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Denmark speaks out on gay rights issue

Headlines Denmark speaks out on gay rights issue

PF leader Michael Sata
PF leader Michael Sata

The Danish government has denied accusations that Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata was soliciting for funds from that country in return for Zambia’s recognition of gay rights once the PF forms government.

 

Danish Ambassador to Zambia Thomas Schjerbeck has denied the assertions describing them as false and should not be believed.

In an interview with QFM-Radio this morning, Mr. Schjerbeck has challenged those accusing the Danish government of holding talks with Mr. Sata on the gay rights to prove their allegations.

He has stated that it is wrong for the media and people to speculate that the Patriotic Front leader was soliciting for funds from gay supporting countries in exchange for the recognition of gay rights in Zambia once the PF forms government.

Mr Scjerbeck adds that the interview that the Danish media had with Mr. Sata was a private matter that has nothing to with Danish government.

He further says that the rumors and accusations are based on a false foundation.

Mr. Sata has recently come under attack from some organizations for allegedly soliciting for funds from donor countries in exchange for the recognition of gay rights in Zambia if he became President.

QFM

115 COMMENTS

  1. Someone’s been vindicated. Let the media spreading malicious lies take caution in their profession. What was discussed between Sata and a few Danish media personel has nothing to do with the Danish governement.

  2. THIS IS A CLEAR CASE OF FRIGHTENED PEOPLE TWISTING THE ISSUE TO SATISFY THEIR DIRTY ULTERIOR MOTIVES….NOW THAT DENMARK HAS COME OUT CLEARLY LET’S SEE WHAT NEX THESE FRIGHTENED SOULS WILL HAVE TO SAY……….THIS CAN’T STICK ON SATA……INSHIMBI NI NSHIMBI……….NYAMA SOYA NAYO NI NAMA IYA FAKE!!!!!!

  3. The battered and weather beaten MMD government has been politicising irrelevant issues, instead of concentrating on much needed economic development. What an embarrassment, to have the whole Danish government come in the open through their honorable representative, to deny your stooopid allegations. Right in your face you clowns

  4. Let the Danish Government sue them so that they can prove themselves innocent. They are doing all they could to Pull Sata down, Mc would say; iyo ni Pull Him Down PHD. No profssionalism in the Media. Where do they learn their unique and useless journalism? especially, Times, Daily, ZNBC, ma RBish

    • Lets read properly, the interview where Mr Sata supported yakumbuyo is the truth, and the other truth is that MCS thought he would get some money from such but to no avail too bad. I still wish him the best.

  5. Ka George Kunda must speak out and tell us why he was telling lies to the nation and his ARV mate ka Chanda Chimba the 78th

    • Lundazi Zealot, please kindly use good statements. HIV is not a condition most Zambians did choose to have thus let’s respect each each as we debate serious issues.

  6. Desperate people resort to desperate measures such as intentional & malicious misinformation. Sorry, that will not help change people’s minds. MMD is in such a state of nervousness. Just exit peacefully

  7. No 1 and 2
    I do not know your understanding of English
    “He was not soliciting funds from the Danish government but rather the Danish media and the matter was private”
    My understanding is the money was not solicited from the government to recognise gay right. It was solicited from the Danish media as a way for SATA to recognise gay rights

  8. WE WANT THE BIG NOSE REV TO UTTER MORE NPNSENSE…..AND THE RED LIPPED FROG TO GO COUNTRY WIDE AGAIN APOLOGISING FOR LYING TO THE COUNTRY ABT SATA…..EVEN THIS UNDER FIVE HH SHUD APPOLOGISE FOR SAYING THEY WITH DREW FROM THE PACT BCOZ PF WANTED TO INTRODUCE GAY RIGHTS……HH IS NOW MAKING A FOOOOOOOOOL OF HIMSELF……NEVER POLITICK AGAINST THE BIG MAN

  9. Attention to all who pressed the Facebook like button for LT. Comments have been analysed at state house and the bulk 87% of comments are pro PF and oppostion. Therefore state house has decided to track you and hunt you down and cage you with Mpombo.

  10. Sata is still not vindicated. The question was on how he beleived that the Chinese were not respecting the laws of this country. In his reply to the simple question he brought in the gays and lesbians issue. The issue we have with him(most of us) is that out of context of what was being discussed or asked of him, he says our laws recognise homosexuality. What was needed was just implementation. So no diplomactic explanation will change the way we understood Sata or what he implied. Even his explanation in the post did not erase what he implied in that interview. Suffice to say our knowledge of Sata is enough to understand what he actually meant in his heart and what advantage he was trying to gain from whoever, including the Danish govt.

