Former intelligence Chief, Xavier Chungu’s lawyer, Nicholas Chanda said that he asked his client to return to Zambia because he had no case.
“I advised him to come back because the State had amended its charges unless it wants to start the cases afresh,” Mr Chanda said.
Mr Chanda said he asked Chungu to surrender himself to the police because he did not want him to appear as if he was running away from something although there was no case against him
And chairperson of the Task Force on Corruption, Max Nkole denied that the Task Force on Corruption had struck a deal with the former intelligence chief.
Mr Nkole said assertions that the Task Force had a deal with Chungu to make him a State witness were false because the latter voluntarily took a plane to come back home at his own cost.
He said Chungu’s return would be helpful to both the prosecution team and the defence.
“We are not trying to persecute him but to seek the truth out of him, everything boils down from him. He becomes relevant not only to the prosecution but also the defence,” he said.
Mr Nkole said the decision to have Chungu become a State witness depended on prosecutors who were handing his cases.
“However, the accused is at liberty to decide whether to become a State witness or for the defence,” he said.
He said in law, an accused person could opt to become a witness but in the present state Chungu still remained charged with various criminal cases.
Mr Nkole said Chungu landed in the country at midday and that the Task Force on Corruption was interested to know how he escaped and those who aided him would be prosecuted.
On whether certain cases Chungu was facing would be amended, Mr Nkole said this depended on procedure and the prosecution team who would decide if they would have to start the cases afresh.
When asked about where Chungu had come from, Mr Nkole refused to disclose on grounds that this could compromise the security of that country.
Prior to his escape, Chungu was facing a number of cases in court.
In one count for instance, Chungu was alleged to have abused authority of his office as ZSIS director general by making irregular payment of US$70,000 to church organisations abroad on February 16, 2000.
In the second count, Chungu on February 12, 1999, allegedly stole US$16,846 cash which came into his possession by virtue of his employment.
Then senior resident magistrate, Douglas Zulu, discharged Chungu following an application by the Anti-Corruption Commission to withdraw the case on grounds that he was facing a similar charge in another court.
Really now!
chenze kuti chi Chungu kanshi?
why is he coming after Levy’s death? Something fishy is going on and for the sake of my country I hope Akhulu Mpuno is not trying to pardon him
Chanda o lebepa, Chingu got into the country using a fake name just that he was recognised. Ninshi ubufi so trying to bask in the glory
Which cases were amended. there is something fishy going on here.
let’s wait and see.
IWE PUSHI!!!! NO CASE WIKALAKWI?…THAT MAN IS THE KEY TO ALL THE OTHER CASES!!! NO CASE MY FOOT!!! YO LICENSE NEEDS TO BE REVOKED WHAT A LAWYER!
You did a good job Chanda,a man should face his problems head on.I feel also that Chungu could be somehow innocent.
#3 iwe suziba ati RB nimuya watu aza bakululukila bonse abemba.alebonfya ici mbuya
When asked about where Chungu had come from, Mr Nkole refused to disclose on grounds that this could compromise the security of that country.
This looks like these guys have been talking since LPM’s death. They know were Chungu was and this guy is going to walk. What a rip off that has left the Nchito brother so rich that they can now afford to even own an airline. All this is a well written script people. See zambia ripped off again
You did a good job Chanda,a man should face his problems head on.I feel also that Chungu could be somehow innocent.
IMWE GUYS MWI LA PEPEFYAMBA.. U TELLING ME U SO ARROGANT TO THINK CHUNGU IS INNOCENT? IWE # 1O CHITIMUKULU!!!!
The whole Task Force mandate should come to an end. It has cost the tax payers way more than they have been able to extract out of the plunderers. The tax force should hand over the case files to ACC whose work they are duplicating.
Others have even been able to buy entire airlines out of squeezing blood out of cases whose evidence is flimsy.
All those about to comment that Chungu has come back after the death of LPM should remember that LPM’s persecution of alledged plunders was extremely selective – Bulaya is a case in point.
Chungu hasnt come back to face any form of punishment. We all know that this is just one big show. You have the likes of VJ and Katele holding key positions in the country…surely they are going to save their fellow mbala. Anyway ni zee kaili ma hafu bana zukinga kudala.
Why is Chungu coming back to Zambia now? Because President Mwanawasa is dead.We want to see justice and see the legacy of the late President Mr.Chiluba and all the men and women who were trusted to lead but instead they filled their pockets
What Nigeria did was to struck a deal with the Abacha family. The Abachas disclosed where the money was and how much and they were given some and the state took the rest and they did not go to jail. Obasanjo said taking them to court was just making lawyers rich. This is what the Nchito brothers have done. Why not just ask FTJ and company to confess, get all the money and give them amnesty?
The whole Task Force mandate should come to an end. It has cost the tax payers way more than they have been able to extract out of the plunderers. The tax force should hand over the case files to ACC whose work they are duplicating.
Others have even been able to buy entire airlines out of squeezing blood out of cases whose evidence is flimsy. This is the new way of plundering resources to benefit a few.
All those about to comment that Chungu has come back after the death of LPM should remember that LPM’s persecution of alledged plunders was extremely selective – Bulaya is a case in point.
Pls no comment from PF because Chungu would have walked in their govt too as per 2006 election campaign
Expect another sveven years of in and out of the courts.This cases will never close,meanwhile the Nchito brothers will continue reaping money for themselves.
Zambians listen, Chungu is a well trained intelligeng chief and to tell you the truth, there is something fishy happening.open your eyes widely and dont be blind forded. This Lawyer is telling lies cause if he knew he was going to be waiting for him at the airport.
15 Shida, Windhoek,
LPM gave FTJ that option. FTJ refused to confess. He said he was innocent, hence the courts and lawyers getting stinking rich.
I can smell something here. Tax payers money at the mercy of plunderers. And Zambians are watching mind you.
Nothing interests me any more in this country.
Lawyer Nicholas CHANDA knew where CHUNGU was all this while and was keeping it a secret. Can Lawyer CHANDA refute this allegation? No. The police must prosecute lawyer Nicolas CHANDA for standing in the way of Justice. Anyway, police will prosecute nobody over CHUNGU’s stay away because they, police, also knew where Chungu was, lest the tax payers ‘prosecute’ the police.
we want the money back. people have died as a result of extreme greed by this man and chiluba. there is no need to waste any more time – recover whatever can be recovered and lock up the fellow so the country looks ahead.
what benefit is there is spending the resof one’s life running away from the law?
LT,yu shud revisit the words yu’ve used to block some comments,it is frastrating becuse certain words are not insults but merely to help paraphrase certain arguments.
as fo this chanda lawyer thing and his client,if the current regime spares yu,the zed pipo will deal with yu,ask kashiwa bulaya.
#13, You are the people who are very selective and believe LPM was an angel. When Chungu was facing the cases VJ and Katele were still holding high positions in Government.
Please tell me what has Rupia done for the plunderers which is different from what LPM did. These case were still dragging when LPM was alive.
Finshi Rupia achitile. Mulechefyako no Lupato. Umuntu wenu Sata alipona chali mukalipa. Go hang yourselves.
Hmmmm! interesting! No case to answer ka!What do these people takes us for??? fu-ll-s i guess?
God says;’DO NOT STEAL’.This command means alot;let Chiluba,Chungu & Katele explain to the poor Zambians where the money is.
the greatest cost this country has paid and continues to pay is the fact that up to now, chiluba and xavier are still free – after all the crimes they have committed. and all we can do as a country is treat their crimes so casually – with all the available mnountains of evidence. This is unacceptable and an insult to all those that have died at the hands of this heartless duo. the country’s leadership must be ashamed and there can be no clearer sign of failure than to fail to deal with plunderers decisively
PLS MY FELLOW ZAMBIANS ,FORGIVE ME PLEASEEE………………!
Here we go! Another roller coaster in this lengthy prosecution in the land. Iam not amused
Wow,nice to know he’s back,i look forward to hearing what he’s gotta say.His lawyer could not have been forced to say where his client was so don’t waste your air saying his lawyer knew where he was coz even the govt knew where he was.Chungu probably enriched himself because he was authorised to do so by his boss the then President who always directed him to misappropriate funds in the name of national security .Could anyone here tell me if they would not take money if the President told them that the money they are transfering is & should not be accounted for or audited,let’s not lie,i personally would pinch a little to make me lead a comfortable life but not the way they did.
