HH using the petition to continue holding onto the UPND presidency

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HH speaking to Commonwealth Deputy Secretary General-Political, Dr. Josephine Ojiambo (not in picture) in Lusaka on Monday
HH speaking to Commonwealth Deputy Secretary General-Political, Dr. Josephine Ojiambo (not in picture) in Lusaka on Monday
MMD youths have called on the Minister of Home Affairs and his counterpart from the Ministry of Justice to guide the nation on the continued denial to recognize Edgar Lungu as republican president by the UPND president and his followers.

And MMD Die Hard Youths National Coordinator has said that UPND president Hakainde Hichilema is hoodwinking members with his claim that the elections were riggid so that he remains at the helm of the party.

Commenting on a statement by UPND Munali Constituency losing Candidate Doreen Sefuke who said the people of munali will not recognize president Lungu because the victory of PF candidate NKadu Luo was nullified, MMD National Youth Treasure Geoffrey Mulenga said the claims by the UPND leader was bordering on inciting violence in the country.

Mr Mulenga advised the UPND leader to wake up from slumber and show leadership by telling his followers to stop issuing statements that border on treason and that the UPND leader should realize the country is governed by laws.

He said Home Affairs Minister Stephen Kampyongo should come in and curtail what he termed as the lunacy by the UPND which has the potential to inflame the country.

He said the UPND was not sincere in their claims that elections were stolen because the ECZ that conducted the elections in regions were he emerged victorious is the same ECZ that carried out the process in the regions were he lost hence invalidating the claim that the PF stole the elections.

Meanwhile New MMD Die Hard Youths National Coordinator Gerald Chiluba called on the UPND leader to concede defeat and focus on the real issue of renewing his mandate as UPND President.

Mr Chiluba said Mr Hichilema should stop using propaganda to hold on as UPND president.

“We want to urge HH stop to using the propaganda of elections being stolen from him to hang on to the leadership of UPND, the real issue is that HH has over stayed on the presidency of UPND and he wants to use petitions and confusions to hold on to the presidency of UPND. We want to warn him that we know the game is playing.

“We want to urge members of the UPND to read between the line because he does not mean while for them. This man wants to continue being the president. Let HH mobilize the party for the convention, he needs to do his homework, let HH renew his mandate as UPND president because as far as the UPND constitution is concerned he is no longer President, he is a former President of UPND,” he said.

he also called on President Lungu to focus on delivering on his promises.

“We also want to take this opportunity to urge and comfort president Edgar Lungu to focus on serious business, business of ensuring everyone eats two meals, bussiness of providing decent and affordable housing, business of of providing clean and safe drinking water, business of providing quality and affordable education and health services,” he said.

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114 COMMENTS

    • Ignore this mental case, HH. He is sick in the head, he can’t distinguish reality from fantasy.

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    • I never used to support HH but now I’m tempted to think he can lead the country better than what we are seeing. I think he is very serious when it comes to leadership. I don’t think we can have a ‘Tom and Jerry’ situation under his leadership. Is MMD part of PF? Next time I will definitelyvote for HH.

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    • I don’t know why HH has so many unsolicited spokespersons,

      Last mmd diehard youth Bowman is now pf, i don’t understand how mmd diehards die and resurrect as pf.

      Young man if you got nothing to do go screw numbian princess.

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    • You say HH is not dilusioned?

      Well, why did Maureen Mwanawasa refuse to spice up the ‘ votes in the bin’ pizza that HH cooked?

      Maureen told HH that she was not gonna involve herself, as a genuine, in falsehood. She told him to try Mushipe – and so HH had to revise his petition.

      By the 14th day, HH was still revising his list of falsehood because no one was ready to ‘act’ as witness to the baked petition.

      So HH thought he would use the tactic of preliminaries to waste the time and then claim he has not been head.

      When we were young we would use such tactics in a conflict you know you cannot win.

      You tell the onlookers, ‘ hold this guy, and hold me also. Otherwise I will beat this chap’

      After they successfully hold both of you, you now come up with a plan.

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    • Contd…
      ‘I would have beaten the guy to death if you did not hold me’.

      That was HH: I had so much evidence but I had no chance to speak. Was I heard? Was I heardiiee?

      At least for us we have stopped after growing up.

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    • How ever much you allow someone to be heard you will not hear anything until such a person speaks.

      ECL could not hear himself when HH refused to be heard, playing delay tactics until time was over.

      HH knew he had nothing to say regarding his cooked allegations, especially when people that he thought would spice up his cooking, such as Maureen Mwanawasa, refused to involve themselves with falsehood such as ‘votes in the bin’ fabrication.

