The United Party for National Development (UPND) and the Patriotic Front (PF) have formed a national governing council to preside over the agreement signed last week.
UPND spokesperson Charles Kakoma says the council consisting of 18 members from PF and UPND will run the affairs of the pact.
Mr. Kakoma told ZNBC news that another team of six people from the 18-man delegation has been formed to co-ordinate the affairs of the two parties.
He noted that the two political parties are not merging and will not form a new political party but are working at addressing a common cause.
Mr. Kakoma also said that PF leader Michael Sata and UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema are not part of the governing council which comprises of ordinary members from the two parties.
He said the new agreement is a working one and that the PF and UPND are not discussing the Presidential candidate for the 2011 elections.
And the Constituency Concerned Citizens Forum has hailed the Patriotic Front (PF) and the United Party for National Development (UPND) for entering into a political pact.
Constituency Concerned Citizens Forum national chairman for information and publicity, Wilbroad Mutoloka said the formation of the political pact was ideal in a democratic set up.[quote]
Mr Mutoloka however advised the two political parties to hold national conventions to accord their members a chance to elect leaders of their choice for various organs of the party and a candidate for the 2011 general elections.
He noted that holding of conventions is a health and democratic way of doing things because it accords people chance to elect leaders of their choice.
He urged the PF to embrace the culture of holding national conventions like the UPND and MMD in order for the newly formed pact to succeed.
Mr Mutoloka also urged the two political parties to promote dialogue with the government of the day in matters of political, social and economic development.
He noted that Zambians need alternative solutions to the prevailing social, economic and political challenges in the country.
Last week, the PF and the UPND entered into a political pact aimed at challenging the Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD) in the 2011 general elections.
ZANIS
When people are in dire situations they usually make the worst decisions which they will live to regret later on. Maybe we will see a zambian ‘night of the long knives’ one day
these prostitutes will cuff each other…. MMD is busy rigging as we speak and they are playing games, aya bane mahule…. dang I am glad i dont leave there, democracy in zed is like hahahahaha a joke
Great from the mighty UPND Team and PF on “UPND spokesperson Charles Kakoma says the council consisting of 18 members from PF and UPND will run the affairs of the pact. Mr. Kakoma told ZNBC news that another team of six people from the 18-man delegation has been formed to co-ordinate the affairs of the two parties.“. I advise you to continue with this spirit you have taken and only do the endorsing of a single presidential candidate in 2011 two weeks before the tripartite elections are held. This move will seriously throw the MMD and other parties which will not join you in disarray.
Can you also show leadership UPND by condemning the violence that is from PF cadres.___
Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a branch one day). Prevention is better than cure.
2 Chengelo alumni greetings and long time, mwanookwesu. Mbuti maumi musa?
Have a blessed day as I retire briefly from blogging.
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a branch one day). Prevention is better than cure.
Every Journey starts with one step forward. Lets look beyond just working together for a common goal and also beyond selfish desires. Lets join hand so that we merge the two parties and form on party and I suggest the name should be UPND-PF. Lets also not hide in the sand but come out in the open and talk about who this party should field in 2011 so that we convincingly form the next government that will deliver the intended benefits to our people. I suggest that of the two leaders HH and MCS, MCS should be the first President of this party whilst HH deputises. KAYA NI FOOD FOR THOUGHT CHABE IYO.
Good move guys….we hope you mean business this time. In fact if we can have a govnt of this pact corruption can be checked. We dont want a yes bwana ministers in zambia. Loking at UPND and PF principles, a corrupt minister cant go unexposed. Go go guys we want these thieves out 2011. REVOLUTION 2011.
Kaya mwee… fili eko tuleya….
I went to church some day , one striking message was how gratifying it is when opposing parties join hands together . Citizens are waiting and watching…… governing council good idea.
I Pensively thought some day , one striking message was how gratifying it is when opposing parties join hands together . Citizens are waiting and watching…… governing council good idea.
Thats why we are economic refugees ubupuba pa Zed!!
LT since your block my analytical thinking , I shall watch and read …..
i can only laugh
“and that the PF and UPND are not discussing the Presidential candidate for the 2011 elections”.Quote
The whole academic exercise’s futility is in its lack of unity and clear purpose. All we are seeing are antill maded political statements allien to the grassroot who only after are being dragged to kiss the marriage of convenience between sole losers.Human being are not moved like pawns on a chess board.To build binding solidarity, the grassroot is the real axis of power if widely engaged in consensus. Political integration starts at the grassroot with shared social progress vallue.