# 29 you are forgiven on condition that you implicate Maureen and Magande for opposing my presidency.
Zambia and its circus will continue for ever and ever until judgement day. Zambians are sleepy, f-o-o-l-s, and above all cowards.
aba ba pompwe ba ntungulishishesu ma saka sana.after givin themselves ministerial posts they still want to continue na circus yabo te? but pa Zed,chachine ni animal farm.
Sorry Chungu am a beneficiary of ZAMTROP so i will help with Legal fees
That is the reason why the bunch of crook came together to support RB to be president. If SATA came president this Man Chungu would be caught and jailed.
As reported in the Times of Zambia; “The cutting of the deal is out of question. It is totally incorrect. We have been trying to bring him back from Maputo but he still remained at large,” he said.
He said the Task Force on Corruption was happy that Chungu decided to catch a plane on his own and come back home.
Chungu was in MAPUTO. So, Chungu was in MOZAMBIQUE. There shall be no security threat on that Country.
When r we goin to develop?Does this mean that some pipo r an untouchable?When r we goin to follow the laws we have implemented.A thief shall not go unpunished.In Zed some pipo r above the law.Is that all animals r equall but some r more equal than others.Come guys lets do somethin…I’m tired nd sick off Zedian politics we need a change where everybody will be equall on the face of mother Zambia.
We will change the name of our country to Animal farm. Zambiannnns why are you doing this to our once beautiful country. Pliz stop your circuses poeple
This story has a lot of hidden stuff in it. These guys knew what was happening and where Chungu was. Let’s not be taken for granted.
#36, Anonymous,
You definately missed out the part where SATA promised to forgive all plunderers including Chungu. These promises were top of the agenda on his to-do-list within 90 days.
what a turn of events!! Next national leaders plse. Time up for current crop of politicians!!
so lets be carefull pipo,it sounded interesting that our so called alert police arrested chungu when infact was just told by his lawyer to come home,these guys know how to play with the law, but if it was me to steal a chicken from my neghbour,o know, within seconds am in custody!! no lawyer on my side,money money money……
#39
You are right. Four legs good, Two legs bad
Let us imagine that FTJ and all those charged with corruption cases were British. After seeing Chungu back how would Zambians reacted to this? How would we be looking at the judicial system. Would we continue to trust it or we would recruit British judges to deal with their fellow country men?
The other newspapers say he was caught at the airport with a passport with his picture and a different name so how is it his intention to turn himself in? I think he wanted to sneak into the country to get more money then back out. We will see want unfolds i hope he doesn’t get off if he is guilty.
#19. Biggie Jim
Ati how. It has been a long time.
Here is what I think. It seems the task force is overwhelmed with cases. So what the government should do is place bounties.
They should place bounties on individuals on the wanted list. They should then make this list available to private investigators and how much they will pay for the bounty.
I tell you, you will see criminals being persecuted left right and centre.
We already have a private police force anyway (ARMCO, SAFETEC, etc) and they seem to do a better job than ZP.
BTW, is the TASK FORCE like a Zambian FBI or something???
I can see that you are really hurt Zambians but its unfortunate that you can do anything but just continue to sabaira. others are enjoying and you are busy making unnecessary noise.
If we need to develope we needto take every small sngle thing inot serious accoutability.If our leadres r showin bad example of governing the country lets start teaching the youths nd young ones of how we can develop the coutry.Right now our leaders have failed to deal among themselves,govern nd develop the country.Its us the youths u will be there tomorow so lets not let our leaders spoil our futurer.
I believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
Man u nizee. did you watch Tevez yesterday? Nkhani za mu zambia talema nazo manje because its manyengwe all over.
We are just a bunch of jokers! The winners( monetary) in this all case is the Post and the Nchitos brothers! The moment we realise that this is a time waster the better so that the country can move forward.
From 2001 , we have been having fraudulent elections using the Chungu formular and we have accepted it has being ‘normal’! Why the excitement now over one Chungu!
Chungu;s case is a very complex one.The best would be to wait and see if he will be a state witness or a defence witness in all the cases concerning FTJ,Katele,The Chungu brothers,etc
mmm…with corruption cases dragging like this, law firms are swimming in money.
I am sure all the law firms in Lusaka are throwing a big event to celebrate Chungu’s return because they know it is more money in their pockets through dragging court cases. I wish I owned a law firm in Zambia right about now.
Chungu should also explain how he helped the MMD to dribble Mazoka in the 2001 elections and the brown envelope he gave Levy when the latter said TULABONANA MWISHO.
LT ino kayi?
The other firms that must be celebrating is the POST Newspaper.
The post will experience sky-rocketing sales as long as they cover this story.
Chungu’s arrival has made some people rich.
welcome back mr chungu. Next stop is fall sick, then the tax payers will pay for your treatment in South Africa. what apleasure. then prolong the case until Sata comes to power, then you get a presidential pardon. You have got it all figured out. You trully were an intelligence officer.
BWANA CHUNGU WHY DID YOU LEAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE> ALA PA ZED NI STRATEGY, LOOK AT KATELE KALUMBA, CHILUBA, UNTIL DEATH TAKES THEM AWAY NEVER WILL THEY STEP INTO A CELL. SO BOSS NAIMWE JUST HANG IN THERE.
What security threat is Chanda talking about? Was it the govt of that country which harboured Chungu?
#54 free-market capitalist,
Ati bwino,
In recent years there has been a great trek towards the study of law. It is not too late to consider studying law. But you need to find the time amidst your many business plans which i have enjoyed reading on this blog.
Free-Market-Capitlst, welcome but you are acoward. munani shuta mairo after nayende,stop being a coward like Chungu your friend.
ONLY IN ZAMBIA where lawyers can tell their clients to jump and then come back later!!!! And where is the law in all this? And why did Chungu comeback on a forged passport? Who issued it to him, since chanda sounds so powerful could he have a hand.
“The subject of this book is of as much importance to the general public as to the medical profession. Most of us are, to some degree, at the mercy of individuals at the apex of some organisation whether it is political, commercial, bureaucratic or military. Few would deny that the mental and physical competence of these people is of importance to those in the organisations under their direction. Why then should not the mental and physical condition of those in supreme power be subject to review in so-called democratic societies?” Source: ‘How ailing leaders in power pose more risk to a larger population’ – google it and read full article! Its an interesting read.
#62. Rashid Jones
Thank you for the welcome.
I personally have nothing against you. The only reason I argued with you yesterday was to know your full position and now i fully understand your position. What I have noticed is your sole purpose of coming on this blog is to agitate and enjoy at our poor country’s sufferings.
What I have also noticed is you tend to show some sadist characteristics. Whenever something wrong is happening in ZAMBIA, to you it is something funny and you enjoy talking down on Zambians. That is just my observation.
#61. Biggie Jim
I cant help it boi. I like to see the business side to everything.I don’t know why.
Anyway I don’t really need to study law to start a law firm, I just have to hire a lot of lawyers but it would be good to have some knowledge in law.
#64 continued.
Dr Tilea argued further that, “it was not the international problems, which led to illness in world leaders but that illness itself was the prime cause of political instability. The illness of Eisenhower and Dulles was reflected, in his view, by their foreign policy. Their indecisiveness, postponement of decisions, petulance with awkward allies and lenience with the real trouble-makers resembled that of convalescents whose peace had been disturbed.
Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, man welcome back though you are very contravetial. Where is your wife Sarah and village concerpt? pliz educate F.M.C.
#67 coninued.
“swing of mood from elation to depression are usually associated with entertainers but they have occurred with far more serious consequences in political and military leaders, civil servants and even a member of Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Medical students are repeatedly told rare diseases occur but rarely, yet uncommon blood disorders crippled President Pompidou of France and the Shah of Iran.”
zambians, this man will go free and if he does all his co accussed will also go free coz hi is not gonna give out any info. remeber he is an inteligence officer
#66,Free-Market-Capitlst,
Thanks for the eye opener. I always thought you have to be a lawyer to start a law firm.
GVT pliz stop wasting tax payers money on cases that will not end, give these guys a deal and get back part of the money
#68. Rashid Jones, greetings and thank you very much. Both Sarah and Village Concept are certainly attending to useful matter and will re-appear with credible contributions with time.
Mastro, very interesting article I am still reading it
Imwe banthu,Maestro Hhehhehhehhe azafuntha ka. I cant understand what he is trying to say in his philosophical writting. i was planning to go for my doctorate but this man has scared me cause ningafunthe nine ka.
