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President Sata to receive final draft constitution alone

Time Posted: December 30, 2013 5:42 pm
President Michael Sata at Statehouse

President Michael Sata at Statehouse

The Technical Committee Drafting the Constitution has disclosed that the final draft constitution will be handed over to President Sata alone.

Addressing a media briefing in Lusaka Monday afternoon, Technical Committee Drafting the Constitution Spokesman Ernest Mwansa revealed that efforts to request government to allow them print more copes failed to yield positive results.

Mr Mwansa however failed to state exactly when the final draft constitution will be handed over to President Sata.

“In accordance with our mandate to be accountable to the Zambian people and also precedents set by the Mwanakatwe and Mungomba Constitution Review Commissions, it was our desire to have the stated documents handed over simultaneously to the appointing authority and to the general public, further, it was our desire that government prints adequate copies of the final draft constitution as well as the accompanying documents and this facilitate a meaningful validation process of the work that the technical committee has done by members of the general public,” he said.

He added, “Our request to the government in this regard has however not yielded ay positive results. The technical committee has not been given the mandate by the government to print adequate copies of the final draft constitution, report of the technical committee and the constitution of Zambia Bill to facilitate hand over to the appointing authority ad simultaneously general public. The committee is therefore left with no option but to hand over the documents to the appointing authority alone so as not to delay the conclusion of the constitution making process any further.”

Mr Mwansa also announced that the journey of drafting a new constitution that the technical committee embarked upon two years ago has now come to and end.

108 Comments

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    flag Zambiano says: Zambiano
    December 30, 2013 at 5:49 pm |

    Crap !! Stop making mountains out of the mole hills.Who said only Sata will receive the copy alone.The 10 copies will be distributed to all the important executive wings.LT stop sensationalizing your stories.You are now becoming cheap like ZWD.

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      flag ndobo says: ndobo
      December 30, 2013 at 5:56 pm |

      when some wrote about fear and witchcraft,,, i dismissed it!,,but now i think he was right…. someone is fearful and i know who the witch is,. just look at the face, then you can see fear and witchcraft in his eyes

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      flag Educated UPND says: Educated UPND
      December 30, 2013 at 6:00 pm |

      Of course it is alone, PF is Sata and Sata is PF, the other 9 copies are for PF A-team to help the preisent read it faster and help you understand it. The message from the president is I should that he should just read it alone.

      If that is different, then let him authorise the technical committee to publish it on their website..we don’t even need a printed copy in this day and age ..we have chinese phones now, even our garden boys have them too and even our maids

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      flag Umwina Bulaya on vacation says: Umwina Bulaya on vacation
      December 30, 2013 at 6:06 pm |

      Which Sata alone ? Even the Uk Zambians page has correct information.Grow up ba LT and build your own image.Dont lose track by following ZWD’s direction.Smh

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      flag ex-moma says: ex-moma
      December 30, 2013 at 6:09 pm |

      ‘the committee has been left with no option but to handover the documents to the appointing authority ALONE’ -who tell might that be?’

      The constitution is not for freedom fighters but the Zambian youth, the future is in the youth.Maybe they should be the ones to get the constitution ALONE

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      flag Nostradamus says: Nostradamus
      December 30, 2013 at 7:10 pm |

      @Ndobo, that’s not right to attack my Uncle. His family knows nothing about witch-whatever, he is not like Kabimba.
      But Yama resembles a ngoshe-lupola, the viper mwe!!

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      flag Sponx says: Sponx
      December 30, 2013 at 7:37 pm |

      Ha ha ha ati Sata alone.I bet this is what you get when you have grade 7′s writing news tailored for half literate bloggers like ndobo and Wanzelu.Articles like this are aimed at inciting emotions in brains of the people I have mentioned.

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      flag zambianyouth says: zambianyouth
      December 30, 2013 at 7:47 pm |

      am sure you dont know african politics,but dont worry this is zambia my friend,very soon you will understand it..what has changed now coz all previous constitution review commissions simultaneously released the constitution at the same time to the public so that people can ascertain if its a true reflection of their input and why should govt resist such a move to an extent of differing with the review commission

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      flag ndobo says: ndobo
      December 30, 2013 at 7:56 pm |

      @sponx
      you live is a free world, if Lusaka times and its bloggers are shallow to you, go BBC, CNN, and other `PhD` blogs… why are you blogging on shallow lusaka times?,, you are in fact shallow than you think!!

      @Nostradamus
      your yama ngoshe is a ndoshi,,, am pray for true uncle GBM that harm will unleashed on him

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      flag It is our Doc says: It is our Doc
      December 30, 2013 at 8:24 pm |

      People in IT dept please leak that document to the public on behalf of Zambians. Nothing will happen to you. You know how to do it best. Even if the president recives it alone. Nothing can be changed without informing the Tech comm.

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      flag REVOLUTION 2014+ says: REVOLUTION 2014+
      December 30, 2013 at 8:28 pm |

      Constitution hijacked !! Ooooh Sata!!

      Lies, lies lies, deception!!, Suppression of freedoms, Oppression and archiac tricks can prove lethal.
      I now know why civil wars and bullets in the head are a common feature in poor countries.Disjointed thinking of PF is simply unsettling and highly catastrophic.

      A democratically elected president who butchers the very tenets of democracy in his own country is himself an adept enemy of the people and democracy itself!!!
      Sata please do the right thing for once!! You are too old for unnecessary BP! Time is now ripe to awaken peoples WILL power!!