  11. #7 INDEED YOU ARE THE ENGINEER…..HOW CAN U FAIL TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE ENGLISH? MY FRIEND THE ACCUSATION WAS THAT SATA WAS SOLICITING FOR FUNDS FROM THE DANISH GVT FOR GAY RIGHT (GET THIS POINT) THIS WAS AS A RESULT OF THE MEETING WHICH SATA HAD WITH THE AMBASADOR. NOW AFTER THAT MEETING THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW WHICH WAS CONDUCTED WITH THE DANISH MEDIA, DURING THE INTERVU THERE WAS A QUESTION ON GAY RIGHTS. THIS BEING A QUESTION FROM AN INDIVIDUAL, THE DANISH GVT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT MAKING IT A PRIVATE MATTER BTWN SATA AND THE SAME MEDIA OTHERWISE THE SAME DATA WAS AVAILED AND SUM ONE CONCLUDED THAT SATA WAS TALKING ABT INTRODUCING GAY RIGHTS WHICH IS VERY WRONG AND MEANT TO BRING HIM DOWN………….VIVA PF

  12. No 14   SATA is on record to have said gay rights are already in the LAWS of Zambia its just a matter of implementing them….

    Is that not a fact?

  13. No 14   SATA is on record to have said gay rights are already in the LAWS of Zambia its just a matter of implementing them….

    I wonder how much he paid the Danish ambassador to campaign for him and what else he has promised them…. maybe Lesbian rights. He has killed two birds with one stone.

  14. SATA discussed with danish individuals and not the government. Bloggers seem to be paranoidal whenever they hear of SATAs issue. Sure even PHD holders heroworship a simple standard 6 and former police constable.

  15. Its a shame that when Sata goes to foreign nations, its to solicite for gay links and calling for balkanization of the country if foreign nations are not stepping forward to recolonize Zambia. The case in East Sussex is shame.

  16. You must be mad to expect that this Danish gay diplomat to accept this. Anyway the rat is already out of the bag. We atleast know.

  17. LT why are you trying hard to paint Sata as a gay rights person? Please stop this character assassination. Sata is not for gays as Zambia is NOT for it! MMD propaganda wing?

  18. I know who I believe between the Danish Ambassador and that fat fool Ronnie (and the demented Senior Citizen)

  19. Homosexuality should be legal in Zambia anyway. Whether it is immoral is a personal question that should be left to the individual, but it is repugnant to prevent consenting adults from engaging in consensual actions that do not harm the public.
    To be honest there will always be immoral people, be the adulterers, liars, or homosexuals. Obviously blatant over the top displays of immoral behaviour should not be tolerated, but is there anything more particularly wrong with seeing two men holding hands than seeing a pair of obvious fornicators (normally you can tell from the discrepancy in age) cuddling? Well your own rights are not infringed by homosexual behaviour, I see no reason to forbid it
    Please Zambians grow Up, accept Gays and Lesbians Thanks

  20. THE DANISH GOVT MUST SUE THOSE PAPERS THAT ARE WRITING LIES ABOUT THEM AND SATA ON GAY RIGHTS.TIMES AND DAILY MAIL JOURNALIST MUST BE BROUHT BEFORE THE COURTS. DENMARK ZAMBIANS NEED YOUR HELP BY FUNDING SATA FOR THE COMING GENERAL ELECTIONS.

  21. hahahaha
    No wonder the talks were in private…. some of this Gay/Lesbian stuff can be very private!!!

  22. where the hell has the denish been ever since SATA was accused? why didnt they come out earlier to clear the cache? n some of u r attacking the media..dont u know tht LT is a media too? mayb LT also has twisted the story..whose to believe now? even if denish govt speaks out tht doesnt mean most people ll reverse their belief in SATA,the fact tht his interviews whr well heard,,whts the point of sympathizn yoselves? so stop accusing the media,respect others professions..Actually i think MMD ll carry this year again.

  23. The low reasoning of most bloggers like senior citizen and other extremly paranoid people has indeed forced me to stop following blogs on LT and i guess will eventually stop reading LT. mY FEAR IS THAT I MAY BE EXCHANGING IDEAS WITH PEOPLE WHO’S SENSES ARE DEAD

  24. Its not what the Danish Government says or refutes the claims, its about what Sata said in the interview and the Laws that he claimed are already there, which just need to be implemented.

