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LAZ says its decisions are by the Council and not by the President in her personal capacity

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LAZ President Linda Kasonde
LAZ President Linda Kasonde

The Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) has said that the decisions of the associations are made collectively by the Council of LAZ on behalf of the Association and not by the LAZ President in her personal capacity.

In a statement released to the media, the council said that it was deeply saddened by the protests against LAZ at the LAZ Secretariat by unknown cadres this afternoon.

Below is the full statement

LAZ PRESS STATEMENT DATED 3RD MARCH 2017 ON THE ATTACK ON THE LAW ASSOCIATION OF ZAMBIA AND THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE LEGAL PROFESSION

The Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) is deeply saddened by the protests against LAZ at the LAZ Secretariat by unknown cadres this afternoon. The attack appears to be an attempt to intimidate LAZ from performing its statutory mandate. Fortunately, no property was damaged and no one was injured and we applaud the Zambia Police for their quick intervention to secure the safety of our members of staff.

Whilst LAZ would like to thank the police for swiftly coming to our aid, we hope that the matter will be thoroughly investigated to determine whether this was a legal demonstration. Whilst LAZ celebrates the right to freedom of expression and association and the right to peaceful demonstrations by all Zambians, that right should not infringe upon the right by LAZ to exercise its mandate freely in line with the tenets of democracy.

LAZ has noted that personal attacks have been made against the LAZ President during the protests. It must be noted that decisions of the Association are made collectively by the Council of LAZ on behalf of the Association and not by the LAZ President in her personal capacity. LAZ hopes that all well-meaning Zambians will stand in solidarity with LAZ as we seek to uphold the rule of law, constitutionalism, good governance and social justice in the country as mandated by section four of the Law Association of Zambia Act. LAZ would like to reiterate that it will continue to stand firm in executing its statutory mandate in an independent manner without fear or favour.

COUNCIL OF THE LAW ASSOCIATION OF ZAMBIA

67 COMMENTS

  1. This is joke of a Govt. Wooing investors like this???. Now, which credible investors in their normal minds would want to bring and risk their resources into a lawless place like this in and create jobs??.

    This proves the wise old adage “If you think education and exposure is expensive, try ignorance in a cocoon.”

    • @Brabus, the investors you’re talking about won’t base their decision of coming to invest in Zambia on what happened today because where they are coming from, protests usually turn violent and deadly.

    • Let us pay particular attention to the word Mumbi used in an earlier article – ‘disingeneous’.

      You see, HH and his supporters are supposed to accommodate basic logic in the way they approach matters.

      For 15 days, which is the allowable time, HH refused to talk about his case. He chose to talk about preliminaries just to spend time.

      After the 15 days was over and the case expired, he asks two questions:

      1. Have I been heard or not?
      2. Have might rights not been violated.

      Did HH want ECL to speak for him so that his case could be heard?

      This is why Mumbi used the term ‘disingeneous’.

    • She is very naive, too much social media has influenced these lawyers, the worst LAZ president ever with no credence. Statement after statement. Pathetic

      Could someone please pass me the PUKE bucket

      Thanks

      Bb2014,16

    • Ladies above may have some envy towards Linda’s self self self and selfies. But I agree….
      Its like Ester Lungu is TOOO MUCH.
      Mutinta Hakainde not that much, if I met her in streets of New York I can’t recognise Mutinta. But Linda, Dora, Ester I will stop them and take a selfie with them.
      Mutinta HH or any Mutinta will not accept a selfie.

    • It is very clear that LAZ is both compromised and corrupt.

      The question, how many times has LAZ stood to promote the rights and social justice for any poor and/or ordinary Zambians?

      Someone help me, does LAZ mandate specify that LAZ shall promote only the rights and social justice of the rich?

      What makes LAZ think that an ordinary citizen like me will not think that LAZ takes its actions out of bribery, friendship, partisan, and preferential basis?

