By Mingeli Palata
You need not have special abilities to see that Michael Sata is a very popular man and is poised for a convincing victory after October 30th. Michael is one of Zambia’s most talented and outstanding politicians. Having served in both the UNIP and MMD governments, he boosts unparalleled experience and has a clear understanding of what the average Zambians are going through. He currently is the only politician that seems to have a quick fix herb to Zambia’s economic and social incapacities. Michael Sata is a strong wilted land great leader; he is one of the few leaders who has the ability to alter public sentiment to his favor. Sata indeed has great oratory skills!
In the last three months however, Rupiah Banda and his cronies have done exactly what any political strategist was hoping they would not do, if they are to win this election. The first bit come way before our late beloved President was buried; a proposed increase in salaries for ministers and constitutional office bearers. This not only amounted to wrong timing but constituted of the highest immorality on the part of ministers seeing as the vast majority of Zambians are still wallowing in abject poverty 44 years after independence and 17 years after this very government took over from much condemned Dr. Kenneth Kaunda.
The second mishap was the very composition of Rupiah’s campaign team. Mr. Banda courted individuals with questionable characters and backgrounds. Individuals whose very names bring back horrifying memories of corruption and abuse of public resources. Yes dear readers, individuals who our late President distanced himself from as much as he could. With this, Rupiah’s ability to continue our late president’s good progress was compromised.
As if that was not enough RB then engaged himself in questionable conduct beginning with the distribution of sugar during a campaign event, use of public resources and machinery by his MMD supporters, chanting tribal sentiments at a rally in Eastern province (when he asked people in the eastern province to vote for him because he is from the eastern province), deliberate reduction of commodity prices such as fertilizers and fuel during an election period coupled with the suspicious operations of the Electoral Commission of Zambia in the last two weeks.
At Present, RB is not the most favorite candidate among the general populace with less than 12 days to go before the polls. From that perspective, the election is widely expected to turnout in Patriotic Front’s favor.
However, just the idea of this country being led by a man of Michael Sata’s standing injects jitters in the spines of most well meaning Zambians. Unlike the majority of the public who are swayed by political tricks and jargons, a few Zambians have taken the time to examine the political, social and personal career of Michael Chilufya Sata.
In close contact, he has appealed to many as a crude, unyielding, cunning and jagged experienced politician, a man who knows neither etiquette nor regard for people with opposing views. Some still remember that Michael Sata was one of those in the forefront of propelling Dr. Chiluba’s third term bid, though it later tuned out that Sata promoted the third term for his own political expediency.
To most of us, memories of the Chawama violence saga where innocent Zambians were brutally injured with machetes and beaten by unruly cadres are still fresh. Michael Sata is a man known for unbecoming foreign policies statements that may turn out to injure our nascent economy and relations with friendly countries. Most of the promises that Michael Sata has made like giving free fertilizer are unsustainable and smart Zambians know that are but rhetoric from an experienced politician desperate for a vote.
Worse off, the organization of the Patriotic Front itself gives a glimpse of Sata’s leadership style. Since inception, the party has never held any internal elections. The question is who holds the structures? Who appoints people in positions? It appears like the whole party is by ad-hoc arrangement. The fact that PF has never held a single election to qualify its party structures shows that the party’s leadership has little regard for democratic procedure. It would be very dangerous for Zambia to elect a President with a poor Democratic background. What stops him from declaring himself a life President? If a party’s office bearers are not elected, does the party have checks and balances? Are party members free to express their opinions?
The Good Book says ‘he that is faithful in little things is faithful in big things’. Going by that maxim, it then follows that Michael’s ability to protect our democracy and interests is questioned.
If that is not enough, let’s critique this man further. Every organization is founded on a set of principles and ideologies. Life has it that everything that happens is backed by strong reasoning. What is the background to the Patriotic Front? Why was the Patriotic Front founded?
UNIP was founded to liberate Zambians from colonial masters, MMD was formed bring about multi party politics and free trade. With these reasons came fundamentals, core vales and beliefs that govern the respective political parties. Therefore the fundamental values and beliefs of a party have a bearing on how the party will run its government once elected.
What about the Patriotic Front? Why was it founded? What are its fundamental values and beliefs?
The Patriotic Front was formed after Michael Sata disagreed with Dr. Chiluba’s choice of the late President Mwanawasa as successor. If that background is anything to go by then the Patriotic Front was formed out of frustration by a disgruntled leader with Presidential ambitions; Michael Sata. This background makes it easy to conclude that the Patriotic Front is a personality cult. It means that the party’s sun rises and sets on one man, without whom there is no party. The party is about Michael Sata unless if I can be persuaded otherwise but indications make the later obvious. Under such circumstances democracy, objectivity, checks and balances are not guaranteed.
Would it be wise for Zambians to hand their fate to one man? Is he trusted to protect the constitution? Can he be trusted to lead Zambians from economic wilderness to the ‘Promised land? I leave these questions to be answered by voters on the 30th of October.
Essentially this election has transformed into a referendum on weather or not Rupiah Banda can be trusted to continue the policies of the late President. What has happened now is MMD has run the campaign recklessly and hence have fallen short of public favor. People generally do not trust Rupiah Banda and his associates to run this country so as a result they have turned to Michael Sata’s appealing promises and rhetoric of low taxes and more money in your pockets without critically analyzing the man and what he stands for.
I challenge Zambians to look elsewhere for answers. In this search they should look for someone who can protect the constitution, improve livelihood, reduce corruption and who is best suited to continue with the economic strides made by the Mwanawasa administration.
Anyone short of the aforementioned elements is a dangerous choice for Zambia; Mwanawasa’s work risks being buried with him.
PABWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
uliwabufi mambala. Pabwato
This chap is Tonga and he is simply asking zambians to vote for HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Mambala tuli PABWAAAAAAAAAAAAAATOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and nothing will change our minds.
ARTICLE MAKES SENSE. VIVA RB
And who is the author? Trying to disuade? We will vote with our eyes open come 30 October and it ll be: Pabwato, boat, canoe, Mwamukolo, yacht, liner, etc.
Da article starts so well…but ends in askin for pipo to vote for the wrong candidate…its PF all da way mudala!!!!!!
Go Sata Go
It is clear Analyst you are UPND, what led to the formation of UPND? Why not ask that aswell. As a Zambian I think the best way forward is change, economic growth and education. These parties have manifestos, what do they say?
kwena walyonaika!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nipa bwatoooooooooooooo Viva Sata
Ni pa bwato fyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
good analysis in the article…better reason now that learn the hard way…after 30th October, the election exitement will be over and we will be back to real life…wina azalila. Dont say you were not warned enough.
Amen Palata…..Amen
From the tone of the article you sound lke a UPND suppoter. Tell us the formation of UPND. I was supporting MMD but now UBWATOOOOOOOOO. Viva Sata Go Sata Go…..
U have said well but who do want us to vote between the those 2?Who in your eyes is Zambia’s capable leader?All we want is change from the MMD government it’s been too much of them and if voting for SATA is the case then let it be at least he talks sense unless RB who is ever plundering government resources and once voted into power will continue plundering without mercy of our country as he knows that his days are numbered any time soon.Even u say Sata is of questionable character,LET THERE BE CHANGE in Governments.MMD Zwa!!!RB ZWA!!!Nyama soya Zwa!!!
ba #14 ZimaNdola
What change are you talking about???
Sata has been in power from UNIP to MMD. Is that change honestly??
It is like saying you want knew sheep but you pick from your old flock. Is that knew sheep????
Can you be serious. Sata has been in govt from UNIP till MMD and that is not change.
should be “new” and not “knew”
#13, I like your approach. We have to reason here! From what I know, UPND was formed by brainy Zambians (Mazoka, Chisanga,Sichinga etc) who thought that MMD had lost direction on developing and uniting Zambia. Their common theme was to “develop and unite Zambia” hence the name “United Party for National Development”…anybody else has some data?
Infact if we add Sata’s carrier as a colonial policeman, we can conclude that he has been in govt from Roy Welensky to UNIP to MMD.
That is not change.
#18, good argument man!thats real analysis…so now lets nail it down, Miyanda and HH are still in the pot. Whats the take?
This analysis should be stored in archive for 2009-11 reference.
i for one do not care if you support upnd or miyanda i think the article makes sense the problem is people are very forgetful in zed. Quick fixes is what they want coz thats how they like it they forget there is tomorrow.
and also its a shame that most of the people that make comments are outside the country and do not grasp the consequences as a business person i know this on account of the many times i have been back in zed on behalf of clients.
#19 Engines
I don’t know about you but to me, HH just seems right.
it’s change just come on board. We are in the liner.
mwela onse.
This analysis lacks truth. His reflection is based on one area statistic. The overall results will go in favour of r b.
The article is articulate and on point. But of course Bemba nationalists are bent on electing Sata. They will be disappaointed. The trouble is that they think Zambia = Copperbelt and Nothern. Id Sata wins Zambia will go to the dogs.
can someone talk to me natulala bonse tuli munchende. vote wisely. ifwe kuno ku chibuluma ni pa bwato fye epela. lobe/.
That was quiet academic. Never mind people look for realistic promises. If Rupiah can reduce Fertilizer from K200,000 to K50,000. What will be impossible for Sata. PaBwatoooooooooooooooooooooo!
Good analysis. I was PF but changed to UPND. If u ask any PF official or even SATA how PF is going to get the money for building secondary schools in all 9 provinces in 90 days, lower tax, more jobs, more money in yo pockets, all fail to explain. Any Pabwato guy from here to help? They exaggarate things. Then some of you, you just keep shouting pabwatoo and you dont know your manifesto.
Mingeli Palata In the next 12 days please give us the case against the MMD,UPND and the ka Heritage party.Will be grateful
#28 uliche
vote wisely
RB has blandered for the image builders he has brought.He has plundered the national resources more than ka kafupi
Ba LT yashani
Sata Micheal Chilufya, no looking back!! GO SATA GO, GO SATA GO. Bonse nipa bwatooooooooo.
we have just waken up kuno missisippi, fresh minds. wats up.
Excellent writing. If you knew how young the writer is, you would agree that we are doing something right as Zambians in terms of education and producing critical thinkers. Love the objectivity and maturity in this piece. Keep it up friend!
Mingeli Palata,
I find your argument ladden with individualistic fallacies other than objective analysis subject to empirical evidence.At most you are driving your argument on what you read in the post newspapers without inferencial data.I agrre with you on sata’s tyrranical leadership susceptible to blaze this country and push it into factions and localism. Disagree with your insinuation on the leaders around RB and corruption.These are the same patriots that served Mwanawasa election after election.Chitala was dropped on philosophical difference.Mwaanga was vindicated by the reconcialtion out court with Katumbi.Lewanika was there with LPM in 2006. so who is a detriment this time?
meant to say there were no PF cadres(suppoters we have no cards).