    Voters will not pay attention to what some Ambassador said on the radio, but the words that came from Sata’s mouth in the interview is what bothers people. This is what rings in peoples minds

  25. where the hell has the denish been ever since SATA was accused? why didnt they come out earlier to clear the cache? n some of u r attacking the media..dont u know tht LT is a media too? mayb LT also has twisted the story..whose to believe now? even if denish govt speaks out tht doesnt mean most people ll reverse their belief in SATA,the fact tht his interviews whr well heard,,whts the point of sympathizn yoselves? so stop accusing the media of manipulating wht SATA said over gay rights,,,respect others professions..Actually  MMD ll carry this year again.

  26. No 22
    Please give us a break! When something is wrong it is wrong!

    Gays and Lesbian are a deservice to Zambia.

  27. The old man Sata gets to have the last laugh. These should serve as wake up calls for the ruling party. Abusing public media to politicise irrelevant issues can’t win you the electorate. Just campaign in a professional manner.

  28. i agree with the ENGINEER…very PRIVATE indeed. so PRIVATE but alas we heard it all. useless.

  29. I WONDER WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION OUR LEARNED COLLEAGUES HAVE ATTAINED. WHEN ONE SAYS OUR CONSTITUTION HAS ENOUGH LAWS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF HOMOSEXUALITY AND LESBIANISM, DOES NOT MEAN THAT LAW IS PRO GAY, JUST AS WE HAVE LAWS THAT ADDRESS MURDER, THEY ARE NOT PRO-MURDER. OUR LAWMAKERS SAT DOWN TO DISCUSS HOMO AND LESBIAN PRACTICES, AND CAME UP WITH LAWS THAT WILL HELP CURB THE VICE.

    BY VIRTUE OF THAT LAW BEING IN OUR STATUTES, IT MEANS ZAMBIA RECOGNISES THE EXISTENCE OF GAYS, AND WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE ENOUGH SAFEGUARDS TO MAKE SURE WHO WOULD BE OFFENDERS WILL BE DEALT WITH ACCORDING TO THE LAW.

    THE REASONING OF THE SELF-PROCLAIMED EDUCATED DYSLEXIC FOOLS IS NAUSEATING.
    SATA SIMPLY SAID WE HAVE ENOUGH LAWS TO DEAL WITH SUCH VICE. IT’S NAIVE TO IGNORE EXISTENCE OF SAME SEX AFFAIRS

  30. If Sata indeed said we have laws that recognise gays and lesbians in our Constitution, whose preamble is that we are a Christian nation, the debate from the so called Christians should have been to look through our books and see if we indeed have such laws and decide whether we want to maintain them because that is a contradiction. For how can a country that purports to be a Christian nation have laws that are not compatible with Christian values? And since this debate started, no one has ever denied there being such laws, unless I did not pick it. This in my view would have been a more health and mature debate but as always, we are not a serious people. I think we need to be serious as a country, which is why we are voting ill prepared people and when they mismanage the affairs of the nat

  31. In East Sussex at the Gays and Lesbians Meet-up Sata had in the UK on his flopped trip the flyer reads:

    Gay Pride Calendar 2011

  32. Goodness gracious me!! This issue again? I thought the people who blog on here are ones who have been privileged enough to have a decent schooling of the Queen’s language. The word “recognise” has been taken out of context in this issue. Recognition in this particular case has been used to acknowledge the fact that homosexuality is prevalent in Zambia. Whether we like it or not it is present!! If the lawmakers did not acknowledge this fact, there wouldn’t be any laws!!! For those suggesting that Sata paid the Danish ambassador, you must be smoking some strong stuff. Where would Sata find the money to pay off a person who probably even earns more than our Chief Justice? For those wondering why the Danish government hasn’t sued the papers you must also be smoking heavy stuff?

  33. This is the goodness of democracy. The majority of Zambia do not want to legalise gays & lesbians. I can guarantee if there was a referendum on this issue, the outcome will be a big NO.
    It does not matter what some low thinking female Zambian that lives in Scotland supports. Take or leave it, this law will not be come to pass, not in the next 50 years. Let those that what do dig each other’s anuses with filth do it in private

  34. THIS AMBASSOR IS A LIE, ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS THE NEWS WILL TELL YOU THAT DENMARK HAS A HISTORY OF SUPPORT GAYS ESP 9IN COUNTRIES WHERE CONSTITUTION MAKIN IS IN PROCESS EG, KENYA FOR INSTANCE. ZAMBIANS, WAKE UP TO THE REALITY…….DONT JUST COMMENT IF UR HAVE A BAG IGNORANCE REGARDING THIS COUNTRY…………..:o

  35. Do you honestly think the Danish governemnt would stoop so low and start battling it out with GRZ in our highly inefficient courts? Come on guys let’s think before we let our fingers tour our keyboards. The whole gay rights issue has been a deliberate twisting of words meant to be used by the MMD propaganda machinery to woo the illiterate. Sad to see that even the assumed highly literate bloggers on this website have been woo’d as well.

