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Fube’s LAZ impeachment is partisan it should be condmned-Miyanda

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Bregedier General Godfrey Miyanda
Brigadier General Godfrey Miyanda

STATEMENT ON THE FUBE IMPEACHMENT PLOT!

[By Brig Gen Godfrey Miyanda – 28th April 2017]

I am not a lawyer and neither am I a member of the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ). But I am a Zambian and I am convinced that part of the mandate of LAZ is to protect the public interest, my interest and that of other citizens. Thus no public laws should be introduced or made after threats by politicians in positions of influence such as leaders of a party in Government. The Fube Impeachment scheme is a partisan ploy beyond merely impeaching the LAZ Executive. It has been exposed by none other than Advocate Fube himself. It should be condemned by all right-thinking Zambians.

The legal profession is supposed to be a noble one, comprising men and women of honour and integrity. In Zambia today many, if not, all institutions of governance have been compromised. I gave the Advocate benefit of doubt when he first raised the issue. If there was any modicum of credibility in Advocate Fube’s crusade when it was first mooted, this has now petered out after his unguarded revelation that Big Brother is actually breathing down his neck. The revelation confirms that the allegations against the Linda Kasonde LAZ Executive are a mere excuse to cover up the ill-conceived scheme by its sponsors to subvert our laws for ulterior long-range plans. Forget everything about the alleged breaches by LAZ President Linda Kasonde and her executive, true or not. But focus on the reason given by the Advocate for seeking to impeach the LAZ executive: he revealed that powerful politicians (obviously the PF leadership) have threatened that if Kasonde and LAZ are not impeached they will pass a Bill in Parliament to dissolve LAZ!

According to Advocate Fube’s declaration, it is ‘better to sacrifice Linda Kasonde’ to spare LAZ from the Big Brother’s wrath. This is an ominous statement which is worrisome. So Linda Kasonde is the sacrificial lamb for them to survive and gain control of all institutions in the country. But would you really believe that Advocate Fube, who has reminded his audience of his more than 30 years at the Bar, would be so timid as to dishonour his oath solemn of an advocate and succumb to such threats, intimidation and blackmail, just so that those threatening can subvert our laws in order to satisfy their thirst for power? Far from it. Soon these dark shadows will become physical to execute the sacrifice. Some of their followers have already demonstrated this by raiding the LAZ offices yet there was nothing heard from Mr Fube and his team!

Zambians must reject any “fine tuning” of our laws. Our laws should be developed without threats, intimidation or blackmail. I urge the LAZ members to nip in the bud this chicanery and demonstrate that they deserve our respect as noble men and women of integrity. For how shall we respect the opinions of 10 or more disparate law associations, one from each province, on important contentious national issues?

If the lawyers attending the LAZ Extra Ordinary meeting espouse the idea of protecting the public interest, they must see through the scheme by Advocate Fube and his collaborators and reject it outrightly.

GODFREY MIYANDA,

BRIGADIER GENERAL,

A CONCERNED ZAMBIAN

[27TH APRIL 2917]

70 COMMENTS

    • I gather what Fube is saying to Linda Kasonde and her executive is that they should choose to die by being pushed off a very tall or be shot? General Miyanda you are not a lawyer but you do often exhibit symptoms of legal ‘quackery’.

    • @Mushota Perhaps your youth is exposed but I will not take advantage of that fact! This General who was in the same class with many world leaders who have been Heads of State and gone through even the Royal Military Academy – Sandhurst! Anyway, to cut a long story short, this same general you belittle firstly (is older than your father), was detained and charged with treason and he won the case without a single lawyer against a KK government (in a one-party government environment; was acquitted of all charges! If you read the Cambridge Law Reports, you will get a full account! Respect him for God’s sake! Bwe kapuba!

    • @ Mushota can you please improve your English. Ati “…..those dogs that barks…” Please go back to school and learn some good English. You are embarrassing yourself.

    • @mushota, you are an upstart and you insult a man old enough to be your father. You have started something you never knew how to stop. Miyanda was an officer when your mother was wiping your wet nose. You are behaving like a mongrel on heat.

    • I wholeheartedly apologies to the General.

      I should have chosen my words more carefully. I hope he finds it within him to forgive me

      Thanks

      BB2014,2016

    • FBK is only trying to use the back door into the limelight of Pf for his on personal gain after being sidelined for sometime now. Too sad lot I’d Zambian politicians are in this business for their bellies only and is the case for FBK in this matter.