PF Vice President Guy Scot hardly a few years ago robbed Zambian farmers of their 10,000 livestocks GRZ bought for restocking following a disastrous Denkete. In addition to that, US $467,000 meant for livestock dips across the country was embezzled.In return Chiluba fired him as Agriculture minister a scandal many serious fathers in Southern, Central and Eastern farmers will never forgive him for. That was crime against humanity considering that farming in these regions is a life line.It was after dismissal that he formed Lima party, then another failed party before finding his mate the money laundering thief Sata.
Geoffrey B.Mwamba a relative and close confidant of Sata is a corrupt chap your paper the post entangled in the case that led to Southern Province Minister recently who lost the job. Beside that GBM is a money launder and active Drag pusher rejected by the MMD into its leadership ranks for years despite all his manipulations.Your President Sata unlike all other freedom fighters who entered jails for the struggle against colonialism, his has been on pure grounds of crime and public theft. In 1993, Mwanawasa resigned from GRZ because of his corrupt practices that he brought to the MMD he joined at the 11th hour at the kabwe rally addressed by late Mwanawasa.
The analysis makes good reading,however, the author fails to show critical understandng of the nature of African opposition political parties.The basis upon which an opposition politiccal party is formed,in the case of the PF,is well known.Provide checks and balances to governent.It is he who funds the party most that heads it.If Sata today announced his retirement, the PF would disintergrate and be confined to political history books good for the archives.Unfortunately, this is the nature of politics in our country.The question really is, what can we learn from all this?My opinion is for us as a country to lobby for a constitution which limits the number of parties to a maximum of three.
Sata’s years of corruption were in conspiracy with Doctor Jumbe at medical stores, winter Kabimba at Local Government and Joyce nonde his fifth concubine. Public funds he accessed would be banked in a lading abuse way at Standard Chartered bank in his personal high yield accounts until it gained interest forgoing development projects and emoluments for the local Authority workers.He is the one that had the conscious of shipping public funds to the tune of ZK2billion to a party convention for paying Kadolis to swing pangas against anti third termers and pro democracy movements.Today Sata has undeclared US $ 27,000 laundered money confisticated with the SA government
Like Mama Kankasa has rightly said, Zambia deserves a unifying leader.Your Sata is an irrational separatist radical too inimical to our national unity, SADC regional cohesion, vision, economic and security integration.A blunder with him is nothing but undebatable recipe for national and regional instability through civil war, anarchy, segregation and more separatists’ movements.Openly he has revealed his hatred for all these regions he calls buttocks. Demographics are not favoring him.
Don’t be cowards in a democracy, do comparative analysis and build your opinion there.Leadership is not for the cold hearted or those in concuns hoping nature will have their way.Sata is a wrong chap and winning is something that would stun any patriot and activate them many to systematically avail themselves in plans of liberating the country immediately under siege of sata’s tyrrany.
Democracy is not measured by having twenty five political parties.It is the attainment of goals in a peaceful manner.Goals that serve the majority of the people.Don’t they say democracy is government of,by, and for the people.If MMD lose this election, it is undoubted that they will become another UNIP.Their rle in the political dispensation in Zambia will be confined to the back-bench.I do not see anyone formidable in MMD leading the party to any meaningful comeback.With PF in power, Sata will call for a party conventon where he will legitimize his presidency through an open election.Quite frankly, Zamba needs a man of Sata’s stature.He is an achiever and we all know that.
CORRECT ARTICLE ALL YOU HAVE WRITTEN HAPPENED. SOME PEOPLE LIKE LOOKING SOMEWHERE WHEN THEIR FRIENDS COMMIT CRIME. THIS LEAVES US WITH HHH HHH. WE HAVE TRIED THEM, NOW ITS A CHANCE TO TRY REAL LEADERS. WHAT EXPERINCE? EXPERIENCE OF POVERTY,SLASHING PEOPLE, INSULTS, CRIME. ITS HHH HHH NOW, 2011. THEN ANOTHER BREED.
He will learn political etiquette while in Plot 1 as he will be surrounded by “image-builders”, like RB.MMD as a party sowed it’s seeds of destruction when it allowed one LPM to suspend the election of a party veep, for selfish reasons.Why do we regard someone ascending to the Presidency as untouchable.Who told him that a big party like MMD could do without a veep.?These are lessons that we need to learn from and improve on.No man is eternal
Sata may win but disaster may follow. You can not teach an old dog new tricks..
#45 Pragmatist you amaze me at your level of analysis yet suprise me even more, how after such analysis, you end up supporting MMD. From your writtings, one would think you would end up cancelling out both MMD and PF but how you endorse MMD says something how an inteligent person can be rulled by other shallow considerations. You have lost it my man…come back where you belong – free n real inteligent thinking. #47, you are spot on! #48, come on, stop sloganiaring…be real!
Misleading oneself with the fallacy of landslide victory, the other lamentably failed to be objective with nature of plural politics, index of voters’ disposition and nature of undeclared localism voting patterns.May sweep Luapula but Lusaka, Western Province, Southern, Eastern, NW, and central’s demographic may just prove to be his nightmare overwriting many gains he may get.North will be hard for him too to emerge decisively other than a tail gate exit.Clound are confusing the author who evidently exhibite his distance from the register of legitimate voters.Analystical lessons will be picked from this race.
This is the best article I have ever come across this year so far BUT the only negative is the absence of UPND.
LT, you’ve outdone yourselves on this analysis. It could not have been said any better. Infact, commenting on it just waters it down. So I advise everyone here to just say – VIVA HHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#53, you are promoted to Queen…you are spot on!!! But ur flag is that of Sweeden?
Is that analysis meant to make ppl change their mind about who to vote dont be biased jst state what you want to say dont influence votes
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Well written article and very balanced review of Sata. Please is it possible to do one on each candidate????/PLEASE it would give a depth view of what choices face zambians on the 30th.Once again thank you.
#54, I don’t know why ka flag aka from ba LT. I’m in London. Buckingham Palace to be precise lol!!
anyway…….
VIVA HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goodnite yo’ll
Nice argument but you have failed to bring in other players like UPND and Heritage party.if UPND was not tribe party objective people like Bob Sichinga, Patrick Chisanga, Sakwiba Sikota and Given Lubinda would have still been there.
Palata. Your article is meant to sway opinion by agreeing that RB and his cohorts have so far bungled right? Then you go on to smear some negative light on Sata, right. Then you leave. My view is that as I have already said on this forum, RB vs Sata, Sata is a better worse for Zambia. Sata Vs HH, at the moment, becuase of the technicalities the country is facing with NCC; Corruption cases, Malaise, Brown Envelopes, Timing (remember it is only a copuple of years before 2011), Sata is the best fit for the job, despite all the odds. Sata’s combined positive and negative attributes are the right mix for Zambia right now. Any other time, probably not.
ecHi-ecHi tipped to win the 30th October elections by a landslide> iwill be posting the details on here soon.
Impecable sources of imformation have lead to this result.
Sata is accused of not holding elections i.e. undemocratic bla bla.
People, where did our very own of blessed memory the late LPM come from? Democracy? Are you sure? What about the same RB?
nice article but very wrong timing….its too late….pf sata is winning landslide on 30…read sundays post….mammoth crowd in kapiri mposhi….for those who dont know where kapiri is….its in central provine regarded mmd stronghold….but why are you coming out now to discredit sata huh? where have you been all this while? maybe some of us would have changed alliance..? but you learned people who seem to know sata only show up at the 11th hour to discredit him….c o w a r d s….i m b e c i l e s…..if we sink under sata we sink but God help us we will surely swim….
pabwatoooooooooooooooo
Pragmatist you do have a very analytical approach, but I have to concur with #50. How can you support the behaviour of MMD in the last few months? It shows that when it comes to MMD’s crimes, you turn a blind eye.
I am being censored!!! Help!!
Pragmatist your writing style… stop showing off. Communictae effictevely and stop selling your ego with your grandiose vocabulary.
I fear for mother Zambia if this racist tribal thug, sata wins.
One of his henchmen, a former call boy named Scuna is waiting to be ambasodour.
Sata is a raw dictator, who was at the fore front of FJTs 3rd term.
Infact at the last election that Sata nearly won, master plunderer X.Chungu, was shouting at how his time to return to Zambia has come.
All plunder cases against pipo from the north will be droped.
Infact do not be suprised if PF is funded from plundered money hiden outside Zambia.
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Relax all you Zambians, S A T A ain’t going no-where in this 30th October 2008 election. The election is a F O R M A L I T Y in favour of ecHi-ecHi. The brother, ecHi-ecHi has done his home-work which ‘ma some of us’ call A S S I G N M E N T. These characters showing propaganda have simply run out of ideas.
Countdown: 11 days and we are counting.
Victory is fully certain, ecHi-ecHi tipped to win by a landslide.
Thats correct analysis. We all know here that the right person is RB.
RB for president. His name has been turnish because of the post unprofessionalism in reporting.Fred hates RB.He said so from the begining.If sata wins…It will be proof that Zambia was never ment to develop. If you are living abroad call it a blessing.Don’t come back.Zambia under sata its a shame. I fear for you guys.When you will be pabwato I will be skiing in Canada as I will be watching you sinking.
#70, do not worry about cheap propaganda by the POST and these ‘far away from home and reality’ bloggers. echi-ecHi has already done his (HH) homework. We are flying home in number come October 30, 2008.
ecHi-ecHi has come for REAL CHANGE and NATIONAL RECONSTRUCTION where family values will take centre stage in the lives of Zambians. Economic independence for each individual from babies to grandpa – RBB and SATA included.
Countdown: 11 days and we are counting.
Victory is fully certain, ecHi-ecHi tipped to win by a landslide.
results in % and alphabetical order as compiled by cnn/bbc/reuters/sky/aljazeera/foxnews/cctv/cnbc/etc….-CENTRAL SATA 60% RB 30% HH 10% -COPPERBELT SATA 90% RB 7% HH 3% -EASTERN SATA 40% RB 35% HH 25%-LUAPULA SATA 89% RB 10% HH 1% -LUSAKA SATA 85% HH 10% RB 5% -NORTHERN SATA 75% RB 22% HH 3% -NORTHWESTERN RB 80% HH 15% SATA 5% -SOUTHERN HH 85% RB 14% SATA 1% -WESTERN HH 50% RB 48% SATA 2% OVERALL SATA 49% RB 31% HH 20%
the author of this article has shown a great deepth of analysis on the two candidates SATA and RB. I think this is a fair analysis if read from a third point of view, that is if one is not biased.
Narrowing the microscope on SATA and RB reveals the intricate characteristics of the candidates. the author critically analyse both candidates based on character trait. Fellow Zambians, how can we tell if one is a good leader or not? You can first look at character trait because it tells you what sort of person one is.
you do not need emperical or scientifc evidence to judge one’s character. the author is simply saying look for good leadership traits in the candidates as you go to vote
What are RBB’s and SATA’s position on the NCC?
Countdown: 11 days and we are counting.
Victory is fully certain, ecHi-ecHi tipped to win by a landslide.
#72, I have also seen the projections by BBC , Can someone confirm How is the mood like in the country.
Zambia izalila Sata aka wina. You have been warned. If you think Mugabe is bad – you aint seen nothing yet!