      Until LAZ actions will begin to prove otherwise, by standing for the social justice of the person in garden or misisi instead of always and only talking for those that are privileged such as Nchito, M’membe, HH and the like, I will continue to believe that LAZ is a corrupt and rotten institution that exists to promote bribery,…

    • Until LAZ actions begins to prove otherwise, by standing for the social justice of the person in garden or misisi instead of always and only talking for those that are privileged such as Nchito, M’membe, HH and the like, I will continue to believe that LAZ is a corrupt and rotten institution that exists to promote bribery, corruption, selfishness, preferential treatment, etc. as opposed to promoting social Justice, human rights, good governance etc. as their claimed mandate.

    • Our mission may be noble but if our conduct looks suspicious, we’re attracting unwanted reaction. Read the story of the woodcutter and the fox. The former helped the latter hide from hunters and when the hunters arrived the woodcutter said he had not seen the fox but his finger is still pointing to where the fox is hiding. After the hunters leave, the fox leaves without thanking his saviour. When asked why the fox simply said “if your words had matched your action, I was going to thank you “.

    • Lungu has had beef with LAZ since he was suspended after duping some poor former Lafarge woman. Bloggers supporting the cadres and advocating for the removal of LAZ presido are either knowingly or ignorantly fighting Chaponas battles. The basic questions people should be asking themselves are has LAZ done anything against the law? Has LAZ done anything against their Mandate and constitution? If you don’t have a compelling answer and just muttering based on your emotions then you might just be a senseless cadre.

  2. But Musa Mwenye representing Nchima Nchito on the bill of LAZ? From the look of things then Linda must be the LAZ Council!

  3. @ Brabus. U are spot on. No intelligent foreign investor will risk his Capital by investing in a lawless country like Zambia led by a violent and illegitimate President. After compromising the Courts ,PF is now intimidating LAZ and Opposition Parties. When the Petition is internationalised and filed with ICJ we can expect more drama and kneejerk reaction from the unruly PF Cadres.PF knows that they are in deep trouble should the Petition be heard, determined in Court becoz Lungu did not win the 2016 Election. Any independent Court would have no difficulty pronouncing HH as the Duly Elected President of Zambia. The only problem would be how to transfer power to the Legitimately elected President HH. We will need Ecowas to drive “Jammeh” out of Zambia just like what was done in Gambia. We…

  4. I THINK IN THIS MATTER LAZ HAS NOT ACTED ABOVE BOARD. LAZ WILL BE SEEN TO BE TAKING SIDES. WHEN DID THEY EVER ACT SO SWIFTLY IN HELPING EVEN ORDINARY ZAMBIANS?

    • What an IGNORANT Ar.sewore you are!! I didnt know that levels of ignorance have gone up so high in Zambia especially amongst these monkeys and rats!!
      Ordinary Zambians are not fee paying members of LAZ and are not entitled to a lawyer appointed by LAZ. Membership fees paid by lawyers entitle them to a defence by a lawyer by LAZ just like Trade Union members are entitled to defence from a lawyer appointed by a Trade Union.
      You ignorant PF mother FUC.KERS appointed by Big Ar.se Davis Mwila have gone too far!!

    • @ 4.1 Chilyata,

      Why do you decide to openly publicise your own ignorance while pretending it belongs to others when the said ignorance is your for good.

      Who told you, and how did you come up with the idea, that LAZ’s mandate is to represent it’s members in courts?

      Is that what you think would call for an act of Parliament? That there shall be LAZ to defend it’s members in court?

      In their statement the have said they are pursuing their mandate to promote human rights, rule of law, social justice, etc. They have not talked about privileges of members.

      So how do you come of with a sentence that is excited to be only found in a disorganised nightmare?

  5. Let us pay particular attention to the word Mumbi used in an earlier article – ‘disingeneous’.

    You see, HH and his supporters are supposed to accommodate basic logic in the way they approach matters.

    For 15 days, which is the allowable time, HH refused to talk about his case. He chose to talk about preliminaries just to spend time.

    After the 15 days was over and the case expired, he asks two questions:

    1. Have I been heard or not?
    2. Have might rights not been violated.

    Did HH want ECL to speak for him so that his case could be heard?