      You don’t go in an exam, spend 3 hours writing your name and tearing your answer sheets, then when the invigilator says time is up you claim you have not been given chance to be examined.

      All Zambians have been waiting for HH to grow up for the last 6 losses, but now they are disappointed that he can never grow.

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    • Further, HH wanted to now use elements within the court system to fabricate other false evidences.

      But he was stopped when his demand to have electoral materials transferred from ECZ to the courts was thrown out.

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    • I have heard some people say the 14 days were not properly counted.

      If you are ignorant you will think that 14 days did not ellapse but if you are not you know that the constitution states clearly that if the period of hearing exceeds 6 days excluded days (weekends and holidays) are included in the count.

      And if the last day if hearing falls on a non-working day, the case will be concluded on the next working day.

      So, should the nation suffer because of the ignorance of a handful of people like yourself?

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    • shot put we thank you for been honest and realising what we have always been saying. We thank you for your future vote and look forward to working with you inorder to forge this country of ours forward. welcme to the UPND my brother.

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    • To those people who say the counting was not done properly, I have these questions for you:

      Have you ever read the article that deals with computation of time? Do you even know it exists?

      For your information, it is article 269, and (b) says:
      (d) where an act or a proceeding is directed or allowed to be done or taken within a time not exceeding six days, an excluded day shall not be counted in the computation of
      the time.

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    • Now, if you don’t know how to count I will tell you that fourteen days exceed six days.

      Therefore therefore Saturday, Sunday and public holiday (in short excluded days) shall be included in the count of days.

      In legal terms excluded days refer to non-working days for judges (weekends and public holidays) – do you understand?

      Did you want it to be simpler than this?
      You amaze me man/woman!!

      Now if you attended the same law school at the same time and with the same lecturers, writing the same assignments and same exams, marked by the same examiners with Mushipe and Mwiimbu, that is not my problem.

      The nation cannot stagnate because of failure to grasp simple matters of the constitution.

      HH dribbled himself with his preliminaries due to lack of evidence

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    • THE MMD YOUTH SHOULD SORT OUT PROBLEMS IN THEIR OWN PARTY. FIRST OF ALL THEIR SO CALLED PRESIDENT IS THE FINANCE MINISTER IN THE OPPOSITION, THEIR MEMBERS HOLD KEY POSITIONS IN THE SUPPOSEDLY OPPOSITION. BUNCH OF JUDAS ISCARIOTS. SORT OUT YOUR OWN PARTY LEAVE H H ALONE YOU MMD AND PF ARE FRIGHTENED TO HEAR THE PETITION AND LIKE ALL OF US KNOW THAT HAKAINDE WON THE ELECTIONS,

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    • HIS BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT UPND WAS FOUNDED ON TRIBALISM AND REGIONALISM. IN PARTICULAR HH WAS CHOSEN ONLY BECAUSE HE IS TONGA.
      SHAME!!

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    • “…let HH renew his mandate as UPND president because as far as the UPND constitution is concerned he is no longer President, he is a former President of UPND,…”

      DOES UPND HAVE ANY CONSTITUTION, MR AUTHOR?

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    • @ Peter

      DOES “CHRISTIAN NATION” (LOL) OF ZAMBIA HAVE FUNCTIONAL CONSTITUTION, NEVER MIND FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT?

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    • Simple question, why did ECZ fail t distribute Form 12 in Lusaka. This is used for results computation. Secondly 2 independent judges nullified parliamentary seats for Munali and Lusaka Central using same evidence HH has for the Constitutional Court, what does that tell you. Now there is a Moron on this thread called Peace for Zambia who is misleading people. Maureen Mwnanawasa did not refuse to work with HH, if anything she is the one that discovered 14000 votes for HH in Kanyama had been hidden by ECZ

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    • I was attracted to the article by the headline thinking that some UPND operative was raising concern and abandoned reading it as soon as I noted it was some other party raising concern!

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  1. I wonder why HH gets away with it,this is a sign of weakness in our justice system. If it was for a poor citizens doing what HH is doing ,they would have been behind bars. Government has made him to grow big headed and this is not fair. Can the law please visit him.

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    • Simple, he does that by following the law and not like you Bemba man that believes in manipulating the law to suit your needs. Even your edgar lungu, as poor a lawyer he is knows that HH has done nothing wrong

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  2. HH talks facts.those elections were stolen,rigged & robbed! you’ll always be scared of your own shadows each time you realize that in fact,the sufferings of the masses falls on Edgar’s hands…even the blood of those who died @ oydc is on Edgar’s hands…this man will forever remain guilty…am very disappointed with the way he’s running the affairs of this country.be it the judiciary,press,governence, etc!