Mugande was going to be the best president for Zambia, but I dont know why the MMD NEC voted for RB and this is likely to cost them.
I sometimes think that us Africans deserve the dictators we get. I mean how can anybody with Sata’s record be considered to be presidential material? What will make people see him for what he really is, why are people so gullible? Am not saying that MMD is the best for the country but you really can not vote for somebdoy voluntarily with a long track record of corruption and violence. The very things that have been holding our continent back.
This article hasn’t stated any negativity to these 2 candidates, all is more than the truth and it leaves us with the man of the moment: Viva HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. What else do you want you people?
# 78,Lets be sincere ,Sata violent acts but is not corrupt. And you must well understand that having some embeded autonomy is the only way our country can move forward .The Asian tigers states of South Korea and Taiwan are the best example for you. My fear is too much democracy is killing our country, the projects cannot be implemented before the some silly comments from the independent newspapers and that is likely to fail.
#78, what makes people vote terribly for useless caharacters is tribalism first and then illiteracy second. Just look at the analysis by PF’s Sata supporters on LT and you will notice my well thought anwer to you!
Countdown: 11 days and we are counting.
Victory is fully certain, ecHi-ecHi tipped to win by a landslide.
#72, You must be dreaming, Satana can never score so high %ages. The man has been in the Northern and Luapula provinces for more than 2 wks, how do u expect him to perform maliciously, Mind you, the heart pbm is by the door, its gonna strike anytime. I have been calling my relatives and friends who are all over Zambia and the story I am getting is the same. The man of the moment is carrying the day. Viva HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Bloggers do not mind about the different flags on my psotings, I am, the one and same original Maestro Hhehhehhehhe.
Countdown: 11 days and we are counting.
Victory is fully certain, ecHi-ecHi tipped to win by a landslide.
# 82 , Why do you enjoy living in fantasy, HH is probably the best candidate ,but is not commanding the support we expected. #72 just gave you the BBC projections .
#84 Just acknowledge that HH is (not probably) the best man we have to lead Zambia amicably at the moment. Coming to those %ages, I believe you can as well concur with me that they are not reflecting the slightest truth. Unless the %age error was plus/minus 80% on the figures indicated to be scored by Sata, this is the fact.
#85, yes I agree with you very much , but you should as well understand that politics goes beyond economics. Zambians need to be convinced as to why they should vote for HH,not persons like but also villagers who understand little about Macro and Micro economics .
#86 and all, villagers are the ones who will give HH more votes this time around. Wait and see.
Let me sip whiskey before the before I collect my fishing nets.
the villagers in most parts of the country are receiving Chitenge material and fertilizers from MMD.This makes it almost impossible to win the majority vote of the villagers in our country due to extream levels poverty.
Actually, maybe it will be good if Sata wins. He will be so excited at the proespect of becoming pres that his heart might give out……
While that would be an intereting case #90, the thing is that under all costs, even if it means RBB moving out of the race to field HH against Sata have to be done to make sure SATA gets nowhere near being Zambian President.
11 days is a lot of time for serious people to make reason decisions that will help Zambia avoid a catastrophy of placing SATA at Plot 1.
Former Zambian Republican President Chiluba, a close ally to SATA, d r i b b l e d Sata for a very serious c l a s s i f i e d reason only known to himself (Chiluba) but also that Sata is not P r e s i d e n t i a l material – KK was even clear and quick to mention this point. Zambia should not allow Sata to even be President for a second, let alone a minute. We do not want ba-capya kooku.
# 81 he likes dream how many of you going home to vote for me its like you are in trans vision
#94, I am not going home to vote. The villagers will cover my vote while I trust the educated town people will do the needful.
Countdown: 11 days and we are counting.
Victory is fully certain, ecHi-ecHi tipped to win by a landslide.
Kwacaala buyo anshonto, tulaba kabotu mucisi ca Zambia.
The person who wrote this article is not well informed and is baised. Pf as a political party endorsed Michael Chilufya Sata as their presidential candidate its even there in one of the articles by LT.He was chosen by members of his party. What internal elections is she/he thinging of or talking about.
Just accept the reality as you mentioned in your earlier statement October 30 winning of elections is synonymous to PF Michael Sata as Republican president. He has potential won the election, we re just wating for the swearing in ceremony. Ni pabwato bane. Pabwatoooo. In the the boat or in other words on the boat.
If we a s s u m e that the voter’s register of 2006 is used in this Presidential election and the c e n s u s 2000 numbers obtained from the CSO, the following (next posting) is what would appear as final results. In fact, I expect this to be close to the reality that will happen at the end of it all:
Province Registered Voters HH RBB Sata
CB- 625505 118846 106335,9 369048
Lsk- 592511 183678,4 254779,7 124427,3
Southern- 503221 452898,9 45289,89 20128,84
Eastern- 498649 4986,49 488676 19945,96
Northern- 464910 9298,2 13947,3 306840,6
Central- 381930 183326,4 30554,4 160410,6
Western- 316102 227593,4 88508,56 3161,02
Luapula- 312593 3125,93 3125,93 315718,9
Northwestern- 244599 217693,1 2445,99 12229,95
TOTAL 3940020 1401447 1033664 1331911
HH would win nicely.
Sata is certainly headed for victory. The bootlicker on the blog in he name of Pragmastic is still living in utopia.
Ask villagers why when the chief appoints his suceesor, and the opposite is done, doom is the order of the day?
RB and his cronies the bena Ma prastic, your days are numbered.
” PF, more Kasaka mutumba”
Since, the above results (#98) use a model where there are no spoiled ballots, I now give you the percent numbers which will reflect a pattern that will most likely be seen on November 4, 2008:
Province % HH %RBB %Sata
CB- 19,00001 17,00001 59,00001
Lsk- 31 42,9999 21
Southern- 90 9 4
Eastern- 1 98 4
Northern- 2 3 66
Central- 48 8 42
Western- 71,9999 28 1
Luapula- 1 1 100
Northwestern- 89 1 5
TOTAL 35,57 26,23 33,8
countdown: 11 days remaining and we are counting.
HH tipped to win the 30th october 2008 Presidential elections by credible and trustworthy data analysis though still premature at the moment but will be correced in time I think.
VIVA RB!
MMD have to blame themselves in the manner they have conducted themselves after our beloved late president Mwanawasa. The issue of bringing on board people with wrong charecter i. VJ,AKA,SAKI,Chitala,Chiluba and many more.us in MMD we wanted Magande.i urge PF if you win remember Magande in your camp.
Mudala have you been given a brown envelope? Too late we have made up our minds Mubwatooooooooooooo. 50 pin fertilizer is as good as free to me a rich man .We know you and please stop using mwanawasa in your nonosense, Let His Soul Rest In Peace.
Politic are about numbers. Sata may not be a good leader, but his follwers can not match the MMDs or HHs or worse still HPs.
So, imwe ba Mwadya Mweka Dad, think and think deep.
“Osati kubwasa bwasa kwaba Prgmastic”.
#100 continued to give a complete picture.
Province Bemba% Tonga% NWP% Barotse% nyanja% mambwe% Tumbuka% other% Total%
Zambia as whole 0,326666667 0,164444444 0,12 0,097777778 0,192222222 0,045555556 0,028888889 0,024444444 1
Zambia as whole 32,66666667 16,44444444 12 9,777777778 19,22222222 4,555555556 2,888888889 2,444444444 100
So here is my first impressive proof that the POSTNEWSPAPER, current mouthpiece for Sata, does report news truthfully but without making mention of the exact factors on the ground. In one of their actilces on Rupiah Banda and Tribal voting, the POST indicated that the Bemba population in Zambia is at 43% while the Tonga one is at 17%. Quite rightly the POST gave us a correct number for the Tonga group but deliberately gave us an unfinished representation of the Bemba one (43% = 32.6% Bemba + 9.78% Mambwe) figures. Take note that all the smaller tribes and languages like Namwanga and Bisa have all been included in the Bemba language calculation.
I have full confidence in this presentation.
The Kitchen is getting too hot for the faint hearted why all this now???? Cheap blackmail will not do! some of these chaps writing these articles and those responding are ShuShu!!! Remember we know RB also from NAMBOARD and as Governor for Lusaka…..and we know why MMD was formed was for change to remove the old man KK and Plural politics…etc Palata we know its not your real name just Jump in the boat and stop this nosense..Sorry you are feeling the Satamania fever like never seen before. This week we are in Slwezi and Mongu Mwamukolo!!!!!!!!!
it s true that The Post is campaining for Sata. Sata at one point said he does not want to deal with the post and they responded that lets hope sata will not coplain about coverage. but they still continue to cover him nicely by spicing his comments to woo people to his favour while they are denouncing RB. when RB coplained about There writings which are not true they still continue. The Post wacth out when sata beacomes president you will regret because he is firm.you will feel his wait it will not be too long from now
Continued….
Southern: Should win here with ease.
North-westen is a tonga leaning people so HH most likely wins here.
Western Province: in the absence of a lozi voters will go with a tonga hence hh.
Based on this HH wins just over 35% Sata 27% and RB 20%
This will be to the distaste of many but I am just letting you know how zambian politics stand right now. This is how shallow we are!!!
the Begining of my story was cut:
Sata Wins: Luapula, Northern and Copperbelt because of the bemba dominance.
RB wins Eastern and Lusaka (slightly over Sata) because of the Nyanja influence here.
Central Province will go for HH becasue contrary to what many ppl think MMD is not strong here and just won because of Mwanawasa. In his absence HH will carry it becasue of the Lenje and Ila influence here
#108, just in case you missed the news, Sata went to apologise to the POST over his earlier statement that he would not deal with the POST. It was on the front page of the POST for all to see it. So, the POST and Sata agreed to work together after that incident. Infayakiti (In fact), let me look for the ‘POST and Sata reconciliation’ article for you – lulu – now. I will post the results shortly if I find them.
#108, here you are:
Sata apologises to The Post
By Chibaula Silwamba
Tuesday September 09, 2008 [04:00]
Patriotic Front (PF) president Michael Sata yesterday apologised to The Post for the unfounded accusation he made against the newspaper a fortnight ago. Confirming the apology yesterday, Post managing editor Amos Malupenga said the newspaper has accepted the apology because forgiveness is part of life.“Mr. Sata phoned today (yesterday) explaining that we perhaps just overreacted to his statement because we fully know that him and The Post have been very good friends for a long time,” Malupenga said. Source: maravi.blogspot.com / 2008 / 09 / sata – apologises – to – post.html
The we are in #112 “…him (Sata) and The Post have been very good friends for a long time,” Malupenga said”… lulu.
In Tonga, we have a saying “zyembela beelene”, which litellite translates to things ‘go same to those who are of the same nature’.
That is the POSt for you. Infayakiti (In fact), the POST’s Fred mmembe is Bemba/Lozi – and is very bitter about his LOZI-CHILDHOOD experience such that he detests his fellow lozi people though his relation with them is on his mother’s side: shame indeed. Sata and Mmembe are both Bemba people in one way or another. Hence the Bemba-Tribalism attachment in both of them reflected in the POST articles. Yaba!
