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Exercise restraint, FTJ told

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GOVERNMENT has asked former president, Fredrick Chiluba, to exercise maximum restraint when commenting on issues such as the MMD’s loss in the Nchanga parliamentary by-election.

Chief Government spokesperson, Mike Mulongoti, who is also MMD chairman for elections, said yesterday that Dr Chiluba should speak sparingly because the people of Nchanga were reacting to some of the bad policies the former head of state left.

“Dr Chiluba was head of the MMD.

He should therefore speak sparingly. Some of the policies that are still being followed were left by him.

The people of Nchanga are reacting to old issues like the effects of the sale of mines under Dr Chiluba,” he said.

Mr Mulongoti, who is Minister of Information and Broadcasting Services, said Dr Chiluba should realise that he was among the people who were appearing in court for allegedly being involved in theft of public funds.

The minister challenged the former president to ask himself why he was appearing in court before he comments on anything.

“We would like to accord him respect as former president.

But if he wants to celebrate over our loss, he is declaring war on us and adding salt to a wound,” Mr Mulongoti said.

He said the reactions of the people of Nchanga were not new because they were based on old issues, which included the sale of mines under Dr Chiluba’s reign.

Mr Mulongoti said the MMD would continue to examine what could have led to its loss in the parliamentary by-election.

And MMD national chairman, Michael Mabenga, said in an interview from Mongu yesterday that it was unfortunate that Dr Chiluba had turned against the ruling party that he helped found and was now celebrating its electoral loss.

“It is very unfortunate that the former president should now turn against the party he helped to form and cheer at its loss in the Nchanga parliamentary by-election.

It is very unfortunate,” Mr Mabenga said.

Mr Mabenga said the ruling party had always been promoting democracy and would ensure that it established the truth about the alleged malpractices during the Nchanga by-election.

He said the party leadership was waiting for a detailed report from the team that spearheaded the campaigns on alleged vote-buying during the
by-election.

Last Sunday, Dr Chiluba held a press briefing at Lusaka International Airport shortly before leaving for South Africa for routine medical review.

The former president congratulated the MMD for being good losers in the Nchanga by-election.

He also congratulated the Patriotic Front for retaining the parliamentary seat that fell vacant after the opposition party’s member of Parliament, Charles Chimumbwa, resigned to join the MMD.

Dr Chiluba said the MMD should learn a lesson from their loss in Nchanga so that they could do better in future elections.

He said the beauty of democracy was that no one could force the people to support a particular candidate or political party.

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197 COMMENTS

  1. Mulongoti I dont think this is a good excuse to justify MMD’s loss in the Nchanga constituency. Chiluba left power over 6 years ago. Just give another excuse, otherwise just work hard and convince the people through good service delivery. Dont give lame excuses.

  2. Ba Mulongoti stay away from commenting on FTJ’s outbursts.He is a citizen and has every right to say what he feels.Comrade Mabenga, FTJ did not help create MMD….MMD created him !!

  3. Mulongoti must be fired by LPM for insinuating that the Govt still pursues bad policies when administering the affairs of the country. Its rather an admission that the MMD and its govt have inept policies and that is the reason why they are falling to adress peoples aspirations. Mulongoti must go for embarrassing LPM and his govt.

  4. Chluba should also now learn in silence.I for one is fed up with him.Its not that when he supports the party we advocate,then becomes an angel.Chiluba,you are the person who has made us fail in most of endvours.You brought exam leakges through your corrupt practices.From then our education standard has detoriated drastically.How many times did UNZA close up the time of your reign?We are not happy with Chuchu and MMD because they are failing to lock you up.So beware.Silence is golden.

  5. Ba Muntuza, i second your contribution.What an embarrassing statement from a minister.It is quite obvious bwana Mulongoti has alot to learn about being a minister of political gymnastics…he should track down VJ and get some tips about political spin! He better do it soon before he finds himself either at Environment or on the street again…Dr Chuchu has a short fuse these days !!

  6. Kapufi should just concentrate on his Morningside Clinic visits so that his heart improves. Wanyanya you are right these Bus conductor has brought in misery. Even exams are rigged today. Hospitals have no medicines and medical staffs because of Kafupis polices which are still in motion. Iwe 3 you are you should that if you engage in a contract you just come out the next day. Look you gave Railways to foreigners for the next 25 years. What do expeact?

  7. Mulongoti are sure the govt is still pursuing the same bad policies chiluba left? No wonder you,and most of your cronies are still milking the govt. Now I see why you just lost nchanga by-elections.

  8. Easy #6 FTJ goes to Garden City Clinic not morning side, get your facts right. On giving Railways to foreigners if LPM is serious he can get it back just like KK did , it is ours .That is why Sata is critical in our economical space. We need Sata wether you like it or not

  9. Ba Mulongoti. You are now in the driving sit. Don’t start to look for excuses from a man who left 6 years ago. Focus on delivering.
    Ba FTJ be quiet.You had a chance to entrench democracy but you blew it because of greed/lack of wisdom. If it was’nt for your ill concieved 3rd term bid & subsequent waking up of Dr Chuchu from sleep; maybe we should have been talking serious development issues instead we are still grappling to get our national politics on the right truck. People cant eat politics.

  10. Mulongoti you are pathetic. LPM has been in power for 6 years so that excuse is lame.And for FTJ you are a sore sight keep out of politics you had your chance. We can forgive you but we wont forget

  11. MMD is a bunch of sorry a**s***s. How can they continue with bad policies FTJ left.No wonder they are losing elections.Just like # 8 said if a mistake was made in the past it can be rectified. Hugo Cavez has done it.If MMD strongly feels the sale of mines is hurting the local pipo they should rectify the problem.FTJ is a bastard how can you be a founding father of an ideal then walk away from it. It shows lack of principles and morals, best be quiet

  12. People like ‘Red liped’ Mulongoti can argue that charcoal is actually white if he knows he is going to be paid for it.not surprised too that he is blaming kafupi for the loss in Nchanga.back to drawing board mudala.

  13. People like ‘Red liped’ Mulongoti can argue that charcoal is actually white if he knows he is going to be paid for it.not surprised too that he is blaming kafupi for the loss in Nchanga.back to drawing board bawishi.