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      flag COME 2014+ says: COME 2014+
      December 30, 2013 at 8:56 pm |

      Technical Committee, u have the terms of reference on yo side, just publish the constitution on your website, imwe! what is this pleading for…..
      Its only in Zambia where the learned have no relevance in the country’s discourse and a shame to the masses. How can the Professors, DR, MBA holders and all the educated support such nonsense for the sake of filing their pockets. What legacy are you defining for the future,!!
      TC, YOU OWE IT TO ZAMBIANS, WHOSE MONEY SATA IS LOOTING, JUST F PUBLISH THE CONSTITUTION ON YOUR WEB SITE!!!

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      flag am says: am
      December 30, 2013 at 9:13 pm |

      i think you the one who is cheap. This SATA and his PF want tocheat us out of our inalienable right to a legal framework and you make fun out of this? You must be bemba or may be, you are a Grade 7 failure.

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      flag abeenaaa! says: abeenaaa!
      December 30, 2013 at 10:54 pm |

      ubupuba ba sata. 2016 peepi.

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      flag Wanzelu says: Wanzelu
      December 30, 2013 at 11:31 pm |

      Sata wants to sneak in some dodgy clauses in the constitution to allow his wife and son ascend to power on a silver plata. What does he take Zambians for?

      We know his schemes, of trying to raise the term of office to 7 years and bar people who have never stood for parliamentary elections to stand for presidency. He is trying to doctor the constitution to disadvantage opposition leaders .

      Azachiona come late 2016 when we shall turn up the heat and make him sit on two hot stones.

      In his small brain he thinks Zambians will tolerate his nonsense for a long time. Lets wait and see.

      No other party will deliver Zambia from this political slavery apart from UPND. HH is the man to restore sanity in Zambia.

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      flag GBM says: GBM
      December 31, 2013 at 4:07 am |

      GBM, organize the military , this ugly Sata will only understand bullets.

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      flag kabwa says: kabwa
      December 31, 2013 at 6:42 am |

      The is simply unacceptable in this day & age!!WHAT THE TC SHOULD REALISE IS THAT THE EXERCISE WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE, Sata IS SIMPLY THE CEREMONIAL APPOINTING AUTHORITY! Zambian TAX PAYERS ARE WHOM THIS COMMITTEE IS ANSWERABLE TO!! If this Constitution is ever manipulated, THE TC WILL HAVE BEEN SEEN TO HAVE CONNIVED with PF & Sata!! The TC CANNOT BE THIS IRRESPONSIBLE!! They have to publish this document over the Internet, where at least the Prime copy will NOT be MANIPULATED!! WE ARE NOT LIVING IN THE STONEAGE & USING SMOKE SIGNALS TO COMMUNICATE!!!

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      flag Zed@crossroad says: Zed@crossroad
      December 31, 2013 at 8:43 am |

      Bembas at play

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      flag PRM says: PRM
      December 31, 2013 at 9:03 am |

      Zambiano, out alone with yourself, you know very well that what you want us to believe about the 10 copies of the Draft Constitution Sata wants to receive – Alone- even a child would not buy. The Constitution belongs to the people and speaks about how they want to live as a nation. Please be fair, you will need this precious document very soon when someone else is in state house. This country does not belong to one individual to decide how we should be governed alone.

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      flag Mulenga and Jelita says: Mulenga and Jelita
      December 31, 2013 at 10:42 am |

      I have only two words.

      Oh dear.

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      flag Wanu Ngwee says: Wanu Ngwee
      December 31, 2013 at 11:21 am |

      Iwe Ernest Mwansa, don’t deny Zambians the opportunity to see their final draft of the constitution as they want it. We don’t want an edited version of the critical inputs that most well meaning Zambians made during the constitution making process. You have the obvious option of leaking this final draft to the Internet and millions of people’s -mails!!! PLEASE DO IT NOW!!!

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    flag kamayoyo says: kamayoyo
    December 30, 2013 at 5:49 pm |

    The ugliest man to have graced any high office on planet Earth. I almost vomit when ever I see this chap.

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      flag Mzambia wa zamani says: Mzambia wa zamani
      December 31, 2013 at 12:46 am |

      He’s even uglier where it matters most(in the heart) with an untrustworthiness plus opportunism to match.

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      flag Wanzelu says: Wanzelu
      December 31, 2013 at 12:58 am |

      Their hearts are uglier than they look!

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    flag MATADOR says: MATADOR
    December 30, 2013 at 5:50 pm |

    These people likes joking.

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      flag Sepisooo says: Sepisooo
      December 30, 2013 at 6:07 pm |

      These people LIKE joking.
      Get it right,silly

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    flag Makaveli says: Makaveli
    December 30, 2013 at 5:58 pm |

    Sata looks exactly like Mushota!Look at his face……

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      flag Mulenga and Jelita says: Mulenga and Jelita
      December 31, 2013 at 10:50 am |

      LOL and rolling on the ground.

      You have made my day!!

      We should carry out a DNA test to determine paternity. Perhaps Mushota is a first albeit illegitimate daughter of the nation wallowing in relative poverty some where in Scotland.

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    flag JFK says: JFK
    December 30, 2013 at 5:59 pm |

    PF in govt. – beware; this is going to lead to your down fall. It appears Zambians are being taken for granted.

