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UPND vows to go on with their public rally, but Home Affairs advise against the idea

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The United Party for National Development(UPND) has vowed to go ahead with a public rally scheduled for Sunday in Lusaka’s Kabwata area.

This is despite police refusing to issue a permit for the event.

UPND Deputy Spokesperson Cornelius Mweetwa says the party will go ahead with the rally because the police have not given any reasonable justification for refusing to give them a permit.

But Inspector General of police Stella Libongani says police has already given enough grounds on why they did not give the permit to the UPND.

She says she supports the stance taken by Lusaka division Commissioner Joyce Kasosa on the denial of the permit to the UPND.

Meanwhile the UPND has given the Zambia police service a forty eight hour ultimatum in which to apologize for allegedly brandishing it to the general public as a violent party failure to which it will seek legal redress.

The UPND deputy spokesperson says the party will proceed with legal redress if the apology is not received from the police within two days.

But Inspector General of police Stella Libongani says she will only react to the ultimatum after it has been served to her by the UPND.

And the Ministry of Home Affairs has said that, in view of Police in Lusaka denying the UPND notice to hold its planned rally in Kabwata on grounds that the opposition political party cannot be trusted to hold a violent-free rally, UPND should go by what police have advised.

In a statement to the media, Home Affairs spoeksperson said that the Ministry is aware that the Lusaka Division Police Commissioner Ms Joyce Kasosa has invited the UPND for dialogue over this development and as Home Affairs, they encourage this move.

” We therefore encourage the UPND to respond positively and dialogue with police and come up with an amicable solution,” the statement said.

“If UPND go ahead with their planned rally with or without Police approval in kabwata this Sunday, they will be breaking the law as they will be conducting themselves in a manner likely to cause a breach of the peace.”

” After being informed not to go ahead, they will have themselves to blame for the consequences of their acts and they should not claim that they were not forewarned, ”

” We therefore implore UPND to dialogue with police unlike taking a confrontational approach towards the issue as police are not willing to be at variance with UPND but instead promote a spirit of dialogue as stakeholders, ” concluded the statement

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100 COMMENTS

  3. Sad!!! I think Police should be neutral in all decision making. Unless they can prove it that this rally would result in bloodshed, then its justifiable. However, if this is coming from SATA…NA then the Police should think twice. This is why Policemen are fired whenever new government take over, otherwise they really really need to read the law-understand it-interprete and know when to use it.

    • Do you need any justification when they publicly stoned a policeman last week with no public apology from UPND ranks. I think opposition parties should not be denied public meetings but when they seek provocation to incite publicity then really that defeats the object.

    • #3 MWALIKWATA AMANO? UPND ARE SO VIOLENT THEY DON’T NEED TO BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE VIOLENT ACTS ON PEOPLE. THE INNOCENT CHAP WHO WAS HIT BY A BRICK IS PROOF ENOUGH TO BAR THESE MAD COWS FROM CONDUCTING RALLIES TO ONLY DISTURB CIVILISED CITIZENS.

  4. imwe ba pf naimwe, tell the police to just let these good for nothing F**#@’s go ahead with their rally.
    that way you will be able to gauge their popularity and make you work hard. why are trying to stiffle the opposition? should we all now conclude that you are jittery of HH.
    by the way is this the same kachap we call ka under 5? whats the big deal now?
    kalekeni kasabaile naimwe…. who cares!

    • Mature, if Joyce Kasosa allows these lunatics to go and get beaten in Kabwata, the police will be blamed. Believe it or not in Kabwata the UPND will be whipped by the masses. They have no presence in this contituency and the rally is born out of malice as they are trying to provoke PF to fire Lubinda. Is this really a good reason to hold a rally? If they go on without a permit, Kabwata PF and all lumpens should just give them a good thrushing and police should not rescue them at all! ATASE FYOLA!

    • #4, IT’S NOT PF TO MAKE A DECISION. IT’S ZP- ZAMBIA POLICE. PF HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. PF HAS GOT MORE TO DO WITH BALLOT PAPERS.