  36. THIS MMD GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY FROM THESE SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES, WHERE GAY RIGHTS ARE ENSHRINED IN THEIR CONSTITUTIONS, THROUGH GLOBAL FUNDS, PROJECTS BY DANIDA, NORAD, VIS, SNV, SIDA, MOST OF THE MONEY THEY HAVE BEEN DIVERTING FOR THEIR PARTY CAMPAIGNS.

    MMD IS BUSY INSULTING THE GAY TAXPAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN FUNDING OUR HEALTH SECTOR FOR A LONG TIME. THE NETHERLANDS, NORWAY, SWEDEN, DENMARK, FINLAND, ALL THESE HAVE LAWS THAT RESPECT GAY RIGHTS AND THEIR EXISTENCE, CAN MMD GOVERNMENT DENOUNCE AND DISOWN THE AID THEY HAVE BEEN RECEIVING FROM THESE COUNTRIES, AND RETURN THEIR MONEY AS IMMORAL AID, FROM PERVERTS, WHICH CANNOT BE USED IN OUR GODLY AND CORRUPT CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, ZAMBIA? HOW ABSURD. STOP GETTING AID FROM THESE COUNTRIES.

  37. MUSHOTA shut up..u hv already stated that u r not a proud Zambian..u r disgrace n cursed,jst continuing stayn whr such stupidity is accepted.its seems u hv a tumour in yo brain whch needs to be removed..Girl u r mentaly retarted n thz no way u cud b telling zambians to wake up n grow,,who r u?

  38. No 33
    Don’t teach us some cheap law 101
    Sata said Laws that recognise gays are already in place : Meaning in Zambia we have laws already to recognise gays ( which is false. Its a criminal offence to be gay in Zambia)

    Second its a matter of implementing them : meaning when he becomes president, he will implement already existing laws which recognise gays (which means when he will be implementing laws which currently do not exist)

    Which part do you not understand…. just except that you SATA will do anything to get money be it selling land to Malaysians or opening gay bars.

  39. Guys, why are we focusing on homos when billions of dollars of our money is being shipped abroad? Homos are legal in SA and Botswana and these 2 countries are miles in front of us because they are focusing on real issues.Forget these homo MMD homophibia, and lets vote a govt which will deliver a real peoples constitution which will also include and protect all citizens, including homos, not the stupid “nafuti nafuti”!

  40. # 16….Supposing that Sata said that “there are gay rights laws in Zambia and its just a matter of implementing them.” What do these laws say with regards to gay rights? If indeed these laws in support of gays are already in our statute books, why then are you twisting the story to make it appear like its Sata advocating for gays rights when in fact these are already recognised by law? Remember a bad law is still law & needs to be followed until it is repealed.

  41. In East Sussex at the Gays and Lesbians Meet-up Sata had in the UK on his flopped trip the flyer reads:

    Gay Pride Calendar 2011

    It is hoped to share information and contacts to help with:

    – fundraising and sponsorship
    – governance and charity
    – promotion and marketing
    – campaigning
    – community involvement.

  42. I believe politicians should base their campaigns on issues that affect people on the ground. If you solely base your campaign on the belief that Sata is wrong about something, how is that going to benefit the masses. i think there’s not accountability from politicians on pledges they make during elections. someone should set up a website to keep record of what is pledged and then people can question them when/if they fail to deliver!

  43. Zambians have the propensity to be trivial. and thats why we will always be going———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-Down and———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-down ————————————————————————————————————————————————and down————————————————the drain———————————–>>>>>>>>>>> Mpaka Ndumbiwi!!!

  44. My challenge to all the bloggers, please READ the LAW on homosexuality instead of falling prey to MMD propaganda. The bible that Christians use recognise that Homosexuality exist (remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah) but quick to label it Immoral and most Christian know that. What does the Zambian law say about homosexuality? Or may i be helped, does the Zambian Constitution and statutes only talk about things that are acceptable/allowed or they also include things to be avoided?

  45. Among the people that attended the Sata’s meeting in the UK is the openly known Zambian Gay Person called MULENGA. He is now going around in London telling people that he can get Sata many rich white people fund his campaign. All Sata needs to do is to call him

    MULENGA we know you that you have been sleeping with many Greeks including an openly gay British Member Of Parliament that I cannot mention. You have never worked in London apart from sleeping around from one house to another. You wonder why your parents have disowned you due to the fact that you are professional male gay prostitute.
    cont..