I have difficulties believing that anyone who ever vote for Sata. The man is not fit for the modern world and believe me Zambia will go back to the 1960s. I dont know why we are attracted to mediocre leadership. Those days are gone and we need new and fresh blood for a modern world. HH for president, Zambia forward!
#114, the reason is simply tribalism. look at how the POST’s mmembe has handled his courtship with Sata (his (mmembe’s) fellow Bemba) while painting non-Tribal HH with Tribalism and labelling the might UPND a Tonga party only functioning in Southern province. Both Mmembe and Sata point at others as Tribalists while the forget that 4 fingers point backwards to them with one finger in the front to someone else, say RBB.
#115 continued.
T r i b a l i s m takes all s e n s e s of reasoning in us all human being.
#116 continued.
Unfortunately or fortunately, we still have a duty to teach our young Zambian children to t o l e r a t e such v i c e s like t r i b a l i s m if they (Zambian children) ever hope to live well among themselves and develop Zambia to the fullest possible extent.
i forgot to tell you this, UPND was formed when tongas where left out on the list of presidential materials. they had to look for rich tonga boys like late Anderson. to be a president in this party you need to have billions, not brains or experiance. this you can tell by the way HH seceeded the presidency in UPND. you can’t be president on UPND if you are not tonga. who said if you are a good farmer/economist then you are fit to be president? HH is good to be a farm director, or fair enough an agriculture minister, to start with. if you think am lying ask Bob sichinga.
Since when did Sata become an Angel? The guy makes a good Farm Supervisor but not a Farm Manager! Ask any journalist in Zambia,he/she will tell you about the nasty encounters with the Cobra. I’ll personally never forgive Sata fot the Chawama-Third Term saga.Have we honestly forgoten the numerous times UNZA and CBU students were bitten up; the multiple closures when then Sata was Minister Without Portifolio(MMD Brutality Campaign Manager).
The Presidency is not for the likes of Sata. Let’s be honest! Let’s choose from the other three.
If you vote recklessly, Sata will be stoped by Chipolopolo, Period!
#118, nice reading from you again.
#118. Your a s s e r t i o n s, baba, on the UPND’s coining are not correct or is it the way you have phrased your sentences isnt. Mazoka created the UPND. It was not the UPND which went round looking for Tonga rich bulls. On Bob Sichinga, he (Bob) is a very interesting character.Mazoka nursed him into what he became of politically but now that he is alone Bob Sichinga has simply failed to prove his worthy on political frontiers. This is tuypical of opportunists who fail to stand on their two feet when their support is gone.Look at what Sakwiba Sikota is doing to himself now. I called it political sucide. Anyway,I will leave it here and continue with 30/10/08.
# 117 you have shown us your true colors (typical tribalist tonga who call others balumbu) your postings are just based on Bembas, sata and Mmembe if you have nothing to write write nothing.
#118, suerly i would love to learn how Mazoka managed to CREATE UPND alone. on wat principles can an individual create a party to run the affairs of the country big as zambia? i did say Bob is prsidential material either. he’s too emotion like a woman but he has all the story about UPND. shed more light my dear.
To be honest I don’t mind change. We have been stuck into this cautious, safe and mediocrity mode by the MMD for 17yrs now, while only politicians are the ones benefiting from the country’s perceived success. Drive through Lusaka and you will see the signs of lack of leadership and the feeling that no one is in charge in this city. Traffic lights don’t work. Buildings in poor state. Look at Findeco house, Society house! There is something wrong in this country. There is no leadership to see all these things are wrong. No one is in Charge. All politician are just driving SUVs and slaughtering young girls at P.Motel. Am VOTING SATA. SOMEBODY NEED TO TAKE CHARGE. I DON’T LIKE SATA BUT he will t
#122, hhehhehhehhe, the TRUTH hurts! I could have written about Nyanjas (Nognis, Chewa and Tumbukas) but there is really nothing to write about them at this moment. These writing are about Fred Mmembe and his POSt newspaper with Sata folowing comparisons with GRZ media (ZNBC, Times of Zed and Daily) together with RBB.
Mmembe thinks he can dupe well read Zambian minds, but alas he can may be cheat Bembas because he is one of them. I have based my writings on facts and backed up data. If I have cheat or unfairly writen something wrongly on here please quote it and advance it to me. Take Careful Care Always.
#123, you mention that Bob Sichinga is too emotional, what then makes you believe what he tells you?
Remember, what is needed is to face reality and be objectivwe as oppsoed to being emotion. People in Zambia seem to like ascending to power on a silver plate. I have consistently mentioned that I was no sympathiser of late Mazoka in his time even if I am Tonga – my voters card is proof of this fact. However, I now know and believe that HH is the right candidate at this moment to take Zambia foward. Not because HH is Tonga, but comparing him with the other Presidential candidates.
Ever since opportunists left the might UPND, HH has managed the party well. Their is discpline among his MPs
cont’d from #124..SATA will take charge and stamp his authority and get our lazy system functioning again. Believe me an Action oriented man with a poor plan will be beat any smart man with a great plan with no action action. We need somebody to get the civil servants working to move this country forward. Sata did with Lusaka City Council and I think that is what we need on a national level and he is the only one who can provide that leadership. All these HH, Miyanda, and RB will just give us a false sense of security amd satisfy intellectuals on this blog, but really do nothing for our people. Walk though Lusaka and see what am talking about..
maestro no need to be emotional here…you postings show deep emotional hate for sata..unfortunately only less than 100 people with internet actually read your postings..the majority dont even know bout internet…and they will vote sata….some of us have come to accept the reality of sata winning…..and like someone said….if the country sinks…..we all sink…BUT GOD HELP US WE WILL SURELY SWIM…..the projections i gave are based on votes casted and validated..its immaterial for me to consider damaged ballots…sata will win by 49 % rb at 31% hh 20%…….
#126 continued.
The UPND’s National Management Committee works on unanimous voting to do things. HH listens to people on the ground and apologises when he makes a real mistake (Joyce Nonde saga in 2006 elections).
HH was elected democratically at a UPND convention where two Tonga businessmen contested the Presidency of UPND with the then Veep and Acting president Saki.
Compare this UPND case to the PF one. PF has never had a convention. We do not know whether the PF’s constitution is a decoration or what. Sata is always in arguments rifts with his MPs. Consensus, has never been heard of in PF….t
I would like someone to tell me exactly what Sata will do for the country. If we are not careful, Zambia will slide into chaos like some neighboring countries of ours. People let us not settle for third best, we need to move on. The dirt and dust in our country is too much. We must progress and the time is now. HH for president, Zambia forward!
Sata’s failure to bring his MPs to reasn with them properly shows us that he can not work with the current Zambian Parliament which has a mandate upto 2011.
if we sink under sata we sink but God help us we will surely swim and for those who cant swim…dont worry those of us who know how will surely carry you… SATA IS WINNING..read SUNDAYS post someone said central is upnd stronghold….hmmm i think you misguided…central is PF 60% MMD 35% UPND 5 %
# 126 even if they had put D.munkombwe as UPND presido you were still going to support him because he is finish the sentence.I have lived in Mazabuka and i know how you guys behave, always calling us balumbu.
#126: i get your point my dear. you are UPND and Tonga. the rich boy is good but inexperianced, thats a fact you equally know. come 2011 my vote will be on HH. i promise you. is this a deal. so vote pali ba Noah mwa mukolooooo
If Sata has failed to manage 44 or so MPs, what makes you think that Sata can manage to move things with 150 MPs?
I do not hate Sata, no and not at any one time. I do not do drugs or hate fellow humans.
In fact, I would like to meet him one day face to face to give him constructive criticism while congratulating him for a good hard fought fight in the Presidential races he has participated in.
I want the best for Sata in this life and this is why I have advised him to sit for Grade 7,9 and 12 exams concurrently up to 2011/2.
I am ready to support PF…
…if it holds democratic elections…
…to a s s u r e us all Zambians that they will not…
madala, you mean you dont ve sata’s number? the young man sata gives pipo his number. very free. give me HH’s number?
… man/woman handle …
… our Country’s C o n s t i t u t i o n if they a s s u m e government mandate.
Let us just face reality. Zambians are being driven by poverty. Zambians want someone who will bring back dignity, respect and liberation. I think Sata understands, we the poor Zambians who are going through hard times.
#134, I can not vote or joing the PF currently because of Sata’s disposition. This is not because I am Tonga. I have worked with a lot of Bemba peiople from Childhood. I fact, a close female Bemba friend of mine – whom I was with at the UNZA – is the best feminine friend I have in this life.
I love Sata so much that I go out of my way to give him credible advice. We have 10 or so days before this elections and so let us all tell Sata to endorse HH for now. Then when our constitution is fixed under NCC and normal elections come in 2011, Sata can probably stand for Zambian Presidency. Let us see how HH will handle 150 MPs until 2011 which is very near.
If you look at Mopani Copper Mines Management structure, you will be amazed to see how Peruvians are occupying influential positions at Mopani Copper Mines. These guys don’t even have papers. I hope you and your Rupiah are all aware of the modern day slavery at these mines. Guys things are bad.
#142. About having Sata’s number, I do not need to have it. All I want is to meet Sata face to face so that his usual sarcastic intimidation methods can be quelled. Sata needs to learn manners even if he is fit to be my grandfather. He (Sata) has very terrible interpersonal skills – some call it PR, Public Relations. Mingeli Palata, I do not have HH’s number, but you can find it at http://www.hakainde.com. I remember seeing his contact detail there some day.
Anyhow, all the best to you, Mingeli Palata, and I wish all the Presidential aspirants success. May the current best man, HH, win.
Interesting piece of analysis, though you’ve failed to scrutinize HH with the same precision?! Fact is, we basically don’t have much of a choice this election, it’s like trying to choose which of the geyzers is a better DEVIL…!
# 145 not just poverty but also the Insults these Investors smear us with, we are tired of them. VIVA SATA
I think MMD has failed to address important issues, especially mining. Theses investors are making a lot of money and we are getting nothing in return.I think 17 years is enough time to address these issues. MMD should go period, they have failed to look after Zambians.
They have no Respect for the Black man.
Good Article LT. Zambians, the choice is ours. The answer is very simple, the YOUNG MAN will liberate us from this scourge. AMEN
#151, 17 years with Sata having worked for 10 years.
What new thingy is he going to do now which he (Sata) was not willing to share with Chiluba if he is a truly patriotic Zambian.
151.
Certainly, Mr. Sata has presented himself as a believer in the rights, wisdom, or virtues of the common people.
PF aims to decentralised power from central to local government.
1. A comprehensive housing development programme which would result in the development of new housing estates with all the necessary amenities and facilities in all towns and cities. These estates will provide decent, low-cost housing to people who are currently resident in squatter settlements.