    This is why Mumbi used the term ‘disingeneous’.

    • LAZ’s support for there fully subscribed member has nothing to do with tax evasion. Though others like big kas are calling it “invasion” whatever that means. Also, I hope people know that there is a difference between The Post and M’membe. The Post is the one under liquidation, not The Mast, no. Linda hasn’t done anything wrong to warrant that kind of barbaric behavior by pf thugs.

    • @ 5.2 Chilyata,
      Just because you were raised up using that language and behaviour does not mean it is normal language.

      It must have been normal language and behaviour in your home as you were growing up, and so you believe life is that way.

      Let me notify you that 99 percent of families were not raising up kids the way you were raised up. Therefore your upbringing was not normal but abnormal.

    • Should be annexed by Zimbabwe and call it Zambia-Zimbabwe. Rupiah Banda will be president!

  6. @Manda (not your real name of course, your real name should sound like a UPNDonkey’s). Illegimate President? But he is visiting Israel at the invitation of the Israeli government. And the other day the Commonwealth SG personally travelled to Zambia to invite His Excellent THE President to attend the commonwealth summit. This after meeting hh, but I don’t remember the SG extending an invitation to Hh. ALL the international observers without exception declared the Zambian election free and fair and meeting acceptable international standards. Aren’t you missing something UPNDonkeys, like that you must first declate ALL the international observers and governments that recognise Chagwa as illegitimate? But instead hh is eager to.meet the Commonwealth SG. Something wring in his head then?…

  7. @1.3 Mushota, I have always admired your posts but this one is TOO much to the point..hilarious too! kikikikikikiki….

  8. The last thing I want to be in this world is to be a UPNDonkey. Donkey is bad enough, but UPNDonkey! With GBM as running mate! Please don’t make me puke!

  9. Thats childish excuse LAZ. You’ve taken dangerous path & become puppets of politicians. We all know who council is composed of e.g. you have a Nchito in LAZ council & LAZ has hired a lawyer to defend her brother whos accused of committing offence against people of Zambia. There people on death roll languishing in prisons without trial for which LAZ hasn’t done this. Now I believe that so called Cartel has hijacked LAZ. How long will respected lawyers remain quiet & fail to correct these infants now running LAZ to lowest!

    • Your STU.PIDITY and IGNORANCE has NO limits!! Ar.sewhore!
      Ordinary Zambians are not fee paying members of LAZ and are not entitled to a lawyer appointed by LAZ. Membership fees paid by lawyers entitle them to a defence by a lawyer by LAZ just like Trade Union members are entitled to defence from a lawyer appointed by a Trade Union.

    • God have mercy on you @ Chilyata together with your Fred Mmembe Linda Kasonde & Nchitos. Do you think the Lord punishes people for no reason? You need to pray harder because God knows who is innocent even if you insult me from your rich store of insults. They mean nothing to me but I count them a blessing!

  10. LAZ’ s actions has exposed them to such treatment and they can’t lament.
    The case is TAX INVASION. Nothing to do with freedom of expression….o my goodness.
    This organization is heavily indebted to the Nchito/Mmemb clique…….they are so very deeply buried in it that they are incapable of seeing sense.

  11. @Terrinle, So you now need an invitation to attend the Commonwealth summit? next you will say SG Gutierrez has invited him to attend the UN general assembly!!

  12. The other day l couldn’t believe what l was reading. Former Katombola MP Regina Muskotwane was rebuking the President and his govt of not having morals among other things when infact not tòo long ago she used to trek from Ministry of Education to Findeco House every week to shag a late businessman/Politician in his office after 17hrs, whilst fully knowing the man’s wife at Foreign Affairs.

  13. It is very clear that LAZ is both compromised and corrupt.

    The question, how many times has LAZ stood to promote the rights and social justice for any poor and/or ordinary Zambians?

    Someone help me, does LAZ mandate specify that LAZ shall promote only the rights and social justice of the rich?

    What makes LAZ think that an ordinary citizen like me will not think that LAZ takes its actions out of bribery, friendship, partisan, and preferential basis?