#71. Biggie Jim
Not necessarily but it would be good to have some knowledge in Law. What I could advise you if you where seeking such a business venture is to get a partner.
Preferably an experienced lawyer. That way, they can aid you in the “know how” of the law business.
#69 continued.
“judging by the number of sick leaders since 1957 it is unlikely that Tilea’s warning had any influence. An ambitious leader, greedy for power, regards illness as just another obstacle to be overcome and, if necessary, concealed. Disability in leaders can be hidden from the public by totalitarian regimes yet even in democracies, and despite widespread rumors or leaks, the electorate rarely expresses deep or lasting concern. Indeed, even when the details of disability in a leader merit serious attention, immediate measures to avoid either the repetition or the consequences of future ill-health are rarely demanded.”
I am inviting Chungu for lunch.
Thanks #74. John Chinena, Liteta and good day to you. #75. Rashid Jones, osayopa mufella, just go for it for there is nothing to worry about.
#68. Rashid Jones
“Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, man welcome back though you are very contravetial. Where is your wife Sarah and village concerpt? pliz educate F.M.C.”
Rashid, Maestro’s views and mine differ. We are two different people with different interests and different points of view. The only thing I have in common with Maestro, Village concept and Sarah is the support of Hakainde Hichilema.
Unlike them, I hate to see people complaining on an issue. I like to see people posting solutions. I dont know about them.
#77 continued.
“…. An increasingly educated public throughout the world must be better informed by investigative rather than deferential journalists.”
He concludes emphatically: “Public curiosity in their (electorates) leaders should be encouraged and not suppressed since heads of state can plunge their people into disasters. … Our fate is in the hands, hearts, glands, blood and brains of our leaders. Curiosity about them is very necessary for individual survival.”
Free-Market-Capitlst, I love zambias but they let me down all the time because of their backwards thinking, infact my chick is Zambian by the way. look so now you are all on Chungu’s neck but why are you failing to nail Chiluba, Katele, Mabenga,Kebwe etc and you think you will manage to nail the Intelligency chief, no way.
#80. Free-Market-Capitlst, goodmorning and take care.
Complaining and insulting will not take us anywhere. The solution is in #81 and ultimately voting wisely.
#75, Rashid Jones,
After you have read the article that Maestro has recommended, judge for yourself who seems to have a nerve imbalance between you and him.
HE WAS MOSTLY IN MAPUTO, DRC, RSA AND PORTUGAL. BUT THIS TIME HE CAME FROM MAPUTO ON SA FLIGHT USING A DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT ISSUED BY UN. THATS WHY THE YOUNG MAN CHULUMANDA WAS RECALLED FROM HERE. GREETINGS FROM MAPUTO
Since the cases were amended,they have to start afresh in the mean time he has no case to answer.
Hmmmmmmmm………….Zambian circus is more interesting than the Movie Madagascar.
We need overhaul leadership change
# 11,whatever you name means,if LEVY is still innocent of nepotism then Chungu should be very innocent.DC chibombo is his nephew,DC kapiri is his cousin,then,the late Mapushi,Chilipamishi,Shakafuswa,Shikapwasha,namulambe,Siliya,Mulongoti,Mpombo(whaTever thier names mean)to mention but a few are in the family tree.Is this what you call innocence iwe?I still maintain that CHUNGU is innocent,let us not be selective in the way we handlle presumed plundering cases.
#82. Rashid Jones, the courts cases have stopped motivating me now because of the slowness in the process. This slowness is probably calculated and I think that is why former President Chiluba’s cases have not yielded anything. The man handpicked late former President Mwanawasa and so what would the late have done to ‘bite the finger that’ feed him? All these things we have seen are a CIRCUS, but now the MMD has to reorganise itself in readiness for 2011 elections. Therefore, all key criminally charged Luapulans and Northerners have to be cleared so that the Undereducates votes will be neutralised by winning their support as retaining GRZ in the next tripatite elections becomes crucial.
#82. Rashid Jones
I dont know much about the Chungu guy but from what I can gather up, he seems to be a key figure in the persecution of Chiluba, Katele, etc and so there is not much I can say about the whole issue.
What I have made here though is an observation and the observation is newspaper sales will sky-rocket, law firms will make loads of money through dragging court cases and who knows, the task force and Zambia Police will get a tap on the back.
Not that it matters but as for the other posts, Biggie Jim and I are planning on how we will own a group of companies in Zambia. We will be like a powerful minority…lol.
Biggie Jim, I have no serious problem with Maestro, The only problem that i find in him is that he thinks education is everything. By the way im a financial analyst and maestro think education is wisdom,leadership etc which is not the case. Look at Kaunda and Chiluba, they are former leaders but without meaningful education yet they managed to lead the nation.
#84. Biggie Jim, greetings and aahahahaha….
Tuzachimanga’ chi chungu just wait.
#83. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe
I agree with you. An educated economy is a good economy. People must have access to information and people must develop a culture of reading. You must never stop asking questions and never stop reading. Never stop looking for information.
#86 You wrote: Since the cases were amended,they have to start afresh in the mean time he has no case to answer.
Hmmmmmmmm………….Zambian circus is more interesting than the Movie Madagascar.
We need overhaul leadership change
Am sorry my friend its not the cases that are amended but the laws that made Chungu amenable to court. On the other hand i agree with you that based on changes in the legislative framework he may have little to answer for. the defence team studied his case finely. It will be reduced to a mere academic exercise rather facts at law and corresponding evidence. Have fun man.
#90.Rashid Jones, this “I have no serious problem with Maestro, The only problem that i find in him is that he thinks education is everything. By the way im a financial analyst and maestro think education is wisdom,leadership etc which is not the case. Look at Kaunda and Chiluba, they are former leaders but without meaningful education yet they managed to lead the nation” is impressive.
However, it is way offside from what I think and believe.My understanding is that education enlightens an individual and it is cardinal for someone to mmake sound judgements.Thus, below Grade 12 school dropouts can NOT, not NEVER, make rational decisions no matter how much credible advice they recieve.
You have brought the story of HH, but from my analytical point of view, HH or SATA will never win elections in zambia because of three conflicting provinces namely Southern, Luapula and Northern. you may argue but thus the truth,
What about Chungu for president,i will support him.RB bribed a named man sometime back and he is our president.
#90, Rashid Jones,
Its a pity i have to leave the blog now and attend to some other issues. We need to find the time to explore the issue you have raised of education and leadership. Lets find the time and discuss this issue in detail. I’m sure as i leave others will pick it up, hopefully.
Yaba Ba Chungu why did you come back? Manje nkani ija ati babemba niba kawalala iza uka futi? Seriously, I smell a rat..a dead one for that matter over Xavier’s return. AN experienced spy-CHIEF like him can’t be so naive by using the International Airport as his entry point to sneak in the country. It was arranged prior before he came…they are just doing a James Bond style propaganda on us. Its just like the Katele witchcraft laptop nonsense! RB knows why Xavier is back? Remember how Shansonga escaped? even Xavier himself, when he jumped bail he never used the Airport to escape so how can he be so naive this time and use the airport? The whole episode stinks with dishonesty just wait…
Over and out now. Have a blessed day you all.
Rashid Jones
Thanks for clearing that up. I look forward to having dialogue once again with you next time.
Maestro
See you next time
Biggie Jim
We need to have more conversations on business plans. Some of them might happen ka.
I AM GOING NOW. SEE YOU GUYS HOPEFULLY TOMORROW.
Number 88 Maestro…Are you sure with this statement ‘All key criminally charged Luapulans and Northerners’. Are the following criminals Luapulans and Northerners? Musengule, Sibande, Kayumba, Funjika, Prof. Mweene, Bede Mphande, Stella Chibanda, Mtonga (former secretary to the treasury), Attan Shansonga, Vincent Malambo, Richard Sakala etc. Lets be objective and fair with our Bemba brothers. Lets not use the truth selectively and only when it suits us. I have noticed that these names above have never been mentioned whenever this barbaric topic of ‘Bembas and Corruption’ resurfaces. In fact, I don’t even agree with this notion that the majority of those facing corruption charges are Bembas.
Rashid Jones,yo comments in #33 are missplaced and annoying.how can yu insult all zambians,are yu zambian yoslf?paraphrase yo points in numb.33.