SATA SEEMS TO BE GETTING THE LIFE PENSION HE NEVER THOT HE WOULD GET. FROM THE FORGOTTEN ARCHIVES OF POLITICS, THE DUSTBINS OF POLITICAL RHETORIC, HE COMES TALKING A LOT OF CRAP HE CAN NOT IMPLEMENT. LET BY-GONES BE BY-GONES. WHEN ARE WE GONNA LEARN…
A strong believer in virtues of the common people, Sata will continue to inspire confidence in “US” the poor Zambians. We need someone who will speak for us. It’s now modern day slavery, come to the mines and see how we are treated. Councils have no proper source of revenue. Viva PF PF
Common people!!!!!!! that’s the underlined word. Don’t just give sugar to people.
All in all lets us annalyse issues beyond political rhetoric or else
we may vote for someone whom we will live to regret.
I wish we could have a live phone programme of all the Presidential candidates and see who will come out with real life issues affecting Zambians. This will accord Zambians to have an in depth of Miyanda, HH, RB and Sata. What is wrong with ZNBC kanshi? Finshi bafisa kanshi?
#142 Please stop impersonating me, I am not in the US. I am here in Zambia thank you!
Ala! Ba MMD bali tumpa. How much money do they want to put in there pockets?? How long are going to be subjected to lies. They think they are developing Zambia economicaly but the pipos intelligency.
Now we can all see the type of politics and disire to accumulate more they all have. same goes for this so called HH who accumulated shares because Chiluba gave him a chance to Negotiate the selling of Companies, He’s getting richer by the hour and claims it’s Brains!!??????
A kulu mpuno, Na imwe a HH go and try Marriege Counseling. Akulu Mpuno, kapena sumungakwanise na ku counsling’a vikwati chifukwa munakwatila Mkazi mufana.
Pa Bwa Bwa Bwaaatoooo all the way!!
Ba mambala bonse ni Panshi.
we want change !!we want change !!we want change!!no old people and heart pateints at state house this time around ….umwaiche aleteka !!! HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!! for Zambia and Africa indeed!!look at Jakaya Kikwete,so young and energetic and smart…so goe for HH!!! that analysis by Poor Finishers is a desperate move!!!forget…satana will be buried this time around !!! VIVA mwaiche !!!
The people will decide and I hope you respect dem decision. Or else…WAR!!!
Short, this is the time.
Vote for H H the man who does not mingle with time wasters and lairs.
if fuel will still go down from what it is now what is impossible with Sata in the 90 days. Sata has been around yes but he wasnt Presido, but the sooner he is, you will see the action. Mwanawsa was around under Chilube, could he perform? nooooooooo but when he became Presido, he has left a MARK.
Viva Sata, go titanic go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maestro Please!!!!! Give us a break twakomba buyo mudala. I suspect you have been away for too long. This vote is not about Sata. It is more of a protest vote. People have cried and no one seems to listen. The Rebel Mps for PF went to NCC for the sake of extra Kwacha…Its all about Poverty that has become tooo much. I was in Kanchibiya last week…It really breaks my heart to see the poverty levels there hence people are saying pa Bwato Chabe..Mukashi wandi njipikila insembe ifintu kwasha besha..MukayamaIcintu…Cintu umwene!! Satamania is here to stay!!!!!Pa Bwato.
Ni pa bwato, southern, western, north western have realised ni pa bwato, mwa mukolo enisha!
I think the point of the article has been missed by many, it was presented, in my view, to underline the undoubted strength of PF/Michael Sata but in doing so it is askin pertinent questions thats any right thinking zambian should be asking…no blacks out, lower taxes?? All this at a time when the world is heading to recession and the funders of over 50% OF OUR BUDGET are grappling to justify the greatest ideological conflict of our time (ie nationalisation of private business). we need from our polictians much more than simply rhetoric. FYI im not UPND or MMD (anymore, RB is junk)
a. Sata is planning to be life presdo for Zed once he’s in power.
b. RB 72 wants to bring UNIP ideologies once elected Zed presdo.
c. Br General wants to rule Zed in his dreams, but has no confidence.
Vote for H H he’s young, knowledgeable and has good plans for Zed.
#167, ndalumba musa, Munya. Previously I used to write that it is either HH or RBB, but now I only have one candidate remaing – the man HH. I do not want to hear about rigging issues after the elections and this is why I took time to give you all a pattern of tribal voting that was started in Kanchibiya 2008 elections. Under tribal voting, only HH will make it because of the relations HH has with the common Zambian.
I am looking forward to reading good news headlines on the 4th November 2008.
countdown: 10 days 14 hours remaining and we are counting.
‘ecHi-ecHi’ has come to redeem Zambians from LIARS.
166. Shu-ster. I am with you. There’s poverty in Zambia.
Chishala Kangwa mwalanda bwino. This is what we call bringing something to the table. Allow me to add..Zedians want ubuteko that has teeth right now RB has no teeth e.g Katele announced that Mulongoti was fired (As Campaign Manager) a day later Katele was overruled by Teta (Electoral Agent for RB) yet Katele (National Secretary) is senior than Teta(Deputy Party Spokesperson)..RB (national Trustee) never set the record straight…Failure to solve utunono utuntu sends shivers mwandini hence pa Bwato!!!
number 170 be serious pls! HH is out of touch with the people…like Mbeki in South Africa
Great article, for more interesting reading check out:
kusilakwacobra.blogspot.com/
#167, are you the Munya i know? code “mukaya”
#161, iwe ka mingeli palata (in small letters) tawakaleke mwembeshi? why should i hide my good id,
Maestro i rest my case my brother…Come November 1st I will be reading the headlines. Hope you are travelling. I am living on 23rd so that we celebrate our independence then wait to vote. Let the popular candidate win.By the way image builders have put a big poster at the airport in Lusaka for RB it says Vote for RB It has failed to change my mind i am stuck pa Bwato!!!!
I meant leaving
In the event Sata wins,we will need a strong leash to keep him in check otherwise he will be a worse dictator than Super Ken.Zambia will be riding a tiger with Sata. The best choice is The General, he can make Sata his vice (attack dog) because he can control him.
#176 NO! Munya as in Shona mwana!!!Thanks for trying dont forget pa Bwato please!!!
i have tried to seach and find out how come people have come to think that HH is popular. the guy will just cause vote spliting. HH should have joined Sata’s camp and groomed for 2011. Imwe, there is no time for experiementing in Zambia. We want the country to move forward from what it is now to one that would be admired. we are already rated the most friendly people that means peaceful and so the economy should also reach this rating. The RB camp is just their to enrich themselves as seen before during the Mwanawasa regime, (the wako ni wako syndrome) etc. awe mwandi, tiyeseko ba Sata,
#174, who is this Mbeki? That doesn’t sound Zedian.
Excuse me maybe KK, Chiluba, Obama, Bush, brown etc
Good analysis but you left out one thing, research more on HH as well. Sata does not have traits of a good president, he is a pure, typical dictator more than the late Saddam Hussein of Iraq. If the general public cannot vote for HH then its better RB continues. Zambians will leave to regret if they vote for Sata as President. Mark my word.
Good analysis but you left out one thing, research more on HH as well. Sata does not have traits of a good president, he is a pure, typical dictator more than the late Saddam Hussein of Iraq. If the general public cannot vote for HH then its better RB continues. Zambians will leave to regret if they vote for Sata as President. Mark my word.
lets just give this Sata-ana a chance. Lets see where the money is going to come from.How on earth he can subsidize ferts, build schools and nationalise contarcted investments.
if the pipo do make the mistake of choosing this lunatic then i suppose its better to give him 3 years instead of 5. at least after messing up 3 years we can get rid of him forever and silence this serpant.
Viva 174. You are right. We want a President who will be close to the people of Zambia. A President who will speak for many Zambians. Don’t just give sugar. This is 2008 as Zambians, I think we know what we want. Viva PF
#181, hard lucky
#175 what is on that blog? i believe now people know that Sata was dribbled in the 2006. And of course age has caught up with him, he might not have the chance to sail as to the safe place all because of our self leaders. all they have done is imense themselves and their relatives in power. in government ministries all supliers are family tree. you can investigate that fact? what about us the ordinary Zambians? those supporting MMD am sure have never even ripped not even a 1 ngwee. what have your benefits been with the MMD government? Zambians lets be real, lets changamula ba MMD, they must know that we want a working presido no someone on holiday.
Chintu chobe forsake!!!!!!!!!!!
ubwato bwalibunda mu 20006!!VIVA pakubok!!!HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
what if satana goes down with an attack days b4 elections?what happens to you dull chaps?
#186, how come fuel is reducing at a very first rate? how come fertilizer is being reduced? where is RB getting the money to do all these gymnasticks? where RB gets so Sata shall get too. When RB is busy making suspicous donations of sugar, reducing fuel etc it is good (chiwamila galu kuluma mbuzi), atase imwe. if RB can do it why not Sata in 90 days. mule bafye bwino. RB kuya only using state machinery the shall remain in power, not by the will of the people.
ANY NORMAL REASONING MAN CAN NOT VOTE FOR THE DECEITFUL SATA. ZAMBIANS SHOULD VOTE FOR MIYANDA OR HH GIVEN THAT MMD IS CORRUPT. LETS NOT BE PEOPLE OF SHORT MEMORY
#193, you seem to be clever but not so sharp.This money you are talking about is tax payers money. and these chaps in power are mandated to look after it not plunder it for political survival.
Why dont they have money to fix roads and money for hospitals and teachers yet they find the money for other gratifying expenses. what we really need is accountability for these crooks,RB, Satana and all.
Dear all,
Stop crying for Satana to be Zed presdo, he has only few days.His heart surgery has left a huge hole and the Med Doc from morning Side Hsp are worried.He’s wanted for check up and treatment on the 29th Oct 2008.
Vote for H H will bring new Medical equipment in Zed.
We should start contemplating what zambia will look like after Sata Takes over.It maybe time we start thinking of losing those potty bellies because peace and civil liberties will no longer be granted.. We have to be ready to defend our country…running battles in the streets will become order of the day.It is time to check and clean those pieces hidden under our beds and locked away from our children.. Certainly Zambia illiterates, thieves and thugs will vote us out of peace..
#197, i agree. my pump action and 9mm out alredy and cleaned and oiled for any thug who thinks he can just come and take way years of hard work because some serpant has revved them up.
not looking very pretty after elections.
jitters allready beeing felt in every circle inluding our local business comunity.
heard that KCM is not paying any suppliers beacuse they are scared to bring in money to pay suppliers
i would like to commend the author for a good analysis however lets all think outside the box for a second.There are so many projects going on in the country at the moment any change in government will take the country five steps backwards.Investors would rather see the MMD government continue.Any credible leader must wait for 2011.These elections are not about political parties or individuals they are more to do with the countrys’progress.
# 198 research before you write what you dnt know. I have a brother who works their he says all is fine.
What pump action do you have? you dnt even have a spear in your house.
Remember what caused the genocide in RWANDA it is you pipo that report Negatively. we dnt want that please one Zambia
I have two Homes in Zambia and Congo if you Start the fight am off to my native land.