    • Contd..
      Until LAZ actions will begin to prove otherwise, by standing for the social justice of the person in garden or misisi instead of always and only talking for those that are privileged such as Nchito, M’membe, HH and the like, I will continue to believe that LAZ is a corrupt and rotten institution that exists to promote bribery, corruption, selfishness, preferential treatment, etc. as opposed to promoting social Justice, human rights, good governance etc. as their claimed mandate.

  14. Power can be very addictive and it can be corrosive it is important for the media to call to account people who abuse their power this has nothing to do with tax.

  15. Iwe kaMushota, what have ever done for Zambia? You’re criticizing someone more intelligent than you are. Just continue working in nursing homes uko naku zonda matako Yaba zungu.

  16. Which useless thugs forms the rotten LAZ Council??? The truth is LAZ needs a clean up or the institution will soon lose relevance.

  17. STOLEN POST: This is not the first time Laz is going against a sitting government. Sakwiba Sikota and the late George Kunda were against the late Fredrick Chiluba’s Government. Musa Mwenye went against Rb’s government. We never saw this foolishness from cadres. Infact Mwanawasa banned these animals. To the contrary, our brown bottled looking president,so primitive, who “claims” to be a lawyer, with a mindset of a kaponya, with all the qualities of a teenager you could ever think of seems not to be bothered by this inhuman behavior. I mean, wtf is this? For how long are we going to tolerate this barbaric behavior?Enough is enough

  18. The Root causes of this lawlessness are failed Leadership and the Disputed 2016 Election and the still unheard Presidential Petition. Everybody knows , including a 5 year child that HH won the 2016 Presidential Election but Lungu stole the Election and is in Power illegally and illegitimately. To have peace in Zambia the Petition has to be heard,determined and the Winner declared by an Independent Court. It is crucial that the Petition be referred to ICJ for Trial. The Petitioners and the Petitioned will have to accept the verdict of ICJ which will reflect the Will of the Zambians. Lungu should stop fooling himself thinking that he can Rule this country without resolving the Petition. That wont happen and Lungu will remain illegitimate with consequences too ghastly to contemplate. The…

  19. SASHI NCHITO THE YOUNG SISTER TO NCHIMA NCHITO IS A MEMBER OF LAZ EXECUTIVE. SO WE CAN SEE THAT LAZ IS A BIASED ORGANISATION. THE OTHER TIME THIS LINDA KASONDE WANTED TO DEFEND UPND AT THE PETITION “HEARING” IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. ZAMBIANS ARE ABLE TO SEE AND MARK ALL THESE HAPPENINGS.

  20. There is absolutely nothing wrong in LAZ appointing one of its Member to represent and defend a LAZ Member. An attack on one of its Members is an attack on LAZ. The problem in Zambia is the Power Hungry Lungu who has stolen the 2016 Elections and is Planning to steal the 2021 Elections. This lawlessness by PF Cadres is due to the Disputed 2016 Election. For this reason the Petition shall be heard, determined and the Winner declared by the Court. Lungu cannot wish away this Petition and expect that some how it will disappear. It wont. The stolen Election and the Petition will haunt Lungu to his grave. The writing is on the Wall!!

  21. 1. What wrong has LAZ done? Which political party does Nchima belong to? Is the liquidation of The Post a UPND venture? What particular wrong did Linda commit? Has LAZ acted outside their mandate by helping their member? Pf cadres must be termed one they will stand against the Republican President. Also, did these cadres obtain a police permit?

  22. Just Shut Up you corrupt HH Cadre. It’s clear you are going to bed with UPND. More will
    Come your way as long as you continue to be used as UPND’s Mouth ? Piece!

  23. The Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) is deeply saddened by the protests against LAZ at the LAZ Secretariat by unknown cadres this afternoon….
    Why can’t you jusf say of cadres or criminals after all we know them

  24. honestly speaking. do peoplke expect learned lawyers to side with government just because they are in power? THEN IT WOULD BE POINTLESS TO HAVE A LAW ASSOCIATION. THEY GO BY THE BOOK SO LET THEM DO THEIR WORK. AS FOR SIDING WITH THE RICH, I DON T THINK SO BECASE WHAT THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE zAMBIAN.