#99 why do I want to believe you? I think you are right, this guys is one of their kind!
I THINK CHUNGU SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE THIS ISSUE OF FIGHTING CORRUPTION PEOPLE WANT TO GAIN MILAGE OUT OF IT .ITS NOT TAKING US ANYWHERE LETS CONCETRATE ON JOB LOSSES AND FOOD PRICES.
ERIC ZAMBIA
I THINK CHUNGU SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE THIS ISSUE OF FIGHTING CORRUPTION PEOPLE WANT TO GAIN MILAGE OUT OF IT .ITS NOT TAKING US ANYWHERE LETS CONCETRATE ON JOB LOSSES AND FOOD PRICES.
ERIC ZAMBIA
Guys Iam shocked with what I just seen in times of Zambia(home news)state is about to privatise zamtel in within four months.Zambia calo cesu.
The fact that the CHIEF thief that CONGOLESE FTJ is ‘arguably’ Bemba does not make Bembas thieves. Convince me that the majority of those facing corruption charges are Bembas. The correct statement is the leading suspects in most corruption cases are Bembas PERIOD! ie Useless FTJ, Katele Kalumba, Faustin Chungu and Aaron Chungu.
#107, i thought they are identidying a strategic partner that is what dora’s verbatim says
104…Just read through the lines my brother these rascals are just caressing our minds with cheap propaganda. Don’t be surprised if the same Chungu gets elected as MMD chairperson for Defence and Secuirity at the next MMD national convention. We saw it with Katele..he walked from hiding into becoming the MMD chief executive officer and everyone including LPM pretended as though nothing had happened. Personally, I have no confidence in the so-called leaders. They are pathetic jackals and hyenas with no sensitivity whatsoever. Their hearts are NUMB when it comes to sensitive national issues. Just watch the circus unfold…..
Something here smells really Sabiy (fishy)
IAM PERSONALLY IN CHARGE OF THIS CASE. SKIPPING BAIL IS AN AFFRONT TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
1. CHUNGU WAS TAKEN TO FORCE HQ FOR DE-BRIEFING
2. HE IS LOCKED UP IN CELLS.
3. HE WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO CHIBWAKAILA IMMEDIATELY
4. HE WILL BE TAKEN FROM PRISON TO COURT TO ANSWER CHARGES OF COMTEMPT OF COURT FOR SKIPPING BAIL
5. I WILL PROSECUTE PERSONALLY AND I CAN ASSURE THE NATION – MIN 3 MONTHS
6. OTHER PLUNDER CASES WILL FOLLOW WHILE THE CULPRIT WILL BE IN JAIL
IT AFFORDS ME A CHNCE TO REVISIT MY GOOD DAYS WHEN I WAS A CRACK COP.
YOU KNOW IAM ACTING I.G AND IAM SURE ONCE CHUNGU IS LOCKED UP I WILL BE GIVEN 3 YEARS CONTRACT BY RB …..NICE OPPORTUNITY 4 MI TO PROVE SATA WRONG
Zambians brace yourselves for MINISTER of so and so of MMD chairperson for so and so XAVIER FRANKLIN CHUNGU has said blah! blah! blah! soonest. Such nonsense is normal Pa Zed. Who is Michael Mabenga in MMD today despite his conviction by the High Court for corruption? Who is Katele today despite him hopping from MMD secretariat to the courts every week? Our leaders have no moral judgment that can clearly motivate and encourage the general populace whatsoever.
Please dont let this man walk away.Send them to jail poma naka KAFUPI imitima shika cooling eekoo.There are slim chances of recovering the money.Log on to ASIAN news now- in Thailand all corrupt men of such nature have been sent to the Gallows. These cases have taken too long, conclude them pliz.
#109.my dear as if you don’t know what happens in our govt.when they bring issues like this(privatisation)on public its means they are done with all the transactions.remember what happened with ZANACO bank.
Kwasila Chungu goes scote free!!!!!!!!!!!
106! You are right, these cases will not take us anywhere economically! Can the Post for a change allow the courts to deal with this matter objectively and fairly, if we are not careful we will bogged down in this case like the Iraq circus, where Saddam is no more but more chaos!
prophet, I always call a spade a spade and never a big spoon. Are you telling me that you can call zambias good and clever people with all this drama happening. Zambians are sleepy,cowards and fo-o, because they easily forget things and cant fight for anything period.
Chungu is innocent~!!!!!
Chungu is innocent~!!!!!
106 Shi Philipo…Actually, The Post has even assisted Zambia for these cases to go thus far because LPM was also being selective with prosecution sometimes. Remember the Kashiwa Bulaya case? Without The Post that case would have died a natural death. So The Post is a necessary EVIL my brother.
I have just one one comment and one question. Appreciate if those you are conversant with the case can shade some light.
Comment: All charges against the plunderers will eventually be dropped and they will walk free.
Question: What happens to these properties which were allegedly confiscated and the monies laying in “frozen bank accounts”? Will the plunders “get back” all thses or what?
Please someone help my heart find peace.
Abena Chungu where have you been hiding?
Rashid Jones
Am around, I just read what you write everyday. I stopped blogging because of you.
why all this excitment he is only but one man it’s not like all your troubles will dissapear let the man have his day
#118 you are spot on Zambians can never fight for anything even this crusade against corruption is being championed by membe most zambians are unintersted in whats going on.
I personally think that Chungu may get away from all this but that he has lost a wife and children as some bloggers have mentioned earlier is worse then going to prison for how many months or is it years.
I should think this has not been easy for him to live without power and be in custody / hiding whilst those close to him die.
mukelabai point of correction Chiluba, katele are from Luapula province and as such they are not bemba real bembas are from certain parts of northern province.Its a pity that bemba has been adopted by all and sundry.
Chungu was leaving in Nigeria. When akulu mpuno went to nigeria he met Mr Chungu in the Abuja Hilton/Nicon and assured him that he will not be jailed if he came back.
126..You are right. I don’t know where we would have been democratically and in terms of governance without M’membe faulty as he may be sometimes.
Rashid Jones,my point is that i never agree with such generlisations,we still have zambians who are upright, will never forget the ills of evil pipo.mind yu even in the most wicked city, according to Bible history,there was an upright man called Lottie.No matter how much yu justify yoself bro,yo comment to me is definitely wanting.by the way,it’s zambians who pressed fo the kashiwa saga,removal of FTJ’s immunity,denying FTJ’s 3rd term,denying the current regime the so called responsibility allowances etc.things are changing bro,this man will not find it rosy GRZ or not,his case is too obvious to be pushed under the carpet.
ZAmbia is like a soap opera and we the citizens have no choice, because there’s only one channel.
And to top it all, we have to pay for it!
Last night on MUVI TV, we saw an orphanage that suupports about 1000
children facing closure, and pipo who ripped us off are cutting deals to walk. All this while we watch!
That run down pathetic school, only needs K5M to clear rental arrears or the sch closes and the orphans offloaded into the streets!
“GaZZie” stops here bcos his weak heart is boiling …..
128..I hear you. Its just that I find these Bemba accusations SILLY.
#130 do not give mmembe unnecessary credit, Post 1991, Multi party movement 1989, please read your history, he just found himself at the right time at the righ moment, there are people like Bright Phiri who were the real people who went to jail on his behalf, if there is anything to say, thank the zambians, because even third term it does not matter what the Post would have been shouting, if people wanted they would have let it go.
132..Its sad to hear such stories happening back home. Can you imagine the irritation when such weird things are happening that’s when you see a Psycophant like Tetamashimba saying CHILUBA is innocent.
WE AS SCOTLAND YARD TO HANDLE JUST THIS CASE.
Has anyone done a research on criminals and their origin before? If there is no such research this thing about Bembas, Lundas etc being theives is just has no basis, unless we do a research on the origins of most criminals then that will give us an idea of what is going on.
134…Don’t be emotional and envious because such shallow attributes will cause GENUINE reasoning to evade you. Why don’t you want to recognise M’membe’s contributions to our democracy? Of course M’membe is not perfect but certainly he has done something appreciative for Zambia. Don’t even try and mix up things here because if its Masautso Phiri you are talking about he is highly irresponsible personally no wonder he failed to run his own paper he later established. Coming to Bright Mwape, that guy still is an ICON of Zambian journalism. But the truth is they both went to jail with Fred. Don’t be economical with the truth my brother.