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    • Upnd was busy chasing trucks and planes in an effort to curtail rigging. They planted upnd cretins on all polling stations. They even carried out a pvt which later showed that OVAL HEAD lost. During campaigns OVAL HEAD said that he won’t concede defeat of he loses. What is happening now is due to the promise he made of not accepting results.
      Those who are talking about OVAL HEAD should just ignore him now because that’s how under 5 politician behaves.

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    • Why don’t you become the first one to ignore him, you always talk about him. I hope this is your last comment about him, ignore him please! We shall appreciate.

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    • HAS HH EVER WON ANY ELECTIONS IN ZAMBIA? THE MAN I AM PRETTY SURE HAS NEVER BEEN ELECTIVE IN HIS LIFE- NOT EVEN DURING HIS PRIMARY SCHOOL DAYS. THAT BEING THE CASE HOW DOES HE OR HIS ONE-PROVINCE FOLLOWERS EXPECT HIM/HIMSELF TO WIN THE PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST?

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    • @ Peter

      How many PF elected officials can achieve what Trump has achieved without ever been elected to any office?

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  3. If you think the ECZ was flawless then allow the court to fairly hear the petition and give judgement based on truth and not time lapse.
    even by ECZ results HH is more popular than CHAKOLWA in a larger geographical area.
    so he is highly representative in terms of area.
    mwee fikopo don’t comment cos you don’t have degrees.

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    • Why hasn’t the nation been shown “evidence” of stealing elections?? Why not build a case for the petition with “evidence” to the country? Why should the “evidence” only come out in court?

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    • How do you hear a petition whose petitioner does not want to talk, hear yourself?

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    • IT WILL BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO HEAR A CASE AFTER 6 MONTHS WHEN IT CAN ONLY BE HEARD IN 14 DAYS. WHICH CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION ARE YOU GOING TO USE TO HEAR SUCH A CASE?

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    • Our constitution is greater than one man. It states that if you are bringing up nonsense in 13 days, and on the 14th you then have your whole lawyer squadron leave you, the constitution on the morning of the 15th day states the president continues.

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    • Bend the law for the sake of a simple opposition party leader who has lost elections 6 times?..ki ki ki ki

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  4. Ukutemwa ukwiba you thought you will get away with it. If PF was innocent in this matter they could have reacted but as the saying goes you reap what you sow is haunting them. The guilty are afraid.

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  5. You MMD cadres what is your problem H.H. is right Lungu is a president illegally? Imbecile cadres! Matako yanu!

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  6. Just trying to divert attention from the real problems the country is facing caused by their failures. The people who died in the stampede have NOT yet been buried but some f00ls think we can forget so quickly.

    – Just watch the video of the OYC queues on zambianobserverDOTcom. Unbelievable!!!

    The root cause of the stampede is your economic failures.

    They thought ruling a country was easy. The PF/MMD boat is sinking due to VISION-LESS F00LS. We rejected RB/Dora/MMD in 2011. PF has forced us to eat our vomit (MMD) in 2016 even after we rejected them also.

    Maybe approach JK to compose another Boostele song to ease the pain the people are going through coz clearly u have NO VISION for the country.

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  7. HH was quiet the time they announced EL won now he us doing all these he knows upnd people won’t allow him to stand as a President that’s why he is backing like a rabid dog when a dragon fly passed he is backing.

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  8. We members of upnd and more than half the country want him to continue leading us. We have confidence in his leadership unlike the drunk rat

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  9. I had the same thought too. These court cases are a well articulated scheme by HH and GBM to hung on to power in UPND. Any way time will tell.

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    • All the more reason for lungu and PF to stop using the 14 day technicality and let the nation see what UPND have as evidence , no ?

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  10. Divide and rule I hear you. Won’t talk about HH again because he is just become a school debate.Those for and against. We don’t draw a line between the truth and lies. And I’m happy you are a nice person for not having insulted me. It’s hard here people go out with insults kekekekeke. But please allow me when you feel like I can say something.

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  11. You say HH is not dilusioned?

    Well, why did Maureen Mwanawasa refuse to spice up the ‘ votes in the bin’ pizza that HH cooked?

    Maureen told HH that she was not gonna involve herself, as a genuine, in falsehood. She told him to try Mushipe – and so HH had to revise his petition.