  14. Is it not the same Movement for Madarax Dealers(Teta) who told Chiluba that They dont need him.Anyway it is a bitter pill to swallow lossing an election.Mupo is like a paperweight mad boxer who wants even to box outside the ring.Chuchu sold Zanaco saying we are jst finishing what Chiluba started.The movement for mad dogs is starting showing the cracks and jst wait for time to choose who will takeover from Chuchu. MMD will be yesterday.They dont have crop of seasoned politicians like Hon Sata

  15. Mwebantu wasnt Mulongoti in Chilubas Goverment? What has happened to collective responsibilty? Why is he so quick to lambast FTJ, when infact he was also part of the system. Wether we like it or not and as bitter as it may be to take, FTJ is a boni fide citizen of Zambia and hes got every right to comment on national issues, infact its not every day that you hear from him. Dont allow yourselves to be brainwashed by the post into hating a fellow human being that much that you can even

  16. Its a pity to have leaders who seem not to understand politics.no wonder the economy is not improving as the people of zambia are expecting it.i don’t see why ftj can not make a comment,because he is not MMD any more.lets be honesty MMD just lost the by-elections thats all and if they can not accept it then its their problem.

    this gvnt has proved to be a falure already.6 years in power there still saying chiluba.one would ask, why are there ruling?is not the same pipo who say mines are ok?

  17. Be man n stand up tall MMD! Tell the truth!Assume responsibility for your own thoughts and actions.There is no point in layin’ blame, and it isn’t going to make anything better. The current govt must set a direction for themselves n in the best interest of the nation.As men, we r not defined by how we have been affect by someone else’s actions,instead, we r defined by how we make the best of ourselves. Separatin’ boys from men. FTJ ani’t runnin’ the show no more!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. While California Congressman Duncan L. Hunter, the ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, is navigating the campaign trail in his long-shot bid for the White House, his son, Marine Capt. Duncan D. Hunter, is running to replace him in Congress with help from his dad’s Beltway buddies. The younger Hunter, or Junior, as he is called by some friends and family, is waging this political struggle while serving his country 8,000 miles away in Afghanistan (he has also served in Iraq).

  19. The younger Hunter’s Web site boasts that nearly 70 current House members have already endorsed his candidacy and that his campaign received more than $15,000 from current members and their political action committees during the third quarter of this year. One contributor: former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who now works as a business consultant in Maryland. According to campaign disclosure forms, on Sept. 30 Rumsfeld gave the maximum $2,300 contribution to Hunter, whose father was one of

  20. According to campaign disclosure forms, on Sept. 30 Rumsfeld gave the maximum $2,300 contribution to Hunter, whose father was one of the few pols to publicly lament Rumsfeld’s resignation last year.Hunter’s conservative platform—strong defense, border protection, low taxes—mimics the positions his father has stood for as a member of the House for the past 27 years. (The elder Hunter decided not to run for re-election when he mounted his presidential bid.)

  21. The younger Hunter was a recent college graduate on a business track when America was attacked on Sept. 11, 2001. He joined the Marines a day later and has since developed political ambitions, says David Gilliard, a veteran California political consultant who is managing Hunter’s campaign.

  22. Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage said Sunday he was foolish to have revealed Valerie Plame’s CIA identity.Armitage’s acknowledgment came in response to comments by Plame, who said the former Bush administration official had no right to talk to a reporter about where she worked.

  23. A year ago, Armitage publicly apologized to Plame and her husband. The former No. 2 State Department official remains the only principal in the leak to have done so.

  24. Be man n stand up tall MMD! Tell the truth!Assume responsibility for your own thoughts and actions.There is no point in layin’ blame, and it isn’t going to make anything better. The current govt must set a direction for themselves n in the best interest of the nation.As men, we r not defined by how we have been affect by someone else’s actions,instead, we r defined by how we make the best of ourselves. Separatin’ boys from men. FTJ ani’t runnin’ the show no more!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. When Lucifer (the devil) disputed over the body of Moses, Michael the archangel, knowing authority (the devil then was a fallen foe) never insulted the big demon! All he said was, “The Lord rebuke you!” (Jude 9; 2 Peter 2v11). Leaders who can speak ill of the people that once appointed them and used to “worship” them when they had power and at no time did they disputed their policies then and now can do that should not be trusted. To me it shows how FTJ did not know well his cronies.

  26. ctd. If I were, LPM, this would be an indication that Mulongoti, circumstances changing would do the same to me. Please leaders read even the Word!

  27. chiluba you better keep quiet cos you are raising our tempers, is it not you who brought muwelewele and impose him on us when you and VJ rigged those elections in 2001? cos from the word go muwelewele has never been zambians choice. And for you Mulongoti you have just comfirmed that this govt is corrupt just like chilubas cos you are still carrying forward his policies thats why we can’t move forward with Movement for Mad Dogs hence need to kick them out zedians you see.MMD stinks corruption

  28. CK (31),
    I respect your mythology. Per your (Jude 9; 2 Peter 2v11) What do you say of your President Sata who started calling on Chiluba to give him a wheelbarrow to carry Kaunda he called ishilu only after defecting to MMD at the 11th hour in 1991? In UNIP he crafted Kumulu nilesa panshi Kaunda until he realised he was no choice for anointment from KK for UNIP.

  29. After capturing 19 percent of the popular vote in the 1992 presidential election, H. Ross Perot formed the Reform Party. Still active today, Reformists seek to limit the power of special interest groups and return political power back to the people. In 1996, Perot again ran for president, but lost. In 1998, by winning the Minnesota gubernatorial race, Jesse Ventura became the first Reform candidate to win an election.

  30. Zambia has so many crap leaders, starting with Kafupi, Nevers, Micheal, Christorph, Kaka, Mabenga, Daniel, Mushosa, Fandelay, Garry, Mulongoti,Vinoni M, Gladys, the list is long. We have to do away these pipo if the country has to progress.