The Task force should be disbanded and all cases closed. What does Zambia have to show for all the monies we have paid the lawyers to procsecute these chaps. Nothing. I know it’s exciting to read the drama but is anyone counting the cost. We have made the Nchitos rich, even richer than the plunderers. So what have tax payers got out of this whole thing. These corrupt lawyers are milking us. They ahve corrupt minds, I dont think they care about the tax money. Some now own airlines. Where did the money come from?
Oh Bright Mwape was killed in an accident here in Namibia. We really mourned that guy here in Namibia, he was only 33.
Lusaka Times are blocking my posting since it mentions arm, diamond and blood
Dear blogz. The post says that he was identified by one of the ZRA officers. On his passport he had a different name. My question is, How did he manage to get a new zambian passport?
FUGITIVE former intelligence chief Xavier Chungu was yesterday arrested upon arrival at Lusaka International Airport.
And Chungu, who is currently detained at Lusaka Central Prison, appeared in the magistrate’s court late yesterday for return of bench warrant.
Meanwhile, the Task Force on Corruption has said cutting a deal with Chungu so that he turns a state witness is out of the question.
Chungu arrived at Lusaka International Airport around 12:00 hours and was recognised by one of the immigration officers.
According to sources, the immigration officer only identified Chungu facially because he was said to have a different name in the passport.
#142 My guess is that all things are possible in Zambia. Maybe the passport was issued in “Matero”.
Iwe Rashid Jones n#118 Dont insult us Zambians just enjoy yo money and keep shut we dont need u to solve our problems we shall deal with it if not i will deal with u personally””””
But one of the immigration officers identified him and informed other officers that Xavier Chungu has come, the man that the country has been looking for, for the past couple of years.
Thereafter, police were informed, who later called their bosses to be instructed where to take him,” the source said. “Chungu was then put in a separate room at the airport. Police officers were then instructed that he should be taken to the Inspector General of Police.”
Chungu was later driven out of the airport in a blue Pajero registration number ABA 4969.
Chungu was taken into the office of acting Inspector General of Police Francis Kabonde amid tight security. When they entered Kabonde’s offic
As they were taken to the waiting room within Kabonde’s office, one officer realised that the author was from The Post, and immediately told him to leave because Chungu’s meeting would not be open to the media.
“You are from The Post; please, can you leave us alone. It’s too early for you. You will know the details later, but for now, please leave us,” said the officer angrily.
After about ten minutes, Chungu’s lawyer Nicholas Chanda arrived and went straight to Kabonde’s office to see his client.
Chungu held discussions with Kabonde from 13:00 to 14:45 hours.
After the meeting, Chanda said Chungu had been slapped with contempt of court charge, for jumping bail in 2004. He sa
Lets wait and haer what Bennie Tetamashimba says on this one. He’s already told us that Chiluba is innocent. This is regardless of the fact that Chiluba has already been convicted by the London Court and that former Chief Justice Matthews Ngulube actually admitted to being bribed by Chiluba. Chungu may be innocent too.
Things are so ugly in Zambia!
I have a 13 yr old son. I’m preparing him to take up a law course after secondary school. I knowt that he shall make a lot of money over these plunder cases that are before the courts now, because they will take a very long time. he will even graduate and find them still running.
We shall also own airlines, plots or houses at Mass media area and set up newspapapers due to cash we shall make with my son over the current cases. Zambia sucks!!!!!
Ala mwebantu, the lawyer was aware that chungu was coming in, look at the timing ten minutes after arrest. probably what was to happen was that since he had come under a differnt name they were going to meet somewhere else. remember the lawyer is sharp too, he was going to raise suspicion had he stuck himself at the airport. Chungu is really intelligent and was not dull to come in at midday, a night would have been good but he didnt. we need to wait and see, these guys are sharp and know exactly what they are up to but definately not dull!!
ba nicholas chanda you want to turn hero ka,well i know most of us do not like Rb,but allow me,RB has a lot of image to build so am sure he will be told about the bulaya saga of nolle prosqui so he will not try to make funny moves.
let him stick to his words he said t us at the airport this morning that the law will take its course.
ba chanda your client no matter how much pipo may think and be convinced that he is slick and that the govt cud not catch him.badala chamuleta the truth is he had nowhere to go.he used to boast in portugal it was tym 4him to leave,went to mozambique now he’s home and he will face the wrath of the law he broke.malabish
Munyono, you are failing to deal with Chungu,choluba,Katele, stella etc, are you sure you will manage to deal with me, a foreigner? get a life and solve Zambia’s problems my brother. zambians are just what i have said.
This trial will be behind closed doors.
What country would let it’s former intelligence leader talk openly about government dealings and secrets.
Nobody is going to be allowed inside the courtroom’s.
The post better start digging now!!
if the lawyer knew where chungu was and lied about it, he should also be arrested for obstraction of justice
Sarah are you sure its you or you are maestro or maybe V.concerpt?
Chungu was not different from the crook who was his boss, the corrupt rat we had elected to lead our country – Frederick Chiluba. Both of them had minds of an ant in an anthill. It is equally difficult to understand how such a rat could have been at the helm of our country for 10 years doing the things he did, squandering public resources as he did.
We think Chungu’s friends who had been using him as a scapegoat for everything they did must be panicking now that he is here to tell his side of the story. Defences may have to change. But this is not possible, it’s too late. They have to live with the consequences of their lies while Chungu dances to his own tune.
We hope the Zambian pe
ChiChungu chenze mu Zimbabwe chathaba Cholera.
Now and forever
Viva H H
#156 Its all politics,Chungu is back not to tell his side of the story but to free a friend FTJ chiluba.The Squandered resources are gone lets 4get the past and focus on developing the country and not waste too much money on investigating corrupt rats.
THIEF OR NO THIEF…IS THAT ALL HE WAS ACCUSED OF STEALING….
Rashid Jones.
Yes its me. Actually its Mr Bwalya who messed it up for me. He said alot of crap about me. You can do better than saying that rubbish you have been saying about us Zambians because you are a Zambian as well.
The only winners in this endless fight against corruption are the nchitos who can now even boast of owning the biggest private airline in zambia. The biggest losers are the tax payers who have continued to foot the bill thats making the nchitos richer every day. Oh and the hundreds of zambian men who took one look at the nchitos and decided to enrol for nightschool Law degrees at UNZA and are now roaming the streets of lusaka with their law degrees and no riches in sight…
Iwe million what are you talking about.meet me at 88.
Sarah Jones, To tell you the truth, im not Zambian and im very proud not to be one.Im an investor in one of the financial institutions.zambians are nice people but very sleepy and ignorant.
Ladies and gentlemen, I’m sure we all know where this is leading to tefyo? I think these cases are closed now!!!! Chapwa ba monko naba moma!!! No matter what zedians say!
ohhhhhh no HE IS BACK’that is sad indeed, going round circles its easy to COMMIT a crime in this country sneak out blow the money then think of returning to seek padon, in other places demos w’d ve ensued
I thought Chungu would not waste our hard earned money to pay state prosecutors and other government witnesses by accepting and pleading guity to his well known cases. This guy Bwalya is acting as if he is uneducated chap. Chungu came under a different name and thanks to officers who managed to identify him. Already he has a case to explain where he got the passport under a different name.
WELL DONE “BWEZANI” NOW WE SEE THE BENEFITS OF KAFUPI’S CAMPAIGN IN LUAPULA HAS PAID DIVIDENDS.1ST VJ IS CHIEF WHIP NOW THIS?THE MAN EVADED(OR SO WE WER MADE TO BELIEV)THE TASK FORCE FOR 4 YRS YET IN ONLY 1MONTH OF RB’S REIGN THE FORMER INTELLIGENCE CHIEF SHOWS UP AT THE AIRPORT OF ALL PLACES.WHAT`S NEXT? ATON SHANSONGA WILL MOST LIKELY BE NEXT. IT’S A PITY MR NKOLE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESNT SEE THE “MATRIX” IS BACK AND XAVIER IS AS GOOD AS FREE
Thats what happens when cartels, drug dealers, piss heads, dumb and dumber and monkeys run your country. An average national snooping agency knows where its former boss is at any one given time…so do you think that the Zambian Intelligency agency didnt know where the former head roach was? if they didnt know then Zambia has one of the most useless intelligency agencies in the universe. This should explain the decision making framework of your leaders i.e.how prices of essential commodities could be lowered during elections without regards to economic fundamentals and then increased soon after..lack of intelligence..you’re being taken on no frills ride
Chungu is bemba, and Nicholas Chanda is bemba, what do you expect. Ba.bemba che!