    By the 14th day, HH was still revising his list of falsehood because no one was ready to ‘act’ as witness to the baked petition.

    So HH thought he would use the tactic of preliminaries to waste the time and then claim he has not been head.

    When we were young we would use such tactics in a conflict you know you cannot win.

    You tell the onlookers, ‘ hold this guy, and hold me also. Otherwise I will beat this chap’

    After they successfully hold both of you, you now come up with a plan.

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    • Contd…
      ‘I would have beaten the guy to death if you did not hold me’.

      That was HH: I had so much evidence but I had no chance to speak. Was I heard? Was I heardiiee?

      At least for us we have stopped after growing up.

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  12. Neither the ruling party nor the opposition will move Zambians out of this economic quagmire. You are both very very serious time wasters. You think by posting things and immaturely as usual insulting each other’s leaders from both parties, you are helping us. Get out both, PF and UPND, bloody out #bring back the white man to rule us

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  13. This is purely an internal matter on how long HH “clings ” to the Upnd presidency. On him not recognizing Edgar as president, it’s his dream alone and there’s nothing he can do apart from “clinging “to his dream.

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    • Anyone would do the same if they were HH.

      HH has found very loyal super-glued supporters who don’t know when they are being deceived or not – to the extent that even if HH told them,

      ‘i am deceiving you’

      they would argue and tell him,

      ‘you are not decieving us. You are an honesty man’s. You forever!!’

      That is the mentality if UPND cadres. You can see it even from the discussions here.

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  14. HH will remain the best man for this country. ECL is a very good man I like him, however the problem is capacity or lack of it. People have made these two look like enemies because of child, irresponsible, amateur, immature, careless and reckless comments. HH has the capacity and he has demonstrated this in his private life. I don’t want any chimunthu to comment on what I have posted, because it is final

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    • @17.1
      I like you comment. You have put it so plain. Kamwaiche ka @nez la die hard for OVAL HEAD is one of the zealots who refuse after OVAL HEAD tells them that he is joking.

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    • HH may be your best man, but definitely a very poor political leader.

      If you put Zambians together and check the best man in raring cattle, someone may come out the best but not as a leader.

      In my view HH is the worst political leader in this country followed by Nevers Mumba.

      How do I know? Simple – no good leader will call on citizens to rise up and fight just because of losing an election.

      HH called on citizens to rise up and fight, but fortunately the citizens showed more leadership than HH by refusing to grant his call.

      Nevers Mumba followed the same path of calling on Zambians to right up and fight, saying ‘Why die of hunger in Kalingalinga, you are better off doing fighting on the street’

      By the aforesaid, HH and Nevers are the worst political leaders Zambia has…

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    • By the aforesaid, HH and Nevers are the worst political leaders Zambia has seen.

      No other leaders in the history of Zambia as an independent state has ever called on people to rise up and fight.

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  15. Leave Oval head and Chagwa alone guys! There are better Zambians who can do better if only we change the way we choose leaders. If we continue with the way we go about choosing leaders, we should not be surprised when a Frog ends in state house!

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  16. H.H. is the legitimate president all people know. Days are numbered for the drunkard president

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  17. UPND IS AFRAID OF REMOVING HH FROM THE PRESIDENCY BECAUSE THEIR NEXT CHOICE WILL STILL BE A TONGA. AND THAT WILL JUST SERVE TO CONFIRM FURTHER THAT THE PARTY IS A TRIBAL GROUPING. AND IT WILL MAKE THEM AN EASY PREY FOR THE OTHER PARTIES TO PUNCH HOLES INTO. RIGHT NOW UPND IS IN A MESS OF THEIR OWN MAKING. THEY ARE STUCK WITH HH. THEY DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH HIM. AND HE HAS PERSONALLY BEEN FUNDING THE PARTY FROM HIS OWN POCKET, EVEN EXECUTIVE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN HIS OWN HOME WITH HIS WIFE SERVING DRINKS. SO UPND CANNOT EXTRICATE ITSELF FROM HH. THEY OWE HIM A LOT. AT LEAST IF HH WON THE PRESIDENCY, THAT COULD HAVE REMOVED THE SHAME FROM THEIR TRIBAL FACES. BUT GOD WHO DOES NOT LIKE TRIBALISM HAS ALREADY SEEN THE PROBLEM AND HAS PREVENTED THIS MAN FROM WINNING. AND HE SHALL NEVER WIN.

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    • I cannot agree more.

      UPND has no choice but remain with HH, whether he loses or not.

      The reasons are as simple as you have put it.
      UPND knows that the support for UPND is tribe driven.