  46. Interesting indeed. What spurs the Danish Ambassadors to resort to a posture of damage-control on behalf of Sata? It is a well known fact that. Sata revealed his homosexual development plan to the Danish Journalists. His plans do not appear in PF manifesto. Concerned Zambians have directed their guns on Sata, not on the Denish Ambassador. Whys is the Danish Ambassador so keen to publish fake denials. The cat is out and we know what Sata is scheming with the Danish people – to prepare ground for importation of gay rights.

  47. MULENGA of all the years you have been sleeping around, what have you gained from your gay prostitution. You are still broke and addicted to drugs where all your money goes

    Mr SATA talk to your UK representative to contact MULENGA just in case you did not have a chance to talk to him while in UK. He will connect to rich fund the much-needed Helicopter. I am sure he can organise the funds easily.

  48. With due respect to the ambassador, his defence is riddled with misinformation. It’s a pity that the ambassador has tried hard to manipulate every bit of this issue to fit his favoured narrative. Next time the ambassador should bring the verbatim interview Sata had on the issue instead trying to pull the wool over people’s eyes.

  49. Why should homosexuality be an issue, when a lot of justice deserving Zambians are being deprived of many social and ecomic amenities? Why fight God’s battles, when you don’t have the capacity to do so? Leave homos alone, let’s focus on development based issues and not who’s G-string is this, or who kissed who, it’s not gonna put bread and butter on many people’s tables. Am surprised to note that it’s the MMD who have turned the tables in being so trivial and personal, whilst Sata and his PF party are busy selling their party manifesto. Grow up! you have stollen enough, tell people how you are going to re pay them instead of pointing fingers at innocent people.

  50. 54#… I know Mulenga. He is finished article. I met him at the Mall last week
    He is a Grade 9 Drop out that cannot even write English but can speak it fairly.
    He needs to go back to Zambia and have people pray for his sins. This is exactly what Sata wants to introduce to Zambia for our young men to find an escape root to Gay-ism as a way of making money and demise with AIDS. If he wants to connect Sata to the UK Gay Community, let him do it. MMD is winning

  51. #56.
    Homosexuality is an issue in Zambia because it is an immoral act and against the order and creation of GOD.
     SATA in his reply to Dannish media showed support for it in the way he stated about the availability of consenting laws.
    And the the final conclusion is corrubrating that SATA supports the immoral act AND that if given chance to lead Zambia he can enact or impliment homo laws, hence the fear and cry for Zambians whose religion led by Jesus as created by the Creator God considers it a sin.
     

  52. Am in Zambia,not in the diaspora.on the copperbelt to be precise.And pipo,the average person on the street does not care about all this hoopla.Sata was accused of supporting homosexuality and he categorically denied.Thats wat they know.MMD need to get their act together and real soon.If the apex of attack in this electoral campaign is that sata is pro gay then they need a new campaign manager and strategy asap!

  53. @43 The Engineer (Australia),
    I’m sorry, I’m not a lawyer, but it’s basic knowledge that laws are put in place because we recognise the existence of bad practices that are anti-social, immoral and criminal, in order to protect the common good of the citizenry.

    A law is only appreciated by a wrong doer, otherwise laws do not exist for those who do right things. I’m not gay, hence, the law cannot be implemented on me, and to me it’s as good as non-existent. When the constitution recognises a vice, it does not mean it supports it, the opposite is also true, and it prescribes how punishment can be executed for such offences.

    This is how you misunderstand people and become delirious and delusional.

    • You are talking yourself in circles….
      SATA is pro gay and given the right check he says he will implement gay rights. I do not understand why you are complicating it.

  54. Sata and his PF followers are tasting their own bitter medicine. These are people who thrive on twisting facts and smearing their opponents with false accusations. Their aim is always to spread some false perceptions and in the process damage their opponents political careers. This homosexual issue won’t go away and it’s a big election issue among the God fearing Zambians. This explains why PF is panicking by sueing Shikapwasha and forcing the Dannish ambassador to deny the accusations. We will continue hammering PF with the gay issue if they dare bring false accusations on our preferred candidates. This is a political weapon we will continue using when needed, it’s our secret arsenal!

  55. No 60

    You are talking yourself in circles….SATA is pro gay and given the right check ($$$) he says he will implement gay rights. I do not understand why you are complicating it.

  56. And you people, do you know that we have more lesbianism in Zambia than homosexuality, especially among call girls, girls in boarding schools/colleges? But the Law can only be implemented when they are caught. The law is very clear, trespass, and you shall appreciate its existence, period.