Awii, icalo cesu nachipwa! I we ka Nicolas which law did you do were you tell you clients to jump bail and come after so many years. Chungu is a thief and should be tamed. Lets wait and see how intellegent our judicially is. It is so frustrating and this Nyama soya is just a rubber stamp running our country. All plunderers will soon regroup and continue their business – Zambia – a lawless country were thieves can walk freely
#164,yu are none of what yu’re claiming,maybe if yu’re selling eggs and tomatoes.if yu need lectures on zedians just say so and some of will educate yu.
as fo 139,disbanding task force is not the best we can do.i believe its not about what we can gain out of these cases moneywise but what we can gain as a nation in stamping out corruption which is the worst cancer mutilating our livelihood.if yu want results here they are;1.kashiwa in 2. musonda in,3.sakala was in 4.london judgement worth billions of kwacha 5.defence chiefs on their defence 6.FTJ,kabwe and A.chungu on defence 7.regina on defence 8.19billion k in special acc.etc read man facts are there.
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prophet. so you are a false prophet ka? if you were a real you would have prophesed what the real me is.
As for Chungu, we say welcome back stu p id fugitive. We say st upid because a wise person would not have done what Chungu did. And we hope Attan Shansonga will also realise the futility of his decision to jump bail and come back to face the consequences of his corruption.
Yes – now that the main culprit in behind bars,the Task Force should be disbanded.Max Nkole will soon be looking Obess like the Nchito brothers due to our money they are living a lavish life in.Max Nkole was building some Security Company premises just behind MaxPrest Tyres in the Chinika area, and now that the chap is drunk with our cash,he has raised down the incomplete building and start to build another one (the chap doesn`t know what hes doing)…hes run out of ideas.
Disband the task Force now.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
…and iwe Max, have you paid for the Buffalo you got pa Nkongole…you poacher!
#174,am prophet and not Prophet,take note of the letter p.whoever yu’re yu need to need to have a second look about Zambians.so whatever yu say,yo earlier remark was misplaced,just admit.how can yu insult the whole nation and expect to aplauded….my foot! and yu call yoself an investor.what investment, taking advantage of the kind of pipo yu described?
Please educate prophet because he doesnt know what an insult is.
#178,defn of insult is;speak to or treat with disrespect or abuse.check yo comment b4 yu expose yo wrong choice words.
yah! but Nyama soya and Kunda are ugly, mmmm, no guys
iwe ka Sarah jones are u realted to chi rashid jones if u r then its so unfotunate becoz u will soon be depoted.alas hey hoo and hey hoo alas””””
Whose this Ch Rashid Jones he seems to be a verry rich but arrogant lebanees let him go the mosque let he be taught mannersor we shall descipline him.am new to this site i need friends.
nikolas chanda must be jailed 2getha with his client
I shall wait till the case is over before I write an article. The larger part of the pie, though,show this is a calculated moved and Zedians must not be taken for granted.
Why do you people complain about what is going on in Zed? Look if you are not in Zambia just shut it. Why are you more worried than the villagers who were voting?
Lekeni Nyama Soya nao alyemo. Sorry guys this is Africa. If you can not beat them join them. LPM made mistakes and yes he favoured a few people. He gave people jobs because he knew them. Kafupi did the same. It`s Africa mwaibala chani? Everything goes. Amigo!
Anyone got a Stella and barbecueing some sausages like me? Leave Zambia to those in Zambia. Just enjoy whereever you are. You only live once. Amigo!
imwe tamwamwishiba nicholas chanda? anwena pa roadside ku kabwata. wabufi umwaiche.
Realist is correct.
If people believe in true justice, tis man has come back to face his accusers, so why not let justice take its course – being prejudiced following speculative matrices, doesn’t make him guilty!!
He in fact lead & helped this country to reach HIPC thru the so called complex transactions. Musonda, from zanaco is languishing behind bars becoz of skewed & biased prosecutors, thru selective prosecutions. The Post, Task force & Prosecutors, instead of getting onto their high horses, all have to wait for the Attorney General to make a determination of whether the evidence supports a prosecution. All the cases that were quashed before, were found to be very wanting .
I TOLD YOU HE WAS GOING TO BE BACK…..
Chungu was in Katanga with Moses Katumbi. He is ery Intelligent guy. He knows all the corners of Zambia and the world. He is come back knowing that he has the support of FTJ who is now in good books with RB. The police and the law here is mare formality.
Some are calling for the crucification of Mr.Chanda. But i just don’t know how the knowledge of where Chungu had been will help you? Far from the insinuations of the Post that XF was in Portugal.He use to visit that country but based in Mozambique where he has been all these years.As much as i disapprove the many flaws of Chungu in office by betrayal of trust, there is nothing criminal about his Mozambique friends hosting him.If anything, his investments in mining has been big in that country since 1996.I never approved either the way Sata forced FJT to give that job to XF who professionally was too junior and not a qualified officer to head the bureau by virtue of his field specialization.
Welcome back chungu, we love you so much.
Somethings Chungu did were in national interest but regrettably abused to the extreme.I was one of the many in national interest who drew sufficient logistical support on life time terms. Unapologetically my personal automobile is one of the endless institutional logistical support i received under Chungu.His departure had nothing with the line of institutional corporation. Its a norm and operational standard everywhere as long as its done within the avenues of value maximizing establishments.FYI, i will continue drawing on need basis many years after Chungu or Phiri are gone.
Chanda is entitled to attorney/client privilege, he would face the wrath of LAZ if he disclosed any information given to him by his client while in custody or on the lam.
To prosecute him the AG would have to prove that Chanda aided and abetted his client in breaking the law (running away), not mere knowledge of where client was or being contacted by him. That is why your lawyer can never be accepted as your surety during bail application, they can’t be held lawfully possible if you decide to take off or you tell them you don’t show up for court. Attorney/client privilege!
#193 keep quiet ma rubish. Kwimonesha ta!
#194, unfortunately, like it or not that is the law!
Nicolas Chanda should be locked up, he knew where this Imbwa was.
DO NOT HAV YOU HOPE TOO HIGH THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH THAT CHUNGU GOES TO JAIL.THIS IS ZAMBIA.IN THE FIRST PLACE LOOK AT THE CASES IN THIS ARTICLE:THERE IA NO MENTION OF EVEN A CSAE WORTH $250,000.REMEMBER THE MATRIX?WHAT HAPPENED TO THE $80M COBALT SCANDALS?THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT SAVIOUR WILL BE JAILED AFTER ALL YOU RE INOCENT UNTILL FOUND GUILTY.I HOPE TATWASEBANE MU ZAMBIA!
Good point made #190, Veteran, unlike the donkey #194 GEORGE who seems to want to argue baselessly even in the face of logic as well as the law as clearly and plainly stated by # 193, Dark Knight. Trouble is some on this blog just like to argue! Mere fact that his lawyer Chanda knew his whereabouts is no cause to have Chanda charged with an offence! The government also knew where Chungu was. In fact, on their own admission, the government has been tracking Chungu ever since he absconded.
Cont’d…If that is the standard you want to apply, then all of them, from the president down, Police IG, Chungu’s successor, – all of them who had any inkling about his whereabouts since he fled, should also be arrested and charged with obstruction of justice. So, think, before you open your trap. Similarly, it’s ridiculous for Chanda to claim he advised his client to return because charges had been amended and therefore he had nothing to fear. If Chanda knew when his client was returning, he should have indeed been at the airport waiting for him.
#102, Mukelebai, you wrote “88 Maestro…Are you sure with this statement ‘All key criminally charged Luapulans and Northerners’. Are the following criminals Luapulans and Northerners? Musengule, Sibande, Kayumba, Funjika, Prof. Mweene, Bede Mphande, Stella Chibanda, Mtonga (former secretary to the treasury), Attan Shansonga, Vincent Malambo, Richard Sakala etc. Lets be objective and fair with our Bemba brothers. Lets not use the truth selectively and only when it suits us.”
My respnse is that I am very sure about my statement ‘All key criminally charged Luapulans and Northerners’. Criminally charged here does not mean that they are criminal for always “one is innocent until proven guilty”.
iwe alias Rashid whatever you are a Zambian naiwe .I have analysed you and concluded that you are just a twisted zambian Fuseke !
