United Party for National Development UPND President Hakainde Hichilema has said that the the rejection of the constitution amendment bill is clear confirmation that the MMD should be hounded out of government.
Mr. Hichilema said that it is painful that trillions of kwacha were spent on the National Constitutional Conference at the expense of millions of suffering Zambians.
Mr. Hichilema whose MPs participated in the NCC has noted that the failure by the MMD to give Zambians a constitution that they have always desired is an indication that current government is tired.
He added that Zambians should use this year’s election as a verdict on the MMD’s failure on the constitution making process.
The UPND leader further added that there was great need for Zambians to retire the MMD from government as the country goes to the polls this year.
Mr. Hichilema has further disputed assertion by government that the UPND members of parliament were eating with both hands by attending the NCC and later rejecting the product of the NCC to which they were part.
He further went on to defend his members of parliament by stating that they attended the NCC to fight for the wishes of the Zambian people.
Mr Hichilema said that had the UPND not attended the NCC, Zambians would have been given a raw deal on the constitution making process.
He said his party is dismayed at the unwarranted attacks by Chief Government spokesperson Ronnie Shikapwasha when it is absolutely clear that the collapse of the Constitution bill is as a direct result of the MMD’s arrogance, disjointedness, greed and insatiable appetite to remain in power.
And Get Involved Zambia executive director Father Frank Bwalya has described as a triumph for the people of Zambia in the constitution making process, the rejection of the constitutional bill by parliament yesterday.
Father Bwalya says finally the voice of the people has been heard after the many pleas his organization and other stakeholders made. He said that the MMD should now work and realize that people of Zambia carry the loudest voice.
Meanwhile, Southern African Center for Constructive Resolution of Disputes SACCORD has congratulated opposition members of parliament for rejecting a government engineered constitutional making process.
SACCORD information officer Obby Chibuluma said it iwas gratifying to note that members of parliament from the opposition political parties responded positively to the people’s aspiration on the constitution.
And Vice President George Kunda said that the inability by parliament to enact a new constitution has denied Zambians an opportunity to come up with an enhanced legal framework. Mr Kunda blamed the UPND for the failure of the Bill, accusing the UPND of betraying the Zambian people.
Mr.Kunda said that the UPND members of parliament have betrayed the Zambian people especially that they participated in the National Constitutional Conference. The Vice President has further stated that the MMD is however comfortable to participate in the forthcoming elections using the old constitution.
QFM
Zoona ba michita. This infact must save as a workup call for MMD. Lesa talala.
Mr Banda Please fire Kunda or he must Please just resign nombaline.
Foolish Kunda, you ve been advising RB falsely
“Mr. Hichilema whose MPs participated in the NCC has noted that the failure by the MMD to give Zambians a constitution that they have always desired is an indication that current government is tired.”
Is HH being truthful here? All along he supported the NNC and today he has done a Kachepa360.Iam now doubting the dude.
HH Thats the most sensible thing you have ever said ! I think its time for you to shed off your daipers and sh***t with the big boys
…here goes another “Drama queen”
“Mr Hichilema says had the UPND not attended the NCC, Zambians would have been given a raw deal on the constitution making process.”
I really wonder and shudder at how HH sometimes comes out really. coz i thot the reason this draft consititution has been rejected is bcoz it was a raw deal for the Zambians who cried for years for a people driven constitution…??
MMD 0: PF 4
UPND took part in the NCC. You cannot disconnect yourselves from the document. You took part in it, ate allowances and now you want to play innocent? I thought you were better than that UPND.
SACCORD is the same organization pushing for PVT and once again they are showing their true colors (that they are not impartial). SACCORD is busy taking part in partisan politics and yet they want to conduct PVT?? Wow
I don’t think HH is being honest with himself.His MPs have clearly betrayed Zambians
Kunda you are a pathetic excuse of a vice President
#3 You should understand that some of the bills brought to NCC where not in favour of MMD were not adopted because many NCC delegates were actually working for MMD..hence UPND MPs were few and didnt carry the majority at the NCC sitting…The MMD had a larger voice during the whole process of making the NCC.
Young man HH or under 5 as they call you, let me break it down for you. First of all talk is cheap. You were pround to have sent your MPs to the NCC and we applaud that. You rejected the 50+1 clause and we accept that. It is democracy. You sponsored the degree clause for the head of state and that motion was defeated. Again it is democracy we respect that.
Now here is the punch line, everything and I mean everything that was in this constitution motion was supported by your MPs at the NCC and endorsed by you. And how could you today be proud of the defeat of a motion that had clauses you supported?
Stop politicking, if indeed you want to preach about wasted money, ASK YOUR MPS REFUND ALL THEIR NCC ALLOWANCES TODAY. Talk is cheap. Show us the MONEY!!!
Off topic, Bushe ka Kunda, what’s wrong with his lips? No wonder this chap has messed up big time, he seems to lie a lot, utu milomo.
HH SHUD LEARN FROM PIPO LIKE SATA WHO ARE ABLE TO READ THE SITUATION AHEAD OF TIME. THATS POLITICS THAN USING PRETENCE…..U CHEWED ZAMBIAN TAX PAYERS MONEY AND NOW YOU WANT TO COME OUT CLEAN….IS THIS POLITICS…THIS IS GREEDNESS. IF SUMTHING IS WRONG IS WRONG. U SHUD HAVE HAD THIS POSITION FROM THE WORD GO. AM SURE THE GVT WUD HAVE STOPPED THE ALL PROCESS.
#9
Then where are the primciples of UPND? If they knew from he word go that they are in minority,why did’nt they protest but to the contrary were all supportive and cool.Here,even if I don’t like the 90 days miracles,I think PF hooligans have come out smart cos from the word go,they preached doom.
Kunda should be mourni9ng in his bedroom rite now..u lose your job..you misled MMD..viva opposition..!
Yaaaa dual citizenship yaluka zooona.
