The Church must take a neutral stance rather than taking sides-Tayali

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Chilufya Tayali back at home
Chilufya Tayali back at home
Economic and Equity Party (EEP) leader Chilufya Tayali has advised the three church mother bodies that called Zambia a dictatorship to take a different approach to airing their grievances rather than exacerbating the situation.

Mr Tayali says the Church must take a neutral stance rather than taking sides.

He said this in an interview yesterday.

“The point is that the three church mother bodies should have taken a different approach, it was rather sensitive to address the issue in that manner.

“It’s like what is happening right now, I have the archbishop’s number yet am talking to you,” he said.

Mr Tayali said the church mother bodies should have engaged President Lungu privately.

“I am not criticising them, if I do so I would be making the same mistake they made. We need to find the best way to handle such sensitive issues,” he said.

And Mr Tayali has advised the UPND to clearly state what they want.

“They have not said what they want. Their counterparts the PF have come out in the open that they want to be recognised as duly elected,” he said.

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    Iwe ka oporunistic rapist tiyali, UPND are clear in what they want.

    They want the petition to be heard in a court of law.

    They basic democratic rights to assemble and their leaders to travel anywhere in the country.

    They want their leaders to be free to greet well wishes.

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      And upnd has categorically stated that they want to prove in COURT that the 2016 presidential election was a fraud. Is it illegal in Zambia to go to the courts to prove oneself?

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      UNDER WHICH CONSTITUTION DO YOU EMPTY HEAD THINK THE PETITION CAN BE HEARD? IF THAT IS WHAT YOU DULL UPND FOLLOWERS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO, THEN AM REALLY SORRY FOR YOU. WHEN SOMETHING IS TIME BARRED THERE IS NO OTHER WAY OF ADDRESSING IT FULL STOP. IN SHORT WHAT YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME ON IS A NON STARTER JUST FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT OR IF YOU WANT YOUR SO CALLED PETITION TO BE HEARD, GO AND TELL THE COURT THAT YOU WANT YOUR PETITION HEARD AND NOT ADDRESS YOU IGNORANCE TO WRONG PEOPLE LIKE THE PRESIDENT. IS IT THE PRESIDENT WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE 14 DAYS FOR HEARING THE PETITION WAS OVER? DULL SERPENTS. MWEBANA BABUFYASHI BWANSOKAMWE.

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      Trouble is even if the petition is heard UPND will not accept the verdict if it turns against them. What UPND want is for Lungu to surrender power to HH.

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      Are you shadreck biemba”the chunsu boy” from kitwe Lubambe drive? are you still teaching pre school kids? My friend if your petition is time bared as you claim, how come you constitutional court judges had the audacity to sit 14 days after to deliberate on the same? According to you 14 days elapsed on a Friday, but your judges had the extra hours and days to sit the following Monday and make decisions.

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      UPND failed to present the evidence of rigging to the constitutional court in the 14 days following elections. Instead, they went to court asking who should be at the state house during their petition…What new evidence is there now?

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    Well said Chilufya Tayali.indeed Telesphore Mpundu was wrong.he took sides instead of being neutral.churches have to be neutral in cases like that.Mr Mpundu embarrassed himself very much.HOW CAN HE ADDRESS THE NATION INFRONT OF GBM,GARRY NKOMBO,MUTALE NALUMANGO AND SEVERAL UPND MPS AND CADRES THEN EXPECT ZAMBIANS TO TAKE HIM SERIOUS?if he wanted to appear neutral,he could have atleast not allowed upnd members to be present as he read upnd propaganda!!
    Yes,upnd must tell us what they want because really we dont know their aim!!UPND SOUND VERY CHILDISH AND SILLY!!ECZ declared Edgar Lungu as 2016 winner,they petitioned the results,but the concourt throw away their petition after its lawyers wasted 14 days.THEREFORE,WHAT ELSE DOES UPND WANT?IS SIMPLY TO CAUSE CHAOS IN ZAMBIA “ATI TUFILILE…

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      UPND want the democratic right to assemble and meet their supporters.

