UPND wants President Lungu to produce his NRC

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UPND Spokesman Charles Kakoma
UPND Spokesman Charles Kakoma

The opposition UPND has demanded that President Edgar Lungu produces his National Registration Card to determine whether his card bears the name of his tribe.

Reacting to President Lungu’s proposal that Zambia should remove one’s tribe registered on the NRC, the UPND is wondering where President Lungu got that information from.

Party Spokesman Charles Kakoma said after checking his own NRC, he found that there is no space anywhere written “tribe.”

“Where did the President get this information from? My NRC just shows my name, date of birth, place of birth, sex, village, chief and district,” Mr. Kakoma said.

He further questioned, “What about our names that are associated with certain regions and tribes? Should such names also be removed from the NRC in order to fight tribalism?”

Mr Kakoma said the UPND believes tribalism is being promoted by some politicians to champion their political agenda.

“For example, if a PF cabinet minister goes to the Eastern Province where President Edgar Lungu comes from and urges the easterners to vote for their own son, is that not promoting regionalism and tribalism?”

He said the UPND would like to see President Lungu’s identity card to prove his claims.

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132 COMMENTS

  1. UPND and pet issues. when is upnd going to grow up and make sense. everyone in upnd is childish including cadres like Larry mweetwa. thus why Zambians do not have a option because PF is also useless and the tongas are always voting for upnd if we just agreed and voted for people who can make sense like FDD or the greens we can do better.

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    • Who do they really think they are ?

      They should be charged with being the name of the President in despitute

      Thanks

      BB2014 2016

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    • LUNGU is a Malawian. This is revelation came from Mike Mulongoti, who is 1st cousin to Lungu’s 1st wife (Tasila’s real mother).

      Lungu claims he was born at Ndola Central Hospital but everyone knows NCH was a whites-only hospital at the time of his birth.

      Foreigners have ruined our once prosperous nation. See how KK a malawian oppressed zambians for 27 years, how FTJ a congolese destroyed our economy & started the stealing spree, how RB another Malawian started the stealing through infrastucture & oil-supply contracts.

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    • I really wouldn’t want to be ruled by this pathetic animal of a party!!!

      Can you be progressive?

      You losers!!

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    • If he’s truly Zambian, he would feel the pain of giving foreigners our national assets like ZNBC, NRDC, Chimbokaila, Silverest Forest, Luangwa National park, Chichele lodge, RATSA, Luburma Market etc.

      At the rate we are going Lungu can give Victoria Falls to Chinese.

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    • This is a bit daft by UPND. The guy has been ruling and stealing for about 3 years now then you wake up one day and make such an outrageous statement about his NRC. He will just Photoshop one and show you. The opposition of this caliber has no credibility at all. Can you think of other issues on which to base logical arguments. Lungu just Photoshop Mulongoti’s NRC and show these guys, you are very good with shoddy deals after all.

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    • It’s not about nationality, it’s about tribe.
      Edgar was born and green up on copperbelt. Guy can’t even speak with RB in any Eastern language, Edgar speak Bemba, he just have wrong name.
      Kakoma is NOT Tonga either.
      I love tribalism, I love my Ng’umbo language. I love totems.
      Mwempumba mikowa imwe.

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    • The request is not petty but will instead confirm Lungu’s place of birth.

      God bless Zambia.

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    • Maybe upnd has found an opportunity through his slip of the tongue to scrutinise his birth place on his NRC. Am sure mulongoti will be delighted to have a look at his NRC. could it be mulongoti’s claims also prompted this sudden dislike of some info appearing on our NRCs?

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    • Lungu is right, this thing of identifying ones village, hence tribe, is so stone age, divisive and tribal, those of us who were born in the metros never identify with any tribe but with the townships, like Kamchelele, Chillies Luzburg, Rokana, Migrand, etc. No one should force me to identify with a headman Kaputula, a place I will never go or even know. It does’t make me less Zambia. So yes it should be enough for one to state when and which place in Zed one was born, period. The mediocrity on the opposition in Zed, especially UPND knows no bounds… Ekupwa uku basa.

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    • Childish party always looking for ways to send hh to state house. what a shame. no policies to put on the table. Behaving like trump asking for Obama’s birth certificate

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    • Just including: village, chief and district, will tell you the tribe of that person. Other countries do not add such details on their ID’s. That is what the president wants to stop. Why indicate your village for example. We are all Zambians.