“and that the PF and UPND are not discussing the Presidential candidate for the 2011 elections”.Quote
This is a typical case of “conflict theorists” playing the futile haphazard none rational political acrobatics alienating their grassroots.
Can ba Sata be trusted with state power and expected to respect any signed MoU once he is presido….maybe kaya mama! But the idea is good!
Mwanamuchende,
” Lets join hand so that we merge the two parties and form on party and I suggest the name should be UPND-PF.”
How about the UPF? The United Patriotic Front. 🙂
Seriously though, they should be very clear about what economic policy they stand for, so the people have a choice, and don’t just against the MMD because of corruption, but vote for something. I am looking forward to hearing their analysis of the economic situation, and what policies they have to remedy it.
I believe that the pact will be received with full support by all meaningfull citizens. Zambia today is in a major crisis and only meaningfull interaction with major stakeholders will help bring up true sense of leadership. A pact will be a good development as it will bring about proper accountability on the use of public funds. Am an advocate of transparency on the use of public funds. Good luck to the pact
BEMBAS and TONGAS at the same table arguing over nothing. ….. Sata wants to lead and HH wants to lead too…. isnt the presidency the whole issue??? I am sorry but what else are they discussing??? let me guess, ok who is gonna head the most lucrative company in the country also known as the ministry of health…. ba kapala need a dose of reality… the first lady will use more money to buy more fitenges and LV purses…
Mukandeti, u should expose more of your lovely face. U are sweet mwaiche. Maestro mulibuti badala? Mwalinyongangana aisha. Mwahwa?
#15 i love ur screen name…. Black Jombo….
15 Blackjombo ndalumba, yalaba ndemwaaba! Ali “Mwalinyongangana aisha. Mwahwa? Ndateelela, pele ino kamuyungizwa basa tiicayaka munzi ci-Tonga nchomwalemba. Naa, mwanyongana nzi sena?
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a tree’s branch – one day).
thanx Chengelo, u liseli la lifasi.
17 continued.
Kamu langa mabala aakaimbo nkevwidilila kuno, basa.
Mutwe wakaimbo: Mupijai by United Advent from Thornpark SDA Church
1. Namininoki nitongozo kikunamani
Kunamweni makinka yanantwali
Nimwinjima unaetiho unehimpempela
Izudenu dinakuosha kudami
Chorus:
Niimweni nichinji zudhani wayi
Danikanga movumukwesekewa
Mupijai yamakani di wanyikanga
Ngovuya ku kingahambanji
2. Tichuneseka nakukinga kwesekewa
Nakanyanga amineimushi yankawami
Nakola wanyi, wanta wa nkoleshenu.
Ntanishi yenu wantana kwashanga
Enjoy yourself and take careful care.
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a tree’s branch – one day).
18 Blackjombo, wena muchaha yabulela si-Lozi. Ulobale hande. Mina nazamaya.
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a tree’s branch – one day).
UPND wake up! don’t you realize that PF is trying to use you to get the support of your members? The alliance does not make sense to me if the two parties are not merging…say what you have to say, coz i could care less !d!ots.
I think Zambia has more organizations than the country’s population…..I follow current affairs fairly good…and almost every other day i see an organization’ name that i do not recognize, wow! vyakulolavye!
“and that the PF and UPND are not discussing the Presidential candidate for the 2011 elections”.Quote
Then what is the way forward since Zambia has only one State house, one constitutional head of state?
With this culture of thuggery in PF now getting out of hand under full blessings of Sata as matching orders on internal dissent, I foresee rival PF leaders killing each other using armed cadres. Members must sacrifice their time and lives to salvage this imploding titanic. A convention is the way to go so that people elect sober heads.I pray HH doesn’t challenge Sata on his irrational statements because, he risks an ascendary of Sata’s thuggery skinning him live.If he thinks the clause that no criticising each other was squeezed in out of nothing, then UPND is in for a shock.criticise Sata at your own peril as Board Guards are on stand by to leave UPND headless before 2011.
PF thuggery Body Guards at the order of Sata are ready to leave UPND headless.
#24/25 Senior Citizen
Democracy without responsibility is foolish. Who will benefit from the democracy if the voters’ choices are diminished by poverty? Democracy of poverty is what has led many Zambians, like you, to think and vote with their stomachs and not with their brains.
It’s a question of priorities and necessity. Not proceedures. Even in a home, you don’t go on to throw a christmas party just because everybody is doing it, even when you can’t afford it. You first assess your means.