  57. If SATA had a grain in his brain he would have known that gay issue make or break presidents anywhere in the world. He should have known what his loud mouth was going to say. Unfortunately he said his heart felt liking for gays before he could use his brain.
    Its now on record that he his pro gay, thats why he his running around to stop fires after the cat has been let loose.
    Unfortunately the horse has already run loose… we now know what he stands for

  58. Yes the ambassador is right the gay issue was discussed under closed doors and we know what came out inis their support for gays. Infact this kamaprivate meeting Sata had with that gay organisation was in private for sure. So even the ambassador may claim not to know about it but the truth of the matter is that gay issue was discausssed and Sata said he would support gays in Zambia after all its lawful in Zambia. So Sata cant run away from this fact. We shall use this to hammer Sata so that he can learn a lesson. Gays have no room in Zambia. Even you kaponya bloggers who support Sata your days are numbered. We shall continue telling villagers that this Sata thing wants mwamuna pa mwamuna and mkazi pa mkazi. Its clear that this Sata thing will lose the elections. I end here!

  59. Wherther Sata had said what he said on gays and lesbians or not, he would Still have lost this year’s election. This issue may just have cost him 100,000 votes which means he will now lose with more than 300,000 votes. What is the fuss about?

  60. By the way even HH was not comfortable with this Sata thing because he saw that Sata is slippery and can just change things over night and say gay is ok pa Zed. He was smart indeed. I mean HH. Yafa kuli baSata. This gay rope on his neck will not come out it will continue troubling him. Thanks HH for making some of us make a better choice that does not include Sata. I end here!

  61. 59 Ali Mwana wa Afrika

    I am also in Zambia (Lusaka). I am a catholic that attends mass frequently.. The debate on Homosexual
    has annoyed a lot of catholics. In Churches, preachers are telling worshipers not to vote for Leaders that will bring Sodom & Gomola.
    I took the liberty to speak to my neighbor who is from UCZ he told me that similar observations are being preached in their church.
    I am not a Pollster but this is a big issue with some voters. The same applies with many Evangelical Churches and Seventh Day Baptist

  62. Sata said that they are Gay Laws in Zambia that need to be implemented. I have asked my friends at LAZ and some lectures at UNZA just to explain this subject
    But have found nothing that supports Sata’s rhetoric.While you are entitled to defend his statement, not every one is buying into his defense. Sata has a right to defend himself if he thinks he was misquoted. However, this is a big problem with a lot of people particularly with elderly people. I am sure you do have your reason and statistics to say the opposite. However, it will get down to individual conscious on the polling day. This is a factor and that’s why the Ambassador has also jumped into the river and swim with everyone.

  63. I think i have said what i said on this homo nonsense, that, homosexuallity wont bring food and butter on many people’s tables why waste time on it? Let’s talk about why Rupia’s family embroided in corrupt activities when the majority are wallowing in poverty at their expense, the innocent zambians am talking about here. Homosexuallity is not an economic issue but a social issue solely based on peopl’s choices.

  64. When Sata loses this election, this will be his fourth time he is failing to get the Presidency. He seriously needs to look at the team managing his political marketing strategy. Compared to HH and President Banda, Sata has failed to articulate economic policies that can counter those of the MMD. In 1991 there was a political revolution in Zambia not because KK had stolen as some paper was alleging at the time, but because MMD had an effective political communication management. Three years ago when the global financial markets were in meltdown and the country was grappling with the death a sitting President, Rupiah and MMD offered very good leadership to keep the country intact. People will not forget that in 2011!!!

  65. Homosexuallity does not affect the country in any way but individuals who indulge in it it is for this reason that it needs to be left alone as it has no economic bearing what so ever on the economic indicators. wise up people and see the bigger picture here your minds are simply being diverted from productive issues to this useless issue. if some one prefers a smaller spiced up hole to the holier one that i like, it’s his choice as simple as that. If he commits sin to God then it’s between him and God as simple as that.

  66. 70# MMD DECAMPAIGN 2011

    This blog or thread is NOT about RB and his sons. Its about the subject matter at hand. Pleaser refer yourself to The WatchDog where I believe there is the subject that you want to talk about today.

  67. @33, so are you admitting that mr sata cannot articulate things or express himself in english? now that would be a really serious matter, please deny it.

  68. so what did mr sata discuss with the danish ambassador? is it a coincidence that soon after the meeting with the ambassador mr sata met the danish journalists? is it possible that the danish ambassador arranged the meeting between mr sata and the danish newsmen? could the danish ambassador have proposed to camouflage gay funds to pf by donating it through the newsmen? do we expect the danish ambassador to admit the matter seeing how sensitive it is in zambia? there are more questions than answers, this thing has stuck to mr sata like a second skin. in order to remove it you have to skin him alive.