HH gave MMD the benefit of the doubt by attending the NCC. He didnt want them to have a free hand. Most bloggers do not understand what would have happened. HH you are the only sensible polititian in Zambia. Most Zambian electorate just go with the wind. If PF form government next year Zambians will cry, watch this space.
Ifwe mu PF nizeeeee. Mulemona this year.
#3 Sharp Shooter – In fact it is the same MPs who sponsored the degree clause so that HH would have it easy as PACT President. This chap is a digrace
@LADY GAGA, youa re right , MMD and Kunda has been f**8ed Badly and Kunda if he still remains a normal man should resign for driving a process through hook and crook and enriching a lot of selfish chancers of our hard earned tax payers money when he knew that credible people had shunned this process like the catholics, PF, and many other credible ngo’s. now how much money and time has he wasted in the drain for this process that has yielded zero results…?? from that money wasted how many hospitals and schools and medicines would have been built and bought respecitvely and how many lives would have been saved?
#16, You seem to have a warped mind. Your thinking leaves much to be desired. Just stay with your U-5 and a tonga tribe party and leave us in PF alone. Why mention PF in this? Was PF there when your UPND MP’s were busy chewing tax payers money? Mulimuchibe.
# 7 & 10 Mr. Capitalist and MMD Chief Bootlicker well said. H.H is trying to fool us. He sent his MP’s to prevent SATA from standing as president through degree clause but failed. He is one bitter amateur politician who is showing his true colors. Why cant he ask his MP’s to refund us the allowances they have received? He is very dangerous to our peace as a country. Thats why he is not fit to be president. Let him start from lower ranks. UPND FOLLOWERS JUST SUPPORT HIM FOR MONEY.
UPND and HH should apologise to the Zambians for the cash they have chewed from this futile process which senior citizens and credible people rejected but opportunists like them went ahead to come up with something to block sata…..too late ba UPND and HH. you are no better than MMD and its cronies. youa re even the first to condemn this process……..shame ba UPND/HH.
# 11 CIA Zedian.Taumfwa mambala. Ati -utumilomo. l cant stop laughing …..
Truly its not fair , UPND had contributed to the making of the constitutional framework and most of the submissions were in support of the ellusive MMD govt . Given the huge amounts of money spent on this funny document …. they ar a useless party with a useless president whose intentions is only known by their tribe
All in all a country has and will have to run on the bad Sata’s 1996 constitution. Elections will be held on the 1996 Sata constitution, while going forward Governance will be on the bad Sata 1996 constitution, public policies on the bad Sata 1996 constitution while Government social responsibilities on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. This will be so until such a time all betrayers of public interest in PF have been dis-elected and are left moribund with their Sata in the dustbin of history.
To prove that the bad 1996 constitution Sata is passionate about actually its his own, ZANIS will run a video of 1996 Sata/Nawakwi dance on Parliamentary floor.
The bad 1996 Sata constitution is where the devil incarnate himself and Nawakwi sponsored it and went wiggling on the floor of parliamentary chambers that Kaunda alala alala, Kaunda alala alala, Dipak Patel Alala alala, Simon Zukas alalal alala.
There is no way a normal person would condition his party vote on the august house including Homosexual rights in the constitution and knocking off the the preamble of Christian nation. Beyond his Satanic covenant with hell under demonic torment, perversion has just gone to the head of Sata. Surely are gay rights important than the
-hope for proportional representation.
– hope of increasing the number of constituencies citizens asked for
-RB’s endorsed clause of Zambians in the Diaspora earning dual citizenship
– reinforcement of the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation.
-the 50+1 clause?
#15 Dobo, ya ba that is my sentiment too. I really didn’t care about the rest of the crap, but just wanted Dual Citizenship. At least we could have enacted some of the good things in the document and we were going to change the other bad stuff later.
I think HH and his MPs have screwed me on Dual Citizen. They had the numbers to pass this and this would have justified the allowances they chewed, now ..manje kaya mwe.
We have been ripped off big time, while the delegates laugh all the way to the bank. This has been the mother of all scams for Zambia indeed. It makes Kapoko and Bulaya’s scams look like child play. Stealing our money in our face in day light, by sitting and doing nothing. No work and getting paid.
Ati utumilomo ba GK. “dck yaba boss bakwe ilapitapo limbi pa tumilomo twakwe, balamusova”
Well this sounds good for both MMD and UPND for the following reasons
1.If the 50%+1 vote had gone through, the MMD and PF would have been the contenders in the 2nd round leaving UPND leaking its wounds.
2. During the 2nd round most people would have gone for PF thus making MMD a looser.With this development, MMD will sail through with a very simple majority (minority in terms of votes cast against them). PF miscalculated on this one as it has benefited the two “good” candidates for now.
people here shud understand that UPND participated most of the things were rejected and only thoz favourin MMD were put in the bill to parliament!!!! if UPND had voted for it evey stupid ***** wud have siad UPND is supportin RB!!! HH ni zii wabadyala baimbwa ZAMBIA FORWARD VIVA HH
Since when did gay rights take precedence in our national interest for Sata to put a condition that its omission means a reversion to his bad 1996 constitution?
Even if you have sold your party to gays and turned it into a gays party, national interests ought to take precedence. Now elections will be held on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. All disputes thereof will be handled on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. Shame on Sata and PF.
MMD and UPND, you have stolen trillion of Kwachas from the poor Zambian. Tumumfwa ne soni ba ma mbala.
The MMD has failed to push it’s selfish agenda through. All that bulldozing for nothing. What a wated effort. Kunda must be exhausted
In countries where leaders have morals Kunda should have rssigned by now or just fired it is a sign that people has no confidence in him and his government but in zambia Kunda still needs a job shame on you kunda for spending so much when zambian are suffering.kuya bebele
its really surprises how the opposition thinks this is a win for them. dont they realise they have been conned? this means this election will be absed on a simple majority and MMD always wins in such. this means even RB gets one more vote than sata he becomes president. how stupid and dull can these so called leaders be? without a change of constitution its very difficult to beat MMd and even if you win more parliament seats RB will just appoint opposition as ministers and also nominate 8 MP’s. the new constitution was going to increase no. of mp’s and also delimit constituencies. now all is gone in the wind. what dimwits we have in leadership. MMD have dribbled you guys and you are all celebrating not knowing wats gonna hit you come october 2011
Vice President GEORGE KUNDA says the constitution of Zambia bill and Constitution of Zambia amendment bill can ONLY be brought back before parliament after six months.