As for MMD, no thought is spared before committing vast sums of money, even in the midst of such high poverty levels in the country. Conventions are held but candidates are declared winners well before the convention and whoever opposes, they are dealt a heavy blow.
Similarly, no…
#24/25 Senior Citizen
Democracy without responsibility is f o o l i s h. Who will benefit from the democracy if the voters’ choices are diminished by poverty? Democracy of poverty is what has led many Zambians, like you, to think and vote with their stomachs and not with their brains.
It’s a question of priorities and necessity. Not proceedures. Even in a home, you don’t go on to throw a christmas party just because everybody is doing it, even when you can’t afford it. You first assess your means.
As for MMD, no thought is spared before committing vast sums of money, even in the midst of such high poverty levels in the country. Conventions are held but candidates are declared winners well before the convention and whoever opposes, they are dealt a heavy blow…
Similarly, no thought is spared for other priority needs when going for unecessry by-elections when runners-up could easily take over any seats left vacant to save the nation’s finances.
SMART = S……… M……… Affordable R…….. T…………
Fill in the blanks my brother.
By the way, why are MMD cadres assaulting journalists with such impunity in the presence of police?
Much as i welcome the pact. I feel very strongly that the governing council must undergo the process of appreciating and understanding with empathy either party’s positives and negatives, accept their strengths and weaknesses and swallow their pride by addressing their fears and that of the ruling party and lastly but not of the most least of importance the governing council must be able to philosophically and politically be relevant to the electorate and the citizenry at large. Once this is attained, there will be less or insignificant squabbles for 2011 elections and the one zambia one nation zambian motto will rekindle. Am confident and not pessimistic because the governing council has ample time to face afformentined issues before tripartite elections in 2011. We are ready to…
LT you are evil , sadist. You are pessimist . You believe in Nyama soya and king snake .Why block my comments,on King snake and Nyama soya. yah strange than fiction
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That abduction was just a demo of what can happen if the so called sata chanced state house.this is the only reason i’d want sata to go to state house because we zambians have taken this democracy for granted.so i need sata to come and show us that after all this democracy once mishandled it will spell misery.i want him to come and reign terror like pol pot and nguyen.i know his cadres will reign supreme.at any police before a police officer records a statement he has to get permission from a vigilante because vigilantes will come back in police stations.all bus stops and markets will be PF zones where insults will be flying like prayers. Once in state house sata will come to realise that leading a country is something else thatn what he parrots so all the sweet talk of…
con’d. The sweet talk will come to and end because it will be time to feed the poor soulsand the money will not be there.so the ubwato people will feel cheated so they’ll to express there democratic right the zambian way.freedom of expression.free speech start condeming the mighty sata.that’s where the terror will come in.the cadres will have been handed the control of markets and stations and they will be having free money.so any descent or evil word against the mighty leader will attract a stream of insults or bodly harm.you go to police you will be caged for defaming the president.if you are an opposition activist just be on the lookout any time you can be abducted.i cant wait for sata to be presido
Inwe ba MUDIDI mulagambya. You want to suppress progressive ideas by peddling your tribal rhetoric advances. Let go and allow positive reasoning to prevail. UPND has accepted to work with PF vis versa. It has nothing to do with Tongas being used by Bembas. What I have come to learn my fellow bloggers is that Ba MUDIDI are the worst tribalists in this country. They take advantage of the imaginary friction that they think exist between Tongas and Bembas to advance their hold on power in this country as they know that if the two tribes come together KUYA BEBELE. MWAITAYA BA MMD. This time around NI JANZA MBELE and PA BWATO together to State house. Ba MUSIMBI we the Tongas have nothing to watch out for. We are safe.
# 26 kwanu-What responsibility is in the thuggery you are so passionate about to overrun Zambia? Bottomline your fragrance for an anarchical society is not only pathetic but shallow mind driven.With your obsession for dictorship and anarchic i’m left to to look in you if you’re even normal if not just j too alien to our Zambian values.
Here you are vainly belaboring to forfeit our national state to anarchical leadership at total variance to Zambian democratic and unitary values. Do you know that Sata was a member of the purged Mama Lenshina Sect movement that killed and forced people to drink urine? Do you know that until 1979 Sata was scared entering politics because during Chachacha struggles instead of serving Zambian interest, he signed up with the imperial Government of Lewensky as its informant? During the Southern Africa liberation he was still actively informing Smith on our national strategic targets which were ever boomed. Late Alick Nkhata was a victim of Sata conspiracies. This is why after independence; he was given a train shatter job in the UK when new Zambia was educating its potential leaders.