    • So what all of you are saying is that it is not UPND that will provoke violence but the PF? Very well, good to know that we aren’t the fools for wanting democracy to thrive.

  5. imwe ba buju mu lei chinika ala!!police are an arm of governmnet and not an arm of the ruling party..no ur place otherwise oneday u will cry..govts are here today and gone tomorrow and PF will not rule forever ask unip and mmd!–be professional ba mambala

  6. Mukabakande bane ! Kwati balibelela though last time i checked to was you bujus on the receiving end of the beatings.

  7. Meanwhile the UPND has given the Zambia police service a forty eight hour ultimatum in which to apologize for allegedly brandishing it to the general public as a violent party failure to which it will seek legal redress……But is it not true that UPND is second to UNIP in terms of Violence? facts are there to point at… Mumfumbwe violence between UPND and MMD, Chilanga violence Between UPND and MMD, Livingstonce Violence initiated by UPND etc

    • its only last week that they were apologising to the same police for the violence that resulted in one officer badly injured.
      ciwamina galu……….

  8. Obama made it clear the democrary we enjoy was intrusted to us and we shld up hold it, Zamibia is a republic and the privaleges shld be enjoyed by every one not by the few as in a kingdom setup. our duty isto act for the course and protection of democracy that the future and live it and enjoy it.

  9. UPND is a violent tribal bitter party who should not be allowed to pollute the citizenry with their hate speech. I wish to applaud the gallant police service for standing firm against this bantustan enclave club which has taken hitler’s hate propaganda as its party manifesto. The is no difference between how the Nazi party behaved and the UPND. Infact HH is the reincanation of adolf hitler seeking to promote his bitterness and hate in Zambia. Viva Sata, Viva PF

    • Wait one day. These PF ugly looking chaps (brains and actions) will soon be history. Then you will dance the new music.

      Time is money

    • Cindy, not all days are Mondays! Don’t take people’s patience for granted! Your pf police can easily cause anarchy in the country if you are not careful!

  16. Take yo to Mazabuka mwilatupanga ichongo u want 2 disturb our piece unless mulande ati kukaba Danji crazy tukashaneko Donchi Kubeba ba HH.

  17. Mr President just allow the UNDP RALLY okey maybe even next week,why have they choosen kabwata?is it due to givens issues well i hope NOT given is needed for national development. PF GIVE US THE DEVELOPMENT not the bickering and state of emergency arrangements…..

  18. If you keep things bottled up and under pressure, eventually it will explode. The police are only making matters worse and asking for a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  21. Lukaba elo plus munamenya boma bazamimenya muzaibala ku spellinga UPND izankala NUDP (nude party) shamboko ichosa vovala ka! Mukabwele ku kabwata.

  22. we will mobilise ourselves in numbers,,for sure upnd should not be mistreated like this,, as if we are not in our own country zambia,,we will be there.

  24. this time iam for H.H and upnd not sata who does not come out and see us how we are suffering..sata wawaaa…viva h,h for stsatehouse

  27. They should just be allowed to have their rally, after all they cannot cause violence if they are not provoked by external people.

  28. H. H NI FORWARD MUDALA..WE WILL MAKE IT,,WITH OUR PRAYERS WE WILL, GOD IS THERE FOR US AND THE NATION AS A WHOLE.

  31. ba mweetwa mwakula sana imutwe,poor guys are the ones who are been beaten by police meanwhile iwe naka hh ninshi mulenwa cow dung mixed with chibwante na mabisi at your homes,mwanya boma ni boma police will deal with you try it .muletinya kapokola mukamona.

  32. Who gave the Police the right or powers to issue permits?. Which law gives them this power of whether to accept or deny a rally to a political rally?. The law is very clear.Notify them before the event takes place not get permission from them. How many police permits did SATA get when he was in opposition?. He only notified them and went ahead to hold the rally.So why is he twisting the arms of the law to suit himself?.UPND go ahead,let history be written that you fought for our right to free asembly.One day SATA will answer for his crimes,together with his cheap commissioners.