      Thus, they know that if the ever put someone from another tribe the loyal supporters will withdraw there support and that will be the end of UPND.

      On the other hand the know that replacing HH with another Tonga will make things plain for all to see the tribal force driving the party.

      Therefore, whether useful or not, just keep HH there and endure his lack of political leadership.

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    • But these PF kaponyas fear HH for sure.

      May be it is because PF and lungu had to use Violence, all of GRZ marchinary illigally that is ZP, ZAF , zambia army and ministers to campain, all that was in spite of blowing 10 billion US on development !!!. Wow.

      And lungu still had to steal votes. Wow wow.

      No wounder you guys are in awe of the great HH.

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    • @ 21.2 Spaka like lilo,

      Your conclusion is the most of all flawed thoughts I have encountered.

      PF supporters may wish to avoid and prevent HH and his noice from continuing it’s rhetoric. But that does not imply they fear HH.

      The fact that you avoid something does not imply you fear it.

      If you are a man and you avoid wearing a hip-star and a wig; it does not in any way mean that you fear the hip-star and wig. You simply avoid then because they will be weird on a man.

      In the same way PF supporters know that HH is not leadership material. He disqualified himself completely when he called on people to rise and fight.

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  18. HH has cast a spell and curse on his so called supporters that they can’t even realise they have been supporting a dictator and lower of elections for PAST 20 YEARS! How can one honestly support a perpetual lower for over 20 years and expect miracles? It’s lunacy at play in UPND and I can certainly predict that if H.E. President Lungu just focuses on improving the economy now and in the next 3 years, it will be disaster for UPND in 2021 believe me.

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    • But these PF kaponyas fear HH for sure.

      May be it is because PF and lungu had to use Violence, all of GRZ marchinary illigally that is ZP, ZAF , zambia army and ministers to campain, all that was in spite of blowing 10 billion US on development !!!. Wow.

      And lungu still had to steal votes. Wow wow.

      No wounder you guys are in awe of the great HH.

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    • @ 22.1 pakaa like lilo,

      Your conclusion is the most of all flawed thoughts I have encountered.

      PF supporters may wish to avoid and prevent HH and his noice from continuing it’s rhetoric. But that does not imply they fear HH.

      The fact that you avoid something does not imply you fear it.

      If you are a man and you avoid wearing a hip-star and a wig; it does not in any way mean that you fear the hip-star and wig. You simply avoid then because they will be weird on a man.

      In the same way PF supporters know that HH is not leadership material. He disqualified himself completely when he called on people to rise and fight.

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  19. The PF/MMD mariage of convenience borders on criminality and is short lived. With the UPND Petition at an advanced stage MMD is cared that the evil Alliance might collapse and MMD Ministers in the PF govt might lose their posts. MMD has just realised the implications of the Petition. The Petition is legal and was filed with Concourt and accepted. In terms of the Bill of Rights the Petitioners are entitled to be heard. Ba MMD/PF muyopa chani?# Let the Petition be heard. Period.

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    • @ zukas. DO NOT CHEAT YOURSELF. THERE IS NO COURT CASE IN ANY COURT CONCERNING THE PETITION. THE ONLY CASE TO BE HEARD IS WHETHER HH WAS DENIED HIS HUMAN RIGHT OR NOT. AND WHATEVER THE RULING IT CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

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  20. Ati die hard!! This is sheer Foolishness. These so called mmd guyz are just boot lickers seeking a job from chakolwa.But what you have to know is that HH will be president you like it or not. He is the only hope for this country. Viva HH.

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  21. @Chisenga. If the Court says the Petitioners have a Right to be heard then the Petition will be heard. This means whatever happened after the Petition was filed at Concourt is Null and Void. It will mean that Zambia has no Legitimate President for now and while the Petition is being heard Lungu in terms of the Law will have to handover power to the Speaker of Parliament. The President Elect will be declared by the Court Hearing the Petition after weighing the evidence presented by parties to the Court during Trial. The Petitioners have overwhelming evidence to show that HH won the Election outright. Legally Lungu has a very weak case in Court. This is not about PF Cadreism. Its about Law.

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    • @Mweene. WHICH COURT ARE YOU REFERING TO? THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD IS TIED TO TIME FRAME. AND IN THIS CASE IT IS 14 DAYS. IT IS NOT AN OPEN-ENDED RIGHT TO BEHEAED ANYTIME. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO WISHFUL THINKING.