#200 continued.
By writing “Therefore, all key criminally charged Luapulans and Northerners have to be cleared so that the Undereducates votes will be neutralised by winning their support as retaining GRZ in the next tripatite elections becomes crucial,” I was simply indicating that the Luapula (100% Bemba according to Zambian CSO) and Northern (~ 80% Bemba according to Zambian CSO)Province Bemba votes that have been going to the Undereducate because of Tribalism (see the 2008 ECZ election results info. and map)need to be brought back undercontrol of the MMD Party which has lost grip of the part of the country, and this is achievable only if people who come from there are forgiven soon.
#202 continued.
Just look at how former President Chiluba campaign for President RB Banda in his village although the results were appalling since people there had already made up their minds that ‘nangu chibe shani nipabwato’ for no proper reason other than TRIBALISM.
Now, if you critically look at the new President RB Banda Administration you will notice that it will have trouble resuscitating the economy due to many factors probably beyond its control i.e. global economic financial crisis, low copper prices, etc. So, now that there will be no MESSAGE about continuing with late LPM’s programmes it is imperative that some new strategy is used to WIN the 2011 elections.
why is their so much tribalism talk by most bloggers? Iam proud to have grown up on the copperbelt when there were people from different parts of the world living and working on the CB . Who has been teaching young people about tribalism?
#203 continued.
This is where making sure that the Undereducate loses his Bemba support comes in, since Bemba-related tribes account for about 37% of Zambias total population while Bemba Speakers are about 46% which entails that rural Luapula and Northern Provinces are cardinal here for town dwellers will obviously increasingly continue voting for the opposition because of dissatisfaction of the MMD GRZ’s way of doing things and also enlightment due to peer pressure with propaganda from Imagebuilders. This insight has been carefully analysed from the President RBB’s campaign message that he had come to end the polical carrer of the Undereducate.
Wait and see how things will unfold.
#206 continued.
As “kawalala aziba kawalala munzakhe”, only key Luapula and Northern Bembas will snatch the crucial Bemba population votes to the MMD in 2011 and hence the clearing of all cases that have no direction. While this may be sad for our way of thinking, it appears to have some good.
I feel that all case that have taken over 4 years without progress MUST be closed so that the next government does not continue to waste TAX payers’ money on useless things, but channel it to the areas of need like job-creation, education, health and infrastructure development. So, GRZ I urge you to now forgive everyone by reconciling with them and then start making progress development-wise.
#204.MAYO WANDI,I stayed in Ndoal and Kitwe too.I have also stayed in Senanga, Western Province, and so I have a feel of some places there including the flood plains and Mongu.I lived in Lusaka for about 8 years.I also stayed in Mazabuka, Choma, Maamba and Livingstone.I have been to places like kwa-Sianyoolo, kwa-hapiku, kkwa-Chiyawa,Siavonga and Chilundu.I had short stints at Nampumbwe and Dan Robinson,formerly Nambala,Gold Mine.
I must make mention here that I am one of the very few Zambians who has been inside Mumbwa Base – although the details are confidential. One of my very own first cousins even suspects that I may be a worker under OP for I’ve moved a lot, but I have NEVER been one.
No. 200, 202 and 203 Maestro Hhehhe…; You said, “Just look at how former President Chiluba campaign for President RB Banda in his village although the results were appalling since people there had already made up their minds that ‘nangu chibe shani nipabwato’ for no proper reason other than TRIBALISM.”
Did you mean, “Just look at how Daniel Munkombwe campaign for President RB Banda in his village although the results were appalling since people there had already made up their minds that ‘nangu chibe shani nipajanza’ for no proper reason other than TRIBALISM.”?
#208. MAESTRO ALTER-EGO, you see how you are always showing your ignorance on LT. Is Daniel Munkombwe charged for any criminal case in Zambia for your to compare him to former President Chiluba on your “Did you mean, “Just look at how Daniel Munkombwe campaign for President RB Banda in his village although the results were appalling since people there had already made up their minds that ‘nangu chibe shani nipajanza’ for no proper reason other than TRIBALISM.”?”
Also “nipajanza” has technocrats who has produced Magande and his improving of the Zambian economy compared to ‘nipabwato’ whose Undereducate in the Chiluba MMD Administration failed Zambians with thrid term campaigns, …
#209 continued.
Also “nipajanza” has technocrats who has produced Magande and his improving of the Zambian economy compared to ‘nipabwato’ whose Undereducate in the Chiluba MMD Administration failed Zambians with thrid term campaigns, …, macheting felow Zambians in Chawama with PANGAS, causing the Zambia Kwacha to go to more than 5000 to 1 US Dollar in 2001, moving around with ZK 2 Billion Kwacha cash to or from State House linked to MMD campaigns while it was deemed GRZ money, and so on and so forth.
My comments are on ‘criminally charged Lupulans and Northerners’ and not innocent Southerners of the respected Mr Daniel Munkombwe. Also, note that my relative Mr VJ Mwaanga, delivered 4RB.
209 AND 210 Maestro Hhehhe….; Your alter-ego is merely a mirror of yourself. Look very closely and you may not like what you see.
No. 210 Maestro HHehhe….; I am sure you meant to say, “Also “nipajanza” has technocrats who has produced Hichilem and his improving of his personal economy to whose Overeducated in the Chiluba MMD Administration failed Zambians with privitisation campaigns, …, macheting felow Zambians in Mapatizya with PANGAS, causing the Zambian worker in Luanshya to go to pauperism, moving around with ZK Billions Kwacha cash to or from State funds linked to Luanshya miners, Lima Bank and other retrenchees, and so on and so forth.
My comments are on ‘Southerners who should be criminally charged ’.”
#211, I now appreciate the fact that I have put a sense of impact on your life. You will continue learning from me and so do not worry for this is why I am Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, the Tonda Bull.
The glimer of hope started by PLM of putting corruption on the fore-front has been putout.
Is this not a matter of national improtance, XC comming back ?, should not have RB convened a pressconference ?, or is it just me thinking the matter is that important.
Many pipo are calling , rightly so, for the plundner cases to be droped to save money. But these cases have value that money can not measure. Like the imppression investores and other goverments have of zambia fighting corruption. It also keeps the fight in the populance phycic alive. If RB is genuine, the fights to harrase these thievs will continue.
people, what is happening???? i thought mwanawasa was not doing the good job.but,umwana atasha banina ukunaya ngali nesala. people,what the mwanawasa’s did want are the people whom our president money banda is wellcoming. banda show us your light we don’t want to leave in darkness. mind you, its just three years.i can’t trust my country any more.somethings is happening!!!!
Test the waters mwana X Chungu. If you are not arested, and survive everything they shall throw at you, I will also fly back. We should be able to pay off the other guys too. Just as we have done to RB.
I am tired of living in Exile.
ITS TOO EARLY TO BE EXCITED.REMEMBER HOW EXCITING THE MATRIX STORY WAS?HUGE AMOUNTS LIKE $80M WHERE MENTIONED:AND THEN WHAT?4 YEARS DOWN THE LINE MOST OF THE CASES IN COURT ARE FOR AMOUNTS LESS THAN $1M.TO ME CHUNGU IS SHARP AND I DONT THINK HE CAN COME AT MIDDAY FOR NO REASON.LETS WAIT AND SEE.GOD BLESS ZAMBIA……
so wat now???????????did u arrest ba mwine ba his excellence dr f.t.j chiluba?i dont think so but the homie was rite on our door step…lets just gimme the uncle a cold welcome n just go ahead wit vital issues on our *****..
I AGREE WITH MANY OF YOU GUYS. CHNADA IS TELLING LIES TOTALLY! WHY DID HE FIRST DECLARE HE DID NOT KNOW WHERE CHUNGU WAS AND THEN HE CLAIMS HE ASKED HIM BACK? CHANDA HIMSELFN HAS A CASE TO ANSWER THEN! CHUNGU WILL SOON BE FREE AND WILL START ENJOYINGN HIS MONEY FREELY AS THOUGH NOTHING HAPPENS. THOSE WHO WHERE CAMPAIGINING FOR RB YOU ARE NOW REAPING YOUR FRUITS. WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE WITH RB AND HIS GANGS- BACK TO DAYS OF POVERTY AND, CORRUPTIONS, INTIMIDATGIONS, ETC. IT IS PATHETIC AND I FEEL SORRY FOR MY FAMILY!