  69. @70, rupiah cannot be corrupt just because the post says so. if that is the case then remember what the post has written about mr sata before. the post has condemned both rb and mr sata, so in reality they are saying that mr sata does not represent change. let’s not be selective otherwise we look silly.

  70. .

    70 – MMD DECAMPAIGN 2011

    Homosexual has had a major impact in Zambia. Why ?

    Because we have lost a lot of young Zambian Professionals which, we need to develop the nation. There are a lot of good talented Doctors, Academics, Engineers, Scientist, Educators, Economist and Politicians laying in our cemeteries with lost dreams.

    cont..

  71. .
    The risk of Aids is very high with Homosexuals. A lot of Disco Chongololo’s guys in the streets of Lusaka in the 1980’s started sleeping with foreign homos that came to Zambia. These same people, went around sleeping with their girlfriends and before we knew AIDS was an endemic. As a matter of fact, the first cases of AIDS in Zambia were reported with men between the age of 19 – 26 years in Zambia. The reason is – as mentioned above.

    cont..

  72. @72, okay but it should not be said by a presidential candidate worth his salt. the fact that the comment was unsolicited but volunteered by mr sata makes the whole thing more real.

  73. .
    In the USA, Medical statistics review that early signs of AIDS was found mainly in the Gay Communities way back in the 1960 & 70’s. Among the well known high profile case was the actor Rock Hudson who died of Aids. Ex Basket Ball player Magic Johnson was another high profile case in he early 1990’s but thank God he is still alive because by then ARV medications were way out from scientific research.

    cont..

  74. .
    So the notion that this has no impact on society of Zambia is very immature and a naive thought. We need to be looking at the bigger picutre and not jsut play cheap politics

  75. @80, and that is the reason why it is tragic that the pro homo thing should be started by one who aspires to be our president, one who should be protecting zambian lives.

  76. @51, what was wrong with mr sata simply stating clearly that the laws of zambia prohibit gayism? why did he answer a question that he was not asked? everyone knows that you do not pass an exam by answering questions that are not on the exam paper.

  77. I cant imagine an illiterate president in state house like Sata. Some of you bloggers are quite spineless. You just support for the sake of supporting people like Sata. Its time you distanced yourselves from kaponyas of Sata’s calibre who enjoy insulting people wherever they are otherwise we may not see the difference. Yes we agree gayism cannot bring food to poor Zambians but bear in mind that people who support gays have twisted minds and can never see sense in reducing poverty in Zambia. I end here!

  78. .

    81 pf government

    Good wisdom from you my friend!. Indeed, it’s very tragic. Keep posting, Zambia needs you.

  79. Bane, look out for a tabloid calling itself Today Zambia, sponsored from Government Hill, to counter Fred M’membe and the Post. I think this is a vote of no confidence by Shikashiwa Chimona in the ToZ, Zadama and DeadNBC. This is paper is being fronted by one Ridgeway Liwena. It is going to be a propaganda rug full time.

  80. INDEPENDENT OBSERVER
    Congratulations on your english teacher for a good job he did on you, however, you have the tendency of missing the bigger picture when ever you contribute your thoghts on this blog. for the record, i mentioned [economy] and not society. society chooses to participate in homosexuallity acitivities on individual capacites and not en mass. Thus the impact of the effects of homosexuallity are widely felt by the individuals and not society at large as alluded by you. Homosexuallity is an individual’s choice it’s not a forcing matter.

  81. .

    87 MMD DE CAMPAIGN 2011

    Below is an extract from your first line on comments posted 72#

    “”Homosexuallity does NOT affect the country in any way but individuals who indulge in it..””

    My answer to you is: If you loose professionals that the nation has invested in to develop and take the country forward, then progress is hindered. That is the big picture.

  82. You know what, INDEPENDENT OBSERVER, you have chosen not to see the bigger picture so there is nothing else that i can say on this issue apart from what i have already mentioned. If you want to argue for formality sake then i rest my case. There are so many countries in this whole wide world who’s citizens are indulging in a lot of sexual imorality of all forms and it has never been an issue because, they have identified that sexuallity prefernces is quite a tricky affair, which deals with peoples choices on an individual capacity. Let God handle this issue and let individuals who choosese to engange in it face the wrath of God [as an individual]. Let us concentrate on finding solutions to our economic woes that have been brought about by the uncaring attitude of the MMD thieves.

  83. I have been following these blog exchanges. I went to boarding secondary school in rural Zambia. In a space of 3 years in the senior years, we lost 2 best teachers in Technical Drawing & Mathematics due to Aids. In the final year we struggled as the government could not replace the Technical Drawing Teacher in time for our grade 12 exams.