    • @Mushota, you are just a loose canon, who is clueless. you are just writing comments to themes you do not understand. Every reasonable blogger here knows who General Miyanda is, although one would disagree with his views, it’s normal, he simply doesn’t deserve to be belittled by a loose canon like you.
      Anyway, I commend you for being quick to apologise!!
      In every contribution you make, you are exposing yourself, I hope your Fanclub here are now realising, what type of a person you are and that your comments are just intended to gain attention. Think before you comment !!! Analyse issues before you comment !!!

    • Fube is right.

      M’membe and Mtembo Nchito are controlling Linda, and a few if her colleagues in the LAZ executive are compromised.

      It is very clear from the behaviour of LAZ in the past.

      Last year during the presidential petition they wanted to join the case in the name of friends of the court.

      But how does LAZ join the case as Judges, are they?

      So the court refused to grant, because there is no such privilege as “friends of the court” in LAZ Act.

      Did they think the judges on their own were incapable of handling the matter? Did judges ask for LAZ assistance?

      Then afterwards they condemn the judges for ending at 14 days when the judges followed the constitution.

      So LAZ wanted to flout the Zambian constitution, in favour of the UPND.

    • @ Mushota (1.6), thats what I consider being brave and great! A mistake acknowledged and corrected makes one soar above even those that choose to insult over a mistake made!

      It worries me a lot when insulting language takes precedence over reason. I wish to believe those who mostly choose unbecoming language either have challenges with intelligent discourse or fell short at working hard to benefit from education. We all seem to either choose to use emotion or ignorance on topics we hardly understand than best to leave it to those with some ideas that could help those of us short on the subject matter learn a thing or two.

      By the way Mushota BB2014, 2016 of late it seems you want to spoil your earned title by hastily posting your comments minus editing!

  1. General Miyanda you have a right to say what you are saying but you do not seem to understand the intricacy within the Laws association. You may not even understand the role of the association. But you seem to be partisan yourself. Partisan to the opposite of what you accuse KBF to be. We are glad that after your treason case you have seen sense in dialogue rather than the in gun. You had a very good concept for development “Village Concept”but you failed to sell it part of the reason is that you lack the ability to communicate the issues and in some cases you do not seem to understand your own reasoning.

    • 2 @Kev Munde: TOPIC is Impeachment of LAZ Executive. Mr Fube’s sponsors sent him to secure an impeachment or else LAZ will be dissolved; not a rumour, I heard him speak on Diamond TV live and 5 FM Radio. Is this rocket science for me NOT to understand? There is a ‘gun’ pointed at LAZ members’ heads to impeach or be dissolved. What is intricate about intimidation, threats and blackmail? As citizens we shall be affected by such a dishonest precedent. First it was CDF; after LAZ what next? Prevention is better than cure.

  2. With due respect Gen Miyandas ridicule of Fubes call for impeachment is ill advised and partisan to be the least. This time Gen Miyanda is the one advancing his partisan views on the matter. We know that Gen. is everything anti PF even before he utters any words on the matter. So he is the least person to advise Zambians on partisan or impartial behavior. He starts off saying he gave Fube benefit of doubt earlier and ends by saying the reasons he has advanced for the impeachment call mere excuses. The bottom line is these reasons are valid. Linda and his executive silent and failure to condemn HH when he attacked the Judiciary and her subsequent selected,biased and unilateral ( without consultation as per LAZ own constitution) decisons condemning the Judiciary on various National Matter…

    • 4@Dayuk: 1. I have NOT ridiculed Mr Fube but have commented on his revelation of the intimidatory which I heard live on Diamond TV and 5FM radio. He has conveyed it to the delegates publicly and shud be impeached himself BEFORE he presents his motion – he who comes to equity must come with clean hands. 2. I am NOT anti-PF but against abuse of the Constitution and other law E.G. I was one of the opposition leaders who challenged late Pres Sata who attempted to remove 3 judges in breach of Constitution – we succeeded. 3. I have NOT discussed the merits of Fube’s allegations as these are for the LAZ delegates///

  3. General Miyanda, Your assertion that the law association can only be right if it operates like an opposition party like your is the greatest mistake you can make. The law association is not a political party but interprets the law. Their existence is embedded in explaining and interpreting the law and not behaving like an opposition. For Soldiers like yourself Mr Miyanda you would do well to understand that the law association is supposed to be a beacon of at Law, that explains the law and not singing choruses of opposition parties like yours. This explains why the Zambian laymen like yourself and myself do not understand the basics of the law because associations like the one you are defending should be explaining interpreting the law to you and me. But alas their job is has become a…