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    • @ Anonymous
      It’s NOT kachepa stories. FTJ rode on the backs of support of pipo like you. Wake up from your slumber, it’s not too late to save our beleaguered country from Lungu’s mismanagement.

      No responsible leader can indebt our country again after the hardships we went thru in the 80’s & 90’s (caused by IMF structural Adjustment Programs)

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    • THESE 1DIOTS ARE REALLY BIG TIME WASTERS. HAVE YOU STOLLEN HIS NRC AND THEN ASKING HIM TO PRODUCE ONE? PF AND OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES THAT MEAN WELL FOR ZAMBIA MUST BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THESE BUNCH OF POLITICAL IDI0TS. THEY HAVE NOW STARTED STEALING IDs VERY SOON TOWARDS ELECTIONS THEY WILL BE ASKING YOU TO PROVE IF YOU ARE ZAMBIANS. THESE 1DI0TS HAVE MASSIVELY BIG EMPTY HEADS. IT IS NOT SURPRISING THAT THIS GUY ANY ANY ONE IN THEIR TRIBAL NONSENSE WAS GOING SAY SH!T IN THE MEDIA. GUYS IF YOU CAN’T DO REAL POLITICS, LEAVE IT TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND STOP WASTING PEOPLES’ TIME. YOU ARE JUST A BUNCH OF F00LS.

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    • “The opposition UPND has demanded that President Edgar Lungu produces his National Registration Card to determine whether his card bears the name of his tribe.”
      THESE F00LS ALL THEY DREAM OF IS TRIBE. BA FIWENO, WE ARE ALL ZAMBIANS. THERE’S NO ONE TRIBE IN ZAMBIAN WHICH IS MORE ZAMBIAN THAN THE OTHER. COME OFF THIS NONSENSE TRIBE THING OF YOURS. YOU CHAPS YOU CAN’T SEE ANYTHING BEYOND TRIBAL LINES. YOU SIMPLY SCARE OTHER TRIBES VOTING FOR YOUR TRIBAL PARTY BECAUSE OF THE SAME TRIBAL NONSENSE. I WASTED MY TIME THINKING NALABELENGE FYA NZELE AND YET ALENYA FYE COW DUNG.

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    • @1.2 SO TRULY WAS/IS KK. CHILUBA WAS CLAIMED TO BE CONGOLESE AND JUST RECENTLY, MICHAEL SATA WAS CLAIMED TO BE TANZANIAN. SO, WHO IS TRULY ZAMBIAN IN ZAMBIA? TONGAS? ULABEJA MANINGI MUSANKWA. WE ARE ALL ZAMBIANS. IF OTHER ZAMBIANS WERE AS !DI0TIC AS YOUR UPND CLUB THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING CHITOMBWA IS FROM ZIMBABWE. HOWEVER, OTHERS ARE ABOVE POLITICS OF TRIBE.

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    • @1.6 THAT CONCLUDES THAT YOU ARE NOT A TONGA THEREFORE, NOT A ZAMBIAN. MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE CHAKA ZULU CHASED AWAY FROM HIS KRAALS AND RAN AWAY INTO ZAMBIA EVEN FORGETTING THEIR PIECES OF LOINS. OR YOU ARE FROM TANZANIA OR CONGO. PARK YOUR BAG AND FLEE BEFORE THESE BUNCH OF CR00KS START HUNTING YOU. WHAT A LOUGH FROM THE SO CALLED MAIN OPPOSITION CLUB.

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    • If I was an examiner I would fail a number of contributors on the titled issue being discussed! What is at hand is as stated in paragraph 2 in the article above….”Reacting to President Lungu’s proposal that Zambia should remove one’s tribe registered on the NRC, the UPND is wondering where President Lungu got that information from.”…. All everyone who has an NRC need do is to look at the details on it and see if there is any place that tribe is mentioned! I believe UPND is only suggesting that probably the president was issued an NRC that is different from that of any other Zambian in that it probably has his tribe stated otherwise its a case of shear ignorance and not being serious with this important national identity document! Its also laughable for some to trivialize the NRC as…