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    flag Sepiso says: Sepiso
    December 30, 2013 at 6:04 pm |

    Sata looks exactly like Mushota!How in the hell did he get Dr.Kaseba?Now,I know I can get any woman too.

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      flag Mfumu says: Mfumu
      December 30, 2013 at 10:27 pm |

      Simple, when Kaseba was a medical student Sata had money and influence and power. That combination is an aphrodisiac to many impressionable young women.

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    flag mwansa stepson says: mwansa stepson
    December 30, 2013 at 6:09 pm |

    Pse relax, I have soft copy got from there. I will share website where u can all download it for free by midnight **************

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      flag Jungle boy says: Jungle boy
      December 31, 2013 at 12:19 pm |

      You really are a joker! Even if by a miracle you were to get a leaked copy, it would not be official.

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    flag THE SAINT says: THE SAINT
    December 30, 2013 at 6:13 pm |

    JUST STICK IT ON THE INTERNET ATA!

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      flag Chipembele says: Chipembele
      December 30, 2013 at 7:42 pm |

      Where is the Zambian Edward Snowden kansi? I believe those technical committee have thumb drives and can download the doc on the net! PF matter call year new

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      flag One Hit Wonder! says: One Hit Wonder!
      December 30, 2013 at 11:47 pm |

      why can’t someone just leak it! Come ZWD – you must have a copy!

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      flag Jungle boy says: Jungle boy
      December 31, 2013 at 12:23 pm |

      There is just one draw back. When the official copy comes out through the ‘Appointing Authority’ it will very different from the leaked copies.

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      flag Cindy says: Cindy
      December 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm |

      @Jungle Boy,
      Then the original will appear later somewhere on the outskirts of Matero!

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    flag Mpundu trust says: Mpundu trust
    December 30, 2013 at 6:16 pm |

    THAT IS THE PROCURE WORLDWIDE,I GUESS!

    NO ONE, EVEN THE PRESIDENT, CAN SCRATCH IT BEFORE THE FINAL COPY AND THE MASSES HAVE HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT AND PRODUCED, BECAUSE THE ARCHITECTS OF THE CONSTITUTION DO HAVE THE ORIGINAL COPIES ANYWAY.

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    flag INDEPENDENT OBSERVER says: INDEPENDENT OBSERVER
    December 30, 2013 at 6:16 pm |

    Has anyone noted that of recent, every action Sata takes is simply backfiring on.

    1. The BenaLubemba embarrassed him
    2. The threat to GBM has backfired on him
    3. The Constitution will backfire too.

    This is not Zambia in 1964 when we had less than 100 graduates in the nation and only people in towns had access to news. We are living in the Information Technology era, which means not even people in the villages can be rubber stamped completely.

    Kabimba tell your boss not to mess with the Constitution – It will not work. Mind you we can publish the same constitution he wants to hide, into PDF Copies, on the internet. for every to see it.

    There is nothing like secrets in Zambia

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    flag Lungowe says: Lungowe
    December 30, 2013 at 6:17 pm |

    Which part of “we will hand over the 10 copies to the government executive wings” didn’t you understand from Ernest Mwansa’s press briefing for you to only single out Sata as the only recipient ? I don’t even like Sata but you guys at LT and other tuntemba internet news media in Zambia are bringing the reputation of journalism to disrepute.Seriously you have to improve.

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      flag mwlkala mushi says: mwlkala mushi
      December 30, 2013 at 10:06 pm |

      Uku kuyasana bushe how docile can us zambians be? if we can not riot on this then we are STUPID.lets start the stop SATA CAMPAIGN 2016 is too far!

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      flag One Hit Wonder! says: One Hit Wonder!
      December 30, 2013 at 11:52 pm |

      come-on! don’t take everything so literal. Newspapers/online publications have to have catchy headlines. The buck stops at Sata as head of this puppet or is it muppet government and therefore he is the appointing authority – gosh! Trivialities!!!!

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      flag One Hit Wonder! says: One Hit Wonder!
      December 31, 2013 at 12:42 am |

      come-on! don’t take everything so literal. Newspapers/online publications have to have catchy headlines. The buck stops at Sata as head of this puppet or is it muppet government and therefore he is the appointing authority – gosh! Trivialities!!!!

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      flag Jungle boy says: Jungle boy
      December 31, 2013 at 12:30 pm |

      @ Lungowe
      The question you should ask your shallow mind is why the general public is being left out. simultaneous release entailed even a validation process. All that has been left out.

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    flag Ba Mayo says: Ba Mayo
    December 30, 2013 at 6:19 pm |

    Zambia has a population of 15 million and the constitution is an agreed document by which 15 million people agree to be governed. This printing of just 10 copies is even an insult to you objecting Lusaka Times headline “President Sata to receive final draft constitution alone” who in the executive will have the final say but that dictator himself! Don’t be fooled as Zambians, stand up and say NO… Unless you’ve accepted living in you Animal farm and think its okay to print even 10 when by law 15 million people are entitled to a copy at first release….. Bena Zambia how sad has our country become when you’ll soon be told even where m when to answer to natures call yet you call yourself a democrat! What a sad people, i feel sorry for the direction Zambia is heading? Good luck my…

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    flag Voice of the Lamba says: Voice of the Lamba
    December 30, 2013 at 6:46 pm |

    I don’t see why we should castigate LT. for the head line the big picture is that the PF lied to us that they will give us the constitution in 90 days but they have totally failed. Zambians wake up from your slumber. Weep and mourn for your Land has being defiled with lies and unreasonable men.