  37. @ Kwekwe & Mature. I couldn’t agree with you more! UPND were invited to meet with the ZP to discuss the way forward but have decided to ignore the call for dialogue. As usual our youths will be used to further some selfish politicians agendas, who will not even be in the frontline should violence erupt.

    All I can say is ‘chindiks yaliwamapo ukuchila ponoks’

  38. If I were PF, I would prevail on the authourities to allow opposition parties to hold their rallies. It is easier to deal with what appears to me as wholesale rejection of PF and its policies in bite-size portions .The continous suppression of the opposition is unsustainable in the long term. Inevitably, the opposition will get their chance to have a rally and given the number of times they have been obstructed by unconstitutional use of state machinery, I imagine they will have record breaking numbers . The PF’s continous suppression of the opposition is very poor political strategy. I’m reminded of Dr Kaunda’s insistence that Zambians wanted a one party state and how it gave birth to the MMD – warts and all. PF if you have ears to hear.. listen

  40. 90% contributors on this blog do not understand why it is difficult for the police to trust UPND. UPND has a long standing history of violence remember the Mumbwe saga, Livingstone, lusaka, eastern province and not forgetting the death of a innocent man axed to death. Also during bye elections. My undes=rstanding is that UPND should brand itsel as a peaceful and caring party. Secondary, those who are comparing USA or Britain to Zambia is like poking your eyes with a steel bar.

    • PF has a long history of violent compared to UPND. I have been a PF member and i know the chaps very well. UPND is a peaceful party though they lack leadership..

    • So UPND caused all those violence situations among themselves? Am sure you know that if you provoke them they will react and protect themselves after all they don’t have protection from the police! So what was that pf cadre doing at the Woodlands police station if it wasn’t to provoke UPND cadres? And you expect them not to react when they are being harrased?

  41. Have a rally in Mpongwe and Livingstone and communicate the same views UPND people wants you to talk about really issues grow up lads

  42. I have been in SA for 30 yrs. Never have I seen party leaders like Buthelezi or Bantu Holomisa organize the so called shanty township rallies except during election campaigns. People have time for everything in Zambia. Why cant UPND organize such meetings throughout the country like Mansa and Solwezi where people are less pre-occupied?

  43. 31, Its one of the more crued crimes that even a bush product will defend. #31 to a politician you need to be smart, pragmatic and more importantly per attention to the rules of engagement. For sure Sata showed how an opposition should play with the ruling party. There were times when they he was frustrated by the MMD but applied the rules of engagement by sticking to the rule of law applying for permits long before. UPND want to hold a rally in Kabwata because they want to start campigning and if anyone says they will brutalised anyone. Paramilitary officers will meet them and there brutality will meet with the uniform of brutality

  44. THE REASON OF INFORMING THE POLICE IS TO HAVE SECURITY, THEREFORE IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF INFORMING THEM AND DO IT IN YOUR OWN WAY.
    UPND MUST BE AWARE THAT EVEN ASSASSINATIONS HAPPENS AT THE RALLYS MOSTLY. SO THEY NEED A SPECIAL SECURITY FROM THE POLICE. IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS THEY WILL STILL BLAME ZAMBIAN SECURITY AND THE POLICE.
    THEREFORE IT IS JUST LOGIC THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE POLICE.
    UPND SENT A LETTER OF APOLOGY TO THE POLICE WHICH MEANS THAT THEY ARE GUILTY OF BEING VIOLENT.

  45. I conquer with UPND for once-national mournings are irritating and disrupt the entertainment business etc but so are the so called township rallies!

  46. GUYS CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE UPND`S SYMBOL AND THAT OF THE NAZI? I ALWAYS GET CONFUSED. BUT I BELIEVE IF THAT WAS PF`S SYMBOL, PEOPLE COULD HAVE ALREADY LINKED IT WITH HITLER, BUT IT LOOKS STRANGE WHY CAN`T THEY MAKE IT MORE ACCOMMODATIVE THAN THE WAY IT IS.
    I CAN OFFER THEM A VERY GOOD SIGN IF THEY WISH.