    • 5@Kev Munde: please publish evidence of when and where I ” asserted that the law association can only be right if it operates like an opposition party”? Please urgently respond with the facts including dates and time and medium of my communication. President Trump would call this FAKE NEWS. If you don’t publish I shall call it lies as your allegation is intended to give credibility to a weak or non-argument. Am waiting///

  4. … their job has become a broadcast site for political parties speeches, Mr Miyanda ever wondered why Village concept failed lamentably? . For Soldiers like yourself Mr Miyanda you would do well to understand that the law association is supposed to be a beacon of at Law, that explains the law and not singing choruses of opposition parties like yours. This explains why the Zambian laymen like yourself and myself do not understand the basics of the law because associations like the one you are defending should be explaining interpreting the law to you and me. But alas their job is has become a broadcast site for political parties speeches, Mr Miyanda ever wondered why Village concept failed lamentably?

    • 2, 5 and 6 @Kev Munde: TOPIC is Impeachment of LAZ. To impeach is to charge with a crime. He who comes to equity must come with clean hands. Mr Fube was sent by influential politicians to ensure that impeachment of LAZ executive or be dissolved by his sponsors. Is this Rocket Science for me NOT to understand? I heard Mr Fube speak live on Diamond TV and 5FM Radio. What is so intricate about intimidation, threats and blackmail? This issue is so serious it goes beyond LAZ members. Prevention is better than cure.

    • Indeed @ Kiev Munde pivoting from “Impeachment of LAZ” to “Village Concept” makes me wonder why bother enter a discussion when yours is itching for a topic that is not at hand!

  5. You are no longer relevant. Your approach to issues is not worth inviting. Let others with newer approaches handle issues. Stop forcing us to recognise you. We are trying to look far away from you. She is being partisan and she is no longer fit to run anything. She is no longer moving with the crowd, she has lost her vision.

  6. Am not a lawyer but l accidentally happen to listen to the radio programme which featured KBF while driving my car .
    The facts that were brought out by KBF regarding the current LAZ COUNCIL ,which prompted the impeachment of Kasonde actually makes a lot of sense.
    LAZ is supposed to be highly proffessional in the discharge of it its duties.
    What l got from the radio programme definitely amounts to serious proffessional misconduct and certainly agree with the motion.
    The motion in my opinion if for the good of LAZ ‘s future relevance in our country.
    I do have a lot of respect for General Miyanda but l think he has to be more objective on this one.
    I beg to differ with you Sir on this one.

  7. With all Due Respect General, I have read FUbes interview again and it sounds from his argument, that LAZ have thrown away their neutrality. I’ve extracted key points from his interview which require proper rebuttal namely:
    1. LAZ has failed to remain neutral on key national issues
    2. the Council showed a lot of bias in handling such as the election petition case and the referendum vote.
    3. “Last year during the petition, the Constitutional Court threw out the case because the 14 days period had run out. The LAZ Council was quick to issue a statement that the UPND must have been heard and by doing that, they were basically issuing a challenge to the Judiciary,”
    4. “On the issue of the referendum, without consulting the members, LAZ took a stand that we should vote No. Looking at the…

  8. 4. “On the issue of the referendum, without consulting the members, LAZ took a stand that we should vote No. Looking at the divisive nature of the referendum debate, I think we should have maintained neutrality as LAZ.”
    5. streaming Live of the UPND press conference via the LAZ Facebook page, who does that?
    6. “HH outside court, he calls the Judges Judas Iscariots and he says these are people not worth the gowns and wigs they wear and we keep quiet, every Judge is a Lawyer by training and if they are going to be insulted and we keep quiet, we say that is wrong.

  9. 7. Take the case of the Post Newspaper, they were found liable by the Supreme Court, the Council took a certain position without consulting their members and they said they were fighting for constitutional rights for Fred M’membe. What constitutional rights and you have been found guilty? You can never benefit from an illegality and if some people were sleeping when they were teaching that principle of law, then I am sorry.”
    8. “The President of LAZ swore an affidavit attempting to join the Association to the Post Newspapers proceedings alleging that the Judge Sunday Nkonde was biased and compromised, with no evidence, who speaks like that? Who are you representing? Again insulting the Judiciary.

