Zambians asked to carry valid IDs at all times to avoid being mistaken for illegal immigrants

1. This is a good call I commend you. It……….

   • Is this even legal to require citizens to carry their IDs all the time. Is this even legal to conduct random searches on citizens asking them to prove if they are Zambians. What does the human rights groups have to say on this?

     Every zambian knows that carrying your reg or passport with you all the time can result in its loss and getting a replacement is a major hasle that even breeds grounds for corruption.

     I think this xenophobic exercise should be rejectd by all Zambians. There are other better ways to track illegals and not using this old NAZI tactics. We experienced them under KK and we don’t want to go back to that. MMD worked hard to get rid of these NAZI tactics. Every Citizen is innocent and shouldn’t be pressumed guilty and asked to prove otherwise.

   • I have personal experience on this. I have relatives who suffered at the hands of UNIP viligilantes and had to spend days in a filthy cells while we searched everywhere for their misplaced NRCs becuase they were suspected to be from Zaire, even when their accents clearly indicated that they were zambians.

     Whoever thought of this myopic solution needs to be fired. I maintain, there are other ways and better ways, and dignified ways of tracking illegals.

   • What of people like me who have Reg and cant speak any of the Zambian languages as I haven been there for close to 13 years now?

     Help us then

     Thanks

   • What is this xenophobia the government is promoting.Let the foreigners come.They are welcome.Stop being narrow minded not everyone is a crook.Countries like the USA have benefited by allowing foreigners in.Foreigners everywhere in the world are more hard working than locals and they will develope the country. Zambians are helping develope other countries ao let the foreigners come and help develop Zambia.These borders were drawn by the colonialists.They were not there before.

   • These PF awe mwee, I will not be surprised if they asked Chinese to be carrying Passports because they can be mistaken to be Zambians.

   • Zambians are complicated people,…this is a very logical move,we are forced to carry our ID’s out here….just put yo ka reg in yo wallet,as simple as that.

   • @ 1.3 Mushota, not long ago you told us that you had just come back from Zambia and was appalled by the poverty levels. Now you are telling us that you have not been there for 13 year? Wonders shall never end!

   • Mutale I have lived there for 13 years I visit though and I cant speak any of the Zambian languages an besides because of my accent people don’t even understand my Scottish accent. Is it my fault?

     Thanks

   • @chiefMMDbootlicker, please under MMD “stop and search” was almost as bad as in the UNIP govt, how many times did you have people being rounded up in Lusaka on suspicion of being illegal immigrants? So many times, its only under PF that we see things being done in a more orderly manner.

   • @Mushota, you are an id!ot

   • Welcome idea but it will be abused by police officers.

   • Fake IDs are everywhere, good luck catching the Nigerians!

2. Looks like we are going back to the KK days! no court just kick you out because you don’t have your NRC card with you.

   • There’s no requirement for anybody to carry a reg or ichitupa! This is ridiculous! We burnt the passbooks because we wanted freedom to move without being checked and hassled by police. This is unacceptable after 50 years that you want us to not be free. Immigration should become smarter. Every time we see foreigners entering Zambia and providing fake address. Some even just put Intercontinental Hotel without proof of a reservation. Jack up the systems instead of inconveniencing locals.

   • I think it’s normal to carry your ID everywhere, in case of anything. But they should work on making that ID able to fit in my wallet. Our NRC’s are ridiculously big

3. …but even foreigners can manufacture Zambian ID’s and carry them all the time! Isn’t there a better solution?

   • very true, just creating business for chaps in immigration to sell more NRC’S & Passports!!

4. Fyabupuba ifi. We are not in colonial days

   • @Mushota Bootlicker Saulosi

     This is your pure monkey North tactics of KK mushumfwa UNIP waikata wapya now embraced by your Bemba tribesmate in PF….. we the innocent are being done a donchi kubeba by deceiving PF congolese North! Zambians, vote them out!!

5. Well done Zambia……. in fact this is happening in Scandinavia. Permanent residence cards are being issued now instead of etiquette in the passport and holders are advised to carry them with them….. flushing out illegal immigrants all over the world……… lol.

   • But they aint robbing peoples furniture and chucking them behind bars or in stadiums like in your case just,I believe that even animals dont behave like that. I used to think stadiums were meant for soccer players. Zambia has become the 2nd new South Africa, Congratulations on your Xenophobic ways in dealing with human beings and welcome back to your colonial times too.

6. I, like most of the bloggers before me seem to be against this practise. It will just tend to breed xenophobic tendencies and stigmatise foreigners as being illegal immigrants and criminals, which is not the case. The majority of foreigners in Zambia, legally or illegally in the country are just hard-working individuals who are trying to earn a living. As others before me have mentioned there are more humane, dignified ways of identifying illegal immigrants than through random stop and search, sweeping raid and extra-judicial deportations. Zambia is better than this.

7. NAIKONDA IYI MWEH!
   Coz Plenty making noise here and on political forums are Kasai’s and Mwachusas

   • It is true some of these DRCs come into the country because they can speak bemba. Some bembas have even received plenty of money from them by giving them IDs.

   • Is Chellah a Zambian or Ghanaian or Arab Name?

8. People ignore things at your own peril. Doesn’t the influx of somali nationals with lots of money worry anyone?
   In a failed state where is the money coming from? You guessed it pirate money! This whole thing is intricably linked to terrorism! We need to support some efforts ati there are better ways of doing it name just four! With your porous border and corrupted officials!
   Wait till they start bombing your local nzethemba or whatever

9. i know West Africans who bought Zambian NRC and PASSPORTS for 100 US dollars a piece.. Zambian ID’s are very cheap and easy to get for any foreigner with a little bit of change

10. Nigerians, Congolose, Senegalese, Malians and racist imperialist Boers and Rhodies must all be sent back to their places of origin. Rwandese, Burundise, Angolans, Zimbabweans, Tanzanians, Somalians must be allowed to remain as their presence has been proven to be to the benefit of Zambians, they create straight businesses that employ many Zambians and mostly are not involved in shady businesses.