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    • contd…..being of no real value for entries recorded on it, its sad, for Zambia is not founded on migration or by immigrants thus to claim one has no roots of origin is self deceit! Even the largest nation founded by immigrants the USA the citizens still trace their roots around the world! Tribe as an issue until the post UNIP rule era was low key and the nation had started learning to appreciate the unity being fostered amongst tribal enclaves. I bet the mediocre quality and inferiority complexes among elected officials for want of self aggrandizement became proponents of divisiveness using tribe. Politicians’ rhetoric is driving the citizenry back to their tribal enclaves and as much as leaders continue focussing on such an agenda for their own benefit true nation loving Zambians…

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    • Like I said a few days ago, the President is just trying to divert people’s attention from the real issue of where he hails from and his personal identity. The real tribalism exists in most radio and TV stations, including ZNBC where you find most of their content is either in Bemba or Nyanja! Isn’t that silly to talk about ” One Zambia, One Nation” when even the National Broadcaster promotes only two tribes (Bemba and Nyanja) in most of their dealings, be it in music or adverts!

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    • Who started this tribalism? Wasn’t Michael Sata? Remember his first cabinet in 2011? The UPND and other tribes are fighting that injustices created by Sata. Today you visit any government and parastatal company, you will be lucky to be greeted or welcomed in English, which is the official language but in Bemba or Nyanja and most of you say the UPND is tribal? REALLY? Who is tribal here? PF OR UPND? LOOK AT ISSUES LIKE LEARNED PEOPLE!

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    • “Where did the President get this information from? My NRC just shows my name, date of birth, place of birth, sex, village, chief and district,” Mr. Kakoma said.
      “For example, if a PF cabinet minister goes to the Eastern Province where President Edgar Lungu comes from and urges the easterners to vote for their own son, is that not promoting regionalism and tribalism?”
      Thank you UPND for finally recognizing that Edgar Lungu is President of Zambia.
      What a relief!
      Could the party now drop all pending court cases in this connection so that the nation’s development agenda forges ahead?

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  2. Me, I lost that green plastic called NRC, but I can tell you my names, even at village I have witnesses,,,,,
    I don’t know about Edgar,,,,

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    • @Ndobo, you lost NRC deliberately, most guys from The West gave back to Zambia. The Balotseland card looks good, with elephant on it.

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    • So, does this make you more Zambian than those of us born in Towns where there are no headmen… this is so backward. Zed is one state period, not a collection of obscure headmen.

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  3. This is really cheap of UPND. That was a narrative and a figure-of-speech. And this coming from a Party Spokes Person.

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    • I didn’t know mulongoti’s claims would made make someone start requesting for certain info to be removed from our NRCs. Kikikikiki kikikikiki.

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    • I beg to differ here, Kakoma did not dream up this topic but is answering to what the president uttered about tribe on our N R C s it made me look at mine too.

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  4. Elyo aka ideas nomba ba upAndOWN.This information is in the form you at the time of registration. Besides, this is childish observation.Grow up.Am not apf as ceased to be one when Mr.Data died

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  5. By indicating your village and district on the NRC, you automatically tell us your tribe. However, I agree with you on surnames being associated with tribe

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    • And what is wrong with that? My friend if you hate tribe, there is nothing i can do about your undeveloped brain. Remain styopet.

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    • @ divide & rule, nothing wrong but ma irere aya…If you think loving your so called tribe makes you more Zambian then you are the one with an underdeveloped brain. One should love and be proud or be ashamed of Zed as a whole, without being exclusion. This is a classic example of tribalism, akin to Apartheid . No wonder UPND is so tribal.

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    • Not really. My parents are from Solwezi but I was born in Mansa, Chief Chimese’s village, and that is what appears on my NRC.

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  6. During KK’s time, TRIBALISM WAS A SERIOUS MATTER THAT PEOPLE DIDN’T PLAY WITH ESPECIALLY THOSE IN LEADERSHIP. Yes, to get a Passport or NRC they ask about tribe but these DO NOT SHOW on the documents.So Ba Lungu misdirected himself!! Let TRIBALISM BE FOUGHT BY EMPHASIZING MERIT AND EXCELLENCE IN EVERYTHING WE DO- INCLUDING THE PRESIDENCY!!

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    • Sorry meant “…. they ask about tribe but these DO NOT SHOW on the documents.”meant DO NOT SHOW on the IDENTITY DOCUMENTS.

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  7. Ladies and gentlemen, fellow countrymen and women, THIS IS THE CALIBRE OF OPPOSITION WE HAVE IN ZAMBIA. Instead of raising real issues in parliament, they choose to showboat in the media raising insignificant and worthless issues that will not help develop this nation. Do we deserve this???