  10. Everything and everyone is partisan in Zambia. Even the writer of this article is partisan. What was going to say if the call was made Jack Mwiimbu? Zero going by his silence when HH insulted all judges in Zambia. Why didn’t he correct him. KBF is only expressing his sentiments just as others are free to condemn Lungu and his government.

  11. The madness in this country is appalling to say the least – please discuss issues raised by General Miyanda, don’t discuss General Miyanda

    • It seems you are the only one suffering from a mental disorder. Most debaters above are discussing the points raised by Gen. Miyanda vis-a vis those raised by KBF.
      I also listened to KBFs’ Hot FM interview on the radio while driving and as far as I am concerned, KBF raised very pertinent points why The Linda Kasonde LAZ council must be impeached. The LAZ council is functioning as if it was a wing of the opposition and is throwing all profession duty for which it was created to the wind.
      KBF raised a wide range of biase by LAZ on issues such as the UPND presidential petition, the divisive referendum, HH calling judges Judas Iscariot, streaming Live of the UPND press conference, joining LAZ to Fred M’membes’ court case and LAZ calling Judge Nkonde biased without evidence.
      These are…

    • These are issues that can make even a layman at law frown as long as they have the basic knowledge of why the LAZ was formed by an Act of parliament. On the other side the General simply states that KBF is PF and carrying out the bidding of the PF leadership. This is not a valid point why pertinent issues raised by a lawyer concerned about the functioning of the association should be ignored.
      Please learn to read than speak from without!

  12. @Ba Folosho – that is the General’s point. That despite all these lapses, its not for the President and his party to spearhead the impeachment of the LAZ Council. The fact that KBF has owned up to the fact that he is doing this because the powers that be want him to, is all kinds of shady. In case you have not read it, there is another article that talks about the 1999 LAZ Council inviting the late Anderson Mazoka to speak at their gala. LAZ members protested this but nobody called for the Council’s impeachment. And guess who was part of that LAZ Council in 1999, President Lungu. So if he supported divergent views then, what’s wrong now?

    • @MyZambia good point about…..And guess who was part of that LAZ Council in 1999, President Lungu. They forget conveniently!Even the party he started with!

  13. LAZ HAS LAWS GUIDING ITS MEMBERS… WAS FUBE RIGHT TO TALK TO PRESS. AS A LAWYER WHEN YOUR CLIENT HAS AN ISSUE WITH SOMEONE, DOES THE LAWYER RUSH TO THE PRESS? HE GOES TO COURT OR LAZ DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE WHERE THE OTHER PARTY IS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY? WHY ARE SENOR LAWYERS NOT TALKING? BECAUSE THEY KNOW PROFFESSIONAL ETHCS WHEN DEALING WITH FELLOW LAWYERS….

  14. Every article that gen post lacks deeper research and logic. Am sorry I don’t him serious. This man is his own opposition.

    • friends you are accusing the Gen articles of lacking “deeper research and logic” yet your comment with just a few words lacks cohesion due to simple gramatic errors… if you can check grammar how can you check research depth and logic for a man who clearly has done research on the topic at hand?

  15. ‘If the PF does to you what the UNIP or MMD governments did to you, then you must do to the PF what you did to the previous governments’ .
    I urge Lawyers “to do the right thing” at the upcoming no-confidence vote in Mrs Linda Kasonde.
    Remember, DPP , ZRA musiska, Musa Mwenye, Rose Wandi, Libongani, Mwanamwalye, General Kanene, Chanda Chimba,

  16. What is it with Bembas and wrong doing? Excuse my supposedly tribalistic question but it seems all the people scheming evil in Zambia are Bemba or from proxy tribes and they have no moral concious. Misho, Kingsley Chanda, Amos Chanda. Good Bembas its time to stand up and do not let these jackals and hyenas soil your standing

  17. I am no lawyer but the Linda Kasonde LAZ executive has been a great embarrassment to the Zambian law profession. I have often read statements by Linda which left me thinking- “how on earth did she even become LAZ President!!!” Believing a LAZ president somehow represents the very best of our Lawyers, I began to wonder whether this is the shallow standard of lawyers Zambia is now producing. KBF calls it immaturity but i honestly think it’s a combination of foolishness and arrogance. PLEASE SAVE LAZ FROM THE JOKERS WHO ARE BEING REMOTE CONTROLLED BY NARCISSISTIC EXTERNAL FORCES. As for Ba general, lets deal with facts on the table and not try to run away from the real issue. KBF is a lawyer and paid up member of LAZ and will be a disappointment if he fails to point out wrongs in LAZ…