Just since when did gay rights take precedence in our national interest for Sata to put a condition that its omission means a reversion to his bad 1996 constitution?
Even if you have sold your party to gays and turned it into a gays party, national interests ought to take precedence. Now elections will be held on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. All disputes thereof will be handled on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. Shame on Sata and PF.
HH, now wait and see if ZNBC cameraz, the Daily Mail and Timez of Zambia will cover you this time around.
this opens the way for HH to be appointed Vice President after the elections as constitution allows for that. PF are really very dull strategists. if they had passed this bill MMD would have been in trouble because they would have to organise a referendum for 50+1 and also some powers of President would have been reduced and there would ahve been more transparency in electoral process. buffoons just buffoons all these PF kaponya’s
Senior Citizen you remeber your worst nightmare pal? well this is no dream
Bushe ba Senior Citizen are you okay? You sound like a rabid dog.
Say what you may about the Catholic church and others who refused to participate in the NCC, they had foresight, if they had participated and the final document was flawed as they had predicted, Kunda et al could used to claim that “they were eating with both hands”, too.
This ka tribal under5 boy should be taught a lesson at the ballot.
I’m back and I’m near your neighborhood. Still pushing the MMD agenda forward? Yesterday must have been a blow. Anyway I hope all MMD bootlickers are going to start realizing that forcing matters doesn’t pay. The people have spoken. No selfish constitution
Senior citizen..when did Sata say the new constitution should include gay rights..we are not kids or dull..so don’t insult our intelligence ..please
I tired MMD indeed. They have always thought they could have it their way things are slowly changing let this be a lesson to them whether they retain power or not after the election. Long live BRE, to hell with MMD and it’s commander in chief
Dear Movement For Multi-Party ‘Democracy’,
Your foundations were paved with good intentions (Just like the road to Hell is), You have tried to please me with your style of Leadership… From clever usage of words, to feeble words of greatness and legacy and now am not sure of who you have become…Your founding Father has turned into a cadre (To be continued as a note later)…With Love, Very concerned Citizen
The old snake im.becile should also be taught a lesson at the ballot.
Senior Citizen
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!! PF exercised their freedom of choice and never participated in daylight robbery so go hung yourself. Just prepare yourselves you’ll need to go and explain to suffering Zambians as to what you did with the k1.9 trillion. You must be mad to expect people who never made any input in your Kunda draft constitution to rubber stamp it. You can lie all you want you bastard but remember not all Zambians are s.t.u.p.i.d.
#38 senior citizen is cheap bragadoccio
VIVA BA UPND GET OUT PF ,YOU WNT TO PUT YOUR GAY ISSUE IN OUR CONSTITUTION.WE BIND UPND NO MATTER WHAT,WE CN NOT COM TO YOUR STINKING PF GAYS.VIVA HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA………………THE CONSTITUTIONS PASSING FAILURE IS WORSE THAN KUNDAs BOLLZ BEING SQUEEZED BY MAXWELL MUTUTWA!!
All of you PF carders blaming UPND/HH over this botched constitution process are so myopic and fail to appreciate democracy. Tell me you PF carders were you going to be happy had UPND mps voted for this.Dont you realise that this incomplete so called draft constitution would have gone through.When talk about principles in UPND we mean just that.UPND debates AT NCC are well known and what the party stands for is well known unlike the PF. Most important closes were rejected by mmd and their followers during debates at NCC simply because status quo favors them. I can assure yopu that after this debacle,the country will have a very good constitution because of UPND MPs intelligency and standing firm on principle. And please dont blame the mps for allowance taken as they were entitled to them.
#41 Real Change Now 2011
You must deaf and daft, don’t talk about stuff you don’t know. PF MPs walked out because important clauses where left out and 50+1 referendum was only going done next year after the elections, so what are you talking about.
If you’ve been looking for “dishononourable MPs and an unexcellent President”follow the zambian politics.
HH this is time to do serious campaigning not ritizing others. You be stuck in position 5 instead of moving forward.
Young blood raise and kick these disfunctional heads out of office
This constitoooootion (as red-lips Kunda likes to call it) was destined to fail because the process was flawed and embedded with selfish motives from various individuals, not least the NCC process. Thank God it has come to this and all NCC members should hang their heads in shame. I know that pigs first have to learn to fly before these time-wasters/crooks have to re-pay our money. The blame, however needs to be spread from Levy Mwanawasa to the little unknown member of NCC.
Well, I for one will support HH on this matter. His MPs indeed sat on the NCC but all their pleas such as the degree requirement, 50%+1, presidential running mate system, removal of the silly Christian nation preamble etc were shot down by no other than George Kunda and his boss Kanishamezi Kanjoko fa Katendele Banda. To thereafter expect them to support such a flawed outcome is going too far. Banda should stick to his PF Luapulan lumpens who will eat excrement if he commands them to do so, Tonga burus just wont.
Senior Shame on u, you will be lying even in your grave
I meant senior citizen, shame on you. You will be lying even in your grave. We have read the verbatim of the interview where your master tried to blackmail Sata on the Hormo issues, we can’t see anything like that. We’ll never be fooled my friend. Oh, u are not even my friend
WHO IS A MODERN THIEF? IT’S THE EDUCATED, HH’S UPND PARTICIPATED IN THE DAY LIGHT CRIME OF STEALING FROM POOR CITIZENS OF THIS BELOVED COUNTRY OF OURS ZAMBIAN, BUT ALAS THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT SATA AND HIS PF HAVE BEEN VINDICATED FOR HE FORE SAW THIS EVIL PLOT.