    • Those countries are the people especially Rawndese behind the ritual killings in Zambia.

    • Ritual killings sadly occur across Africa, especially in the land of TB Joshua – that witchdoctor from nigeria. So you telling me those ritual killings that were taking place in the 90s in Southern Province were being committed by Rwandans??? And that Mweemba character that was found with a human heart which he was selling along Katondo st in the late 90s was a Mweemba from where Angola??? Please…

11. This is not new. It happens here in South Africa. Illegal kwerekweres are not entertained. Thumbs up to GRZ. Good cause for the national.

12. This sounds like ‘shutting the gate after the horse has bolted’.
    The question is, how do the unwanted foreigners make their entry into the country?
    Are their documents screened to establish exactly who they are and the reasons for coming. Could it be that they are illegally sneaked in with the help of some corrupt immigration officers?
    I think all these things must be looked into seriously before embarking on futile exercises that will inconvenience citizens. This is a waste of time and will die a natural death and be forgotten.

13. Let us support the GRZ for this move, it is important for every citizen to carry the ID not only for the reason of being mistaken for illegal immigrants but for personal identification in case of accident or sadden death like heart attack.

14. Zambians
    lets work together, in the north west too much bakasai, some of them
    are even own plots.

15. Zambians lets not expose our ignorance ! Its only in Zambia where one can just move with no form of identity apart from a pair or small dangling ba**lls. Go to South Africa or the USA uzanya oilo !

16. People against this move have probably not been to places like urungu, in ndola ndeke total filling station or farah s garage.zambians are outnumbered there during lunch time and most of these foreigners are doing jobs that could be done by locals,don’t we have drivers that can transport fuel from ndola to different parts the country?

    • What shady business is there in urungu and farah?mayb u should go to farah and ask how many zambians are employed caz u will be suprised.they provide free cleen water and and sponser a lot of zambian children to the best universitys in africa.as far as urungu those poor somali women came here as refugees to zambia so u can help them.infact all they get from there is barely enough to cover their needs.mayb u should put urself in their shoes.

17. Zambian its for your own protection, Congolese, Somalians, Nigerians, are the ones involved in dubious deals, and making our country dirty. Ba kaboke , they will steal whatever, they lay their hands on, that’s why we have a problem in Chibolya. Just cooperate guys, if you are indeed Zambian, you have no problem.

18. The amount of clean up and breaking into the houses with out there concern and the zambian police force call then selfs police while they stole such a large amount of money
    How do we condem such manners ?
    I mean this is insane first the zambian government should educate there officer’s then later conduct fair searches

19. Those opposing this have not travelled anywhere. The NRC system was a brilliant idea, thanks to the previous governments. What need now is the way forward. We need NRC revised so it is made smaller to fit in the wallet, then we need a clean up system to re-issue the revised ones based on birth certs and passports to people who are rightfully Zambians by birth or by naturalization. Then also introduce cards for foreigners that tell who they are, their nationality and validity of their visa. Let there be finger prints on all these IDs. The idea of people moving around with passports is SO ANCIENT and not great in this age of identity theft. Now all these documents should cost people receiving them affordable amounts to fund the project so you don’t need foreign AID to do this. Thanks.

20. WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONGTIME, THIS COUNTRY HAS BECOME A PLAY GROUND BY THESE FOREIGNERS. THEY TREAT US BADLY WHEN WE GO TO THEIR COUNTRIES SO WHY CANT WE DO THE SAME???…….VIVA SUWALI….VIVA !!!!!

21. can some *****s in zambia first read their laws to understand the powers of a police officer before commenting, can some of these fools visit foreign countries to know how we are treated as zambians in diaspora, then and only then will they appreciate their police

22. can some idiyotes in zambia first read their laws to understand the powers of a police officer before commenting, can some of these fulls visit foreign countries to know how we are treated as zambians in diaspora, then and only then will they appreciate their police. seems some words are being sensored

23. ” Some of them were found with drugs, large sums of money and IT equipment suspected to be used for p****materials. ”

    These aren’t even real crimes to begin with. In fact, they aren’t crimes against a person or property.

    And for this, people are supposed to give up their right to privacy, walk in a public street without having to explain your presence in a public space to a police officer?

    This is a blatant attack on civil and human rights.

24. The same thing happens in many countries I know it happens in South Africa to Japan… There is nothing wrong with having the correct documents people staying illegally don’t pay for taxes or contribute to the countries coffers but if we do this we must also check the Nigerians, Chinese and Indians…. Not just the compunds or somailis or Congolese

25. Failing to develop Zambia and blame it on the foreigners. Balekeni bekale

26. Good effort , it’s not xenophobia, we must all cooperate with requirement to carry IDs with us at all times to help govt kick out not all immigrants, but illegal ones . It’s a safety measure for both Zambians and legal immigrant in the country . Please immigration , police , DEC and the public let’s work together , illegal immigrants can be very dangerous to both the economy by carrying out money laundering of all forms as they do in South Africa for example, and to innocent people’s safety and security because they are desperate for quick money.

    • Backward measure, dont forget that we have zambians living in other countries, and by the way if somebody loses his documents, what happens is the system fast enough to issue new ones,mind you even those who dont have will simply report their documents lost.

27. Because of your weakness at entering points (borders/airports), you want to inconvinence us. Clean your imigration department first. Give us a break! Zambians be ready for more check points nd road blocks in the of screaning! I hate movng wth documents! A slave in my own country after 50yrs…shame on you.

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