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      flag Nine Chale says: Nine Chale
      December 30, 2013 at 7:49 pm |

      Its the quality of the report that is being castigated. You don’t need journalism skills to see the “hype” that someone is building around the facts concerning the constitution. At the end of the day, what matters is that the people of Zambia get their constitution and not the process of how they got it. I like how bloggers are able to see beyond the horizon.

      No need to weep and mourn – it will only signal resignation and powerlessness which is an optimum requisite for tyranny. Real patriots will stand up and fight. It is when the government fears the people that true democracy prevails. For now, relax your nerves and let the New Year come in…

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    flag LUAPULA PREMIER says: LUAPULA PREMIER
    December 30, 2013 at 6:55 pm |

    LT, THAT IS THE STANDARD PROCURE WORLDWIDE. THEN PARLIAMENT. THEN THE PUBLIC. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL COS EVERY1 WILL HAVE CHANCE TO REVIEW IT BEFORE IT BECOMES LAW.

    28 November 2013 Kenyan president rejects controversial media bill and sent it back..
    13 September, 2013 President Zuma has rejected info bill and sent it back..

    LT TRYING IS DELIBERATELY TRY TO INCITE PEOPLE’S EMOTIONS BY PUBLISHING INFORMATION PIECE MEAL JUST BECAUSE OF OUR LOW LEVEL OF EDUCATION.

    THE PRESIDENT, IF HE WANTS, CAN STILL REJECT IT ANYWAY, SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL….?

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      flag Nostradamus says: Nostradamus
      December 30, 2013 at 7:36 pm |

      Kenya & South Africa would be the most useless countries to be inspired by.
      Take countries like: Botswana and Namibia

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      flag Chinyama says: Chinyama
      December 30, 2013 at 7:42 pm |

      When the govt scores a say it as load as you do when the opposit happens.

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      flag matipa says: matipa
      December 30, 2013 at 8:03 pm |

      @LUAPULA fimofimo
      just use one blog name you 1diot. you think by using multiple names we will think there are many who have a similar warped thinking yet you are just alone. you will be recalled from that embassy in one and half years time. how fast time can fly

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      flag Wize says: Wize
      December 30, 2013 at 10:00 pm |

      You clearly don’t understand the difference between parliament and constitutional making process. Your examples are misplaced sorry. You are talking about a president rejecting a bill from parliament not a bill.

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    flag Chinyama says: Chinyama
    December 30, 2013 at 7:40 pm |

    @ndobo your comments sometimes are not appreciated tune up to constructive blogging

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    flag My Own says: My Own
    December 30, 2013 at 7:41 pm |

    Maybe from a different angle guys, the committee was appointed by the same Sata, a national president. Definitely they have to report to him first before anybody. Even if it is not in the constitution processes, even in our various work places when the boss delegates authority of an activity to a subordinate he has to verify the work by going through a report written or verbal by the same officer who carried out the particular activity.

    Sata having the privilege of reading the document first, does not amount to altering the statements enshrined there in but will be allowed to give his opinion first before the document is debated by the Public.

    I do respect your concerns all above but lets try to be patient enough and time for us to debate will come soon.

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      flag Wize says: Wize
      December 30, 2013 at 10:04 pm |

      You are wrong. The president appointed these people on behalf of the people of Zambia who hired the president. So this must be reported to the boss who are the Zambian people. You really don’t want the president to be the boss of the constitution making process do you? And you expect to get a fair document?

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    flag Osmore says: Osmore
    December 30, 2013 at 7:54 pm |

    @Luapula premier u have spoken well these incorporeal type of journalists and the demagogue they support want to mislead pipo .Especially these demons like Ndobo,Wanzelu,Australia engineer,Nostradum and other sick minds here.

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      flag Nostradamus says: Nostradamus
      December 30, 2013 at 10:00 pm |

      @Osmore, where are you, your name & flag is scary, you Law sha-what-what, I hope you will not influence anything on the Zambia-christian constitution.

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      flag Jungle boy says: Jungle boy
      December 31, 2013 at 12:39 pm |

      @Osmore
      LT inciting people? The way LT has reported it is accurate and that is how ZNBC has reported it also. Civil Society organizations even condemned the Technical Committee for siding with Govt against the general public.

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    flag rebased millionaire says: rebased millionaire
    December 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm |

    Nice

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    flag s2c says: s2c
    December 30, 2013 at 8:02 pm |

    Chanda Chimba III was very right on the Cobra and his lies. Now the Zambians are being taken for a ride. Two bad for our country, may God serve his children.

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    flag Floyd Chitalu says: Floyd Chitalu
    December 30, 2013 at 8:10 pm |

    Just own up you committee member, you have chewed far too much money. Just give it to the one who appointed you. Giving this document to every stake holder will just open another pandora’s box. These stake holders know no boundaries. They cry for anything. They will anyother day add, subtract, mutiply and divide the same message they submitted yesturday. They will oppose each other over the same correct or wrong sentences within the constitution. Give it to president and keep quite, you have sunk too much money into your pockets.

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    flag LUAPULA PREMIER says: LUAPULA PREMIER
    December 30, 2013 at 8:22 pm |

    @ Ndobo,
    @Wanzelu,
    @Australia engineer,
    @Nostradum

    Pleople like Ndobo, Wanzelu, Australia engineer, Nostradum and others may not be sick in their minds but could have limitations with education. They lack independent thought and analytical minds or may be they have never been exposed enough.