WE ARE ENJOYING THE WITCH HUNTING BETWEEN UPND AND MMD WHO CHEWED OUR MONEY AT NCC. KUNDA AND RUPIAH SHOULD LEARN TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND STOP THINKING THAT THEY MORE INTELLIGENT THAN OTHERS.IF PEOPLE ARE BOYCOTING YOUR NCC,YOU LISTEN TO THEIR VIEWS ALSO.
IFWE NI PABWATO, NA MUDALA WATHU SATA. VIVA WIND OF CHANGE COME 2011
Sata has been vindicated indeed.
This is a solid graund to start the middle east revolution, shame on MMD and under five minions. The should couragious enough and refund the zambia before they lounch their campaigns over the weekend.
this is a victory for MMD and if you PF kaponya’s cannot see this then you are in for a very rude shock come oct 2011. MMD/UPND has dribbled all of you. so now HH will make sure he campaigns strongly against PF sata so that once RB is in state house he will be appointed veep. also note that this means this election will be done on simple majority so even a difference of one vote puts RB in state house. also oct 2011 UPNd will have more MP’s than sata since sata basically has lost all of luapula to mmd and now even CB is beginning to shake with 2 MP’s (simama, kalulushi/chella, wusakile) saying RB and MMD will win in CB. Just wait until they pay them their gratuity. also with no new constitution its up to RB to call election and he does not need to tell anyone!!! hahaahahaa, PF are…
PF are BIG BUFFOONS. KA CHILUBA HAS DRIBBLED YOU AGAIN. NOW YOU HAVE NO BASIS TO ADVOCATE FOR A NEW CONSTITUTION. SATA IS ALL ALONE!! 80% of his MP’s are moving base as soon as parliament is dissolved and they get their money. who wants to campaign for a well known homo??
Mr Nyangu said Mr Chella and Mr Simama are not the only PF MPs who have been calling on Zambians to vote for President Banda.
“So many MPs from PF have been expressing solidarity with the MMD. They have joined the MMD quietly and are campaigning for President Banda. This means MMD is a winning party and we are winning the 2011 elections,” He said.
Mr Nyangu also urged MPs from other political parties to join the MMD to contribute to the country’s development.
With or without the draft constitution, Iam still making more kwacha this year than last year.The environment is still enabling!!!
Resignations should be sought…
Kunda: ”Mr. Kunda said the opposition UPND wanted government to include the 50 percent plus one vote, hoping for a possibility of forming a coalition government with the MMD.
He said that the MMD realized that the 50 percent plus One vote for a presidential candidate was referred to the referendum and that the issue of forming a coalition government with the UPND could not be accommodated as it required further consultations between the two parties.”
Chizyuka: ”Over K1.3 Trillion was spent on the NCC exercise in allowances and other logistics for the 495 members that included UPND MPs and half of PF MPs, ‘rebels’. UPND Member of Parliament for Namwala Major Robbie Chizyuka has demanded that all UPND MPs who attended the NCC deliberations in the last two years and were paid…
Chizyuka: ”were paid sitting and travel allowances should refund the Government. Chizyuka said it was straight theft amounting to obtaining money by false pretence from the poor Zambian tax payers for a job they declined to deliver, when it mattered most.
He accused the MPs of caring more about their pockets and stomachs at the expense of the suffering poor masses.
This is really not a win. Most of the things that matter were not included in the new constitution, save for dual citizenship. Too bad dual citizenship will not be a reality anytime some.
But HH chipuba sana. Now I know why Sata couldn’t work with him. I used to think he is intelligent but on this one, Sata looks smarter .I respect people who even when they are wrong they stand for their wrongs. Its called “Having a backbone”. Honestly if you look at that bill, yes there were clauses like the 50% +1 which were removed, but any right thinking person even in the opposition would have voted for that bill to pass so that afterwords we can start fighting for the clauses that where left out to be passed later rather than throw to the gutters a process worth billions of Kwacha. And for what? Just because it was MMD driven? Not that it was a bad bill? Government has wasted billions of your hard earned taxes and u happy? Shame.
On “United Party for National Development UPND President Hakainde Hichilema has said that the the rejection of the constitution amendment bill is clear confirmation that the MMD should be hounded out of government” well done Mr UPND-APC PACT presidential candidate HH. I wish you and your UPND Team all the very best in the 2011 elections.
Please, make sure you use this failure by MMD to pass the Constitution Bill forward to your advantage.
Also, it appears the mighty UPND’s HH has cut PF supporter George Mpombo to size by announcing that Mpombo seems to have bounced two further cheques. I await more information on this and I hope this time the character Mpombo will be arrested and put in prison for failing to be remorseful for his past behaviour.
Be blest all.
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Matt…
Ka HH or under five STOP cheap political propaganda, you supported the huge waste of tax payers money by allowing your MPs to participate in this all process from the word go, and you said it was democratically process for any zambian to participate and yet you knew that the all process was actually political strategy spear headed by MMD and it was welcomed by you and your MPs as a bussiness to make big allowances.The big man Sata king cobra had a foresight on this, he rejected this political stance by MMD at all coasts and you called him names and he ended up losing some MPs. Now he Sata has won on this one, viva Sata. Stop lying HH just show leadership young man.
My party is busy campaigning for legalisation of homosexual instead of voting for a new constitution. The only reason Iam sticking around is because we the HOMOs are treated with ALOT OF RESPECT.
To be hopeful in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness.
What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places — and there are so many — where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act, and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction.
And if we do act, in however small a way, we don’t have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that…
… is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.
Congrats PF for your consistence towards this matter!!!!
VOte Pabwatooo>>>>
All those who attended should pay back. Sata has been vindicated. Check out
Dora Siliya’s wall on facebook, she’s been mourning since yestaday. UPEE END
Sponsored the degree clause to fix Sata. I Can’t wait to see Sata in state house.