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    • No, it is really so sad, and we expect change and development to come from these chaps…uluse ba Zed. Cry my beloved country!!!!!

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    • IF YOU EXPECT POSITIVE CHANGE FROM THESE TRIBALISTS YOUR HOPE IS TERRIBLY MISPLACED. IN FACT POSITIVE CHANGE MUST START FROM THE PARTY ITSELF. HH, HAS STOOD LOSINGLY FOR DONKEY AGES AND HE IS STILL THEIR PARTY PRESIDENT- MEANING HE IS A DICTATOR WITHIN HIS PARTY AND THEY ALLOW HIM, IN FACT, TRAIN AND PREPARE HIM TO BE A DICTATOR AT A STATE LEVEL. EVEN UNIP, MMD, AND PF WERE NOT FOR A SINGLE TRIBE AND EXAMPLES ABOUND. THEREFORE, WE DON’T NEED TO DISCUSS THEM. IN UPND- EVEN THEIR SMALL GOD’S SERVANTS ARE TONGA, FARM WORKERS ARE TONGA OR SOMEWHERE NEAR TO TONGA. SO, YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT IF (AND ONLY IF) THIS KA SMALL TONGA GOD BECOMES PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA. DON’T GET ME WRONG- I LOVE MY TONGA BROTHERS AND SISTER. BUT A SMALL BUNCH OF TONGAS ARE MESSING UP THE GOOD NAME OF THE MAJORITY

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  8. These chaps in UPND are just a bunch of criminals. Are these really any sane person can associate with, my foot! Thats what losing too many times does to the brain you get confused.

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  9. Rubbish absolutely rubbish i was born in Monze am from Luangwa district what does that make me, Kakoma brainless, you the cause of not winning, so so disappointed with my party, One Zambia One Nation means a mr Kakoma

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  10. When will UPND stop pet politics kanshi?
    THEY SAY “SILENCE IS GOLDEN”.UPND NEED NOT TO RESPOND TO EACH AND EVERY NONSENSE!!
    All Zambians know that upnd is a tribal party.so Kakoma is just adding salt to the wounds.instead of letting Zambians forget about tribalism in UPND,this ka luvale man is busy reminding Zambians about how tribal upnd is.Kainde must tell his members to stop talking about tribalism because it is UPND which losers votes due to tribalism.ECL has nothing to lose on this topic because he belongs to the two leading tribal groupings (Northerners and Easterners) in Zambia!!!TRIBALISM IS WHAT MAKES HH LOSE ELECTION AFTER ELECTION!!

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  11. Then our NRCs should not bear any names.Someone’s full names simply show where they come from.We all know that Mwamba is Bemba,Hamusonde is Tonga,Ngulube is from Eastern,Kanganja is Lunda,Sitali is Lozi,Chibale is Lala

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    • @11 Politician, Your tabulation is NOT NECESSARILY TRUE, We have INTERMARRIAGES and SOME NAMES THAT ARE FOUND IN MANY PARTS OF ZAMBIA for example Mumba, Mwanza, Mwenda,Mwale, written the same but pronounced differently depending on the area one comes from!!

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    • @ politician, a Surname in Zed never equals tribe at all. Zambian names, I am proud to say, are most neutral. Which is as it should be. Its like telling a book by its color. Zambiaisours your are 100% right

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    • @Politician, stop peddling fake news. Mwenda? Mwanza? Ng’andu etc. A lot of names are “quietly” non-tribal as you find them in places you would never dream of. Mwenda is all over the place for instance. Mwanza can also be Kaonde by the way… Ever heard of Ng’andu in Northern and Southern Province? Wisen up and live in the 21st Century even if it is for once in your small mind.

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  12. yaba!!!!! no comment for Kakoma. HH can you get rid of such trash in you party otherwise will still vote for PF even if they are stealing.

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  13. Please ignore this drunkard of a President who when he opens his mouth can not articulate anything and leaves it to his ill-equipped media team to mop up!

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    • Last time i checked drunkards were the majority voters. Upnd keep losing elections because they insult voters like this foool above.

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    • UPND keep losing because they are imature and dont have a strategy….you are right on the majority of Zambians but you forgot to mention that they are docile and need to be educated on what voting is about!!

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    • If upnd are immature as what you’ve rightly said then what makes of you their supporter. Am glad you’ve agreed that you’re an under5 too.

