29 Talk talk does not mean you are strong, I remember there was one boy at Serenje Sec Sch who was a champion in talking like SATA. One day a new small boy passed a knuckle on his face and this chap ran away. Ask Lupunga if Sata is strong.

  25. #24 Chapi, agreed, just to add: isn’t this the same Harrington who resigned a few days before the elections last year and joined PF?
    I do not know about Kuyoto (by the way correct name is Siyoto, I think) Kunyanda, but certainly the PF has recruited Harrington twice now. This can translate into votes for PF so Judge Mumba (ECZ) is urged to watch out for rigging from the accusers!

  26. #37, dont worry its just politiking. Its like we now have a party (PF) that is good at politiking but does not show traits of being able to deliver if in govt and a party that does not seem to know how to get into power (UPND) but does show traits of being able to deliver if in govt…. :d:d:d…again please PF and UPND pundits!:)>-:)>-

  27. Maestro,i would love to meet you in person,especialy if you are not married. You can make a great husband and father. Give me your address? Were are you based?

  28. #36 Zambia, you are a shallow minded prion.You dont know the role of an opposition political party.
    You are like Maestro whose testicular tissues started developing from the enchephalon.
    If people like William Harrington can decide to join PF instead of your tribemate HH,then it means that PF is a good political party.
    You will die while waiting for HH.
    Look at the number of votes that he got in the just ended elections.Shame!

  29. #40. Donovanosis, my brother, its better to advance your reasons why you think people should follow your political inclinations. Dont be deceived by these pseudo names that people use on this blog, most of these blogers are intelligent and well exposed people who can not be insulted or conned into submission.

    Just advance your reasons in simple terms. Using some bilogical terms to sound sophiscated does not help. If we start using advanced Engineering terms on hear, you will probaly be lost.

    Dont hang me, message to you is urgue intelligently not forceful and abusive pursuasion.

  30. #10 are you telling me that the proposed budget by UPND has been accepted by GRZ.this GRZ whether you propose, they like going there own way. PF has proposed a lot of things to our GRZ but there response is always negative, they say PF has no rights to tell us how to rule this country.how many people/parties including UPND has been giving advise to this GRZ and what has GRZ done about the cries of the majority;? **==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**==**== I LOVE ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION.

  31. VAT should reduce to 14%, PAYE should reduce (first income band rate should be 0 – 1,000,000), while minimum wage should increase govt to determine (:((:((:(()

  32. #40 How can New Zealand accept a shallow minded person, is William Harrington your yardstick? People join political parties to amass wealth look at some PFs you are about to expel. Harrington failed to improve football when he was Sports minister. The problem you may have is hatred for Tongas, I am not one of them. Admitedly, I like this HH.

  33. I agree with blogger above who says PF just offers critism. Thats mere politiking. Guy Scott could have done better by providing suggestions on how to address the economic down turn. Afterall they too would be serving the interests of the Zambian people without necessarily being in power.
    To start with, trim the size of the cabinet. A lot of money is going towards allowances and gratuity in ministrties with 2 ministers, 2 deputy miniters and now 2 PSs each. Enough!

  34. Obama endorse sata

    What would you do, sir, if the thug scrounging your front street, with all good intentions, is advising you how to take care of your family? He himself is in the meantime perpetually fighting with his concubine.

    To add salt to injury, the thug tells you that you dont respect your wife.?!!!#@@**

  35. #40 Your PF is not appealing because of the thugs. Just look at your language, it reflects your party, Since I am not Bemba I won’t join it. Its better to support inclusive parties like UPND and MMD. Sakwiba with his ULP were suffocated by your Pf MEMBERS and he repented for supporting your party in 2006.

  36. Obama endorse sata

    The Mogul is just doing the motions. What else can he do? He must prove some kind of usefulness to the mean fellow after all. Isn’t it?

  37. On the same lines…Someone enlighten me. What is the role of a Provincial Minister? What about the Mayor, Town Clerk and the DC? How are they different? Do we need all these people in office or is it a way of providing employment?

  38. Sata and Scot zwaa… Lubinda and Chishimba please take over the running of PF, otherwise we are losing again in 2011. MMD it is your day give us a good budget. HH put pressure we need you in 2011, the Obama way, ‘YES WE CAN’

  39. “If you take [Lusaka Province permanent secretary] Stephen Bwalya, how do you expect people from University of Zambia to get advice from Bwalya who was just a ng’wa ng’wazi [call boy]?” Sata asked. “He was my boy, I know him. Bwalya can’t even remember his signature twice. Source Post 30/1/09 These are the words of Sata HIMSELF. But cadres like #40 fail to read their PARTY. PF has more ng’wa ng’wazi Do you expect us the intelligent people who remember our signatures to be ruled by thugs? #40 ANSWER THIS QUESTION!

  40. Great stuff PF. I am not a PF supporter but its good to note that we have atleast one opposition party.

    On the qualifications issue, depending on when you graduated from the University of Zambia, please spare us, with useless degrees obtained through leakages.

    Maestro and Engine Bbuloko you are very hopeless tonga bulls. I have told you, UPND is not going further than your big noses. I’ld like to meet you in person. If you are in Zambia, name the time and place. I am tonga, but you embarrass me with your useless attacks on individuals. Ubututu bwa ba tonga

  41. You as an accountant of a huge corporation decide to borrow the balance sheet of the guy running a Kathemba in Chipulukusu to learn from it and apply in your business! Inthe meantime everyone knows that the owner of thr Kathemba has only a scribled page of grade four note book he once held.