The October 30 presidential race has come to be between two grey-haired age-mates – they are both 71 years old – acting President Rupiah Bwezani Banda and Michael Chilufya Sata. Both are former Lusaka Urban District Governors in the administration of Dr. Kenneth David Kaunda. Both have strongholds. But at this stage at least, Banda has the lead. His lead is attributable to a number of factors, including incumbency and the nationwide spread of the ruling party, on whose ticket he is standing.more on http://www.executive-issues.com
I have observed that most of the comments on this blog are coming from people outside Zambia. I have just one question? Are you all folks going to Zambia to vote? You are saying ni pa bwato, while you very well know that you will not vote unless you travel to Zambia
#203 Where are you? I am on the boat going to Durban. Inching closer and closer. Two days in Durban, sort the mess out and then Zed. It`s amazing how fantastic it is being on the boat. I am enjoying every lttle bit f it. Unlike you, I am going to vote.
Most of these people you see here pa Bwato have families back home who are on the boat.
Pa Bwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Ho Ho Ho!
I`m lovin` it!
Father Christmas never thought ha ha ha land had such names as Migeli Palata. What a wum Mingeli is! Ho Ho Ho!
On the boat batata. Panono panono twalafika. Ho Ho Ho.
# 203 most of us are mu Zed am told it depends on with provider you are using and the route they use am using the Zain Mobile Edge USB that is why am getting the Ba Queens flag am sure we going through the UK. VIVA PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOO, my Wife MubwatoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO that is two votes for SATAMANIA. AMEN
To the writer,Nice critique indeed. Now, there are three front runners in this election HH, BANDA and SATA, the fact that you have only given a critical analysis of two and left the other one open gives an the impression that you have veiled your support for HH. When you look at how PF was formed, you should also look at how HH, Banda, or even Mwanawasa came to be where they are. Where these democratic moves? When you seem to claim Mwanawasa’s legacy was the best, well it wasn’t and will never be. Like anyother human, he had mistakes, the family tree for instance. Is that the way to rule a democratic country?
So let the voters choose who they think will rule Zambia, next.
Our opponents please check the post and see Kapiri was on fire MULILO, MUJILO, Wapya BANDA mudala wanga. VIVA SATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ba Mr. Minister has panicked was cheating in the C/belt province, Satana is on a hired Zed Heli tourist Co from L/stone and the pilot is working for the same as Chief Pilot and has a Zed work permit.He should not include SA in our local affairs.SA is not funding Satana, but the Taiwanese gvt are sponsoring him.
Vote for H H will reduce the price of jet 1.
Man the story here/case seems so nice but i hope the dude would have been more professional by getting all the aspiring presdo candidates.
A simple dude like me with poor educational BG but a strong psychological background would simply say Ok?
You mean H.H or Miyanda ,but why didn’t you analyze them too
Blessings be to Zambia.
My Prayer?
Is this page worth reading? Most writers are tribally inclined just like the presidential candidate. By the way, I hope people can still remember the comments by HH supporters when he can on the scene. I mean the likes of Mwanajiti, Mrs Mazoka and other Tonga followers at the time. I do not doubt Sata’s tribalism of RB’s nepotism. By the way, even Mwanawasa was a well known nepot. If you do not want to be disappointed, just let your fate be decided by others like myself. I have never regretted for not voting.
Is this page worth reading? Most writers are tribally inclined just like the presidential candidates. By the way, I hope people can still remember the comments by HH supporters when he can on the scene. I mean the likes of Mwanajiti, Mrs Mazoka and other Tonga followers at the time. I do not doubt Sata’s tribalism of RB’s nepotism. By the way, even Mwanawasa was a well known nepot. If you do not want to be disappointed, just let your fate be decided by others like myself. I have never regretted for not voting.
Most women wont vote for RB because of the granddaughter wife.
No. 213 you re spot on. I remember, “only a Tonga can succeed Mazoka”
#214 it does not mean that when you are in the USA then expect zambians to behave the way americans behave.
our society is full of unciviliesed people.
I love the analysis given by this man and a good propaganda indeed…Well the thing is we are on the boat and we are voting for the m,an himself…
I wish also to say let the same un-wavered analysis be done on the other candidates as well as this will provide a more balanced view to the voters…
VIVA FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!!
MWAMUKOLO>>>>>>
The article has clearly stated what we expect if this bwato sails to Plot 1. Now the qstn is why should we have a President in this time and age who is grade 4. We are now going into world is experiencing the world’s worst financial crisis and obviously next year the do support to this economy will not be as expected. Since we can not support a our budget 100%, we need to have a Leadership that will seek ways of generating our own resources to finance the budget. This will be either to increase Tax or mobilise and accelerate both local and direct foreign investments. The danger with Sata is that he has no new ideas. He was in a cabinet that ran out of ideas for 10 years,with worst eco declin
Country some of you are failing to raise issues here and busy calling other tribes as being tribal,its not fair we need to analyse issues that affect our country s development.We dont have tribalism as an economical or political or social problem in Zambia.We need to of production erradication of poverty,education,health etc.
# 213 you are right and wrong am Kaonde/Lunda but supporting SATAMANIA. my wife is Lenje/Ngoni but also for you know who guess (sata)
People worry not the BOAT WILL SAIL THROUGH.
PABWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>>>>>
MWAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>>>>>
When you go with a 10 pin you buy sugar what do you get Change is what we want. Twachula pafula, Twayanda pavula.
We Want CHANGE, WE KNOW ALL ABOUT PROPAGANDA AND WE ARE NOT BUYING INTO THAT
MWAMUKOLO FELA!!!!
This man was in the inner circle that influenced deportation of opponents during chiluba times, we are now spending billions of kwacha on constitution which Sata, Peter Machungwa,Chitalu Sampa defended. This man never listens. Those who say he was not a President then they simply do not understand how govt is run thru cabinet & approves motions, all the comopanies which where privatised on liquidated sata sat in that cabinet that approved those liquidation without providing for workers terminal benefits. Where this time is he going to get the money to put in your pockets. Remember how he suppported plunder of resources thru K2billion from Parliament, the K210 million saga.The Merzaf saga,et
Sata wa arrested and convicted in Mufurila when he was a constable there after staeling money from the charge office.CONVICT!Smokes dagga.DRUG ADDICT!Never had elections in his party for 7 years now.DICTATOR!Has failed to retrieve and account for thousands of dollars held in RSA.MONEY LAUNDERER!Too many concubines.HULEE!Merzaf flats scnadal.CORRUPT!Took K 2bn to convention for brown envelopes.CORRUPT! Incited injuring of citizens in Chawama with pangas and machettes.CRIMINAL.Championed third term.UNDEMOCRATIC! Grade 4 .PRIMITIVE AND UNEDUCATED!Took money from Medical stores to pay his office rentals.CORRUPT!Put Council monies in his personal account and earned interst.THIEF!
Your analysis seems to dwell much on the negatives of Bashi chilufya sata. The man is consultative, and at his age to be that courages when the mmd has really subjected us to an foretold misery more especially the way the public sector reform programme was handled. civil servants we are really suffering because of the misplaced priorities.
Viva Pabwato Please
Countrymen some of you are failing to raise issues here and busy calling other tribes as being tribal,its not fair we need to analyse issues that affect our country s development.We dont have tribalism as an economical or political or social problem in Zambia.We need to talk about production, erradication of poverty,education,health etc.
We wont be swayed, we shall press on towards our goal and the results will be seen after 30 October. We re on the boat. Father Christmas where re you?
Voters in rural zambia don’t about intra-party democracy. This time around, it’s pabwato. Tough luck HH and RB
Sata was in both govts and if at all he was in the forefront of looting the nations resources as Pragmatist puts it, why is the law so slack that up to now he has not been visited? Can someone enlighten me. The other issue of plunging this nation into chaos, dont u remember that at one time Sata acted as the republican presidnt when he was min without port. Did we go to war or lose any diplomatic ties? Lest i forget, Sata really knows what it means to be loyal and obedience of orders from superials. If we say he cant achieve, then merzaf, the flyover bridges, nurses uniforms and painted DC offices dont exist in zambia.Iam i dreaming?not at all but did LPM enter by being elected in 2001?
HAI FOLKS THE LINER FEELS COOL AND COMFORTABLE..THE ABOVE ANALYSIS
LACKS RESEARCH..THE AUTHOR IS BRINGING AN ARGUMENT AT A RATHER
LATE STAGE…HE HAS WHAT WE CALL A LOW LEVEL OF EDUCATION.HE DOES NOT
FULLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE AT HAND…THE ISSUE AT HAND IS CHANGE
REGARDLESS OF THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF MR SATA….WHAT EVER YOU THINK
WE SHALL GIVE HIM CHANCE ALSO….IF HE FAILS US AS ZAMBIANS WE
SHALL VOTE FOR ANOTHER ONE WHEN TIME COMES IN 2011..BUTTTTT FORRR NOWWW THEEEE LINER …UBWATOOOOO IS SAILING RIGHT TO STATE HOUSE..AMAKA UBWATOOOOOO AMAKA UBWATOOOOOO
There re prayers at cathedral of the Holy Cross for independence, Rb has failed to go with his wife again and he is seated next to Maureen!
Sata indeed was part and parcel of MMD. But remember, most of the deeds were done by the so called collective agreement. Is Sata the only imperfect character? Nope but we need such commanding people in govt sometimes coz this person hats down is a worker for the pipo
HH is not bad too but with the so called experience, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmh tonga bull needs time to ripen
hey,you guys lets pray for God to give us a leader who wil protect the interest of our future generation.
We made a serious mistake by ignoring legitimate concerns raised by our fellow citizens about rule of law, corruption and the slash funds etc during FTJ, tenure.
We are not going to vote for high sounding slogans but the ability of a condidate to put forward sensible social and economic programs for the country.
You will ignore the short commings of Bashikulu above at your own peril.
we expect LT to be fair and now produce a similar article against HH n RB or we shall just confimn our fears that this is a tonga/lozi run website!!!
We have seen lots of plundering & corruption by RB in the recent weeks. We all know Sata fron A to Z, so at least we are not scared of what we dont know. The “scarely” leaders end good. The “cabbage” is now eulogised.
This Analysit is a Tonga guy intancing people to vote fot Haka
Hivotele.
Can u also tell the nation the values, principles, belief etc on which UPND was founded?
Voters in rural zambia don’t know about intra-party democracy and they don’t even mind. PF has penetrated all these areas. Iwas in Mumbwa, and I chatted with a few people, it seems they’re all in the boat. This time around, it’s pabwato. Tough luck HH and RB
mingeli palata ni shushushu. nibashi zina fye beka apa. mwamukolo mo.
Mwamukolo
RB will celebrate his Xmas behind bars for the plunder of national resources on image builders. Honestly, how can one start building his image at 72 years of age. its nosense…….