    For example, why should a president censor a document which is already in the public domain? Why should a a rich man like HH or GBM enter politics except for his pocket.

    Today GBM is crying foul play with his trucking business. Have you ever heard Tangote or Patrice Motsepe complaining?

    Its people like Ndobo, Wanzelu etc whom LT & ZWD target.

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      flag chikubabeniso says: chikubabeniso
      December 30, 2013 at 8:55 pm |

      @luapula,in reality its u who lacks exposure ,rich politicians in USA complain and offer their solutions ,eg on guns ,Bloomberg NY mayor,the Koch brothers,on aca – warren buffer.you are wrong again when u say the president receive the report first ,only if it involves national security,otherwise the senate,house committees for the particular area will receive the briefing and copies before even the president,then they debate on it ,from their a comprehensive final document is handed over to the senate ,house chambers.do a research on the USA bill of rights.

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      flag Wanzelu says: Wanzelu
      December 30, 2013 at 10:33 pm |

      @Luapula Premier,
      Please spare us your nonsense. What level of eduction are you talking about.? Are you yourself educated enough to read between the lines when you can’t even make simple projections about where your fellow Mad PF men are taking this country.
      Your leaders are failing to articulate simple issues such as, why the price of meali meal has gone up within a short space of time, while some of you their advisers are just looking on. If you and your cohort can’t understand simple economics and sociology then you better go back to school and study so you can learn how economic factors influence sociological dynamics. Failure to do that the people will rise up one day and lynch you guys. KK was spared because he read the mood of the people was quick enough to stop the madness.

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      flag Wanzelu says: Wanzelu
      December 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm |

      @Luapula Premier,
      Even your family including your own children know that you are Sata ‘s bootlicker and that you lack independent thought because you operate on instructions from a madman in plot 1.
      My colleagues and I in the diaspora can never let us ourselves be belittled by your Sata and then go on to kiss his a.s.s. We are the sort of people who education liberated from political slavery. We can never be subjugated to praise a lunatic like Sata for a piece of bread like you CNP guys. Most of us are independent men and women who do not beg the government for jobs. Our education has given us independence and wings to fly to greater heights without the need to bootlick an Id.i.o.t for our survival.
      Luapula premier and your cohort ,though educated you are Sata’s political slaves

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    flag Enka says: Enka
    December 30, 2013 at 8:24 pm |

    Why is this imperial president to recieve the draft constitution alone? Something’s not right.Proper countries never leave MONUMENTOUS DECISIONS like this one or going to war to a lone ranger….a crazy one too.

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    flag Lazi! says: Lazi!
    December 30, 2013 at 8:24 pm |

    Masobela yama koswe aya…

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    flag satani ni mafyete says: satani ni mafyete
    December 30, 2013 at 8:26 pm |

    who is mafyete according to postnewspaper dated 02 November 2009 in kasama after GBM won a by-election president said…

    PATRIOTIC Front (PF) president Michael Sata has described President Rupiah Banda as a mafyete first class liar who duped the Zambian people by campaigning to continue building on Levy Mwanawasa’s legacy.

    Addressing a thanksgiving rally for the PF’s victory in the Kasama Central by-election at Kasama’s President’s Park on Saturday, Sata said it was now over a year since President Banda fraudulently became President but had nothing to show for it in terms of development except running himself into a myriad of scandals.

    He said although President Banda lied that he was campaigning to continue on late president Mwanawasa’s legacy, he actually came to dismantle…

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    flag satani ni mafyete says: satani ni mafyete
    December 30, 2013 at 8:38 pm |

    president sata has failed to give the zambia people a constitution he promised three years ago. and rupiah also failed to fulfil his campaign promises and he was nikenamned as mafyete by the current president, now who is mafyete answer me!
    Newly-elected Kasama Central member of parliament Geoffrey Bwalya Mwamba called for reconciliation in order for people to work together.

    Mwamba said people may have been filled with emotions during the campaigns but now was the time to work together.

    Earlier in an interview on Saturday, Sata charged that President Banda was very deceptive.

    On the PF’s victory in Kasama Central, Sata said at least the people showed that MMD losing candidate Burton Mugala was more popular than President Banda.

    He said whereas Mugala managed to get over 4,000…

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    flag Chisenga says: Chisenga
    December 30, 2013 at 8:46 pm |

    I NEED TO BE EDUCATED HERE. WHY ARE WE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY THE DRAFT IS RELASED? WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT IS IN THE DRAFT. SO WHETHER IT IS RELEASED SIMULTANEOUSLY TO SATA AND THE PUBLIC OR NOT IT DOES’NT MATTER. IF SATA IS A DICTATOR HE CAN STILL THROW IT AWAY EITHER WAY. I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH IS THE MODE OF ADOPTION. EVEN IN THE DAYS OF KAUNDA PEOPLE KNEW WHAT KAUNDA HAD REJECTED FROM ALL THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEWS. BUT IT WAS THE MODE OF ADOPTION WHICH WAS WRONG. I KNOW, ONCE BEATEN, TWICE SHY. BUT LET US NOT BE MISTAKEN. EVEN IF THE DRAFT WAS PUBLISHED ON ONLINE MEDIA, ELECTRONIC OR PRINT MEDIA SATA CAN STILL DECIDE TO REJECT IT. SO, FOR ME IT IS BETTER TO INSIST ON THE BEST MODE OF ADOPTION. NOT THIS NAME-CALLING ABOUT SIMULTANEOUS RELEASE.