    • 20@Mauden Shula: facts on the table are for LAZ members to judge as impeachment is a charge of committing a crime under the LAZ statute. But first, paid up or not, Advocate Fube must be quizzed to disclose who sent him to deliver the threats against members/voters. 30 years at the Bar and he is afraid of protecting his Association from ghost delegates! Intimidation and threats shud be on the table as a Preliminary Issue. He shud not organise his cadres to threaten delegates///

  18. Kev Munde you sound like a wolf in sheep skin. Your critic over General Miyanda is heard and appreciate your views. In the same vain you claim that one of LAZ’s is to interpret the laws of the land to ordinary people like you and Miyanda. Granted, however, you do not state how LAZ can achieve that objective given the current atmosphere in which for the first time LAZ has been threatened by the government machinery that is expected to assist in advancing the effectiveness of Zambian laws. Remember Mr Davis Chama (PF Sec General) declared that from the day Chama warned LAZ, it would be treated as an enemy of the state. Fube is merely following up Chama’s resolve to exterminate LAZ. Facts can be subversive things.

  19. I can’t believe the comments here by the PF blind followers. The General has raised valid points but your bias is making you deaf to the truth. You say LAZ’s job is to interprete laws and be neutral. How possible is this? As part of interpreting a law (eg in favour of the opposition) inevitably they cannot be neutral. Think for once you PF buffoons!

    • So when people talk about what you don’t understand, you call them blind?

      Should they go ahead and call you blind for not agreeing with them?

      I think we can manage to carryout a healthy debate without being primitive – where we think we have the right pisition and we have come to convince (or convict) others to follow our position which is the right one. Very primitive way of looking at public matters.

  20. That LAZ has lost direction is very clear to all objective observers. However, KBF’s needless allusion to politicians simply served to give partisan critics a lifeline to voice out against his otherwise overwhelmingly valid arguments in support of the impeachment motion!

  21. I HAVE ALWAYS DOUBTED THE COMMENTS OF GENERAL MIYANDA. KBF STARTED BY GIVING THE BACKGROUND. HE GAVE REASONS WHY LINDA IS NOT FIT TO OCCUPY THAT POSITION. AND THE POINTS WERE VALID. SHE HAS BEEN PARTISAN AND IT IS CLEAR. BUT BA GENERAL JUST PICKS A SMALL POINT OUT OF ALL THAT KBF SAID AND HE WANTS TO MAKE A STORM ON A TABLE-SPOON. THE MEMBERS OF LAZ WILL DECIDE, NOT MIYANDA AND NOT EVEN KBF HIMSELF. THATS WHY KBF IS CALLING UPON LAZ TO MAKE THE DECISION

    • 24@ Chisenga: it is NOT LAZ who will decide; it will depend on the effect of the intimidation and threats. LAZ members must stand up to whoever is the manufacturer of the blackmail and send Advocate Fube back to sender. It is better they go and abuse Parliament so we can have an actual record of their ill intentions///

  22. ANY ONE WHO WILL GO FOR KELVIN FUBE’S IDEAR IS NOT A WISE LAWYER. HOW CAN YOUR FELLOW LAWYER INSIGHT YOU AS THOUGH YOUR REASONING IS DULL? I DO NOT KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING. WHAT HAS LINDA DONE TO YOU? THIS IS NOW A FULL TIME DICTATORSHIP AND WE ARE DOOMED.
    PLEASE ALL WISE SC MUST PROTEST AND CLOSE THIS FUBEFUBE ( MIST) TO INFLUENCE YOUR WISDOM TO CONFUSION. REMEMBER THE PAST HISTORY THAT IT WAS KBF WHO BROUGHT PF INTO DISRUPT BY BRINGING IN LUNGU WHO IS NOW A DICTATOR AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT FUBE IS TOGETHER WITH LUNGU TO BRING THIS COUNTRY INTO ANARCHY . THIS ZAMBIA IS NOT FUBE AND LUNGU BUT FOR ZAMBIANS.

  23. I don’t always agree with Miyanda but on this score I fully agree with him. Fube or whatever the Katangese calls himself especially when he is being Lungu’s surrogate, is a lumpen of the worst order. He is a spineless rabid jackal that needs to be shot dead. They’ll remember these institutions one day once they are gone in much the reverse way the Public Order Act came back to haunt Miyanda after he re enActed the vile law.