    • mazoka was a freemason, hh is a freemason and nazi symbol has the illuminant symbol written all over it.
      the fact that zambia was declared a christian nation by chiluba was to bar people like kaunda, mazoka (now hh) from contesting the presidency cos christ and satan do not mix, do they?
      so those calling hh as the future president of zambia are just grobbing in the dark.

  51. mazoka was a freemason, hh is a freemason and nazi symbol has the illuminant symbol written all over it. this is the UPND symbol.
    the fact that zambia was declared a christian nation by chiluba was to bar people like kaunda, mazoka (now hh) from contesting the presidency cos christ and satan do not mix, do they?
    so those calling hh as the future president of zambia are just grobbing in the dark.

    • I agree 100%, only Christian shall take charge of this lady called Zambia. So any free mason should forget about it. No wonder even AK could not rule because of his being a free mason. So ba HH, accept Christ as your personal saviour, otherwise, tamwakaipule boss.

    • That was one of Chilubas biggest mistakes. No country that truly wants to have a real democracy should have any link between church and state. Leaders are free to live their lives according to any moral code or religion they like and so should the citizenry of our nation. I am a christian myself but I will not support a government that wants to compel it’s religious belief on a population. Zambia should be a”free nation”! Not a “christian Nation”. Christianity is a personal relationship between and individual and Christ. Not a position a government takes on behalf of it’s people. We will be served each according to our conformity with God’s offer of grace not as a nation. No leader or government will get us to heaven. As long as we all respect the rights of others “May Zambia be…

  53. Iam appealing 2 the GRZ 2 let pipo excercise rights as the law states.let UPND hold the rally. if they abrogate the law then arrest them take them 2 court.Jst give them enough rope 2 hang themselves.In this vain i wld like 2 advise HH 2 come 2 copperbelt and hold a rally so that they can taste their popurality.

  55. With me I have NO problems for UNDP to hold the rally but Iam un comfortable for the rally to be held in Kabwata this time around.
    I am strongly convinced that the choice is done in bad faith under the guise of democratic right to to hold a rally at any place of the party’s choice.
    However that place has been chosen because of G Lubinda’s pending case. Believe me or not holding a rally in Kabwata between now and 23rd Feb would be highly provocative to the other named political party.
    Kabwata being a strong hold of Pf would definitely treat it as a contest. This doesn’t require a political scientist to predict this out come, so prevention is better than cure.

    • Ba Gershom well said! UPND’s strategy of trying to cause confusion when they can is really unfortunate. Lekeni bakaponoke. And do not blame the police because they have warned you. I hope Mweetwa, Shakalima et al will lead the line.

  58. I underated HH, i thought he was an under 5 but has grown so fast into a man to rekon with in politics, please POLICE stop HH at all cost, find any reason to prevent him from holding public rallies otherwise, am finished! yours Ukwa of Zambia, just do as i say & dont ask any question!

  60. IYEE BAZAKAMUKWAPULA BA BUJU. PEOPLE DONT RISK YOUR LIVES . hichilema will be drinking coffee while you will languishing in the cells

  61. What we should all remember is “Inclusion and not exclusion is the way a society advances.” To silence opposition is to end democracy. All that we have achieved as a nation is at risk when we start to treat those we disagree with as enemies. We all love our country dearly and it should be the common goal of a better society that we should promote. Transparency dictates that the reasons any group of people should not have the right to assemble because they are a threat to public peace and order be clearly outlined and addressed. It seems our police force is not acting with full disclosure if it all any of the vague claims made against UPND are valid. To ensure public trust we dutifully ask that our police force acts fairly with professionalism. It’ time to get to Work, Zambia is back

  62. Under 5 please don’t complain when you are arrested; your comrade young Chipimo is criticising constructively from his secretariat but you want to entice anarchy in this beautiful country. Why do you have a rally near your house in Kabulonga.

  64. Bwana THERMOMETER, our UPND stands for Universal Programmes 4 National Development. So we badly need these township rallies to supplement government effort in sensitizing the masses!

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