This is fantastic. There are more knowledgeable about this case than Chungu and his lawyer. Guys, mineni amate, you would enjoy to call your friends liars but not your selves. Let us agree here that we are all speculating about this case. All we know is Chungu is back in the country and the truth may or may not come out. To those who know how govt operates, they will tell you that there’s nothing special about govt apart from keeping secrets. Why do you think all those appointed swear? They swear to keep secrets, nothing else. So, not to disappoint you, prepare not to know the truth about the case. 95% of it in will be in camera.
“HONOUR AMONG THIEVES” For sure.
This chungu issue raises more questions than answers. We keep hearing that he came back on his own and willingly handed himself to the police. But why then was he using a fake name in his passport? And why wasnt his lawyer and the police waiting for him if he was coming to hand himself in? Why did it take a tip from an immigration officer to recognised him for the police to organise themselves and arrest him at the airport? I have a feeling that the guy simply intended to sneak into the country and live a quiet life with the full knowledge of RB’s govt. Him being arrested was not part of the plan
Chungu hasn’t come to give us his story. Its like ba bwezani called him for a job. The op seem not to have a capable represntative. Take a closer look at these pipo. [ thieves ]
Chungu hasn’t come to give us his story. Its like ba bwezani called him for a job. The op seem not to have a capable represntative. Take a closer look at these pipo. [ thieves ]
TRANSPARENCY International Zambia (TIZ) yesterday said a miscarriage of Xavier Chungu’s cases should not be condoned.
And Caritas Zambia executive director Samuel Mulafulafu has said Chungu’s return is a test case for President Rupiah Banda’s commitment to fighting corruption.
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Meanwhile, well-placed sources have disclosed that the government was aware of Chungu’s coming and that it facilitated his trip.
And President Rupiah Banda yesterday said the law will take its course on Chungu.
Commenting on fugitive former intelligence chief Chungu’s return and his subsequent arrest, TIZ executive director Goodwell Lungu said the law had to be observed on Chungu.
He said although there were speculations that the government had cut a deal with Chungu who was in self-imposed exile for four years, such a move would not work because Zambians were not sleeping.
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“Chungu left the country four years ago and we still have similar cases which have not yet been disposed of. This is a very unhealthy situation and a threat to the fight against corruption. Let all cases be disposed of within the shortest possible time,”
Meanwhile, well-placed sources disclosed that the state was aware about Chungu’s trip to return home. Sources said Chungu came from Mozambique via South Africa aboard Air link, a South African airline. The source said Chungu’s coming back home was a well co-ordinated and planned move.
“If you remember, before the President went to Nigeria, he hinted on Chungu. That time, arrangements for Chungu to come back had already been done. The President and other government officials are aware about Chungu’s coming. In fact, Chungu did not use a different passport; he used a good passport with all his details,” the source said. “Some intelligence officers were even sent to welcome him at the airport.
The promised Savior was born in Bethlehem and died for our sins. He promised to come back to take His own.
In Zambia a savior was born and when he grew up he store our wealth and dissappeared in thin air without promising to come back.Now he is back and has promised not to talk coz he is under oath.
Oh my dear this Zambian savior. He is not my savior thi s fake one, stealer.
SJC
Zambia shall be saved from economic hardships now because the saviour has come.
chungu u r free,brown evelopes r back now.
Let’s not be simplistic. Others are saying he wanted to sneak into the country by using a different names. Rashid Jones, said it, Chungu is a highly trained shushushu and can’t be that naive. There is more than meets the eye. In the first place, he fled Zambia using unclear routes. He never used the international airport for obvious reasons and his coming in using the international airport is for obvious reasons. Could it be that he was thinking no one would think he would use the international airport? I don’t think so, there is high surveillance at the International Airport and he would not escape it. let’s understand why Chungu fled. Remember in prison he suffered some poisoning
This is nice music to my ears. I hope the government puts the money to good use and that it won’t go to pay the lawyers, task force etc.
“The Task Force on Corruption has recovered plundered cash and assets worth K19 billion since its inception in 2002.
Executive Chairman, Max Nkole says the recovered public resources include 13 billion Kwacha deposited in a special bank account.”
IRI, THE LATE LPM ASKED AND HELPED MR CHUNGU TO LEAVE. THEY KNOW WHERE HE WENT INTO HIDING. IT WAS AND IS TILL A SECURITY STATE OF AFFAIR. NON OF THESE GUYS IS SMART. THEY ARE ALL DIRTY!
Zambian in Norway, what Task Force has recovered is peanuts as compared to the money which the Government spent on them. Since 2002 do you think K19 Billion is worthy announcing? If you convert that amount into US$ how much is it? Millions of US$ have gone how much have you recovered? What percentage? This is absolutely nothing.
#236 thanks for the input. I am not so updated to know the costs involved in this situation. I mean the plundering and the court sessions. Although I do know that it has cost us a fortune to pay the task force and the lawyers.
Really sad especially when I read about the deplorable state of hospitals and clinics. It pains me so much.
The return of fugive Chungu back to Zambia leves a lot of doubt on the credibility RB’s Govt. It explains reason why Chiluba suddenly changed his position to support MMD istead of PF. Chiluba must have been promised a lot of things including droping all the court cases and recognising his legacy which had been put in jeopardy by the Mwanawasa admn. In the first,lace why should Chungu return shortly after Levy’ death? Plse tell us the truth.MMd is full of treachery.
# 238, i agree with you 99.95%. That’s Zed, i knew it was coming and they have bought enough time.
The return of fugitive Chungu explains why Chiluba suddenly changed his potical position from PF to MMD shortly after the demise of Levy. Chiluba must have been promised a lot of things including dropping all pending court cases and recognising his 10 year legacy which had generated in to oblivion bcoz of levy’s fight against corruption. It is clear that MMD is now compromised with criminals like VJs,Kateles and so on to continue plundering the resources. Be careful, God is watching you RB.
Sarah, good points. But now he is to be dealt with by the law. We need strong judges with strong principles to deal with these situations.
Good Move Mr Lawyer. Now can we have the truth? It will hurt others alotbut we all deserve to know. And what of his oath of secrecy?
Its annoying to note that case of $488,000 has already cost more that $1.5m with no conviction yet.
We wait for the truth to put things in perspective.
The prosecuttion of plunderers was a good cause but in it lay a monster invisible to many and the campaign has largely contributed to the continued slow development in other sectors of society. The $1m plus paid to the prosecutors could have gone a long way in improving lives of ordinary citizens. Shame on the so called “legacy”. I cry for my fellow zedians.
Ladies and gentlemen, let us know that a criticle analysis of the fight against corruption will leave your mouth testing like you’ve chewed on an aloe vera(itembusha) capsule. Its all a masquardade of political engineering to curtail the influence of particular indivuduals in the sharing of resorces well known to both the incumbent and his predecessor (what everthe case, from the FTJ-KK victimisation, LPM-FTJ- and the now RB-Family tree) NOn of these leaders wished to have the continued burden of having very close links with the predecessors and to deal with them something had to be done.
You and I may not know all about the states extra resources and thse pipo do. So the best thing ….
Rashid jones is an arrogant foreigner from a nameless neighbouring country with sudden assess to the internet. Because of who Zambians are, he is feeling secure enough to say what he does about his hosts. Go home dude. We can turn ugly when we want to.
With all said and done what next now really …..
+is for the victims to backoff or face tentative measures such as Jail in the name of attampted coup, prosecutions in the name of fight against corruption and who knows what FXC has broaght to the foe for the family tree? We wait
If Chungu is innocent then Saddam .H died an innocent too!!!!!!!
Strong judges should stop cases dragging on too long, bad lawyers and weak judges cause long delays and excessive public cost.
Chungu is back!!! Elyo lwanya. That says a lot about RB’s goverment…. “They” are back! I rest my case
NICHOLAS YOU ARE A CORRUPT LAWYER BUT YOUR DAYS ARE ALSO NUMBERED
ahta!!!!!!!!!!!!!these bastards disgust me after the death of the gr8 warrior are they coming home. just like ka bushman after ba tu sha ba Levy it now has started barking like a hungry dog.
MUPOKENIKO SHIMO MUPELE ABALECULA,MWIKAMUPA BAIL AGAIN