SATA REMINDS ME OF KAUNDA. KAUNDA BECAME A DICTATOR NOT BY HIS OWN CHOICE BUT BY THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA WHO BELIEVE THAT NO ONE BUT KK COULD DO WHAT WAS NEEDED THEN… UNITE THE COUNTRY. DO YOU KNOW THAT KAUNDA ONCE RESIGNED AS PRESIDENT? (ref: WINA, S,1985). NOW WE HAVE AN UNDEMOCRATICALLY APPOINTED PARTY LEADER WHO WE THINK IS A MAN OF ACTION AND WILL FIX THINGS FOR US. I HAVE KNOWN THIS MAN SINCE 1980 AND HIS WIFE SINCE 1977. HE IS TRULY A MAN OF ACTION BUT HE WILL UNDO ALL THE HARD WORK WE HAVE DONE TO BRING ZAMBIA TO DEMOCRACY. PLEASE, PLEASE, SATA IS NOT GOOD FOR PRESIDENT. DEEP DOWN HER HEART, HIS WIFE KNOWS IT.
RB has never aspired to this higher office no wonder he was picked from his farm. It would be a mistake to have an optunist at plot 1. Let the people have a vision take charge of our nation. VIVA PAWANTO
#226, Thanks for the up date.The boat is sinking
Vote for H H 30th Oct 2008, I have the keys for plot 1 you will have them, dady
#226
I meant to say that you are wrong, your propaganda will not change peoples position. # 245 dream on.
#248, stop impersonating,that is why LT introduced flags ‘Hands to LT’ i do not support SATAN.Be serious guys thats been a corward.
Write your own comments, i still support #226 and #245. AMEN.
Livingstone you seem to be contradicting your what are you saying please clarify? On on the Boat or Janza?
The author of the article has clearly stated that Sata
has quick fix herbs to the countries economic upheaval. This is good but be reminded to say we need sustainable solutions not mere quick fix because the problems are bound to recur. CHOOSE WISELY
Sata is winning tate.RB = corruption .Picking mulongoti and Teta as campaign managers was a mistake.RB i hate you.
lt it seems you’re upnd ka. anyway zedians have already made up thier minds. how about analyzing how hh ascended to upnd presidency, his tribalism and all?
The economy is a very important aspect of running a gvt.Sata has no experience nor educational basis of running a national economy let alone understand it.In this time and age of our country we do not lack men and women who have both experience and educational know how of managing a national economy.Work up zambaians we can not continue making basic mistakes.We shouldnt let our selves down by putting a kaponya to govern us.Sata has been in gvt since Lewensky days and contributed in wrecking our nation.How much more do you want him to damage our country.History will judge us if we are so careless and irresponsible
#248 is fiction like tom and jerry.Like those days will say KK waku abc ni nani?
Vote for HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,AMEN
I would be ashamed of myself to have Sata as my president.If he wins then i quit zambia.
HH is no where in the story, meaning ni gwele, lisaka, lets forget about him. PA BWATOOOOOO or ICIKOLOKO CAFWA. the boat baba.
PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Those who want to leave can leave
at least we know who we will vote for. meastro does not
#163. Walanda bwino pamo ngecipuba. Upole bwangu before 30-10-08 and vote for Sata
#259, surely I am not voting. I have more importamt business to conduct up here than take my 1 vote for HH. However, I know that villagers will do it this time for HH. In 2006, the HH and late LPM votes were slip between the two as both came from the Bantu-Botatwe. This time HH has no one to split his votes. Hence, my felow villagers will cover my one vote.
Then, there is the issue of the educated. They too will cover my ‘educated vote’. There are people in Zambia who judge things in a normal and non-tribal way and I am depending on them to get HH to Plot 1.
Victory for HH is certain, whether you like it or not.
You claimants that SATA did not help Zambia perform better in his time under both KK and Chiluba Administrations because he was not at the TOP are showing us your f a l l a c y.
there is a lot of hate for HH but whether you bemba thugs like it or not this is our next prez so ya beta start getn cozy wit da whole idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sata is simply finished and he is just creating the hype just like most bembas do. Ichintinya fo nothing. That man is illiterate! That man is sick and that man is dictatorial. If that man died today, there would be no PF to talk about. We cannt trust national affairs to an individual. Evey individual is fallible and Sata for all I know is the worst character you can ever have. Tell me, where is his farm? Where are his businesses? The man is just a talkative irresponsible noise maker!! Even Chiluba knows this!!!
Sata, May be as condemned as people want, but for those who do not know it, he also Built Avondale housing project. At least I worked for a company that designed Phase III & IV, when he was Avondale Housing MD.
To push for the Improvement and upgrading of Squatter settlements, Clean Zambia Campaign, proper expansion of Zambia’s cities, and centralising Zambia as a Transport hub for (Southern) African economic integration, and take this aspect away from Nairobi and J’oburg, which are not centrally located, Sata, with or without Education can do it. Uganda was once ruled by a Prof. What did he achieve? Zambia has been ruled by honorary Doctors, what have they achieved? Vote wisely.
#265, UGANDA was also ruiled by Idi Amini Daada. What did he achieve? Dictatorial tendencies in the blood of Sata. Sata needs prayers from all Christians to ask God to help him desist from implicating other people in things they are not party to. Sata is undereducated and hence his (SATA) education inferiority complex is vehemently outbursted on those are that are way advanced than him. Let him thank that gullible Bembas for this Satamania thing being perpetuated by Sata’ current Mouthpiece The POST.
Victory is certain for HH and “wina azalila”, pamene ine niza seka on 2nd November 2008. I only hope the coming depression will not lead to heartattacks.
#262 (Sata f a l l a c y and f a n a t i c i s m) continued.
The late LPM is currently my model Zambian p o l i t i c i a n who ever lived even if he had his own p r o b l e m s of which some lead to this RBB problem of him (RBB) wanting to a s s u m e Zambian Presidency which he probably never c o h e r e n t l y thought of.
When late LPM noticed that Chiluba and his c o h o r t s were not doing things rightly and that collective moves were compromising his (LPM) personal character, late LPM left the Chiluba Administration to avoid any blames landing on him on misperformances of that Chiluba MMD. He resigned from the POST of Zambian Country Vice President, a very high position. Sata on the otherhand, without any skill to help him live well in his life, continued l o o t i n g us the Zambian people. If Sata is and/or was genuine man with a real selfless heart for Zambians, why didnt he (Sata) also leave the Chiluba Administration by resigning as late LPM did?
When late LPM noticed that Chiluba and his c o h o r t s were not doing things rightly and that collective moves were compromising his (LPM) personal character, late LPM left the Chiluba Administration to avoid any blames landing on him on misperformances of that Chiluba MMD. He resigned from the POST of Zambian Country Vice President, a very high position. Sata on the otherhand, without any skill to help him live well in his life, continued l o o t i n g us the Zambian people. If Sata is and/or was genuine man with a real selfless heart for Zambians, why didnt he (Sata) also leave the Chiluba Administration by resigning as late LPM did?
What a I will not leave any stone un turned attitude at the last minute. Toooooooooooooooooooooooooolate biggiiee. Ubwato nabuya un stopable
MEMBE of the POST newspaper has joined PATRIOTIC FOOOOOLS.On day the so called independent post will bring a civil war in this country.
It’s too late .The ball is already in the net,ne bumba liletota.The PF have scored,this Maestro Hhehhhhh is trying to multiply his views so as too woo un decided Voters.Na uchelwa mune,wasanga tuleteya.I hope you will be strong enough to attend M.C.Sata’s inaugration on 2nd November 2008.
#271 already crying for who? father ubwatoo gone
#272, surely ninsanga muleteya, but tukamipika ububi sana pa 30th October 2008 nokwisa misepa pa 2nd November 2008.
Kwashalafye apanono!
[Bear with my Bemba language for I only use it when communicating with people that have challenges in the English language]
Countdown: 10 days 1 hours remaining and we are counting.
Victory is now certain. Vote for the UPND’s HH for stable political, economical and social atmospheres with unity in the country, Zambia, after the elections.
I agree with #8; the article captures some valid points,although it would have been more objective had the writer analysed the pros and cons of all the 3 major contenders. Yes, we need economic growth followed by wise investment in education, health and infrastructure.
#269 You are right.Sata remained looting our resources and wants to continue.He has no principles and he is not objective.Besides it was only far later that he resigned from unip when men of substance formed MMD.Again it took him long to dump MMD
The writer is right in most cases.But who is perfect.One good thing he has exaulted the works of Sata.It shows that he is definetly a working man.One sad thing is that he has no background of the other leader and in this he disqualifies H.H because nothing is known about him and it is difficult to make a decision based on the unknown.Therefore,the race is between RB and Sata.I for one would like a strong leader able to make strong decisions.Those people who wakeup early in the morning visting bars need a Sata.We have had Kaunda who nearly become a life president but this has not happen,it cannot happen also if Sata tried.For his power to change things,i would still give Sata a vote.
The writer is wright in his analysis in many ways. The problem is that most people are not ready to listen even when things are clear. To me certainly Sata is a KABOVA/KAPONYA who is not fit to rule Zambia as president. Let a kabova/kaponya rule Zambia and we are destined for problems. Which democracy has Sata practiced in his party. You do not need a degree to know that Sata is a hooligan. Is he not the one who wanted Chiluba to go for third term and ensured that his fellow ministers were chased to create room for himself?Has he changed? NOOOOOOO……The bwato will sink Zambia. Do not say that you were not warned!!!
#268,269 & 276. My bros, read my earlier posting on #231. My argument is from a judicial point of view. Why has Sata not paid his dues by being visited by the arm of the law up to now? Remember, Chiluba, who was president had his immunity removed just to gorge up his past abuse of power. Sata was far much smaller in terms of authority much smaller actually than Richard Sakala but up to now, i have not heard that Sata is attending court cases because of plunder. People are just afraid of Sata becoz of one thing, they dont want to work yet they want to reap. Thats what Sata doesnt want. He wants people to work hard and reap where they have sown, not vice versa. Only lazy ones are afraid of MCS
This mind is biased,it digs only in those it hates and lives that which it loves.However,what the mind has said is true about the two candidates but we do not know about the other candidate who happens to be H.H if little is know or nothing at all then it makes sense to concentrate on the two,RB and Sata as this are the two whose record is well known.RB was once fired by KK on corruption charges and in his campaign this has been shown.Sata is a fierce leader but active and produce results.Those people who wakeup early in the morning visting bars need a powerful leader like Sata.KK wanted to be life president and we stopped him,we cannot fail to stop Sata too if he wanted to move this way.
From#280.
FOR NOW SATA CAN HAVE MY VOTE
Be brief and go straight to the point.
From the look of things, one tribe is on the vage of extinction. Come 30th October they will all drown since they seem to be “PA BWATO.”
oNLY 3 PIPO WELCOMED SATA IN MONGU, CHECK THE POST FRONT PAGE.SORINGO SATA
#284 liar. how many eyes do u have?
Ni pabwattttttto! Oct 30th.
count down 20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30th do or die
There will be no polls in 2011 – Sata
By JAMES MUYANWA
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) leader, Michael Sata, has said there will be no presidential elections in 2011 because whoever will be elected president in this month-end’s election is supposed to rule for five years.