Meanwhile, PF vice-leader Guy Scott has been suspended from Parliament for the next 30 days in accordance with the provision of the Cap 12 of the laws of Zambia for publishing Parliament proceedings in the POST Fudge (PF) magazine. Can any PF cadre inform me what the experience of Hon Dr Guy SCOT has helped him learn from the time he started serving in our parliament. Is such bad experience of Dr Guy SCOT a PF-leader membership pre-requisite since it appears PF leader serpent Sata MC has equally not learnt anything useful in Parliament ever since he was an MP as well as a GRZ Administration Minister under MMD of 1991 to 2001.
With this sad background of the PF leadership’s mis-experience, I still believe that HH of the UPND has shown the rare maturity needed in a President.
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Matt…
ATTENTION ALL HATERS. HH had advised UPND mps not to participate because MMD meant to suit themselves at the end.But UPND MPS democratically they convinced him that ” Mr UPND President if we stay outside MMD will be like monkeys put in an unguarded field.If they agree to total NCC Mung’omba draft as demanded by Zambians Mr President we will not let you and the Zambians down ,we can assure you that WE SHALL USE OUR LAST BULLET to silence the deceiving MMD”
HH and UPND mps well done for standing up to the HALLMARK OF UPND ” Principled and foresighted leadership.Now descend to your CONSTITUENTS TO DELIVER FOR YOUR PRINCIPLED HH AND UPND. Dont listen and be swayed by yellow journalism and corrupt way of recruiting voers.
VIVA HH. THE SURE WAY FORWARD.
Unlike the patriotic prehistoric snake and its lizard followers.the participation of upnd has provided a means by which the zambian people have been able to reject the constitution due to its short comings.Had they not participated this constitution issue would have gone through.Now Where are the lizards saying hh is campaigning for mmd.Does his excellence seem like an mmd puppet to you.
#83 just shut up and contribute positively to the top at hand and leave Scot alone atase…UPND failed and your HH has washed his hands as if he is not the one who sent is troops (MPs) at NCC…..Viva Sata viva PF
Mr Sata has called for dissolution of Parliament. NO NO NO Sir, there is no backdoor to State House, just wait for the elections which are around the corner. And while you are waiting patiently take time to reconsider your statement
“The laws of Zambia recognize(s) gay rights, the laws of Zambia recognize(s) lesbian rights …..the laws are there, what is needed is to implement the laws”.
We have noted and we are watching no matter how much you try to make us forget.
UPND don’t act the angel, this action has shown that you are probably just as bad as PF if not worse. Birds of a feather flock together in a Pact. The Pact only broke up because the two parties failed to outwit each other, not for the reasons given by UPND, this is very clear now.
1 down and the big one to go in the elections. If we go with 1996 constitution then RB dont qualify to stand as president since he was not born in Zambia.
Dochi Kubeba ninshi akuchita HH kanshi? I hv been following ur continous negative comments on the young billionaire, no debts either locallly or in Taiwan. Democracy is all about choice. No matter what you say about the young man who has worked hard for his money, its the other 8+ or so million eligeable Zambian who will decide who they think will better lead our beautiful country, come election day. Lets be reasonable.
It is time for Alabee to look for another veep.
#39 senior citizen is not any different from likes of chanda chimba and lifwekelo and all those lumpens workin as lupia ‘s vuvuzelaz. The chap is just a cheap BRAGADDOCIO
The zambian people have been betrayed by those greedy UPND MPs who received hefty allowances then at the end of it all they vote against the bill.Those MPs must be principled.But as usual poverty dictates.Shame on them.Some wont come back to parliament after this years elections and we shall meet them in our streets.
#87: leave gays alone. South Africa and Botswana have gay rights and these are the flagship nations of africa! Unless of course you are scared of your gayness? Adults are free to do the hell they want behind closed doors!
Goerge Kunda might be ill or well, but it has nothing to do with gays. Wake up and let people be what they want to be!!!
But Mr UPND President why didnt you and your MPs give your opinion during all the NCC sittings.I bet you Zambians the problem with Tongas they take things very personal and let me tell the UPND fellows this country will take long to be ruled by a Tonga.
UPND MPs benefitted from the sitting allowances and all that crap that came with the NCC. Today HH distances himself from the mess because he has realized the ballots are around the corner. Cheap Zambian politics of opportunism here. The guys would do anything to gain power or hang on to it. Where is our money? Patients were sleeping on the floor at UTH while this NCC crap was happening. Expensive microphones brought in at the expense of poor Zambians! Shame!
# 90 why pick on Donchi, when the are other bloggers who always say bad things about Sata. Why dont you ask them why they hate Sata. Donchi is just expressing his opinion, leave him be
that is why we are telling you SATA and HH that u cant win wen u are alone even if u are calling yourself popular parties.you can see that MMD is protected even from speak.you broke the pact like *****s thinking to go alone.shame no one will sit in state house PACT would be better for u.
Some bloggers are so dull. This is so simple to understand. Why should you have questions?
All said and done. Sata and the Church were right to boycott NCC! Billions wasted and the document stays in the archives. What a shame to RB/MMD and all the NCC plunderers! Kunda as Government Leader in the House of Parliament and VJ the Parliamentary Chief Whip could have just humbly quit their jobs. But .alas, they have not quit! Power is so sweet to them that they still want to continue eating with their both hands!
Dual Citizenship maiweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Now we shall never go back home just bicoz of baphicolor ukuitemwa, everyone just thinks about how he or she will get and not the future of the country Rubbish
Dear bloggers,tell me something,Did any one see and actually go through the white paper?Did you contribute to the commission that went around the country?Were the views in the white paper the actual views presented by the public and lastly who were the majority at the NCC,UPND MPs/MMD MP’s.
If any of you bloggers can answer these questions honestly then you will stop blaming HH for the failure o the MMD.Stop the blame game and wake up.