  31. #35 Patriot/Fact
    Isn`t LPM carrying on such a legacy of being hero worshipped?Mulyata,Mpombo,Mulongoti seem to be competing for top honours in the hope of trying to dethrone you as the chief bootlicker and hero worshipper.

  32. ala ba Patriot only a certain type of person can be taken in by Cobra and his populist gimmicks.Any political observer who is mature enough to recollect his history would realise that their faith,admiration and worship are wasted.Look at the calibre of his supporters on this blog,the language they use,the depth of analysis and their skewed vision of the political destiny of our beloved country.I personally enjoy Cobra’s rantings as all political arenas must have a jester to entertain !!

  33. Zambia desperately needs a new and credible opposition political party to square MMD at the National level elections. Not any of these rambling good-for-nothing entrainment camps headed by hilarious comedians. Otherwise, the MMD will keep crashing them at National General Elections.

  34. #38 SOCRATES
    Instead of Mulongoti informing the nation the wherabouts of LPM and his current state of health,he starts issuing irrelevant political statements.I really fail to understand the thinkimg capacity of these DEMAGOGUES,NEOCONS and MINIONS.

  35. The most pressing issues facing the nation are beyond the ability of the current barren parties ecstatic with obvious simple seat retention in a highly apathy prone race. Forecasting the future on the basis of 8000 votes in a constitution of 23000 registered voters confirms multiple deficiencies in our visionless so called parties.

  36. Ba Chapi(46), LPM is thinking and working on how to mitigate the inflation target miss that has been projected.It has far reaching implications and could provide the opposition with a platform to increase their popularity!!On the other hand he may be just taking a break…..he is also human !! Either way he has a task ahead of him to maintain the developmental momentum achieved so far.Many errors need rectification in the next budget!!

  37. FTJ is a citizen and has every right to comment on politics just like all of us have been doing even on this forum. Who the hell is mulongoti to shut Kafupi up! The chap was just ‘yesterday’ an FTJ bootlicker like someones has already stated and today he is insulting him. He will do the same to LPM after joining Sata or HH. When FTJ’s policies bear fruit ‘new deal’ is quick to claim credit, where they fail, ‘new deal is quick to distance themselves from those policies. Can’t take responsibility!

  38. FTJ is a citizen and has every right to comment on politics just like all of us have been doing even on this forum. Who the hell is mulongoti to shut Kafupi up! The chap was just ‘yesterday’ an FTJ bootlicker like someones has already stated and today he is insulting him. He will do the same to LPM after joining Sata or HH. When FTJ’s policies bear fruit ‘new deal’ is quick to claim credit, where they fail, ‘new deal is quick to distance themselves from those policies. Can’t take responsibility!

  39. people who can`t see nothing wrong wit ftj and sata`s conducts are hundred times sick than the two,find the centre of your balnace of thinking and get out of denial and call a spade a spade, simlpe! sata is eyeing plot one should be scrutinsed to zero, leave no dtone unturned, life is so short to make the same mistake twice, sata lied period, stop calling the post names , thats what they do and the do it best, we need post now more than ever, tell us which party president they have spared ,

  40. Sage,
    The problems in these entertainment camps as you put it are indeed deep and defeating every hope. Their acts only birth a one party system I regret time is consolidating. Who worth his senses would endorse a clustered party of shallow insulting desperados evidently challenged on all rational fronts?

  41. continue-sata is no angel or god to go free just because you one sided party cadres think so, grow up, sata balance his senses talk less and listen more

  42. These are issues and problems we are talking about here; they are both cultural and structural problems dealigning a lot of these camps. Yet they are fundamental problems that we are not even seriously debating, let alone solving! Fundamental Structural problems that can only be solved by a intellect and self moderation and
    reflective behavior.

  43. I knew Zambians need a caterlist. Here is one they have forgotten about the chinese and the thief of copper. No ideas of how improve houses, environment, climate change effects, employment, health all they know is talk about individuals just wait when ba Joze joins then debate will be live. Intelligent pipo talk about ideas, normal pipo talk about others and *****s talk about foolish things.

  44. 51/53 ..If Mulongoti saw that there was something wrong with FTJ why did he continue bootilicking him. No one is saying FTJ and Sata are perfect, but likewise can mention even a sigle person in the deal or indeed in PF, UPND, FDD UNIP etc who has nothing wrong with them?? Mr/s anonymous be serious in your analysis. At the end of the day the decision belongs to the pipo. If the chose new deal life continous, if they chose PF or UPND still life continuous. Dont fear Mr/s.

  45. It is a shame to hear from one of the so called top minister in LPM chuchu GOVT that they still using Kafuti bad policies he left,shame on you MMD who needs you anyways old school politicians with no brains to create wealth for our country,all you want is land near ZNBC mass media and build your so called mansions one all you will be watching from the fence and wish you can be party of the people with love for Zambia and it’s majority unemployed youth turning things around God bless motherland.

  46. My belief is that change brings dynamism. Thus, the thought of reverting to the era of careerists’ politics after LPM retires at 61 is an abomination impractical to consider by a progressive society.

  47. Sata represents the evil side of a none truncated 37 years rule of impunity through endorsements, alienation, plunder, economic sabotage and hooliganism all factors to the current national pain. His legacy is irredeemable not even at 76 he will be pushing for a chance to accelerate the mess on behalf of Chiluba.

  48. FACT 60.. You should stand against Sata and others in 2011 so you can beat him hands down. Problem is that you pipo think talking and taliking without action (arguably like Sata) will help matters. He will continue winning if you dont offer yourself. As things are now he is the current political magnet in this country only second to Levy (of cause popular after fert distribution in villages – by the way he has cut the fert qty by half this time around so danger)who is retiring. This is a fact.

  49. At no circumstance can FTJ align himself with the MMD he helped form. The MMD now is different. It has little or no room for thugs though there is still a small fraction of thugs left. The only party the little thug can align himself is PF. There he fits very well.

  50. LPM is retiring at 61 to spend his last days God willing with his family and contributing to other societal needs .Stunningly Sata a Geriatric of failed years is still dreaming power at 76 in a nation where the young and educated Zambians are aplenty. Isn’t that hilarious? World over there is a Generational shift at leadership level. LPM will be setting us a sound precedence at 61 fostering a forward looking perspective on dynamic leadership and politics.