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    flag Chisenga says: Chisenga
    December 30, 2013 at 8:52 pm |

    AND BY THE WAY, SATA CAN PLAY THE HERO BY SUDDENLY DECIDING TO HAVE THE ENTIRE DRAFT PUBLISHED ON ALL MEDIA. TO THE SHAME OF THOSE CALLING HIM NAMES. SO PLEASE LETS BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

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      flag chikubabeniso says: chikubabeniso
      December 30, 2013 at 9:06 pm |

      How does he became a hero when the terms of reference d
      Prescribed the simultaneously release of the copies to presdo and public.the Tc said no positive response to release it both.its sad to note the intellectual analysis of issues.for those getting kwachas from wk its ok but to free bloggers lets try broader thinking.

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    flag The Saint says: The Saint
    December 30, 2013 at 8:55 pm |

    You mean he sired Mushota, from Scotland?

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    flag LUAPULA PREMIER says: LUAPULA PREMIER
    December 30, 2013 at 8:56 pm |

    @matipa

    YOU WILL SHALLOW YOUR WORDS, COME 2016.

    I M NOT ON ANYONE’S PAYROLL. SATA, GBM, THE PASTOR OR HH CANNOT MEET MY LIVING EXPENSES. MAY BE TANGOTE CAN….

    @mATIPA, I AM IN ZAMBIA, TONGA LAND , TO BE SPECIPIC, CAMPAIGNING. TOMORROW I WILL BE IN BAROTSE LAND BEFORE I MOVE ON TO MBEBA LAND WHILST HH AND THE PASTOR ARE TOO PRE – OCCUPIED WITH THE NURSES.

    WHO WILL UN-SEAT PF? YOU WILL SHALLOW YOUR WORDS, COME 2016.

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      flag Wanzelu says: Wanzelu
      December 30, 2013 at 11:08 pm |

      @Luapula Premier

      Can you stop lying for once . How can you be in places at the same time.

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    flag Harold Muna says: Harold Muna
    December 30, 2013 at 9:00 pm |

    Ten copies or one, this is still a travesty. This is not how a people driven Constitution intended to stand the test of time is made. Sata will simply re-write it in a way that either preserves the status quo or accords him further leeway to act at the whim of his dictatorial grounding. Its mostly govt. powers that are meant to be clipped or re-defined by the new Constitution. Thus, not the executive, but the people and their representatives should have the final say – otherwise the whole process, yet again, has been a shameless political falsehood and money making venture at the expense of the tax payer. If we allow Sata to have his way with the Constitution, it will be the last nail that will confirm that Zambia is headed for anarchy.

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    flag mp says: mp
    December 30, 2013 at 9:10 pm |

    What do you expect from the UNIP era Leadership? We told you to vote for our generation and thought you clever. In Tonga we say, ” Ahumwi ulya ncha tebuula” ..You reap what you sow. Vote wisely next time, try to look further than the empty promises that you THE ZAMBIAN VOTERS are accustomed to! Do not be cheated that we still need the old and the experienced! You do not need experience to do the right thing? That is what our leadership lacks…the will to do the right thing/ putting the interests of the people first. Zambian Politics 101: Politics of poverty, appeasement, yes bwana, no principle. The likes of the George Mpombo’s …a minister kneeing when getting directives from LPM….Imagine what this guy is capable of doing to simply please the appointing authority. For Real…

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    flag LUAPULA PREMIER says: LUAPULA PREMIER
    December 30, 2013 at 9:11 pm |

    @ chikubabeniso

    PLEASE DIGEST THE TEXT OF MY POSTING FULLY.

    IN THE USA, RICH PEOPLE LOBBY POLITICAL LEADERSHIP FOR POLICY CHANGE PUBLICLY.
    IN AFRICA, THEY DO SO PRIVATELY BECAUSE OF THE FLUIDITY OR UNSTABLE DEMOCRACIES.

    ASK MARK CHONA, CHILALA, TANGOTE AND MOTSEPE…

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    flag Nyati says: Nyati
    December 30, 2013 at 9:15 pm |

    Now i respect HH more & more for leaving the pact, HH has indeed a foresight. Pf government & its leadership is a disaster & an Ak47 to the Zambians.

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    flag dudelove says: dudelove
    December 30, 2013 at 9:18 pm |

    That is one scary looking fella!

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    flag kawewe says: kawewe
    December 30, 2013 at 9:40 pm |

    ba luapula are you a goverment agent? the point is that we want to see it at the same time as the executive so that if the executive dont like it and we the zambians like it we shall make it known to the in concise and clear actions that its our constitution we like it and the must give it to us even if the dont find it favourable to their MO now do you see why we want to see it now.