Naikaba, Viva PF Viva Hon MC SATA what a sweet victory!!!.All MP’s who participated in NCC must refund back the money. I knew Movement for Mad Dogs will not succeed. Nipa bwato fye we are about to cross the other side. Lelo Nyama soya and george kunda at least cabbage won’t testify when it comes to account for NCC money wasted
I dont understand why the issue of allowances is coming in. Does it mean that all those that got allowances should have for voted for the enactment of the new constitution? That is bribery or corruption ba Shikapwasha.Allowance or no allowance UPND MPs have provided the checks and balances
So PF shot down the dual citizenship. UPND turned their backs on the Proportional Representation clause that would have given women, youth and disabled more representation in Parliament. PF conspired with UPND against the rural people who do not get effective representation due to the large size of the constituencies. UUPND abstained from giving the Zambians their demands for a set election date. So what has been achieved by PF and UPND?
Ka Kunda, ukutemwasha saana kulimonesha ta ati George wa malango. Today all his evil scheming machinations to ej’acu.late his HIV infested spermatozoa on our constitution have failed, the spermatozoa has landed on solid rock and dried our instantly. Had they landed on fertile Zambian soil, we would by now be infested and infected by this diseased leper’s incurable ailment. Hallelujah be to jah!
Since NCC is now dead in Parliament, should NCC members return all sitting allowance money they received during sessions?
The worst scam Zambia has ever witnessed. UPND stop bragging around with your stupid education. Who told you that there is direct correlation between wisdom and formal education. After all most of your MPs are just first degree holders. ADMIT THAT YOU WENT INTO CRC IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH PERSONAL POVERTY ALLEVIATION.
If the opposition unites and put aside personal difference, we can kick out kanitundila and red-lip this year.
Mututwa is very annoid with me over the killings I authorised in Mongu and Mazabuka and he wants to squeeze my boooozz. I will not go to Mongu.
the intellectuals are people who still big time nowadays than a kaponya viva pf
**==**==if the guys had voted in favour of the bill u would still say they have supported MMD driven constitution. Guys lets not blame TONGAS even MAZOKA you liked was TONGA lets try to be realistic when it come to national matters.
I think H.H has some problem with his MIND. How can he send hi MPs to be part and parcel of the NCC chew te allowances and at last say they do not support this ,whilst even from the very begining they knew it all? Young men of nowadays are preoccupied with self enrichment.He was one of the men in line with privatization we are poor now but he talks alot about economics and so on and so forth.MPs and NCC plus plus.H.H is a bad seed and Kunda s right on this one . We might not like MMD but for this one fye,,,,the UPND have shown us who they really are.
All UPND MP’s that participated in the NCC should return all their allowances, if they truly represent the interest of the Zambian people. How anyone can justify the UPND MP’s is just beyond me. Now I’m beginning to understand why Sata had no respect for these clowns. Sata is smarter than I thought.
If HH and his MPs have integrity let them pay back the allowances they received. This is double standards for HH and UPND. How can they disown the document they developed. Shame on HH and UPND
You can only pretend for a while but definately your true colours are showing. UPND and HH can not be trusted.
Mumbwe ni mumbwe!!!
VIVA PF LET US GO GO GO GO CAMPAIN MILLAGE GUYS. LET MOVE AND WIN.
RB MAN BE CAREFULL WITH GK-RED LIPS IS JUDAH ISCARIOT!
FIRE HIM FOR MISLEADING U THAT ALL WAS WELL WITH NCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
G K ULITAKO SANA STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!! *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAT ELSE CAN I CALL U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL> THIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BAMUDALA MWATUMWENESHAMO!
U CAN BE A CROOK IN OUR PANSHI MUDALA.
U HAVE GIVEN BA PF A MILLAGE MWANDI. I HAVE RESGNED WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT TO PF. WE WILL DE CAMPAIN U ON THE GROUND BUT WILL EAT THE BILLIONS TOGETHER.
WE ATE AT NCC AND NOW WE WANT TO SEE U FALLING MAN.
MUMBWE NI MUMBWE!
NO MATTER WHAT.
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# 120 WE GO WITH U AYA MA ONE BACHIT BA RED LIPS.
**** U GK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UPND MP’s should return our money if they mean what they are saying. PF has been consistent regarding constitution
U WERE FOOLING US KANSHI?
YYYYY MM =D
FOOLISH GOVT.
FOOLISH MPS
*****S IN DESCIN MAKING!
VIVVA # 121, #120, # 119, #118.
WE CALL OTHERS TO JOIN THESE GUYS,
PF LETS GO AND CAMPAIGN.
WE SENT IDOTS TO PARLIAMENT.
FOR SELFISH REASONS!
WHAT A PIPO OF NO SENSE!
Kunda, ukutemwasha saana kulimonesha ta ati George wa malango. Today all his evil scheming machinations to ej’acu.late his HIV infested spermatozoa on our constitution have failed, the spermatozoa has landed on solid rock.
WE WISH YOU GO AND WE WILL BURRY U MAN. DONT SPREAD YO +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HIV/TB/CHORELA IN YOUR MOUTH/
# 56 KAINGU……YOUR MAN, HH IS NOW IN A CONFUSED STATE….WE HAVE HEARD THE LATEST ON NEWS THAT HE WAS COURTING BA MMD IN THE NIGHT (LIKE A PROSTITUTE!) THAT THEY SHOULD FORM A COALITION GOVT, BUT BA MMD BAKANA (PROBABLY TO AVOID THE VIRUS FROM UPND)….THAT THE MORE REASON WHY UPND MPS SPOILED THE MMD SHOW IN PARLIAMENT ON THE CONSTITUTION BILL…….SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY TO THIS BWANA KAINGU?…..OF COURSE ITS BYE, BYE POLIO…..UPND IS DEAD AND BURIED….MYSRIP
MMD/UPND COALITION GOVT?…….HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BYE, BYE POLIO!
All you morons blaming UPND have no brains, you really wanted them to support the bill that you have been condemning all these years? Were you following NCCs deriberations for you to conclude that UPND did not object to a number of issues included/excluded form the bill?