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    • Thats because in your simple small pea sized brain there are only two colours; black and white nothing else.

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  14. If you don’t have your tribe on your reg its a fake one. Mine shows in black and white. Next to the Chief (kaputa) is my tribe.

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    • Last i checked, you was singing hymns on how you got saved by the crimson red blood shade at the cross of calvary, how is red danger to you now?

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  15. PF cadres have low levels of thinking. LT should change the heading to Lungu wants Tribe removed from NRC. Kakoma is responding to the lie of what Lungu said. Which NRC has tribe? You PF cadres, are you in the West illegally or not? If you’re legal, you have signed forms which shows where you were born and your nationality. In Australia, you are also asked whether you’re Aboriginal or of Torrest Strait Island ancestry. Nothing wrong to ask about someone’s tribe on the form. But there’s no tribe on the NRC. This shows that Lungu is a foreigner. Let him show his NRC to see if it has Tribe. This is what Kakoma is asking Lungu for. Now you blind PF cadres are ignorant of what Kakoma is saying. It is an offence for Lungu to lie that he was born at Ndola Central Hospital.

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    • @cosmos forgive that tribal cretin. What can he tell us about oz. Everyone knows that tongas are upnd’s and vice versa. If ecl has a foreign nrc then how did he enrol at unza latter on getting his passport with a foreign nrc. These are the questions you need to answer.
      Pf govt has sugfested tge printing of ballots localky whats your take ba upnd. I expected you to react to this than the nrc issue. Do you stilk want to be chasing trucks and aeroplanes in search of pre marked ballots.

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    • @ Kapotufu I am riding the same wave with you.

      @ Cosmos, of course Australia does not have NRC’s as we know it for Zambia but while the NRC for Zambian law is all round official identification document, Australians may be applying different standards in that you’ll be identified using what is in their laws.

      @ HH OVAL HEAD if you are a true Zambian and happen to own a green NRC does it state anywhere what your tribe is? Who says foreigners can not enroll at UNZA? ECL is saying the entry depicting tribe on the NRC should be removed thus one may ask if he has an NRC similar to what every other Zambian has!

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  16. This o so Cheap from UPND, do these guys even see how the opposition in countries such as S.A conduct themselves?? Those guys press the ruling ANC on real issues unlike such cheap talk. Being Zambian awe sure!!!!!!!!!!! The ruling PF is going to the dogs, the opposition is going to the dogier

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  17. These UPND/HH supporters i wonder . No wonder I don’t like their tribesmen because of tribalism. Just ushering that statement tribalism is on their strongholds. Please who can remove this tribal- DNA in these people? Can you imagine if HH wins,Easterners and Northernmost, thus , including chiefs how He will ill-treat them!! Already we saw how GBM treated Northerners when marry out his child…

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  18. who is being cheap? Edgar or this man who is just responding to Edgar’s insinuations. That is the problem when you hate some one. You don’t see the logic. For me it is Edgar who is being cheap. Why did he say there is tribe on the NRC. I’m also wondering and would have asked him the same question.

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  19. We are going through poor governance by people in power and simultaneously unreliable checks and balances by the opposition. The people who vote are disenfranchised in a lot of beneficial activities due to their affiliations and are excluded in most developmental projects by these power hungry politicians.These shameless dictators are milking great wealth at the expense of the poor. When will the voters wake up? Since we attained our sovereignty facts are that failure and anarchy are the chorus sang by past and present regimes. Shame! Those in opposition should be more tactical and more constructive.

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  20. Kakoma, you guys in the opposition should shows us how you are different from the ruling party but alas you are just the same. Secondly, UPND is the wrong party to bring up anything to do with a leader’s parentage because up to now HH has not shown us or has never said anything about his father. Rumour has it that his original names were Sonny Chintomfwa, why did he change his name???

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  21. Tiyeniuko nibupuba NA mulongoti aka lishilu. Tamwakaleke ifya bupuba. Kakoma tawakwata ufya kuchita ukulakonka unobe pamatako. Idiot

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  22. These childish retarded Under 5 nincompoop pussis.
    petition failed now they’re trying monkey tricks. pathetic rats

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  23. Some in the UPND are quite intelligent people and I have respect for them, only they are not given chance to get nearer to the leadership. There is total individualism being practiced up there. Does one have to have sight to have vision? Is a country run on one person’s vision only? ECL vision, Mulongoti visoin, HH vision, Chanda vision, Sinkamba vision added to the visions of Kaunda, Chiluba, Mwanawasa, Banda and Sata’s equals a confused national vision called selfishness.