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    • By the way, the court CAN NOT OR WILL NOT declare the winner of the elections. You HH followers are disappointingly naive. Where in an election petition(any election MP, councilor), have you seen the court declaring a winner? What the court will do is determine the whether the winner won legitimately or not. If yes, the election will be upheld. If not, the election will be nullified paving way for new elections.
      Therefore, even if the petition was heard, it was not going to be the court to declare HH president NO! If the court had found flaws in the election of president Lungu, it would have ordered a re-election and NOT HH president. Please imwe bantu its like HH has brain washed all of you..

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    Zambia ‘s constitution provides that presidential poll results and others have to be through the relevant courts and not on the streets. That is what HH and UPND are doing. The criminals are the courts which are refusing to hear their petition to come up with a ruling whether or not evidence already advanced to the court proves HH or ECL won the Aug 2016 presidential poll.
    You want evidence of poll rigging; PF stole 8 000 votes in Lundanzi, 33,000 votes in Chitulika Polling station, 70,000 votes in Lusaka, 1,500,000 votes on the Copperbelt, etc. HH was robbed of these votes. This was clear landslide victory for him. Ask Ms Isaac. Justice Chulu, Akufuna, criminal Chavula why they are not at ECZ now?

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    • Everybody will be called criminal by the UPND cadres, including God who allowed this to happen. You are truly mad cretins!

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  23. @Davies tobeg. AM SURE YOU ONLY TOOK LESS THAN THREE MINUTES TO TABULATE YOUR FIGURES. MY QUESTION IS, IF UPND LAWYERS BELIEVED YOUR FIGURES WHY DID THEY REFUSE TO USE YOUR FIGURES TO ADVANCE THEIR CASE? IT TOOK THEM OVER 13 DAYS AND STILL FAILED TO TABULATE YOUR FIGURES. THE REASON IS SIMPLE. THEY WERE TOO CLEVER. THEY KNEW THAT THOSE FIGURES ARE GROUNDLESS. IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF CHITULIKA THIS, MAUREEN THAT ETC….

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  24. @Chisenga.How many times are u going to be told that Concourt legally cannot dismiss a Presidential Petition becoz it has no powers to do so and there is no law enabling it to dismiss the Petition?Concourt can only hear the Petition and then Validate the Election of the President Elect or Nullify the same. Concourt did neither. Concourt claims to have dismissed the Petition becoz the 14 days lapsed. In terms of the law and practice the Courts in Zambia use 14 working days. 14 working days expired on 8th Sept and Concourt claims to have dismissed the Petition on 5th Sept thru a Minority decision while the Majority decision to hear the Petition was made on 2nd Sept. The Majority decision had ruled that there would be a Petition Hearing beginning 5th Sept and ending 8th Sept. This particular…

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    • @Mwase YOU ARE FREE TO LIVE IN THAT PARADISE. WHY DONT YOU WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOUR FOLLOWERS? PLEASE DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE.YOUR GOD HH DECIDED NOT TO SPEAK FOR 14 DAYS. WHAT NEW THING DO YOU THINK HE HAS NOW CONCOCTED? MULE UMFWILAKO ABANTU ULUSE. YOU CANNOT CHOOSE TO MISLEAD PEOPLE LIKE THAT. IN NWP MANY VILLAGERS WERE TOLD THAT IN NOVEMBER, ECL WILL BE REMOVED FROM POWER AND HH WILL TAKE HIS PLACE. THE SAME REASONS YOU ARE TELLING US WERE ADVANCED. THEN THEY CHANGED TO DECEMBER, THEN TO JANUARY NOW MARCH BLAH..BLAH. ZAMBIA HAS A PRESIDENT WHO WON IN 6.5 PROVINCES. YOUR SO CALLED PETITION IS JUST A FIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION. SMELL THE COFFEE AND MOVE ON. SAVE YOURSELF THE HEART ACHES.

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    • No one dismissed it, it simply expired on 5th Sept. And all the judges did was to announce that the case had expired.

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  25. Even the chief justice refused to inaugurate lungu at his fake swarring in. He was Shworn in by a Clark.

    Can the kaponyas deny this ?

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  26. For me, I will make things very plain.
    I will always point out clearly where it matters.
    UPND’s future is hanging in a balance.
    It looks like HH is the only person who will guarantee that UPND has some MPs.

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  27. The people of Southern Africa, have been following HH’s primitive brand of politics with dismay for his arrogance not to accept the Election defeat. Certainly not all Tongas are as dull as the current crop of UPND leadership. We have some of the best intellectuals, Lawyers, Professors, Medical Doctors, Economists, Scientists among the Tongas. However, historians may be prompted to record negative attributes about the defective mental states on ALL the Tongas because of the childish behavior as displayed by HH, Mwiimbu etc. A pack of UPP insiders (GBM, N. Mumba, C. Kambwili, Sav. Chishimba, Linda Kasonde) are also sending wrong signals into the archives of history to the effect that All Bembas are die hard tribalists too.