I hope all of us fron diaspora posting comments on LT are registered voters.And I also hope that we will go to Zambia and vote.I further hope that all of us dovisit Zambia and see for our selves the poverty and anguish our people are facing.I understand that some people are supporting MMD from diaspora because it is there sponsor and their sponsorship is endangered once MMD is out of power.Be brave and face reality.We must all go and vote otherwise stop posting useless comments. Start thinking progressively and post meaniful comments!!VIVA ZAMBIA, VIVA PF!!
It is UPND that has won the game in the interest of the Zambian people. They dupped the MMD into believing the process would go through like a penalty kick without a stopper. The shock has come at a point where nothing can be manipulated. It is this last minute U-turn that has sunk MMD! Bravo UPND.
zambians beware of Useless People and Nonse Devils(UPND) betrayers .they have betrayed pf by forming a pact whilst on the other hand they wanted to form a coalition Govt with MMD. and they say to be interllectuals but they are thieves and dribblers
Wat ever da RED LIPED SNAKE was wishing for has gone,WHAOO! Ya luka zooona.
Bravo opposition MPs! ALUTA CONTINUO
UPND mps did a good job. Viva HH. You ‘ve truly represented the people. Whether the constitution floped or not they were entitled to the allowances.
#26,27,28,33 Senior Citizen,
If what you are saying about the “bad Sata’s 1996 constitution” is correct, then why didn’t UPND vote for the constitution amendments bill? You have lost me mate.
Senior Citzen, Capitalist, i see you are dead scared of PF. you never leave them in your comments even when not necessary. I thought this topic was about UPND watever and not PF.By the time PF is finished with you, your lips will turn brick red just like your GK.
#131 Bamwine. You mean you can’t read between the lines? if UPND was suppoting MMD they would have voted for the document. Please spare us your lack of reasoning.
This were many people are wrong..lets debate inteligently..without emotions..many people..can not reason or there is no sense in there postings..if you attend the NCC it doesnt mean you should vote for it even when it doesnt represent the wishes of people..MMD had so much to say in the whole process that deprived reasoning from many people..what UPND MPs did was great to us many zambians who see whats going on..not people who are not even in zambia. blaming what the MPs did.
For the first time I’m happy. Democracy is growing in my country!
#125 UNIP Chief Political Advisor, #124 HH’s Chief Political Advisor, #123 MMD IN C/BOMBWE, #121 MMD IN NDOLA, #120 MMD IN KITWE, #119 MMD POMPWE, #118 MMD SENIOR MEMB, #117JOHN PHIRI SENIOR:
There is no need for you to use soo many blog names, we all know you are one and the same person. Typical PF kaponya trying to create an impression that you have a lot of support. We know you lot how you operate and you are in for a shock this year!!!
#11 you are a disgrace and should be ashamed of yourself. The premise that anyone who opposes MMD is not a democrat is not only saddening but also unacceptable. What is sad is that the country’s resources are being looted and in process a lot of people are dying from preventable causes. In the meantime seemingly educated people like you show no regret. Africans are very cruel towards their own.
Kunda is an i.d.i.o.t and everybody knows. He is not respected by fellow lawyers because he sold his soul to the devil a long time ago.
Democracy at work indeed.No rubber stamping in parliament on such important national issues.How i wish UPND was there in 1996 consitution making process.They would spared us the rubbish of the current constitution.
UPND you are my people, thats why I will always trust you, you are really wise as you do not go for the wind and you are not cowards like some of these MPS. You made a good fight on the NCC and everyone could see that you are people of substance, your contributions were valid MMD wanted to use you but you said no. How can they pass the bill without the 50%+1 and coalision clauses which most zambians wanted, I remember from your debates you said it is not good for presidents to be ruling by minority, as he does not concentrate on developmental issues but to consolidate the next winning and buying the opposition. You were defeated on that day by MMD who were the majority, but I thank God that you blocked the MMD for wanting to pass what does not represent many Zambians. Viva HH and UPND
Kunda’s statement blaming UPND for the failure of the constitution to go through makes interest reading. Is he so dumb and naive to think the opposition is there to support MMD policies. Its a give and take situation, but MMD wants to play winner takes ALL. Wellcome to reality Ba Bwana!
50+1 was defferred to REFERNDUM which we were going to force government to undertake but now as things stand its a bit dicey. How can we be played like this.
Haa Ba HH Just shut up you are surrounded by Vulture ! Your MPS were there when the constitution wa s decided,After Chewing GRZ Money they now turn round.
Zambians These are the Characters you want to rule the Countries (Financial Thirsty UPND MPs?)
Its not me syaing it but BaMpombo has already said it all about HH:
“I find this chap’s claims and allegations appalling, grotesque and galling. And his lies are a product of a distorted mind. Hichilema is an incorrigible liar with a limping conscience because I have had no contact with this chap,” Mpombo said. “He is telling lies about the K10 million. He has never given me any money. I have been on my own since I left government two years ago and I have managed and I am still managing. Hichilema is just a cheap braggadocio.”
“He added that Zambians should use this year’s election as a verdict on the MMD’s failure on the constitution making process.”
On the contrary, it is Levy Mwanawasa who has lost and Michael Sata who has won here. This is the last nail to the coffin of Levi’s legacy. It is now dead and burried, forgive the pun. It is strange that apart from the dual citizenship issue, RB never commented on the constitution. Sata and Mwanawasa were opposed to dual citizenship.
I think that Zambians from all walks of life should rejoice that AT LAST, MPs have exercised the power that they have always had and now democracy has matured in Zambia. Next Parliament Mr Speaker, we want an official Parliamentary opposition and a shadow cabinet. Mwanmwamba should wake up.
NCC did their job and they deserve to be paid what they were paid.
You dont understand governance, parliament always votes, and a bill can pass or be reject, that is normal proceedure of parliament all over the world.
The problem is that some people are used to chief/chieftainence mentality of governance and so what has happened seems so strange to them.
In a democracy you never ALL agree on everything that is Kingship mentality. And you dont becaome bad just beacuse your point of view is different, NO.
No one was making this law for himself, but for the nation.
Today Y is in statehouse, tomorrow Z gets there.
What is wrong is to advocate for wrong things like Gay and Lesbian.