  24. The LAZ’s role is not to be neutral, it’s to interprate the law and ensure that it’s application is fair and justified. We have clearly seen the case of Treason slapped on HH for a simple traffic violation even when he is not the one who was driving, or the case of Zulu shooting at Kavindele’s sons and nothing happening to him. Now, do we expect the LAZ to remain neutral when only some chosen people are free to break the law as they wish and others are victimized unnecessarily? Where is the principle of equity for everyone before the law?

  25. What I suspect is that Kasonde refused to sleep with Fube because “kwena Fube ubwamba tafwima, buli ndwiiii!”. And she did well to decline because I hear the guy has HIV and he is spreading it like no man’s business. Akadoyo nomba kali mu kalukobo, ubunangwa over over ba Fube fimo fimo!

  26. It is extremely sad (and frightening) that people seek to comment on issues of significant public importance for purely partisan motivations and from a position of ignorance. There are two issues that need to be underscored. First, the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) is mandated by law to advance the public interest. Section 4 of the Law Association of Zambia Act 9which establishes LAZ) pertinently provides: “The objects for which the Association is established are – (a) to further the development of law as an instrument of social order and social justice and as an essential element in the growth of society; (b) to provide a means by which all lawyers, whatever their particular field of activity, can participate together fully and effectively in the development of society and its…

  27. It is extremely sad (and frightening) that people seek to comment on issues of significant public importance for purely partisan motivations and from a position of ignorance. There are two issues that need to be underscored. First, the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) is mandated by law to advance the public interest. The Law Association of Zambia Act (the law under which LAZ is established) pertinently provides in section 4: “The objects for which the Association is established are – (a) to further the development of law as an instrument of social order and social justice and as an essential element in the growth of society; (b) to provide a means by which all lawyers, whatever their particular field of activity, can participate together fully and effectively in the development of society…

  28. General,

    But LAZ executive is already partisan so why don’t you condemn the partisan nature of LAZ executive, instead you condemn the peachment motion?

    • Fube is right.

      M’membe and Mtembo Nchito are controlling Linda, and a few if her colleagues in the LAZ executive are compromised.

      It is very clear from the behaviour of LAZ in the past.

      Last year during the presidential petition they wanted to join the case in the name of friends of the court.

      But how does LAZ join the case as Judges, are they?

      So the court refused to grant, because there is no such privilege as “friends of the court” in LAZ Act.

      Did they think the judges on their own were incapable of handling the matter? Did judges ask for LAZ assistance?

      Then afterwards they condemn the judges for ending at 14 days when the judges followed the constitution.

      So LAZ wanted to flout the Zambian constitution, in favour of the UPND.

    • Look General,

      The same way you say the impeachment motion is partisan and should not be tolerated, is the same way others say LAZ executive is partisan and should not be allowed to continue in office.

      So if you understand and accept democracy, you will realise that Fube is simply enjoying his democratic right which you will be wrong to try and stop.

      In fact Fube is a member of LAZ, so ha has a right to contribute and/or initiate proceeding regarding LAZ administration. You are not!

    • 33@Advice:
      1. Threats to dissolve LAZ by ghost delegates takes motion beyond LAZ and offends LAZ mandate to protect the public interest. I am part of the public, drawing attention to Advocate Fube’s misconduct of conveying to LAZ members; he shud himself be impeached before moving his motion and quizzed to disclose who has sent him to threaten and blackmail members/voters!. 2. Agreed I am not a member hence why I am neither attending nor voting but raising alarm against potential abuse of the Constitution and other law.

  29. LAZ spoke against the one party state and FTJ’s corruption and third term bid.What is the difference now.They are speaking against injustice now just as they have done since their formation.
    General Miyanda is a 110% right.How can anyone be influenced by a common crook and party cadre.

  30. Even in a matter of a lousy election rigging lumpenizing intellectually challenged client money chewing failed lawyer moonlighting for president, Zambians can still manage to split themselves into two groups, for and against. It’s that bad, foolishness is so embedded in your psychic some of you can do with whole head transplants. Zanganu tuni mu toompolozi Mulimu mubupi wamina!