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    flag Chisenga says: Chisenga
    December 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm |

    NO ONE SEEMS TO BE INTERESTED IN RESPONDING TO MY QUESTION. IF IT WAS SURELY IN THE TERMS OF REFERENCE THAT THE DRAFT SHOULD BE RELEASED SIMULTANEOUSLY TO SATA AND THE PUBLIC, THEN I DONT SEE IT WRONG FOR THE TC TO RELEASE AN ONLINE COPY AS WELL. THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT CHANGED THE TERMS. YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST TYING YOURSELVES IN SMALL KNOTS FOR NOTHING. EVEN IF IT WAS RELEASED THIS WAY IT WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY BECOME LAW. THATS WHY I STILL INSIST THAT WE SHOILD CONCENTRATE ON ADVOCATING FOR A BETTER MODE OF ADOPTING THE DRAFT INSTEAD OF BIKERRING ON THE MERITS AND DE-MERITS OF A SIMULTANEOUS RELEASE.

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    flag kawewe says: kawewe
    December 30, 2013 at 10:03 pm |

    are your full names luapula chisenga? we the zambians want to see OUR DRAFT NOW! just do the right thing and give it to the zambians so that they the citizens can see if the document it a clear reflection of their desires concerning the how the want to be ruled there our laws so we the zambians may unite collectively decide weather we like the draft or not. not were a few more equal zambians few the should decide for the whole country.

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    flag doyo says: doyo
    December 30, 2013 at 10:09 pm |

    zambians open your eyes its time to make your self heard say whats on your mind

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    flag Mukame says: Mukame
    December 30, 2013 at 10:11 pm |

    This document must be on someone’s pen drive. Why can’t it just be leaked on the internet … accidentally? If you see what I mean.

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      flag chills says: chills
      December 30, 2013 at 10:16 pm |

      way to go sir

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    flag THE HOUR says: THE HOUR
    December 30, 2013 at 10:19 pm |

    Mwamba Luchembe!

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    flag Troy says: Troy
    December 30, 2013 at 10:40 pm |

    Lmao this picture is classic yaba. Kekekekekekekke

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    flag mwansabemba says: mwansabemba
    December 30, 2013 at 11:19 pm |

    The enemy of democracy, the enemy of the m ajority in poor Zambia! falling in the ditch.

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    flag Cactus.. says: Cactus..
    December 31, 2013 at 12:15 am |

    The notion that President Sata will somehow find it in himself to respect the new constitution once it is in force is at best a very funny joke. History has clearly shown that President Sata has a very big ego. So big that he is a law unto himself. He resents and fights off regulatory framework or anyone who is perceived by society as more ‘powerful’ than him. So I do not know where this excitement about a new constitution is coming from. It won’t bring any change. Zero.

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    flag LUAPULA PREMIER says: LUAPULA PREMIER
    December 31, 2013 at 12:22 am |

    @ Kwewewe

    WHY ARE YOU BEING OVERSTRESSED OVER NON ISSUES? WHEN YOU SAY ‘WE’ OR WHEN YOU DEMAND THE PRINTING OF MORE THAN 10 COPIES, DO YOU MEAN 10MILLIONS COPIES? WHAT IS THE LIMIT? IF YOU ARE SMART, OR NEEDLESSLY SUSPICIOUS, WHY DON’T YOU INSIST ON SIMULTANEOUS DISTRIBUTION ON THE WEB AND PUBLIC MEDIA, AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PRESIDENT RECEIVES HIS COPY? I SUPPOSE THE PRESIDENT WOULD BE TOO COMFORTABLE WITH A SOFT COPY ON THE FLASH DISK!

    IN ANY CASE WHAT EVER THE MEANS OF DISTRIBUTION, WHAT CAN STOP HIM FROM SHIELDING ANY CHANGES FROM ANYONE?

    WHY ARE YOU JUST YAPPING OVER NON ISSUES LIKE OUR HH DOES? DO YOU HAVE THE TIME?

    AS FAR AS CONSTITUTION MAKING PROCESS GOES, THE STEPS THE SO-CALLED TC IS FOLLOWING ARE UNIVERSAL.

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      flag chikubabeniso says: chikubabeniso
      December 31, 2013 at 6:02 am |

      @luapula
      quote,if any thing what can stop sata from sheding any changes to it,that’s what many rightful thinking Zambians are afraid of Dictatorship.if leaders are our servants why should they not scum to the wishes of the majority.at no time did the govt said money is the reason for not printing more copies.pf ‘s u turn on this is because they have lost popularity,a clause of 50+1,has become a headache,reducing presidential powers,having a running mate.i hope their is a whistle blower.since u are pf agent let your boss know that we know his tricks.

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    flag china says: china
    December 31, 2013 at 12:24 am |

    I think only me and Sata deserve that copy no one-else, most of the people were suggesting crazy things on these draft, if Sata lets you people see it that might be
    detrimental come 2016, qualifications to become President will be complicated

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    flag Mzambia wa zamani says: Mzambia wa zamani
    December 31, 2013 at 12:39 am |

    We have an unsmiling,undemocratic and an untrustworthy ugly looking fella with no vision,no plan and no int’l friends kind of guy in plot one.The sooner we take back our country from this illeducated autocratic muppet the better for us & our kids.

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    flag LUAPULA PREMIER says: LUAPULA PREMIER
    December 31, 2013 at 1:07 am |

    @Chisenga

    “WE SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON ADVOCATING FOR A BETTER MODE OF ADOPTING THE DRAFT INSTEAD OF BICKERING ON THE MERITS AND DE-MERITS OF A SIMULTANEOUS RELEASE”. SIMPLE AND EASY.

    But let me add that however strong the new constitution will be, if our Civic Organizations are moribund, the Executive can still find a way to go around it.