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  24. What Mulongoti didn’t reveal was how his cousin ran away with Tasila and Dalitso after dubiously getting money from a client thereby causing Chagwa to lose his license only to find solace in Jemasoni. Musalu wali pesamba lelo uli pamulu. Changwa is a man.

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  25. The English By Kakoma has confused people here.They think he is Challenging the birthplace.Awe.Kakoma is disputing the NRC.Check you NRC and tell me if it shows Tribe.I checked and found nothing showing Tribe on mine.So Kakoma is asking the difference betyween The current one and the one intended to be introduced.

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    • I think it’s rather the way of reporting that is misleading. The headline DOES sound as if the president’s nationality is being questioned.

      Furthermore, the opposition is portrayed to be castigating tribalism in politics when in fact they themselves just added fuel to the fire by childish utterances through their party spokesman.

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  26. Thanks Mr Kakoma.
    To me you have spoken not because you had something to say but you spoke because you wanted to .
    From what you have spoken, you have just highlighted a problem .I have not seen any solution to your nonsense .That is why some say there is no opposition in Zambia. No alternative view or deferent position. Very useless

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  27. Only those who are bigoted have problems with their tribes. I mean, we all come from somewhere, roots. If Lungu thinks that he can uproot us from our roots just because his parents are Malawians, let him go to hell and marry Lucifer. As for me, “ni mwana Numwa Imakena Imaungu, ni simuluha mwa mbunga mwa Ngulu Tautoya. Mali a siNyengo, a siKwangwa, a siShanjo, a sisubiya, a siKwamulonga, nia a siKololo a bubana mwa misinga yaka ye! Mina baba swabela simuluho yamina kizamina, minungwamina!”. Anyway, for Lungu not to know that there is no provision for tribe in the NRC, its an indication that the Koswe Mumpoto might be an illegal alien! This needs to be investigated.

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  28. No wonder the shape of his mouth looks like Kamuzu Ngwazi Banda, he is an illegitimate son of the kama dead dictator. I have though always wondered how a supposedly Nyanja chap does not speak Nyanja properly. The guy is a foreigner.

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  29. I am sure he produced his nrc when he stood for mp and twice as president. Please give us proper propaganda not this nonsense.

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  30. This is not Lungu’s first time to serve in public office. His records should be everywhere. Why ask now? Check the records and start from there unless you have found something concrete.

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  31. UPND is really petty. I dont think Lungu implied what this scatterhead thing is talking about. Anything tribal they are sensitive over it and think they are doing fine when its clear that thats their inborn disease. This group of characters is a serious let down to the nation. UPND always listening to their own voices. A sign of madness. Even his English is terrible and these are leaders. KIKIKI!
    What a disaster!

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  32. The President should just go ahead and modernise our Country. It is a pity that in this and age people can be talking about tribes. Could it be it is because people with villages( born in villages, nothing wrong with this) are now in positions of responsibility in GRZ? It is really an embarrassment that one is asked to include ‘Father’s village;’ being place of birth’ on NRC. It has made some of us born on the Copperbelt and Lusaka look like idiots because our places of birth are not accepted as villages when registering our children. Whoever thought of this village/tribe nonsense must be really ashamed. President Lungu, please modernise our Country.

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  33. When you read the article-not just the headline- you see the sense in Kakoma’s statement. Lungu doesnt know his own national registration card

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    • What sense can you see in kakomas 5tupidity. Ecl did not start his life with presidency but has gone through alot of stages were nrc is very vital such as hospital opening of bank account enrollment in schools obtaining of viters card participating in elections marriage etc. These stafes could’ve revealed already that he is not Zambian. This is just a childish statement. They have drifted from the first stanza of corruption to the second one of nationality. What a bunch of dull opposition politicians.

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  34. I do not have to read the full story if it mentions any upndeez officials, I just end at the headline and know that “” it says upndeez, then it is rub.bish”.
    And then you understand why they behave that way, it is the realisation that they are not an option for Zambians to consider when they will be ready to change government, upndeez have given up hope of ever ruling Zambia. We can use a quote from the tribe that they like misquoting “tuka filila munsenga”, do you know that quite upndeez? It simply means “since we are not able to rule Zambia and we are rejected for ever, then we will spoil everything in Zambia so that we all lose”.