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  28. Why are PF and MMD Cadres panicking over the UPND Petition as if Lungu did not win the 2016 Presidential Elections? Both PF and MMD say Lungu won so they should just bring the evidence to Court and shame the UPND Losers. Why is Lungu afraid to vindicate himself in Court. Lungu is perceived as a Vote Thief so why doesn’t he clear his name in Court instead of blocking the Petition? The Guilty are very…very afraid. # Let the Petition be Heard.

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    • There no panic at all

      People just want to make sure that toxin is cleaned every time it appears.

      Even you when you see dirty and bad smell in your home, the normal way is for you to quickly clean it up.

      Do you think taking a quick action to clean up dirt or toxin is panic?
      Would you sit there comfortably resting while you how is smelling.

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  29. The guilty are afraid. That is why PF government officials, the cadres and other apologists on this forum are having endless nightmares about HH. They talk, eat, dream and hallucinate about HH everyday. He is their shadow, the wind that blows through their office and home windows everyday. They can’t get rid of him in-spite of their exorcist attempts. BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID.

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  30. One thing is 100% evident. If it was not for PF rank and file and theirs hungry unprincipled surrogates, by now HH and Petition will be long forgotten.
    Instead of delivering on election promises and solving deepening economical, fiscal and financial crisis (never mind necessary up-dating of substantial number of Laws), this bunch of intellectual and moral failures are wasting time in arguing about HH and third term.

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  31. Hard facts
    1.Chavula in Ecz server room
    2.Chitulika constituency
    3.Lundazi votes 30pin?
    4.No Gen12
    5.8000 votes wrongly awarded by Chulu later reduced by Ecz
    6.Sworn in by registrar
    7.Petition not heard
    8.Concourt cadres mixed rulings one yes petition will be heard later changed to be thrown out
    9.Speaker should have acted
    10.Up to now the proper results are still a secret constitunecy wise….include non existent chitulika and lundazi more voters than registered.
    If these issues need to be cleared before anything else as at now we dont know who won election

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    • @Kasekela mulenga. UPND LAWYERS REFUSED TO USE YOUR TABLE OF SO CALLED “HARD FACTS” BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE GROUNLEDSSLY CONCOCTED FALSE STORIES WHICH COULD NOT STAND IN A COURT OF LAW. JUST SMELL THE COFFEE AND MOVE ON. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE OF HEART ACHES.

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    • @Kasekela mulenga. UPND LAWYERS REFUSED TO USE YOUR TABLE OF SO CALLED “HARD FACTS” BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE GROUNDLEDSSLY CONCOCTED FALSE STORIES WHICH COULD NOT STAND IN A COURT OF LAW. JUST SMELL THE COFFEE AND MOVE ON. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE OF HEART ACHES.

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    • @Kasekela mulenga. UPND LAWYERS REFUSED TO USE YOUR TABLE OF SO CALLED “HARD FACTS” BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE GROUNDLEDSSLY CONCOCTED FALSE STORIES WHICH COULD NOT STAND IN A COURT OF LAW. JUST SMELL THE COFFEE AND MOVE ON. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE OF HEART ACHES.

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    • @Kasekela mulenga. UPND LAWYERS REFUSED TO USE YOUR TABLE OF SO CALLED “HARD FACTS” BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE GROUNDLEDSSLY CONCOCTED FALSE STORIES WHICH COULD NOT STAND IN A COURT OF LAW. JUST SMELL THE COFFEE AND MOVE ON. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE OF HEART ACHES.

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    • @Kasekela mulenga. UPND LAWYERS REFUSED TO USE YOUR TABLE OF SO CALLED “HARD FACTS” BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE GROUNDLEDSSLY CONCOCTED FALSE STORIES WHICH COULD NOT STAND IN A COURT OF LAW. JUST SMELL THE COFFEE AND MOVE ON. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE OF HEART ACHES.

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    • @Kasekela mulenga. UPND LAWYERS REFUSED TO USE YOUR TABLE OF SO CALLED “HARD FACTS” BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE GROUNDLEDSSLY CONCOCTED FALSE STORIES WHICH COULD NOT STAND IN A COURT OF LAW. JUST SMELL THE COFFEE AND MOVE ON. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE OF HEART ACHES.