  51. Ladies and gentmen, what a shame to hear that one of the top ministers has given us the vision of the so called new dealers govt.This govt is toothless, lacks vision,aspirations and not fit to come up with policies that can change living standards of ordinary zambians.Six years still blaming a man who has no power to run the show. Poor mupo, poor chuchu. No wonder they have even failed to increase the mineral taxes and royalties.One can ask who is benefiting the from mineral boom? chuch resign

  52. You will never teach these intellectual juveniles anything. LPM abused UNZA land, ZESCO resources to teka farm, etc. Katele, Mabenga, Chimumbwa, are all hiding in mmd. There’s no space here to list them all. Name one person in PF top hierarchy facing criminal charges in courts. All you need is commonsense.

  53. That said, i endorse Pragmatist’s counsel to the ruined kids Sata has wastefully stationed here at zero value instead of empowering them out of the Tawainese operational funds he signs for. Pragmatist says “My advice is that thuggish Political godfatherism and patronage cannot be a means of livelihood and must be discouraged at all levels of PF”.

  54. Seems fact is in the us and knows George W is heading out at 61 and there are others over 70 waiting in the wings to replace him. Sata is in far superior physical health than LPM. What logic is that? Commonsense is all you need.

  55. Contd: you have failed us and your ministers are aware
    of this. A bad carpenter blames his stools so as this aimless and crued govt has to blame Chiluba.If the policies of chiluba were bad, It is were brainy pipo the new govt use their understanding innovation of the problem and fixed it.Movement for madarax dealers is finished and brainless.They like yaping like a mad dogs.Do they have speech advisors? Dr Chuchu ones back
    sick leave.no news about him? Wish him well to come and make us laugh.

  56. Contd: you have failed us and your ministers are aware
    of this. A bad carpenter blames his stools so as this aimless and crued govt has to blame Chiluba.If the policies of chiluba were bad, It is were brainy pipo the new govt use their understanding innovation of the problem and fixed it.Movement for madarax dealers is finished and brainless.They like yaping like mad dogs.Do they have speech advisors? Dr Chuchu ones back/sick leave.no news about him? Wish him well to come and make us laugh.

  57. Machunga (MCC) moved the withdrew from the national treasury ZK 2billion Kwacha and stuffed it in a trunk to Sata who moved it on a chopper to Mulungushi RA for distribution to the kadoli thugs for the third term debacle.

    Guy(VP) Scot as agriculture minister stole thousands of Public pigs during the swine fear battle when livestock restocking was a project. Chiluba fired him. He prostituted in Lima party, the Caucus and now PF in hope of picking up from where he left from.

  58. Those are halucinations. check your data who was at the centre of the 2 billion saga and who has been prosecuted for it. Why is scott not in court or jail? Your national chairman mabenga is a convicted criminal in the supreme court. No one beats that record. LPM caried huge envelopes of stolen public cash and Maureen used Mumba to steal drugs, for campaigns. If you think corruption has ended or evcen reduced, come and see whats going on in lusaka.

  59. Facts stop yaping this govt is brainess and toothless to be called the new deal govt coz it lacks visions and innovations.I agree with pafwenamwine pa ujeni.

  60. # 65

    Captain Mphengula Selemani(MCC) PF security, as an accounts clerk was fired from ZAF for stealing money to finance a coup against Chiluba. You want me go on to show you that i know to the finger the flaws of all your leaders?

  61. Danny,
    What data should i check on the ZK 2 billion when the BOZ central clearing house has records of who withdrew the money while parliament the apology of both Machungwa and late Mandandi. So what data am i missing that you have?

    On the UNZA land, i challenge you even last time to come with deeds and titles of the plot from the lands Commissioner and Registra. I challenge you to go and demolish the property on that land if you establish that there is any on that land.

  62. #44 Fake Pundit,#51 Anonymous,#56 PragMafist,#60 Fact and #62 Spinka you have heard mention any person in PF of high hierarchy facing criminal charges, you have also heard how dr chikanda grabbed land from UNZA and abused ZESCO resources at teka farms.Can you pliz comment!!!!!

  63. Danny(whatever your mutation),

    I challenged you to visit the then Lands Commissioner Mr M.C Zulu a prominent Lusaka lawyer residing right behind Sata’s Rhodespark house, former Registra of Deeds and Titles at lands a Mr Khan in London and the surveyor General a Mr Moyo on Nangwenya road in Rhodespark. Interview them and establish if LPM was assigned the land he merely applied for.

  64. Am no law enforcement official so stop asking me to demolish illegally acquired property, of which there’s plenty, including our high commissioner to china’s. We started asking LPM to return the unza land he had grabbed years ago. Am surprised anyone could plead not guilty at this hour.
    Who withdrew the K2 billion? How could an accountant finance a coup plot. Doesnt make any sense to me. If you estimated total stolen public funds and tabulate it by political affliation, over 50% is STILL in MMD

  65. #75 Factless hands off Hon Machungwa if he’s guilty of what you are saying he could be behind bars by now so have your facts correct.As regards to UNZA land you don’t know anything ask muwelewele himself about that land he will tell you, who doesn’t know? or just ask your gay friend Fred Mmembe he will tell you about that land.Come 2011 he will give back the land

  66. Danny,

    If anything you don’t even know where the same land is. If few know about it not even the UNZA Dons. That land is a baren i could assign you someone to inspect. LPM has two mansions in Lusaka he built way before he joined politics while serving as an attorney. Besides the farms, in Ndola H.E has three mansions with the biggest in Kansenshi and Itawa all built before entering power politics. So which property does he own on UNZA land?

  67. #35 Patriot. Sata is no exception. Leadership principles never change for Sata or for Mulongoti. I have great respect for Godfrey Miyanda although fate has him in difficulty times. My general comment on leadership values are the same whether for Chiluba, LPM, Sata or any. If you could not correct or raise a voice against your appointee when all was well and you call him all names when he is not in a position to hit back reveals more about you as a person.