At 73 you cannot be a patriot or peace maker when you have never been one.RB is succeding uniting Zambians because naturally he has grown as a selfless patriot from Munali secondary school, Chachacha struggles to the UN fighting for Southern Africa. He was President of Namibia when Sata was too busy with the Lenshina cult forcing Zambians to drink urine or die.Sata has no record of building bridges but ever burning them.
Someone in this pact is “eating with both hands”.The sooner HH realises this and does” a runner” the better for our democracy. As politely put in one language, ” Kalulu is never left out of childrens’ stories”.True to the word pre 24/10/1946 he was there today he wants to be there, surely better brains have been born since to take charge the of political direction of our country and do it better.
“Not discussing presidential candidate for 2011”, eh? This is history repeating itself, remember FDD and UPND? And you think SATA is about to let go? And even if he does, that means we are certain to have HH as the next president. This is not a kingdom but a Republic and you have to realise that most “enlightened” Zambians will be of “age” by 2016 to run this wretched country. Need i say more…
The PF and UPND cannot discuss the presidential candidate for 2011 because they know that’s when things will fall apart. Talk of burying your head in the sand.
come 2011 zambia willl be the first country in history to have two presidents standing on one ticket
39 Senior Citizen greetings. Nice to read great material like “Do you know that Sata was a member of the purged Mama Lenshina Sect movement that killed and forced people to drink urine? Do you know that until 1979 Sata was scared entering politics because during Chachacha struggles instead of serving Zambian interest, he signed up with the imperial Government of Lewensky as its informant? During the Southern Africa liberation he was still actively informing Smith on our national strategic targets which were ever boomed. Late Alick Nkhata was a victim of Sata conspiracies. This is why after independence; he was given a train shatter job in the UK when new Zambia was educating its potential leaders.“, but what surprises me is that MMD has failed criminalising him.
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Such would make the Chief Justice not declare him as an official presidential candidate in any election. However, I believe the Finish Sata Project will do this job nicely. Sad enough for MMD, president HH or any other person from the PACT is on hand to take the presidential candidacy in 2011 and this is why their is a lot of panic in the MMD.
While I truely support your “At 73 you cannot be a patriot or peace maker when you have never been one”, I find it sad that MMD had an opportunity of engaging president HH as your presidential candidate in last year’s election in a combined force move of MMD-UPND, but now you are crying foul that he is making progress with the PF.
Impressive enough, the wind of change through unity of tribes has come to Zambia…
Senior Citizen(MMD CADRE) do you work? You seem to be the ever present on this blog. Give the pact a chance. By the way you brag about your conventions whitch normally are undemocratic. What happened to the post of vice presidency in your party?
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Someone said, the GREATEST MISTAKE is not to make a mistake or several mistakes in this life, but soley to fail to learn from one’s mistakes and do better.
In light of this, time to correct the Undereducate’s your “At 73 you cannot be a patriot or peace maker when you have never been one” past problem has come, by him supporting people who are genuinely sacrificing their hard earned money like president HH and others for the betterment of all Zambians.
PF-UPND PACTyaboola (has come) for real change to drive mother Zambia is a socio-economic direction development path.
“One Zambia, One Nation” in unison as 71 tribes to bring in a new government in 2011.
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a tree’s branch -…
give them chance… it seems they have a good pact after all
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With this working PACT arrangement, I am now considering to be on hand to write the Space Programme Policy for mother Zambia.
Have a blessed day you all and take careful care always.
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a tree’s branch – one day).
at 73 you can stil change with the grace of the Lord, it is NEVER too late, amumuleke mudaala yawe. mwabanzi bana
I agree with Senior citizen Sata has nothing to offer this country. Can anyone tell me anything Sata has done in terms of charity? RB has done all that! Even VJ who some good for nothing Chaps want to accuse of Rigging election has done some donations to charity not Sata. He gets things in the name of his PF and keeps it to himself what a selfish old man he is. I do not know what HH has seen in him. The young man may just spoil his political career by associating with a hooligan like Sata otherwise he has the potential.
52 Mthangatambeta greetings. On your “He gets things in the name of his PF and keeps it to himself what a selfish old man he is” this is true following records of even the funeral of H. Mtonga, former MP for Kanyama.
However, on your “I do not know what HH has seen in him. The young man may just spoil his political career by associating with a hooligan like Sata otherwise he has the potential.” The good Lord God is recorded saying 18 ¶ Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” in Isaiah 1:18 of the Holy scriptures. This is why Jesus died for you and me.