What is worng also is to support because of money only, after money you change gaolpost.
SATA and his GAY GANG supporters will never rule Zambia.
Zambia is not a filthy place where filthy and ditastable things can be allowed, NO.
SATA, his POST, and the entire homo community must be told, theirs is the opposition for good.
They will continue to wrtie false Journals from the POST square, and never enter state house because of their imoral inclination.
How can PF refuse to accept the new constitution on grounds that it does not support the homos?
This is unacceptable. Their leader SATA is now aging and the PF’s end is looming.
Shame on homos, what they dont understand is that refusing the bill does not change anything for them because the current constitution still does not permit their aborminable acts of homosexuality.
Homosexual offenders shall not rule Zed.
naikaba pa zed batata. Viva PF Viva Hon SATA, tuleya muku vota. Movement for Mad Dogs (MMD) kuya bebele
Senior citizen, in the developed western world, all decisions made by government officials are done so on behalf of the president, if anything goes wrong the president shoulders the blame. I dont recall sata being president in 1996 or you really wish him to be president.
NO. 16, DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE DUAL CITIZENSHIP. PF IS COMING TO IMPLEMENT THAT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. PF KNOWS THE HUGE BENEFITS WHICH WILL BE GAINED FROM IMPLEMENTING SUCH A POLICY. JUST TELL YOUR RELATIVES AND FRIENDS TO VOTE PA BWATOOOOOOOOO.
SATA is happily married 1, now number 17 you said we will cry for what ,i have a problem with many of writers here, saying SATA,is bad this just reminds me of the FTJ who said SATA, is not fit to be president but give him one MINISTRY and he will transform it , and work hard to the like of everybody now i dont understand why if a person works hard given a ministry than the presidency, it like telling me HON MUTATI, is better off being a minister coz many are times he talks about commerce, and MMD, thats shallow thinking am not MMD , but i tell mutati is noe minister i admire, just look at the just ended Kasama BY election de man was CAUGHT distributing chitenge and mealie-meal ,coz he is not used am sure he might ve been forced, we bloggers no matter hau you hate sata, western is nw PF.
I AM REALLY PROUD OF PF AND MICHAEL SATA FOR HAVING SEEN THROUGH THE INTENTIONS OF NCC EVEN BEFORE IT TOOK OFF. MOST PF MPs WERE DISMISSED FROM THE PARTY OVER THE SAME WHEN THEY OVERRULED THE PARTY’s RULINGS AGAINST ATTENDING THE NCC. SO WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT HOLDING A CHAIN OF DEGREES AND LEADERSHIP? I THINK LEADERSHIP HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH DEGREES- IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WISDOM, FORESIGHT, SOFT/PEOPLE SKILLS, ORGANISATION SKILLS AND PATIENCE.
ANYELA KUNTULO MUGAINTU HH.
By the way CONDOLENCES ,on passing away BA JOEMWA ,he used to entertain us ,alot especially TSOWERO.
HH and your UPND shame on you.You allowed your guys to attend NCC in order to enrich themselves and at last your fail to defend what you proposed.YOU WILL NEVER RULE THIS COUNTRY.YOU ARE FINISHED.Lable PF MPs where are you now.BRING OUR MONEY BACK as tax payers NO votes for you BYE!\:d/\:d/\:d/
Was the 50% plus 1 recommended in the now rejected draft constitution?I thought it was thrown out by MMD..
What has PF done wrong?they never participated in the budgeted plunder,the true PF MPs that is,not the rebels.
HH eats with both hands and he has been exposed by this and by what GK said about the coalition Govt
I told HH that politics is not a safe zone for you, but he ignored my advice. I think after he loses this year’s election he will resign from politics. And that will be the demise of UPND, since he said “i am UPND & UPND is me”
The constitution was a noble cause, many were just let down by those who refused to attend, because if they attended MMD was not going to get away with certain articles which favours only them. PF was a let down in this, they were going to atend but could have rejected any allowances or better still take them to their constituencies for developmental projects. These pf guys actually were the one who protested in 2006 for the new constitution as such Mwanawasa had to budget for the same, but today they turn around to say we are not attending who were they fooling, you call for something then you do not want to participate, other bad articles favouring MMD passed because of PF’s failure to attend, for real some parties are inconsistent. Here Sata wanted to defend his old constitution.
You can agree something with Sata today, tomorrow he will wake up just to change his mind about it. We are aware the old man just wanted to defend the constitution they amended in his Chiluba regime hence he banned his MPs from attending. Wake up guys this man has no integrity, he can be a danger to our country. We need people who mean what they say.
# 11 this is the only time you have hit the nail on the head. I don’t know too what HH is talking about.He sent his MP’s to NCC and they got richer and bought a lot of cattle for their farms, today he want to turn around and blame it on the MMD. The only innocent person in this is Sata who refused from the beginning. He is the only innocent person to lead Zambia
UPND and HH have made two fatal mistakes so far:
1. Ignoring all wise counsel and marrying PF – now he is divorced as predicted.
2. Allowing their MPs to participate in NCC and then doing a turncoat on their own Bill – now they look like they went to NCC for the cash.
On No. 2, UPND now looks even dirtier than PF and yet the opposite is true.
Viva HH and UPND. Zambia forward you have done us proud; this shows the substance you are made of. We are behind you come 2011 elections. Don’t worry about the jealous people from the post newspaper and PF who live by jealous and untruthfulness. This year we shall vote to change for the better with UPND. Come on guys lets play the game, they are feeling your weight; MMD is talking about UPND and PF, Post Newspaper ARE FIGHTING THE UPND; Meaning that UPND is the most popular party today. HH FOR 2011.
G.Kunda , which Zambians are you talking about? your family? mind you ..in your statement there is not ligic boyi ..some of you guys must learn also about politics.
THEN MMD Chief Bootlicker…..ILISHILU SANA! I I WONDER WHAT YOU TEACH ABANA BOBE BETTER NGANIWE CHIBOLA TAUFYABA.