  25. Whoever organized this PF Demo against LAZ did not do any favours to PF and Lungu. The Demo has confirmed the perception that PF is an intolerant and violent Party led by a violent and thuggish President fearful of his shadow. The Disputed Election and the Petition has brought about this fear and uncertanity of the future. It is in the Interest of Lungu and Zambia to resolve the Petition and allow the country to move on. Zambians want to know who won the 2016 Election and who is their legitimate President. Without Hearing the Petition there wont be peace and stability in Zambia.

  26. Yes, HH is the undeclared president of the whole Zambia.
    ECL is deemed illegal president of half Zambia.
    Let the petition be heard to correct the state of affairs in Zambia.

  27. Followers of LAZ history since inception must be disappointed that it has sunk so low as to be administered with the naiveties of a grade 10 school leaver. Am not a lawyer but whatever is the composition of their council they’re not acting equal to the professionalism of people who have been through ZIALE

    • Yes they are compromised just like Mmembe. From my intelligence network, some of these lawyers were included in HH ‘s cabinet.

  28. ZAMBIA A NATION SLIDING INTO ANARCHY UNDER LUNGU’S PRESIDENCY?
    From face value, it is very easy and absolutely logical for any average Zambian to have concluded by now that the LAZ under Ms Kasonde is compromised and no longer serving the interests of the nation. What baffles me is- if LAZ is really missing it, why are lawyers in the country silent over the developments at LAZ? I hear a few PF Lawyers crying foul over LAZ’s conduct, but the question is-are there no provisions in the constitution to bring to order an erring LAZ executive? is LAZ a law unto itself such that there are no provisions in the LAZ Act for the removal of a compromised LAZ Executive? Why are we even entertaining the formation of another legal body when the problem at LAZ is not LAZ but the current office holders?…

    • @M Shula, uphold your argument but differ in that I believe, it’s far better to create a new body. Question is how far does the Rot go? Can you really discipline adequately one part if the meat of the whole body is rotten? Too much trouble, LAZ has grown a big head under Kasonde. Blimey how many photos does LT have of the chick? New pic for every article! Does she send in a new one for each article? Aaaaah, Vanity is her middle name.

  29. Public opinion is a force to reckon with. You ignore public opinion at your own peril. Public opinion is based on sensing, perception, side taking. It is neither good nor bad. The public is free to hold opinions in a democracy. Usually, sentiments dominate over truth in public opinion. In the face of public opinion, it is necessary for the victim to seek redress. The redress starts in the media as the right to respond and provide clarity and then agree to disagree based on facts on the ground. It also involves prevention of unnecessary conflicts by doing enough background work, especially in developing countries. Capacity building though seminars, workshops, colloquiums, meet the press, etc.

  30. We don’t care and we are terribly bored by your anti-gov’t organisation. The best is to for the gov’t to empty your offices. You should be ashamed by the numerous attacks you’ve made on the gov’t. Ms Kasonde puts herself about far louder than Hon. Mambilima, whatever her opinion is of gov’t she is diplomatic and upholds the decency of Law. Shameful poseurs are you LAZ folks.

    • @Mushota you gonna need a bigger bucket to puke that gal out of your system! You are right in this one. Too many pompous statements for effects to show she’s President of LAZ. BORING!

  31. @patriotic Abroad, you are one of the ignorant PF cadres wasting tax payers money. Your blind loyalty to PF will one day cost you. How I wish those PF could go and hunt your wife or your sister then you will learn to respect voice of reason found in Linda and her team

  32. The only problem is the level of education of those cadres. Look at those who went to LAZ non could speak the English I learnt at high school. They were just kaponyas. Who sent them? Headless creation trying to survive backing some one who is terribly comfortable. Doesn’t mind about them. Do they know? Now who gains when they do what they did? Is it them or those? They don’t know!!! Can someone open up their brains and scrub them with jik.

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