    So, let us just be praying for and ENCOURAGING a robust NGO in Zambia because the opposition will always be weak, regionally based and fragmented. One can hardly tell the difference between MUZ and a political party nowdays!

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    flag chansa wibatiina bwingi says: chansa wibatiina bwingi
    December 31, 2013 at 1:09 am |

    There you are! Am not sure how many times I called for the Tech Comm not to dare govt on the number of copies as the argument was really stupid for lack of a better term.

    All those technocrats on the committee belittled themselves so much over the number of copies and mistakenly fell into the same trap with CSOs who are now agreeing with me that copies can be printed off the internet since the draft document is not embargoed.

    Today is 31st December and the Tech Committee mandate ends. The 10 copies will be handed over before 17hrs and all the hullabaloo will be history!

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    flag Snowden says: Snowden
    December 31, 2013 at 2:19 am |

    kuyi likingisha chabe pa internet exams pa zed leak you can do the same to the constitution

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    flag LUAPULA PREMIER says: LUAPULA PREMIER
    December 31, 2013 at 4:44 am |

    @Ndobo,
    @Wanzelu,
    @Australia engineer,
    @Nostradum

    Your inappropriate use of language against and about an individual however lowly he or she is in society, gives me the impression that you are infected, POSITIVE but please have it confirmed or it will be too late.

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    flag Chidoyo says: Chidoyo
    December 31, 2013 at 5:21 am |

    Ba president besu balifulwa.

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    flag chansa wibatiina bwingi says: chansa wibatiina bwingi
    December 31, 2013 at 5:48 am |

    …..And sorry, the final pay cheque for the members of the tech committee will only be delivered on 2 January 2014.

    Lessons Learnt:
    1.Don’t dare govt unnecessarily.
    2.Dont follow CSOs blindly
    3. It will be a long while before any member of this Technical Commiittee will be appointed to any govt commission in future.

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    flag Koswe says: Koswe
    December 31, 2013 at 6:43 am |

    The is simply unacceptable in this day & age!!WHAT THE TC SHOULD REALISE IS THAT THE EXERCISE WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE, Sata IS SIMPLY THE CEREMONIAL APPOINTING AUTHORITY! Zambian TAX PAYERS ARE WHOM THIS COMMITTEE IS ANSWERABLE TO!! If this Constitution is ever manipulated, THE TC WILL HAVE BEEN SEEN TO HAVE CONNIVED with PF & Sata!! The TC CANNOT BE THIS IRRESPONSIBLE!! They have to publish this document over the Internet, where at least the Prime copy will NOT be MANIPULATED!! WE ARE NOT LIVING IN THE STONEAGE & USING SMOKE SIGNALS TO COMMUNICATE!!!

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      flag Mumbi Mukasa says: Mumbi Mukasa
      December 31, 2013 at 7:14 am |

      YOU ARE VERY RIGHT KOSWE !

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    flag idah says: idah
    December 31, 2013 at 9:41 am |

    I would have been happy to give the government the ten drafts but also the Technical Committee could have kept the draft by online so that the PF would not change anything on it.
    It sound to me that there is a foul play which is going on, on this project.

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    flag Matako says: Matako
    December 31, 2013 at 9:43 am |

    What are they afraid of if as public we know what is there? Make sure you keep the originals as TECHNICAL COMMITEE. We will demand for it or the monies you have wasted this far. Please leave the Constitution alone. We want a people driven constitution and one tempered with irrespective of who they are. PEOPLE DRIVEN CONSTITUTION.

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    flag Chisenga says: Chisenga
    December 31, 2013 at 10:35 am |

    SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT IF THE DRAFT IS MADE PUBLIC, THEN IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME LAW. THAT IS WRONG.
    I THINK THE CURRENT DRAFT IS GOOD AND IT IS THE BEST FOR ZAMBIA. BUT THE WAY WE ARE GOING ABOUT IT IS WRONG. THE OPPOSITION IS PRE-OCCUPIED WITH FIXING THE PF USING THE 50%+1. THEY DONT SEEM TO HAVE ANY OTHER PLANS AFTERWARDS. THE PF IS ALSO PRE-OCCUPIED WITH STAYING IN POWER AT ALL COSTS. AND THEY ARE VERY SUSPICIOUS OF THE INTENTIONS OF THE OPPOSITION. THE BIGGER PICTURE SHOULD GO BEYOND HH OR SATA. AND I WISH WE CAN ALL BE SOBBER, PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR ZAMBIA. AT LEAST THIS ONCE. EVEN IF IT MEANS LOSING THE PRESIDENCY IN 2016, I WOULD URGE HEMCS TO GIVE THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA THIS CONSTITUTION. HIS NAME WILL GO IN THE ANNALS OF HISTORY AS A GREAT MAN.

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    flag KK says: KK
    January 1, 2014 at 4:30 am |

    The Committee has betrayed the Zambian people by not refusing to stand firm and not sign the damn thing. What’s the point of going forward with the handover, when you know the process ha already been compromised? Come on gentlemen, show some teeth. We are better off without a new constitution, than give legitimacy to this foolishness.

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    flag KK says: KK
    January 1, 2014 at 4:31 am |

    The Committee has betrayed the Zambian people by not refusing to stand firm and not sign the damn thing. What’s the point of going forward with the handover, when you know the process ha already been compromised? Come on gentlemen, show some teeth. We are better off without a new constitution, than give legitimacy to this ill conceived process.

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