  68. Dont fuss we’re all anonymous. I have no business talking to lawyers who make a living defending anything. Fact is, UNZA owned that land. How could anyone apply for or be allocated land already belonging to someone else. Are you saying UNZA didnt own that land? I can take you on from this premise.

  69. #76 Mushindike
    Don’t you know that all these criminals in MMD facing charges will sooner or later move to your thug party. You already got FTJ and Xavier Chungu. That’s where thugs migrate. Chimumbwa was stealing while in PF.

  70. You are kidding. I spent 15 years in UNZA until 1992 and i know this issue. We dont deny LPM made some money from Issa Galedou and others (resigned as solicitor gen when he smelt galedou’s deportation). Why did have to divert zesco resources if he’s that well off.

  71. #76 Spinka Chimumbwa was stealing while in PF and then you adopt him on your ticket does that make sence to you? but tawakwata amano iwe bushe ulatontonkanya if so then your brain is small like that of a fly

  72. Danny you are right man.Sata ‘s land on mass media was taken by Chuchu.Fact jst like arguing for sake of arguement.150 vihicles mmd is still using them,Mabenga, Katele in MMD.Corrupt minds cant fight corruption.Chitoba was Commanding officer for central division and was involved in corruption before his appointment to DEC, so what do you expect? Land has been given to chu family.Fact stop defending the corrupt pipo Chuchu maybe a honest person but once one finger is oiled the all fingers r oiled

  73. #80,
    You see what protruding ignorance can do in a public domain. That confirms your distance from national events. Machungwa and Mandandi publicly apologised in parliament. Bob Sichinga then Kafue MP head of parliamentary appropriation accounts committee was the sparkplug and moved the motion which almost saw them expelled from the house. Get out of here and dig your head in the manda hill registry for debates and disciplinary cases.

  74. #90 Factless, criminals are convicted like Mabenga, has Machungwa been convicted? why do you like arguing minus reasoning?

  75. Was that motion a matter of legalitiy or parlimentary code of conduct (procedural). I cant see how they could get away with an apology to the house if these two individuals indeed committed a criminal offence. Parliment is not a court.

  76. BREAKING NEWS

    Dr Chuchu’s left body side has been pierced with 20000 niddles by chocholis (Chinese) after an attack of what was classified as minor stroke.His face has been twisted and saliva is just dripping at will.Dr Mpombo has been on the bed side ever since the attack and vowed not to leave Dr Chuchu alone.

    Gentlemen and ladies, who will be the caretaker? Or what next?

  77. Danny (83),
    That is why i have challenged you to see those these legal custodians of the National land policy then.Also acquaint yourself with the land act of 1979, 1985 and 1998.UNZA has had that land for many years without a single development on it. Audits are done and warnings sent. Inaction is subject to forfeiture to the state for flotation on the market. Applicants could be assigned unless timely redeemed by original owner. LPM applied but turned it down when told of UNZA ownership.

  78. I think it’s not right to call people not convicted as criminals. let them have their day in Court, then we can slap them with those labels. I think SATA & PF are a bunch of clean guys and he has repeatedly dared LPM to lock him up if he was dirty. And the hatred the MMD have for SATA, I bet they would lock him up in no time if they had an opportunity. Again it could be that he gets away with it because he has classified incriminating information on LPM..who knows. Politics pa zed is complex

  79. You cant fool no one friend. After you acknowledge UNZA owned that land you then suggest they deserved to lose it to LPM because it was idle. Fact is, LPM and his cronies stole land. UNZA is not going to develop all its land resources before a theiving politician sees it. Its ridiculous to think that public institutions should forfeit land they cant immediately develop. Is that what you see where you live or work?

  80. Mwaiche Joze (93),

    I remind you that are not on the moon where it takes a shuttle. Your lampooning, defamation, insults and such wishes could prove a toll on you than you seem not to imagine. The accident H.E had does not make you or any of us an exceptions irrespective of your haven be it on the moon. Your wishes could be squarely a reversal in your camp unless you have become immortal and relocated to the moon for life.Sorry i had to remind you though i don’t take that route of debates.

  81. #96 Sounds like hiring a hungry dog to guard a pot of chicken. Of course it will eat it. If the premise put forward by #94 FACT is true, what will stop politicians from withholding money for development from UNZA so that they can grab it’s land on grounds of inactivity? I think we need to let common sense prevail sometimes. UNZA land is UNZA land period. And UNZA gets funding from the Govt of the day. They can’t charge economic rates because that would be sabotaging policies MMD.

  82. Danny,
    You seem too clueless on every front. I don’t any reason of wasting my time on you beyond this. Your wishful thoughts are within democratic rights of speech. In where in the world where land is a Rubie, Government reposes undeveloped land every year except that which belongs to security institutions. It is jurisdiction of the ands commissioner to determine the future of any abandoned piece. Fortunately all the lands custodians then are alive and within reach. ask them why they reposed it.

  83. Incase you have never lost any piece of land, i will confess that i had two plots in avondale one of which i lost in a repossession for non development whilst i overstayed in the Diaspora on studies. I just finished developing the spared one for fear of losing it.Land could be reposed and re advertised on the market.Hope you don’t lose yours.Kavindele had to sell some of his 10 years old unfinished buildings to Mathani for fear of repossession by the lands department

  84. I’m a defender of the mmd economic policies (Penza and Magande would be my favourite) but there are many other things i dont agree with in mmd. I also dont honestly think Sata would make a better president than LPM. Maybe sata was great at local govt but his MOH tenure was disastrous. However Sata is not my yardstick. So like many people feel, any govt in power can be bettered. This is why we criticise them. But some people are so desparete they cant hear any criticism of their govt. Boring.

  85. #97 Iwe Facless
    Not a single day have I insulted innocent pipo on this blog.I only say the truth which you have known me for and feeding pipo with lastest info.I’m surprised that your head is still spinning and dwelling in Nchanga bye election. Man, let it go and accept the outcome.Iwe ka Fact, are you from Darfur to wish a real patriotic Zedian those infirmities by stating the truth?Anyway truth hurts and I wish you rush to plot 1 to justify my genuineness.