      2 weeks ago lungu cancelled a proposed peacefull march by UPND , why what is he afraid of ???

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      @ Njimbu

      You are embarrassment to the human kind. Learn about LAW before propagating your inbreed lack of the Rule of Law.

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      Imwe bangwele, where were you when the so Called Christians for Lungu surfaced? Did you not see and hear them? On which side are all those you call Pastors, Reverands etc from the Eastern Province are? Is that Non- partisanship? Ala nga mulelemba muletontonkanya first? Befor you vomit swallow something that you can vomit.

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    Bwana Tayali, can you PLEASE read Art. 2(a) of the Constitution before making ridiculous comments in public.
    Alternatively, as you do pretend to be “learned” (lol), can you translate following:
    Art. 2 [Defence of Constitution]
    Every person has the right and duty to-
    (a) defend this Constitution;
    Your “learned” (lol) answer will be appreciated

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    Look this tonga above “spaka like lilo” saying upnd want its petition to be heard.IS PF PREVENTING YOUR TONGA PETITION TO BE HEARD OR OUR CONSTITUTION?you want PF to abrogate the constitution for the sake of HH?tell your mps to remove 14 days time frame from the constitution thats when the “cuundu caitwa” petition will be heard.BUT DOES UPND HAVE NUMBERS IN PARLIAMENT TO ACHIEVE THAT?BIG NO!!SO FORGET IT!!
    HH cannot be release anyhow because he committed a crime,so wait for the courts to clear or convict him.
    Time for campaigns are long gone,so upnd cannot be allowed to be causing confusion in Zambia everyday as all hh know is politics of provocation,insults and name calling.campaign time will be back in 2021.THIS IS TIME FOR WORK TO DEVELOP MOTHER ZAMBIA!!

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      Who told you UPND meeting their supporters is campaigning???

      Why is HH and GBM not allowed to greet well wishes ??? Why are they not allowed to have any press briefing?? Why are they not allowed to meet their supporters??

      Why should Zambians democratic right to peacefully assembly be banned because of lungus paranoia ???

      If lungu provided just a 1/4 OF the 500,000 jobs he promised no now would bother to attend UPND rallies.

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      Here we go again, that 14 days defense by pf, they only “won” the elections based on the 14 days.

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      Njimbu you are a she goat and fool. You dont evennknow what you are talking about . You are a scum. Idiots like you send this lovely country backwards because you turn a blind eye to important things and want to open your mouth the same way you phat in your sleep. Shut up and sit down you lazy *****. There is no PF all those are opportunists and seeing power is sweet they didnt even expect it. Who are PF? Where is Scott, even Kambwili depsite ranting too much is not PF original . Ask Scott all these ****** are non PF there is too much corruption going on. Sick sick fools.

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    Mr. Mpundu is not wrong to rebuke President Lungu and his pf. Jesus when he was on earth rebuked the evil doers and told them to sin no more. Pf are in power who are abusing the Police, ECZ, Judiciary and ZAF to punish the opponents. UPND wants the petition to be heard but PF does not want to know, all they want are short cuts to be recognised other than sorting out the problems the two parties have against each other. Ba pf learn to accept when you are wrong. Do not cover up the wrongs, God is not asleep. You won’t have it easy.

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    first of all the three mother bodies told you that they have made several attempts to meet lungu but they have been block by the pipo who surrounds lungu. they had no option but to talk to him through press briefing.

    about upnd stating what they want, tayali is being hypocritical, we all know that upnd want to be heard, the mismanaging of petition is what is causing tension.pf is violeting human rights by puting pipo in jail.

    we are heartless as a nation by praising pipo who are inflicting pain on others.