And Mr Sata has pledged to restore dignity to Kabwe town by reviving all closed and ailing industries in the once mining district, if elected president.
Speaking at a public rally in Kabwe at the weekend, Mr Sata said that whoever would emerge winner in the October 30 election was expected to reign for five years and therefore there would only be parliamentary and local government elections in 2011.
Mr Sata said th
Iwe No 288, wachosa kuti nfo iyo. Osayamba kunama bantu. Vomela chabe ati yakugwila Satamania.
Pabwatooooo… Mwamukoloooooo…
you dull bemba boy!!check in todays Times of Zambia!uli kumunnzi ku luapula?
Reading through some of the comments posted makes one realise we sure deserve the politicians we get.
#279 Sata did well in the 80s and that is history.From then till now i cant not say sata achieved anything.Ubulimi bwakale tabutalalika umwana.Zambia was headed for doom without LPM interveining and Sata was one of the architects of the doom.Do you remember he was bootlicking Chiluba even incouraging him to change the constitution in order for him to go for the third term.Sata is no longer what he was 20 yrs ago.So forget about him being president for Zambia.He is history just as UNIP.Sata was never among the founders of MMD and PF is personal to holder for him.He has never had a convention even.His MPs are marginalised by him
Yah nkani ya 5 years iyi. i think the const does not state wether the president will just continue or rule for another 5 years. let the legal exparts tell us
127#. Zambia at the moment needs someone like Sata. Miyanda disappointed many people. Otherwise he should have been the right man for the job but I am not sure about him anymore or ever. Sata has a strong character to lead this country at its present condition. LPM came to realise Sata’s criticism in many aspects. Sata has the interest of a poor Zambian at heart to enjoy: healthy, education, etc. Not all these for apamwamba only. We want a leader who when he says no spitting, commiting nuisance he stands by it and not swayed. Not these people who cannot clean their bedrooms and steal to go and sleep at Pamodzi with prostitutes. We want to see a clean Zambia, education, health and improved cp
compounds. Some of these guys we know can do nothing. Others economically independence will be on paper and charts………….
The other one for sure was found at the right place and right time with no VISION at all! People talk of tribalism ask people who were priveleged to work with Sata will tell you. You will find that most Bemba who wanted to use the tribe with him to gain favours failed very badly…..He is above tribe politics. You work hard and perform accordingly you will never regret. Abash laziness in Zambia!! Lazy characters want easy money will not like Sata. PABWATO! WATOO……
Bye bye MMD, welcome PF. Mr Sata we are here for you. Come 30th October we are going to put our vote on on Pa bwato. Mr RB you can not be the reader off our country. Zambia need sata just go back to Chipata and do your farming. Pabwato viva
#292, good thinking. Sata is history and the problem with history is that it repeats itself. You do not need to be among the founder members to catch the dream. Most of the MP’s from PF believe me won the parley seats becoz of Satas popularity. Just a case of the immediate elections as well as the famous Nchanga bye elections where chimumbwa was shown the red card. The rebel MP’s are in this precarious situ becoz of the NCC allowances. I tell you come 2011, unless something happens, the likes of machungwa are headed for doom. No one will vote for them.if all the 26 resigned from PF, they will be replaced at the click of the finger just like that.
People are afraid of sata coz of laziness
Mingeli Palata !!!! Great article .. You just forgot to tell us that this Sata is sick and occationally collapses. Good work i hope my PF colleagues we’ll use there heads to listen not just with their itchy ears. I just dont know what next lie Sata we’ll start that they’ll believe…. You guys do us a favor … dont turn zambia into kndergarten where political jokers are respected.
VIVA HHHHHHHHHH.
BA Post akaso. they couldnt even show the big crowds for HH in Kabwe…
Fellow bloggers. Article 38 stipulates that in the event of a vacancy, there shall be a presido election within 90 days and the presido shall be elected persuant to article 34 which stipulates that a presido shall be elected into office for a period of 5 years. What i have not found in the const is continuity of the office of president. Is it automatic that every after 5 years parly has to be dissolved and new elections conducted or could we be headed for another constitutional black hole? Sata as reported by the Times of Zambia says no polls in 2011 for presido. bushe chacine olo alelota shikulu?
The writer of this article has been used and guided by image builders…………….
MMD zwa!!!!
Who is Mingeli Palata LT and why is there no indication of where you got this story from?
Okay #300, i just read article 88, whenever NA dissolves itself under article 88, there shall be pres and parley elections so i bet shikulu alefimwena muli five years so he can rule more, iyo twakana. Its just this 3 years batata ba Sata. You have to deliver or else u will be the only president whose presidential life span was the shortest. Pantu come 2011, we need definately fresher blood in the likes of HH.
Still more fye articles 34, 38,39 and 88 are ambigous. We need a const by 2010 to sort out this mess we have found in.
Migeli Palata is a young man in his 20’s who hails from chingola
Well written article. The writer is urging everyone to think critically before casting the vote. Can someone talk about Sata’s claims that there will be no election in 2011? Does he want to do away with constitutional provisions? I think we need to debate this ladies and gentlemen.
All you guys who are insulting Sata are saying he is not winning. If so why are panicking? You can only panic if you sense danger. As for his education- tell me how many educated people helped with the fight to free this country. Sata you are saying has no education but how come he is a cosultant while so called educated only specialise in begging for beers. o yes dont argue we see you every day all over town
Already sata is declaring in today’s newspapers that if he wins there will be no elections in 2011; are we safe with this chap?? Zambians please vote with your heads and not your hearts. Dont be cheated by this dictator.
Michael Chilufya Sata has been reported in today’s newspapers saying that if he becomes president, zambia will hold no elections in 2011. I tell you we are in trouble with this man. If he ever ascends to power that will be the end of the rule of law in zambia. Next we’ll be hearing that all those who dont speak bemba should be chased away from Zambia. Im off to tell my relatives in rural areas to make sure that they dont vote for this dictator. Zambia is in trouble I tell you
What is this I have read in today’s newspaper ati ba sata is saying there will be no election in 2011. Even me his ardent supporter Im getting a bit cold on the feet with this statement. can someone from PF please discredit this statement before you scare us from voting for the big man.
What has happened to the POST newspaper kanshi? At a time such as this we should have been relying on the post to give us an objective analysis on the politics in the country. But they choose to turn themselves into another Daily mail and times of zambia! Im so disappointed with the post. I only hope this election will not mark the end of an era for the post as the most respected paper in zambia. And I hope sata will remember mmembe for being his election carder (which I doubt). To bad ba post, what happened to you?
Thank you for this article-these are my concerns exactly. Lets be wise and listen to reason. RB can’t be trusted, Sata has dictatorial traits, we don’t want another Zimbabwe. By default lets vote for HH. (No I’m not tonga by tribe, in case someone thinks I’m talking along tribal lines)HH is the wisest choice of the 3.
The author of the article in the Times is financed and guided by image builders just like # 301 Lukena, has stated. What else can you expect from govt run tabloid?
Post also has an article on the same rally but doesn’t mention of the 5 years.
Just accept, Satamania yamigwila chabe. Naiwe chi # 290 Anonymous uziba
we simply have a flawed constitution which has never addressed continuity in terms of the office of the president as article 34 just says this person shall rule for 5 years (not even consecutive). I bet SATA is also thinking in terms of the article especially about the 5 years coz no where in the const has it explicitly said if parley is in session then the president who is elected shall just rule for the remainder of the term left by the former president. The only reason we have seen MP’s who were voted due to bye elections not continuing for the stipulated 5 years too is becoz the president always dissolves parly becoz its his duty to do so as there has been not point in time where ou
contd from # 314 there has been no point in time where our NA dissolved itself, in this case even the president has to follow suit so that fresh elections take place. If LPM was alive, he would have dissolved NA sometime in 2011 so that the same year within 3 months after dissolution presidential and NA elections take place.
BUT I SHOULD RETALITE THAT THE TWO ELECTIONS ARE NOT MANDATORY THAT THEY TAKE PLACE AT THE SAME TIME
Zambians are too analytical thats why you don’t progress ba mambala. You are busy making noise whilst your relatives are busy starving. No politician will fight for our cause apart from ourselves, we need ukuchivivula and make these chaps in government work. Anybody holding a high position in government and is not improving our lifestyles kumuponona. People should be willing to serve with all their heart and soul, not just asking for votes in order to fatten their accounts. The Zambian Renaissance begins…………………
I bet we have these elections at the same time due to costs only otherwise the tripartite elections are categorical in essence and each can take place at a different time but in line with the limits in time like 90 days after the old NA a new parley must be in function. So SATA is dreaming on those lines and it will be better if LEGAL exparts tell us.Otherwise, the president’s tenure is categorically enshrined in article 34 as 5 SOLID YEARS
I think we have a serious problem in zambia in that we lack civilization. Surely, I dont expect that people that are civilized can attack each other on tribal lines. It really saddens me ladies and gentlemen. Tribe is not something that something that an individual can chose or change. No one choses to be black or white, tonga or bemba. We must learn to judge each other, and our leaders to be on character. If we continue to be uncivilized, like we are potraying ourselves on this blog, then it will take a miracle to develop this country.
I Entirely agree that When you vote Sata, you are throwing the ballot papers into the bin. Just count the numerous scandalous issues he has been involved in, probeld by ACC, sold houses to collegues and cannot even manage his own MP’s do we want a dictator?
I Entirely agree that When you vote Sata, you are throwing the ballot papers into the bin. Just count the numerous scandalous issues he has been involved in, probeld by ACC, sold houses to collegues, Merzaf Saga too numerous to count. He cannot even manage his own MP’s do we want a dictator?
Here is man who says I will drop charges against Chiluba and next month he forgets what he says and u-turns.
Vote for him at your own peril and the economy.’ If he wins next will certainly be Mayhem like the Chawama. People have shot
memories.
This is a comment from a season business journalist.
Mr Smith
Viva! to the writer for investigative journalism.Otherwise it was needless for you to go that far coz Sata’s casual mentality is as clear as white and black. HE IS NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL period! Unless you have just arrived in Zambia or you are in a state of denial.
I wish you could wake up soon and VOTE FOR HH,he is not without mistakes but he is the best option available for a better Zambia.
Mark my words.
Zambia my beloved country.
You started well but later degenerated into mediocrity.Michael is the man of the moment in Zambia.He is pragmatic and understands the plight of the poor.He deserves a chance.Viva the boat.
Bemba thugs think zambia is bemba. tell ka Post to stop misleading us. let them tell us wat happened to Sata in western province despite cheating people. lisholi.Brothers dont depand on the pictures in the post to gauge ur popurity. people at rallies are all not ur members or not voters. Friendly advice dont cry foul when u lose there is no rigging just work harder with ur propanganda POst
if you not for sata and PF make it a point you do so before tomorrow and dont say you were not warned.viva PF viva Ubwatoooo.abena KITwe atishani uko muleoba.
#323 watch it dont be a tribalist you killing your own president HH and RB if you say that.Its one zambia one nation viva pabwato
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