  86. So Patrioit thinks that if as Chanda Phiri says the govt starved UNZA of resources to develop in the first place, the same govt can repossess the land. I just cant imagine anyone with grade 9 education thinking this way. Your reference to an individual situation is totally out of line. Whats the logic of reposessession in general? And how does it apply to this case here

  87. #102 Socrates
    Getting worse. I saw Mpombo today, he has not shaven for almost two weeks and he looks like a rebel from Darfur.

  88. Danny(104),
    Thank you sir for advising me to go back to school. Unfortunately, i don’t know what next i should go there for considering that i have no drive or desire to do a Doctoral program. Maybe take another line of discipline what do you think? That is money worth investing in my children’s educational account or some interest on the money market.And you, any plans to improve on your challenges vividly exhibited here?

    Yours FACT

  89. Disappointed (61),
    Thanks for you proposition. Unfortunately I’m a seasoned technocrat through consecutive regimes with an enduring fragrance for policy matters, business, perspectives and capacity building.I like economics and political war rooms where politicians tap from.

    When decided to step into some public frontline, i will consider it as Global file is clean. For now its money time for future public office options.Zambia is under good Guardians.

  90. Mwaiche Joze,
    That is my preferred name here until someone started impersonating. I don’t cry over cyber ID until he retires. Do you have issues with that.

  91. Well if you have that education then use it, but anyone can doubt this claim. post your email i can give you my details you search me in google scholar and see what we do in economics. Scientific journals, not substanceless debates on blogs.

  92. Advice to the Zambian Electorate 2011
    Zambia is at the crossroads and seriously need direction by a VISIONARY.Being ANTI this or ANTI that isn`t be enough to propell our country into a place of prosperity it rightfully deserves.We need selfless individuals whose main aim is service to the nation and as a result creating a generational change or paradym shift in the thinking of our people.We need issue based politics that would usher in workable policies that would directly benefit the populous

  93. Partner with Zambia, Levy urges New Zealand
    By Noel Sichalwe
    Tuesday November 13, 2007 Email Article

    PRESIDENT Mwanawasa yesterday urged New Zealand to partner with Zambia in uplifting the living standard of Zambians.Receiving credentials from designate New Zealand High Commissioner to Zambia Malcolm McCoun at State House, President Mwanawasa said the two countries had cultivated friendly and warm relations that had seen them cooperating and supporting each other

  94. Mwaiche Joze,
    For long you have been dreaming that you live on the moon where it takes some million Dollars shuttles to access. Lampooning the President and defaming him will prove you wrong. Ask Miyanda how he thought the same way when he run for custody to Mobutu and the SA apartheid boers. Ask him how he found himself at City Airport before DG Mbewe and Brig.Gen. Nchitomfwa.

    I remind you in none cryptic terms

  95. Miyanda was discovered hybernating in Katanga by no other Zambia’s best military intelligence officer, the galant General Chitonfwa. The clever general tricked idle Miyanda with a fake Times of Zambia newspaper headline “Soldiers want Miyanda back to lead the country”. Godfoolish ati: “Take me back to lead my chaps into a coup plot!”. At Kasumbalesa Post, Chitomfwa fished Miyanda from the back seat of the Pegeot 504 into the boot. Upon seeing KK, Miyanda pissed in his combat, bratatatatateee!

  96. PF Members and their President must be of limited intelligence to revel in the praise that Titus Mpundu is giving them. Today Titus is heard praising Sata that “Ishi e ntungulushi” yet he was the one who picked Levy to succeed him over Levy. If at that time when he was working closely with Sata he could not see any ounce of ledership qualities in him , what transformation has Sata undegone to now be considered Intungulushi material. Countrymen Sata, Idi Amin and Hitler have the same traits.

  97. One thing though, when Chitomfwa fished Miyanda from the back seat to the boot, he according to the law read him his rights like so: “Godfrey Miyanda, I am arresting yousorry prat for attempting to overthrow the government of Kaunda via illegal means, whatever you say shall surely be used against you in nail you prat, idle soldier” It was the prat part that talked first when Miyanda saw Kaunda. What a coward, today this fool wants to be president, alah!!!

  98. #116 the story that did the rounds then was that while Miyanda was walking in the street of one town in the Congo, he was accosteb by a man who started a quarrel with him and tore his shirt.They then dragged each orther to a police station where Miyanda was handicuffed and handed over to the Zambian intelligence officers who wre waiting. He was the bundled into a car and spirited tothe airport and loaded onto a ZCCM owned mine air services aircraft onward to city airport in Lusaka.

  99. Iwe Ka Mulongoti, uli kapuba, nga chikawama its becoz of Chuchu’s good policies, nga chabipa its becoz of chiluba’s left behind bad policies. The question is why is Chuchu still chiluba’s bad policies 6 years after he left? you mean Chuchu has no brains of his own to make new good policies.

  100. #39 Learn to be truthful man, among crap leaders you left out Chuchu, who is the Chief crap Leader zed has ever produced. Is it becoz u belong to the family tree or you have benefited to cabbed UNZA land or mopper of Chuchu’s lenda at plot 1.

  101. #94 fact, there is no law that can say if you have a piece of land and you develop one part, then the remainng part should be grabbed! So if any person grabbed part of Unza land, that land should be given back. Unza land was made big to allow for future expansion, not for grabbing. Tomorow a caring Govt wil come and build more residences for students. Unza right now has serious accomodation problems, yet its land is being taken away. That is not good.

  102. Iwe ka Fact! You tolk you to waste pipo time here at this blog and come kolopa my drippings and lick my lenda at plot 1, becoz thats why I pay u for.

  103. the lack of any intellect and common decency in SOME of the contributions makes these pages such a waste of time. I miss the constructive dialogue that once existed.Gone are the days when i would continue on these pages well into the night after work, albeit to catch the erudite comrades in different time zones!! The c&p specialists have been sorted out so at least we are forced to be original. Foolish contributions should be deleted, as should this one, if deemed to fall in this category.