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    Tayali you are a disappointment. Are you sure you don’t know what the UPND want? Why is it that our politicians don’t pay attention to clear information.Mr.Tayali you are the only one who doesn’t know what the UPND want. Let me tell you.UPND want the petition to be heard ok.Think about the aftermath of the 2016 general elections. We have constantly advised that let the petition be heard and who ever will be declared winner will be recognised thereof and they wont be anyone petitioning.

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    Its over 70 days now since the time HH was arrested.no nation such as America,UK,SA,Botswana,Tanzania has blamed PF Govnt over the arrest of HH.
    When FTJ Chiluba’s Govnt arrested Dr.Kaunda in 1996,the whole world stood up against Chiluba and Dr KK was realeased fast because he never committed any offence!!
    BUT HH COMMITTED A CRIME IN MONGU AND POSTED IT ON U-TUBE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO WATCH HIS NONSENSE HENCE KEEPING QUIET AS HH ROT IN MUKOBEKO!!
    these are facts which upnd blind followers fail to understand!Mutinta Hichilema cried recently saying “hh is suffering but Zambians and the world are watching!!”DOES SHE THINK ZAMBIANS AND THE WORLD WOULD SUPPORT HH’S NONSENSE?NEVER!!even in a democracy-there are rules to follow!!

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      Who told you UPND meeting their supporters is campaigning???

      Why is HH and GBM not allowed to greet well wishes ??? Why are they not allowed to have any press briefing?? Why are they not allowed to meet their supporters??

      Why should Zambians democratic right to peacefully assembly be banned because of lungus paranoia ???

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    IkikikikiK that Tayali has counselled his Catholic bishop Mpundu! Wandepaula mwaice

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    Tayali is a hypocrite who cannot be trusted. The 3 Church Mother Bodies tried to discuss with Lungu face to face but they were blocked. Hence they issued a Strongly worded Statement on behalf of the Voiceless. The message is clear. “An injury on One is an injury on all of us”. Incancerating and persecuting HH on Trumped Up Treason Charges is an injury on millions of church goers to these Churches. Tayali should know that the 2016 Election was Disputed and Petitioned by HH. That Petition is not yet heard and is still in Court. Lungu and PF have jailed HH for refusing to recognize Lungu as President and not becoz he committed Treason. Lungu is using Treason to keep HH in Jail and force him to recognize Lungu. HH and UPND will not recognize a Vote Thief and a Law Breaker as a Legitimate…

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    @ Musonda. Yr analysis is spot on. We have a Stalemate and the only way forward is to release HH unconditionally first and then have unconditional Dialogue.We need SADC to intervene and mediate the Dispute. SADC thru an appointed Special Election Tribunal should hear the Petition and that Court should declare the Winner of the 2016 Election duly elected President. HH and Lungu should accept the Tribunal’s Verdict. That way Zambians will reunite, reconcile and start the Healing Process. There is no short cut to this and the Petition will not go away on its own as Lungu seems to think.

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      So @Mooya you do agree with us that, upnd’s stance of not recognizing the sitting president and acvepting what the constitution States on the presidential petition is what is causing divisions in our great nation right?

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    @Divide & Rule:in 2016 PF never won elections based on 14 days as stated in the constitution.ECZ declared PF as 2016 winners with more than 100,000 votes?has upnd heard anybody in Zambia who has won an election based on 14 days?WHY ARE YOU TONGAS ALWAYS WANT TO TWIST THINGS TO SUIT YOU?YOUR THINKING IS VERY WEIRD!!!
    surely dont you know that as long as 14 days time frame is not removed by mps from our constitution then hearing the “cuundu caitwa” petition is a none starter? YOUR ROYALTY TO HH IS NOW TURNING INTO MADNESS!!
    some of us are neutral.when PF errors,we blame and when it does a right thing,we appreciate.this is how it should be in a democracy!!BUT FOR YOU GUYS IN UPND-TRIBLISM AS BLINDED YOU SUCH THAT YOU CONSIDER HH TO BE A god-AMAZING!!

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      Who told you UPND meeting their supporters is campaigning???