    What would sanity say to reason ‘You have gone bonkus’

  42. The scribled page of the note book reads ‘ mayi namu is Chi a l aoo .e ‘

    The fellow has kept it bound all these years and only shows it to himself.

    Just imagine what his balance books would look like.

  43. #53 Learn to debate intelligently. There are no dogs at UNZA for you to blame those with degrees. You PF cadres you hate education, you don’t want degrees.

  44. Bakaamba Ba Zambia, Sister, Engine Block – shani ukushupana so? Just debate properly and enlighten us on some of these issues. Not Copperbelt Language pantu nga twayamba bonse kuti mwabutuka pantu kuti twamupela amachabe yabili (ukuba aba chabechabe). Be level minded ama zebigge

  45. Very interesting to hear Scot suggesting what others are calling “sense” from PF. What should be asked is why should PF come now to say “sense” hours before the budget is presented? To me this tells me that the PF who call RB as a sleeping president they themselves have been sleeping. I do not believe they even understand how a National budget is formulated. Scot, Sata, Lubinda Coppebelt chairman for PF can you please step down now and let focused leaders drive PF. If these guys are serious they should have started three months back sugesting what should go in the budget where gvt should reduce or increase allocation of funds etc.They could have even lobbied some other stake holders like the church, workers unions ngos etc. But alas they were busy trying to organise demos. They will never rule!

  46. 53. SISTER greetings. Imwe mayo, ninshi mwalitemwa sana ifya kubosa ilingi?
    What sense is in “Maestro and Engine Bbuloko you are very hopeless tonga bulls. I have told you, UPND is not going further than your big noses”?
    On “I’ld like to meet you in person. If you are in Zambia, name the time and place. I am tonga, but you embarrass me with your useless attacks on individuals. Ubututu bwa ba tonga”, firstly I am glad that you finally apeear reason in my suggestion to meet you and pump some sense in your mind. Secondly, contact me on [email protected] so that we can arrange a meeting of course outside Zambia since I am in the EU and you look like you are also.
    ===
    LT ’08 Award Winner.

  47. SISTER what a man! the tone is definitely masculine. You are a coward by pretending to be female. How did you get along with leakages from grade 7, form 2/3, form 5 and at UNZA?

  48. Let us for once assume that there is some sense in what PF is suggesting.

    But then asumption is such a great evil.

  49. In assuming, we may fall into a terrible ditch. Assumming that a blind person can drive a vehicle can be very fatal. Assuming that a grade four drop out can outdo a professional accountant could have more serious consequencies.

  50. #53 Sister, I think you have lost the plot. First you cheat that you are Tonga and then you start insulting Tongas. For your own information, I dont discuss tribes and am not going to tangle with people like you. You are the people that think that you are superior than others just because of your tribe. Spare us the nonsense and let inteligent people debate here.

    When did I ever insult anyone on this blog? If my well thought blogs sound like insults to you, then am sorry but what else can I do? If you want to meet me, lets meet! am in Belgium.

  51. #57 Zambia. We have gotten you out of the village, but it seems impossible to get the village out of your system. I am not PF for your own information and not all PF members are cadres.

    #59 Chibe Chibe. Its just these………..fi whats name. I dont enjoy using such language, but I totally disagree with people who always talk about others just because they come from a tribe that they dont like.

    #53 Maestro Greetings. I’m pa zed its just my flag. We will meet my friend we have to agree on these issues. Meanwhile, I have kept your email address. I want you to start thinking like a man

  52. #69 Sister, what you have started now is a defence mechanism that we all know too well. Can you tell us which tribe does not like which tribe.

    If you favour a grade 4 over a proffesional Accountant and economist, what are we supposed to think of you!

    Just relax my friend, Zambia will soon be better as most people have now begun to differenciate between chuff and real stuff.

  53. SISTER, YOU are a proper cowards.. why do you want to became a girl. Your province is more of a village dispite pludering the national coffers.

  54. Check out (google) the reuters article:

    U.N. urges African economies to diversify

    Finally the economic experts at the UN are willing to back the obvious. Develop agriculture? Now there’s a thought.

  55. Please being a villager is not a bad thing. I am proud to be a villager. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a villager.

  56. These abscondees that you call Kaponyas have abrogated their rights on their ancestral lands. They have left us to work the land on our own. Wait until they come crying back to us.

  57. Sony Ericsson Phiri

    I am yet to come across an Easterner with such an uncourth character as you. You are probably as you blog riding a monkey.

  58. # 71. Zambia :d:d:d Dont go there! When I saw towns like Mansa, Chiengi, Mpika,Kasama, Mongu, Pemba, Lundazi, Mumbwa I could not understand why some Zambians want to sound like they originate from Jo’berg or Paris! or New York, Zambia is a one homogeneuos poor lot! Lets just put our brains together and develop it. Living in superioty fantansies will not help.

  59. The 2009 budget is a really good opportunity for RB and Situmbeko to show us how they plan to deal with all aspects of the economy, at least in the short term. I wait with bated breath.

  60. Anonymous i know you have a radio b/4 you. Up date us on the speech by Finance Minister. What is PAYE like…..80%?

  61. Mwe bantu, mwe bantu, twaponenena! Kwati twachiya apatali. SISTER, don’t worry. These guys are just troubling you. Kuli bonse, ati shani bajeti yaba RB? Ka PAYE kali shani?

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