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  35. For those of us who were born in Norther Rhodesia we just enjoying Zambians debate. Very nice postings. I have enjoyed myself. Cheers

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  36. @20 Ghost, that is what I mean all the time I comment, if upndeez call their colleagues dogs then upndeez themselves are doggier.

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  37. By the way, where is their leader h.h? I have missed him this week when I predicted that he would show up at his weekly press briefing on monday to spew more unprintables and more unbelievables and more halucinations. Looks he read my comment. But then the boy is suffering from Mukobeko disease, his health may not too good so we must sympathise with him, more esp his supporters who seem to be ever so demanding of him to think for them, anyway tgat is what he likes that no one else should think not even Gary and Jack Mwiimbu.

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  38. This week alone we have heard from Gary, Jack and now Kakoma,very strange there must be something wrong with h.h.

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  39. The Zambian intelligence /OP and the Police have let Zambians down, for failing to confirm the Real and True Nationality of Public Figures in this country.
    Kaunda,a Malawian, and his Despotic Malawian Dynasty lasted 27years.It is Kaunda’s Dictatorship,Mismanaged and Stunted National Economy, Condoned Torture, Impunity and Gross Human Rights violations, by OP, that brought Kaunda down.
    Aron Milner, a Zimbabwean, was appointed as Home Affairs and Defence Minister, by Kaunda.
    Chiluba, a Congolese, who took to the letter his Mentor’s (Mobutu) Advice of “Kuba na Mayele”- “Ukwiba na mano” (Steal Cleverly /Wisely). During Chiluba’s Kaboke Dynasty, Chiluba,his Uncle, BY Mwila, another Congolese, and other Congolese in Zambian Government, stole public funds and plundered national wealth…

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  40. UPND copy and paste of Donald J Trump strategic claims and requests for President Obama to produce his birth certificates and place of birth, unfortunately it didn’t work for him and Obama finished his 8 years term in office while Trump was still looking for Obama birth certificate.

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  41. All those criticizing Kakoma are missing the point being raised. Kakoma is not challenging Lungu’ birth place but his ignorance of what information is on an NRC. A public display of failure in such issues raises concerns on what more important issues he makes decisions on based on wrong information e.g fire tender wheelbarrow costing $1000000 and insured at $ 250,000 etc

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  42. Are Zambians really this hungry that they can’t even understand what Kakoma but is trying to challenge…bum Lungu said that the NRC shows tribe…kakoma challenged and said it does not…is this too much for you to comprehend ba Zed…hunger ba Zed

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  43. “Lungu’s fault that Livingstone was flooded!” Once an Under Five, always an Under Five! Even supporters! They inherit the gene of stoolpidity.

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  44. Petty politics UPND. Are you scared or what?

    EL also, it won’t help in the fight against tribalism to remove the tribe clause on NRC. Our Sir names, villages will still spell out our ethnic grouping.

    I am bemba, I love my tribe, nobody will ever change that. I won’t demean your tribe. If you are not enjoying your tribe, feel free to speak my language. It is the widest fast spreading language in our country. Even Chinese are learning it this time.

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  45. These fool irritates me. Who doesn’t know that our NRCs demand for information for Village. Chief and District where one comes from.

    May be Kakoma has lost his NRC. Those of you who have time to talk to him please let him know that tribalism in North Western Province is real and what the President of Zambia is trying to do is do away with a Zambian being identified by his TRIBE.

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  46. It’s dog eat dog politics. Remember Barack Obama was repeatedly questioned if indeed he was born in the USA? Actually Trump championed this, but it took him nowhere. KK was said to be Malawian, Chiluba was said to be Congolese, Sata was said to Tanzanian, RB was said to be Zimbabwean. That’s politics for you

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    • HH and Inonge would easily be called Zimbabwean and Angolan respectively. Very sad to note how people we’ve known since childhood in Chiwempala, Chifubu , Chimwemwe, Chibolya, Chimanimani, Kansuswa, Kakoso , Mikonfwa, Linda can easily become foreigners just because we want to win an election to become president.

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  47. PF: “Yes We Can! UPND: 2-5 – “It can’t!”; 3-7 – “It can’t!” 11-19 – “It can’t!” Build a new hospital – “It can’t!” Build a new mortury for all Under Fives – “It can’t!” Party of It can’ts! Stuck in Grade One!

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