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52 Mthangatambeta, thus “The young man may just spoil his political career by associating with a hooligan like Sata otherwise he has the potential” has the right to do as he wishes for the benefit of all Zambians. Tribalism is coming to an end in PF while the MMD is panicking to destroy the well thought out and meaning PF-UPND PACT.
Jesus Christ came to seek and save the lost and not those we were self righteous.
So, let us let the two strongest opposition political parties to do as their members with lead from their top leadership want for Zambia. As for those that are aggrieved, please I respect your position and keep away from the PF-UPND PACT. Some of us want Zambia to develop as One United Nation and so don’t delay our progress by attacking our initiatives.
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Why is MMD crying foul now that president HH and the mighty UPND has chosen to work with PF. Are they not the ones who failed to take his well meant advice when he visited State House just a few days ago?
During the election time, the MMD leadership, at campaign meetings, were busy saying HH went to see President Rupiah B. Banda ans asked for a position in GRZ. They said tey could not give him one or so.
If they failed him, why are they jealous that he has put his chances elsewhere were things are working for him.
What a group of individuals who do not think before they act.
If the MMD think that they are clear, let them consider my new signature below.
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a tree’s branch – one day)
Why sata is so quite on this pac!!!! it seems these guys have already discussed who will be the presidential candidate…AS you PF is sata and sata is pf.. he has no other people to consult when he wants to make decisions. it is also be made clear that elebtion all about money. from what i observed it seems my old man sata is dry in his pocket..this happened because of 2008…and also chiluba stopped supporting him financially. sata would have appointed one of his MPs to take over but it will not look well from other observers,… this is the reason to call HH. it is already discussed who is going to be a presidential candidate…!!!!!!!!
56 KIZITO. greetings. On your “Why sata is so quite on this pac!!!! it seems these guys have already discussed who will be the presidential candidate…AS you PF is sata and sata is pf.. he has no other people to consult when he wants to make decisions.” Have you seen the confidence spoken data by the UPND Team president HH on Zambianwatchdog where he said that the “PACT will Succeed”?
When the whole lot of president HH issues such remarks over the PF-UPND PACT, this should show you that a lot of all contentious issues like the presidential candidate have been sorted out already. The move of not announcing this now is to allow both party members to take this PACT seriously at a late stage stage without being emotional. Thus PF may not have a convention but UPND in 2011.
This will then make it easy for the Undereducate to ask the whole Nation to cast their votes for the might UPND then president.
All those who are emotional will have to make sober decisions. While the MMD will be totally confused about how to chage thier stategy. The MMD might ask for delaying the elections, but Zambia should disagree so that not tampering of election material will be allowed.
Enjoy the drama and let those with ears hear.
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Sokwe kaamuleya katabi (The monkey failed to grasp a tree’s branch – one day)
THOSEV WHO ARE TALKING ILL OF THE PACT ARE JUST AFRAID THAT IF IT WORKS THAT WILL SPELL THE END OF MMD. WHY TALK ABOUT IT IF ITS AN EXCERCISE IN FUTILITY? LET PF AND UPND FAIL BY THEMSELVES WITHOUT YOUR INVOLVEMENT. WE WHO ARE GENUINE ZAMBIANS WISH THIS PACT TO WORK SO THAT WE ARE LIBERATED FROM THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS OF MMD. GO UNITED PATRITIC FRONT FOR NATIONAL UNITY GO UPFNU WE SHALL SUPPORT. MY PRAYER IS YOU AGREE UNANIMOUSLY ON WHO TO FIELD WITHOUT LOOKING AT REGIONS WHERE WE COME FROM. BA MMD LEAVE PF/UPND ALONE ITS NOT YOUR BUSINESS.
Deja Vu….i agree with u,its their business.But IF they come to power based solely on the principle of removing MMD…then what after that? Sata has his pipo waiting in the wwings…they wont wait forever to also offload their katundu at statehouse…This alliance can only have some hope of working if they both disband and form ONE PARTY.,go to a party convention and elect leaders…..obviously i see HH running away from the function screaming BLUE MURDER.
N0. 59 you are very right that MMD are very afraid of what would happen should the Pact succeed. I do not know why they are afraid however because the Pact will not succeed. All that Sata is doing is to lure HH in until he is in too deep. Soon HH will find himself; up the creek, out of the bwato, out of his depth and without a life jacket. The Cobra knows exactly when to strike.
#60 and 61 Thanks. You known that even the MMD is no longer a party but just a conveyance for one to make easy money. I tell you once MMD is out of power it will have not a single person as member. It will die and nobody will ever want to be associated with it.