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    • if these are your so called hard facts then UNPD is going nowhere with this petition.

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  32. Let lungu do the honorable thing he is devoid of ideas let him step down the stampede at the Oydc proves that he had messed economy mealie meal is expensive due to lack of economic skills by his party.Let the man who won the election take the reigns ECL is like an unlucky man as his name chagwa everything he touches just falls.The dove fell,kwacha is down, what more proof does he need God is not happy with what he did….. Army worms and locusts are like the plagues experienced by pharaoh when God told him but refused to listen this Christian nation thing is serious repent for your own well being.

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  33. @Kasekala Mulenga. Your comment is quite right. The Petitioners would win this Petition easily in an Independent Court. The “dismissal” of the Petition by Concourt is invalid becoz its not backed by law in terms of the Zambian Constitution. Concourt has No powers and enabling law to dismiss the Petition. So the so called dismissal is null and void. The 14 day technicality does not hold in practice and at law. So the Reason given for the wrongful dismissal is also Null and Void. The Refusal by Lungu to handover power to the Speaker of Parliament was a grave error by Lungu. Therefore the Petition was Not Heard and it must be heard and determined by an Independent Tribunal which will have No difficulty in Ruling that Lungu was Not Democratically,Legally and Constitutionally elected…

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    • No one dismissed the petition.

      It just expired.

      If anything, it is HH who expired his own petition using preliminaries as a delay tactic

      I don’t know what was in HH’s mind when he was playing the delay tactics.

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  34. I feel for the many hearts in upnd ukula samfula fye in every election.Spare your hearts from heart aches.To think that election of president Lungu will be nullified is indeed an ILLUSION and one thing is that top leaders in upnd know very well that it is an exercise in futility but they keep on giving their members false hope ukula kalifya fye ama members imitima.PLIZ WAKE UP FROM SLUMBER UPND MEMBERS!

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  35. Mr Mulenga don’t say this country is governed by the order of laws. My brother even me who is non partisan can tell that there is NO order of law which being followed in Zambia. So many things are happening wrongly especially in the filling party and no law is being followed. Let UPND supporters also express their views.They are also Zambians.
    Mr Mwila said something that could have coated his job but nothing has happened.
    The minister of Agriculture has been involved in maize scandal, but nothing has happened.
    Be careful the way you suggest issues to people, not everyone is dull. All this will cost your performance in 2021 election.

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  36. According to the posts above it looks like HH will someday rule the country called Zambia like Sata did before everyone said Sata will never rule, why gang up and try to remove him from the UPND Presidency if he is not a factor.

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  37. Don.t compare under five to MC. How many posts did MC hold in the govt? MC started from a kaponya to where he became but what of HH straight from stealing our money to a party leader that is why he is so ignorant of how everything works and it will take decades for him to win elections.

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  38. I knw mulenga is just hungry and wants to capitalise on his cheap message the fact is hh won iwe ka mulenga. Dirty politician. HH is a true leader by far than your chakolwa.

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  39. I wonder whether UPND supporters have ever asked HH what was in his mind when he was generating those preliminaries as a delay tactic?

    Or do these UPND supporters assume that HH had no idea what the constitution says regarding his petition in terms of timeframe?

    Or, did UPND think they were fixing ECL by willingly expecting the petition?

    Now, Mumbi used the word ‘disingeneous’ when referring to HH’s behaviour, while Amos used the term delusion when referring to the same man.

    Do you think they were wrong or correct? Give reasons for yiur arguments.

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    • Correction…

      Or, did UPND think they were fixing ECL by willingly expiring the petition?

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  40. Who won the election with Chavula in server room? Chingola, lundazi constituencies’ votes reduced for Chagwa and not sworn in normally why? Petition must be heard.. Don’t just be unsolicited spokespersons after bribes with a few tokens.

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    • That is a very nice way of keeping your state of mind until 2021, when ECL is sworn in once.

      You can then modify your state of mind once more based on the parameters that will be prevailing at the time till 2026.

      In 2026, try HH again on UPND ticket.

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  41. Kasekela mulenga, the answer is simple, do you need to go to school to know who won the elections? The person who is ruling Zambia now won the election – ECL

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  42. what tribe is Chavula and who sent him to go there was it for money or not? What do you think can ECL do that knowing that he had already won.

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  43. HH tact’s were for him to convince or to find witnesses who can liar for him but unfortunately the mission proved to be a witch-hunt.

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  44. He is SO yesterday. Wonder when UPND members will wake up to that fact and pick a smart shooter for Leadership. There is much Talent in that party.

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