      Why is HH and GBM not allowed to greet well wishes ??? Why are they not allowed to have any press briefing?? Why are they not allowed to meet their supporters??

      Why should Zambians democratic right to peacefully assembly be banned because of lungus paranoia ???

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    The chap even looks broke, why should the opinions of clowns Like Tayali even be considered as news. The chap has no moral grounds to criticise anyone or give opinions on anything.

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      Calling into question the financial status of your opponent makes you look venal.That is not very brilliant on your part.

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    What Tayali has said is what the three mother bodies tried to do and Lungu has not given them access. Kabwili said the same that it’s difficult to access Lungu hence they resorted to the press

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    Consistency is the key to a virtuous life. You now call Tayali a clown when just a few weeks ago he was a hero for taking on IG Kanganja. Upnd your dictatorship traits is exposed by supporting a person’s view only when it favours you but when next that person criticizes you he becomes a clown. In short you know it all and no one has the right to criticize you.

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    It is difficult to know what Tayali stand for. At one point , he seek UPND to be banned , at other he brand PF as a bad party after his imprisonment. During the national election campaign , He vigorously camped for PF and branding UPND as a tribal party, demonic, and evil organization . Today , The party he campaign for has taken him to court .
    Let us judge for yourself if giving such people like Tayali higher national responsibilities will yield better returns for our country.

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    For your information Bishop Tresfor Mpundu made those statements without consulting other Bishops. It’s to do with the late Michael Sata ….very soon it’ll come in open.

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    If His Grace Arch Bishop Tresphore Mpundu had just consulted widely among his fellow Catholic Church Bishops, he couldn’t have made that partisan Opinion about the allegations against the country…Who allowed the UPND to attend that press conference which was siding with them especially that the matter is in court…It is my considered view that the Arch Bishop rushed to the media and I am now trying to contemplate what is already in the public domain that maybe that’s why he has not yet been appointed as Cardinal the Pope since he’s the first contender…this is just my view but if it’s not true please your Grace forgive me wholeheartedly…

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    The church has a right to take a side! That side is justice! If one truly wants to side with justice, you take off your partisan glasses and put on your objective ones.

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    They expect Lungu to given them access on their terms, Lungu is a busy man there are other people who has sort to see him long before them and they are still waiting. Them they want him to leave everything that he is doing to accommodate them, when in the first place they never even wanted to see him. Before they asked to see him they first went to the media then after wards that is when they thought of seeing him. The President’s office is not a kantemba, it is the highest office in the country. Even him the Bishop one can’t go to his office at random considering he is a busy man.

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    Zakeyo, you have reduced my ignorance further. I actually did not know that the Arch Bishop was first contender. If he is, am sure he has messed up his chances of being appointed. He has made 2 serious mistakes in 2 months. 1 when he read a statement purporting to be a pastoral letter- signed by himself only. 2 giving a personal opinion and saying it represents he church.

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    Why telesphore failed counsel hh before he meets ecl. Anyone who would like to counsel ecl shud start the Manson hh. Kudelela ecl uku ba kembo imwe.

    Leave ecl alone. Mpaka litente. Tukala dununa mpaka hh akagwe icitutu no bwamba na bwima

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    Tabwali is insane, the church should be neutral in these times of evil-pf.
    The real men of God should stand up for the oppressed and the poor.
    Those other men of GOLD as we know them already are standing up for their pockets.

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    The Church has mentioned that they tried diplomacy and state house declined to meet them. Hence, the approach taken. So what are you talking about?

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      Are you in Zambia? The other bishops have indirectly distanced themselves from this statement. And I mean Catholic bishops. His lordship Mpundu is pursuing his own agenda. After all he’s only human and a little oiling of the palms can do wonders.

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    Dunder Heards ,the Bishop knows what he wants to achieve by stirring the nest and make way for the Talks . They have a no worry and am sure he saw the Evidence that these Boys in the Opposition have .remember He was trained at the Catholic University for over 7 years

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