    INDEPENDENT OBSERVER = 2
    MMD DECAMPAIGN 2011 =0

  84. I have read a lot of scrap on this blog:
    -Homos are responsible for AIDS
    -Sata is going to bring homosexuality
    When are Zambians going to start working on real problems: corruption and poverty?

  85. LT is scandalizing President Michael Sata. Sata is not for gay empowerment! LT why are you removing my comment? Stop it! Sata will win!

  86. @90, are you suggesting that HIV/AIDS is an individual issue? that the government should not fund anti-AIDS drugs? are you human? we care for others do you?

  87. Someone tell me what gay laws are not implemented in Zambia at the moment. Please blind followers of PF Sata be real and save Zambia from this abyss.

  88. The danish and Sata are feeling the heat. The absanda can not amit that his gvt suports gay because he know that this will further kill sata`s political career which is already at the brink of dimishing return.

  89. Mr. Sata was wrongly quoted. My unserstanding is that, he did not mean to introduce and champion gay rights, rather, he meant that Zambia is well aware of sexual perverts and laws are there to address culprits.
    and its also wrong to say ……… from some organizations ……… Shikapwasha, Gregory Chifire, Dora Siliya, Moses Kalonde, Lifwekelo even RB are not organizations. The statement should have read, ” The PF leader has recently come under attack from some government officials and some NGOs with divergent views of PF for allegedly soliciting for funds from donor countries in exchange for the recognition of gay rights in Zambia if he became President.

  90. #IWE: how was Sata mis quoted?are you telling me even those two things btn your head misquoted that frastrated man?you mean you are one of those been mentioned that you have ears but you cant hear????he attacked himself thats why even that diplomat said it was a private interview Sata thot we wont get him but alas he is on air every tuesdays say the lays are there for what that RECOGNISE not PREVENT gayism,PREVENTION AND RECOGNISION mean different things,who doesnt know that kabimba and group told him to use legal language,get an oxford dictionary read what that evil man once said this is what is counting him down every day,Sata can not fool the whole nation enough with his monkey tricks

  91. #14 SATA was clear LAWS IN ZAMBIA RECOGNISES GAYSM. this is what he said. It was during an interview with Danish journalists. The funny thing is that the Danish journalists did not ask him any question on homosexuals and lesbians. He was asked about changing laws on Chinese investment into Zambia if he were elected president. He instead of answering the question, he went to one that was pressing on his mind homosexuality and lesbianism which according to him are recognised and laws are present, only needing reinforcement.

  92. The Danish Ambassador has simply exposed his strong belief in GAY RIGHTS. This confirms his involvement on this immoral matter. Tactically, the Ambassador identified Sata as the most suitable vehicle in which denmark can import HOMOSEXUALITY into Zambia. But no amount of cheap diplomacy will bell-out Sata as we know he is their chosen operative in clandestine international matters. Incidenally the invasion of Gay rights into Zambia is a serious form of BIOLOGICAL WARFARE to wipe out the innocent Zambian population.

  93. what ever was said ,Sata is gay and he loves it very much .if i may ask,where was this gay called ambasdor all this time?Was it that he was looking for how to again tell lies to the zambian people?We are aware of some gay prostitutes here in london,zambians for that matter who are busy raising money for satanas campain there in zambia.i cant mention names but we know you

  94. RB supports GMO which will kill our original seeds and bring up massive suffering and hunger among our farming population. All GMOs have seeds that ensure that the developers can decide if to cause hunger in a nation or not simply by increasing the prices of seeds. And these seeds have no reproductive off-spring that farmers can store and use later after harvesting. Not speaking about the environmental damage that these crops cause to the other vegetation in the surrounding areas where they are grown.

  95. Why does Zambia accept aid money from nations that support gays? Don’t they (GRZ) not know that gays also pay taxes in those nations which is passed on to Zambia as aid? If we do not support anything gay, then let us shut out their money and be real.

  96. Whether the MMD likes it or not, Sata will rule Zambia and punish each one of them for corruption and dragging Zambia through the madness of destitution.

  97. Come gays or not, Sata will win and set Zambia onto becoming a better place for acitizens instead of the thugs and thieves disguised as leaders under the MMD.

  98. No 35, the question about Zambia being a christian nation is not derived from comments that mc may have made, but from the the whole issue is being shown on public television. There is total heartret in those documents sponsored by the govnment. How in a christian nation can we be viewing repeatedly the same pictures , very bad lunguage etc. Infact as christians we are ordered to repect elders. But this sponsored chap has got no respect at all for the elders. What good morals is he teaching our children? Only bad ones offcourse, can somebody please advise him correctly, there are so many ways of making money not heartred money

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