    • 35@Ngombala: Agreed. But if motion passes there will thereafter be 10 or more legal opinions, which opinions shall not be respected by the public. Intimidation, Threats and Blackmail are another form of rigging, otherwise known as Undue Influence on members who are the voters, published in advance of the debate and still subsisting unless the threats are purged!///

  31. 1. “The Fube Impeachment scheme is a partisan ploy beyond merely impeaching the LAZ Executive. It has been exposed by none other than Advocate Fube himself. It should be condemned by all right-thinking Zambians.”-LAZ IS AN ACT OF PARLIAMENT AND IF THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE A POLITICAL STANCE BY SUPPORTING THE OPPOSITION, THEN THEY WILL BE TREATED LIKE AN OPPOSITION PARTY AND PF IN MAJORITY IN PARLIAMENT WILL EXERCISE ITS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND ACT ON LAZ.
    2. “The revelation confirms that the allegations against the Linda Kasonde LAZ Executive are a mere excuse to cover up the ill-conceived scheme by its sponsors to subvert our laws for ulterior long-range plans. Forget everything about the alleged breaches by LAZ President Linda Kasonde and her executive, true or not. But focus on the…

  32. …reason given by the Advocate for seeking to impeach the LAZ executive: he revealed that powerful politicians (obviously the PF leadership) have threatened that if Kasonde and LAZ are not impeached they will pass a Bill in Parliament to dissolve LAZ!: HOW CAN ONE FORGET ABOUT THE ALLEGED BREACHES BY THE LINDA KASONDE EXECUTIVE?? AS KBF PUT THEM: (a) “We as LAZ are advisers and thus LAZ must be neutral. At this stage, Government doesn’t want to have anything to do with LAZ and we are useless without Government. The Association must have a cordial relationship with the Government, off course that does not mean that we should be bootlickers,” (b) “Our history as LAZ is that when a question of a legal nature arises that divides the nation, LAZ calls for an EGM. That has been our history. So…

  33. …that the Executive gets its mandate before it speaks but this Council never consulted its membership before making some of the wrong decisions it has made,” (c) “How do you explain the streaming Live of the UPND press conference via the LAZ Facebook page, who does that? I am a member of LAZ and I don’t accept that and don’t tell me because I am politician then I shouldn’t speak. We should maintain our neutrality as an association.” THESE REASONS ARE CLEAR BREACHES OF PEOPLE’S TRUST IN LAZ!! HE EMPHASISES ON NEUTRALITY AND THE NEED FOR INTERNAL CONSULTATION AND COLLECTIVE CONCENSUS WHICH HAS BEEN DELIBERATELY IGNORED BY LINDA AND HER EXECUTIVE!! GENERAL, DO NOT FORGET THAT LAZ IS A CREATION OF PARLIAMENT WHICH IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA, AND AS AT NOW PARLIAMENT SHOWS…

  34. …THAT THE MAJORITY OF ZAMBIANS CHOSE TO BE REPRESENTED BY THE PF, THUS KBF IS EFFECTIVELY A SYMBOL OF THE MAJORITY. PARLIAMENT BEING THE CREATORS OF LAZ HAVE EVERY RIGHT WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION TO REARRANGE LAZ, NOT DISSOLVE IT AS YOU HAVE PUT IT, IF ITS MEMBERS-POLITICIANS OR NOT BUT AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE, AND THE PUBLIC ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IT. IN THIS MATTER, PARLIAMENT IS NOT SUBVERTING ANY LAW BUT MERELY ACTING WITHIN ITS MANDATE. LAZ IS NOT A CIVIC ORGANISATION.
    3. “Some of their followers have already demonstrated this by raiding the LAZ offices yet there was nothing heard from Mr Fube and his team!”: GENERAL, YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT!! YOU ARE A SENIOR STATESMAN WHO HAS SERVED IN THE HIGHEST POSITIONS IN GOVERNMENT BUT TO PUBLISH A LIE LIKE THAT IS REALLY…

  35. …DISAPPOINTING. PF YOUTHS HAVE EVERY RIGHT UNDER CONSTITUTION TO DEMONSTRATE AND AIR THEIR GRIEVANCES BUT PEACEFULLY. WHICH THEY DID ON THAT DAY!! THERE WAS NO VIOLENCE OR A RAID AS YOU MILITARIANS WOULD PUT IT IN YOUR TERMINOLOGY. IT WAS A PEACEFUL PROTEST. THESE YOUTHS ARE VOTERS WHO VOTE FOR THEIR PARLIAMENTARIANS, AND IT IS THE PARLIAMENTARIANS WHO CREATED THE LAZ ACT, REMEMBER???

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