  104. #124 GLUCO, my brother why is this UNZA land a problem. Can it be allocated to meI want to build a stadium there for the next All Africa Games. This will include new hostels and sports facilities that will boost the moral of the boys and girls. TOP yes integrity ís missing. I miss pipo like Tonga Bull, Kuku who had wisdom. However Ba Joze has remained with partriot to this page and somehow he doesnt insult anymore. Bad news I just read that journalist Mpundu is died. RIP she was harding woman.

  105. GOVERNMENT will not allow anarchy, science minister Peter Daka has said. And the government yesterday indefinitely closed Lusaka’s Evelyn Hone College. …

    Shame what is wrong with our GOVT or the students of today. I very sad. After UNZA and CBU now its Hone

  106. Ba Easy(130),a major rethink of govt. policy and funding arrangements is needed for tertiary institutions.Financial as well as admin autonomy is required.i think the staff heading these institutions are inept at weaning themselves from govt. coffers.Maybe more private sector participation would effect more beneficial results.

  107. Easy 129
    I think the problem goes back to country and town planning. Why should we scramble for land as if we aint got vast land. Why should we all be towns and cities. What about the country side? In Zed so much land belonging to institutions has been dubiously grabbed. It’s not only UNZA, look at PHI. The bottom line is that we are too much squeezed in our town with no room for expansion of our road network, sewer system, etc.

  108. Mr Mlongoti If some of FTJ’s policies are still in force he must be credited for the successes, if any, that you the MMD claims you are making now.

  109. Fellow countrymen you think people with good hearts will resort to violence after losing?MMD ministers are fighters not developers.If a minister fights in puplic, what more worthless decisions and suggestions do you think he would put forward in their closed closed door meetings with a brainless Chuchu?Thats why i have kept on saying that MMD stand for Mulaya Mukunya Dumbwi.Come 2011.

  110. #129 Easy
    Land in Zed is owned by the govt and its has all the rights to repossess it if an individual does not develop within 5 years (used to be 10 years).Thus, land can either be privite or public hands that cater for govt institutions of which these institutions must have a layout plan for idle land.Of course when an idle land is grabbed from a private chap must be relocated to another chap.Leave Chainama, NRDC and UNZA land alone for future dev which is the prerogative of the govt and not

  111. #136 cont…
    not let land being grabbed by greedy chaps who think of nothing apart from themselves maka maka Dr chuchu. Surly, how do you call over stayed system as new deal govt for 7 year.May be they are right coz it is only the family tree that is enjoying and benefiting together with this ***** Fact/Patroit/PragMAFist well known bootlickers nokukolopa ilenda.

  112. Musosha should take up the role of the late Ngundunzani Lottie Mwale in boxing.I saw him in action in Chingola though it was sad but somehow I was impressed by his shuffles and swift foot work he showed.He hammered inkapila the fellow paper wgt Zedian while looking somewhere with a good foot work shuffle.I do remember seeing that during the time of Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule and Ali.The man is a misfit in politics but somehow he has shown us where he belongs.

  113. #128 Iwe ci muntu this blog belongs to everyone with money to blog not just some of us,who claims intelligency which we dont actual see here.What we are actually seeing is licking of the Govt of the Mad Muwelewele Devils.For me I dont see any intelligency in your contributions #128 just becoz others are not licking Chuchu’s govt you think they are foolish.A fool is one who never accept critism.#129 Easy iwe naiwe uyafye ukwalola umwela eko walola,you hv actual become brainless since Kuku left.

  114. Ba Joze, Musosha is not fit to be a minister, i personally feel he can do much better as a boxer and zambia will have undisputable heavy weight champion of all times am telling you, those punches he was flowing at a poor underweight zedian, another one i think can make a good boxer is mpombo, his face is like someone who wants to fight all the time.I tell you these two can make us proud in boxing

  115. #142 Ba Jose go and sort them out, especially ci Fact mwalacisanga cilekolopa ilenda lyakwa Boss wakwe Chuchu. Mpompo akwata icinso ichatikama kwati nika poli wamupanga.

  116. #141 Anonymous, I have just taken a low profile since Kuku stop blogging because of the standard of some of you. Anonymous check you sanity before you provoke the situation. I will be very glad if you start talking about how we can improve lives of fellow citizens. Yes I brainwash my minds to have them refreshed.

  117. #146 It is good for you that u now have time for your family. Are those insults u contributed in #55 are about improving lives of fellow citizens!!!! What a chick.

  118. EASY
    There is a big problem in the planning and land distribution by both the councils and central government.Example the only two recognised shopping malls (Zambian standards) Manda hill and Arcades how close they are to each other.Arguably Arcades could have been approved for another distant location to encourage development.Citizens scramble for plots within the so called prime areas and yet alot of idle land is available on the outskirts which with proper planning can be turned PRIME areas

  119. ZAMBIA: TORTOISE DELIVERS LETTER TO MAGISTRATE
    Another tortoise yesterday delivered a letter to Kitwe magistrate, Phabious Numbwa with a message demanding the release of two prisoners whom he allegedly jailed.The tortoise, which was found in court two in the afternoon carried a letter demanding that Mr Numbwa should release two of the people he had convicted to enable them go and solve the problems the prisoners’ families were facing.

  120. The letter also says Mr Numbwa should sort out the problems facing the families of the two unnamed prisoners if he did not release them.Copperbelt police chief, Antoneil Mtetwa confirmed the incident in an interview yesterday.He said the tortoise wrapped in a chitenge material was found in the courtroom just before 13:00 hours with a letter addressed to Mr Numbwa.

  121. “Release those people you have convicted because they have left problems at home otherwise you will sort the problems yourself,” reads the letter addressed to Mr Numbwa.The letter which was written in Bemba, however, did not indicate the names of the convicts, had no contact address, nor the name of the author.

  122. The tortoise was found near the bench close to where accused persons usually sit.The creature was discovered shortly after the suspects who had appeared in court in the morning, had been taken to the court cell.But Mr Numbwa said he was not moved by the letter, which he suspected to have come from one of the prisoners who had come from Kamfinsa prison.”This has not moved me because I do not even know the people the letter was talking about,” Mr Numbwa said.

  123. In Bemba, the letter stated that, “Twapapata, fumyeni abo abantu babili abo mwatuma kuchifungo. Ifyenu fyenu, ne fyesu fyesu. Ngamulefwaya ukulanda naifwe mulaishe abobene abaletele inkalata.”Meaning, “Please release those two people you have convicted. What is yours is yours and what is ours is ours. If you want to talk to us reply through the same channel.”Meanwhile, police in Ndola have released the businessman who was being held in connection with the scheme in which tortoises and pigeons we

  124. Ndola police chief, Stella Libongani confirmed the release of the suspect in an interview yesterday.She said police decided to free the suspect after the complainant, Emmanuel Mulenga, who is owner of Easy Mining Limited decided to drop the charge.Ms Libongani said the man whose name is being withheld was released on Saturday.The man behind the bizarre scheme used a pseudo name Jean Marie on the letters, which were delivered to four Copperbelt businessmen owing him money.

  125. He was detained at Kansenshi Police Station last week on Wednesday after Mr Mulenga lodged a complaint to the police.This was after a tortoise delivered a threatening letter to Mr Mulenga’s residence.Other businessmen, Mumena Mushinge, Gelson Mwale and Philip Mike Shimoomba also received the threatening letters delivered to the entrances of their houses by the creatures in bizarre circumstances.

  126. What happened at Evelyn Hone college yesterday goes beyond the accepted norms of student behaviour and should be condemned by all right thinking members of society. It is unimaginable that students can have the audacity to hold hostage college principal, Sam Kangwa and use him as a bargaining chip so that authorities accede to their demands that vice-principal, Ellan Kamfwa be fired.

  127. The protests began with the demand for improved sanitation and the general environment at the institution and the students received assurance from the minister of Science Technology and Vocational Training that their grievances were being addressed. It appeared as if sanity would prevail but going by the sad events that took place yesterday, there are no encouraging signs that this will be so. Even the public that may have sympathised with them will definitely change their minds for no parent or

  128. Even the public that may have sympathised with them will definitely change their minds for no parent or guardian can allow such kind of uncouth behaviour. The public is now strongly tempted to believe speculation that at this time of the year, students will usually use all sorts of excuses to avoid writing examinations. That there is a group of students who do not prepare adequately and incite their colleagues to protests in the hope that the institution will be closed and examinations postponed

  129. That there is a group of students who do not prepare adequately and incite their colleagues to protests in the hope that the institution will be closed and examinations postponed. No one can fault the public for reaching such a conclusion.How else can you explain such unreasonable behaviour ? How can the dismissal of one person solve their problems? Why are the students changing their demands? Time has come to take decisive action and put an end to this rogue behaviour. The nation cannot afford

  130. The nation cannot afford unnecesary interruptions of academic programmes.This means that culprits must be identified and shown the door. The institution must also devise stringent rules that will guide student behaviour.

  131. Ba Joze 136 & 138
    I totally agree with you. Let UNZA, CHAINAMA & NRDC land alone. Those institutions need expansion. We need more graduates from these institutions. We don’t need graduates spending their nights from roof tops. The environments in which they learn should be important as the edu they get period.

  132. #147 Anonymous thank you for the information I happy that the message reached you and I know where you belong. Probably, next time you will contribute an idea which has a vision for our country. I will be very glad to learn that anonymous has contributed this course of concept. What wrote in 55 is a true reflection of human beings. You are feel to continue talking about Mulongoti, FTJ, VJ Mabenga, KAKA, etc SATA meanwhile they continue leading luxury lives. It would be better to challenge them

  133. Easy (165),
    What do you expect from these caliberless chipulukusu and mulenga township chibuku drinking cadres pegged at a meagre ZK 50,000 monthly allowance for insults.Except these PF cadres, Smart punditry is a lucrative patriotic undertaking that comes with free education of choice under the sun, property ownership or Grandie Dollar pay in perpetuity. But for these, its chibuku money.That is why i called it quits for the real world gains.

  134. Sadly, they are here vainly burning themselves up when the insulted people in AC powered Prados are educated, in the money with their children in better and ever privileged positions under the sun. They don’t even see their 24/7 ranting in blogs patronized by a few Diaspora based pundits. There is no objective or vision here. 1 year no impact. Like must show SMART objectives if assessed.otherwise, its waffling as usual.

  135. #168 &#169 FACT
    Do you think that there`s anything that the LPM led MMD gov has ever done wrong that you would like to see handled differently for the benefit of Zambia?

  136. FACT

    So you want us to stop waffling? Give us jobs or lines of businesses to survive too. We don’t see contracts but yourselves. I have a scrap metal business of machines i guy from some junkyards in hope of the home market but top no avail. I also need to survive i’m tired of being dependent to this old white concubine abusing me in her late time extra.

  137. FACT
    I simply challenged you to show some objectivity in your praise of the LPM led gov but you resort the Kaponya (#171) mentality you were just opposing in #168 &169.
    Let`s be objective in the way we analyse national issues.

  138. FACT

    So you want us to stop waffling? Give us jobs or lines of businesses to survive too. We don’t see contracts but yourselves. I have a scrap metal business of machines i guy from some junkyards in hope of the home market but top no avail. I also need to survive i’m tired of being dependent to this old white concubine abusing me in her late time extra.

  139. FACT,

    Let me tell you off! You are not sharing with us the national cake so with me its back with Presido Sata. Over my dead body mwenso nifwa. Pantu tapali ichandi under MMD. My scrap mentals have no market.

  140. Mwaiche Wandi FACT
    Continue bootlicking LPM without any substantial and sustainable reward.Well for me,I will continue making monumental gains on the stock market.Ifwe Mwaiche,we even lend stepends to the US boma through bonds which have enabled us secure the lives of our great grand children for good.

  141. Ba Chapi,
    Why embarrasse yourself like that? Buying stocks is not limited to those of you in the USA only. Stocks now could be bought miles across miles through brockers or online.People have their fortune making turns on Chicago, NY,London,Tokyo etc stock and smiling dividends miles away. As you have revealed that you are in scrap metal business from some junk yards that does not make you hold on fat portfolios. If that is the case, why your mother is in that squire of poverty at home?

  142. Chapi,
    Also being in the US does not make one any better than those on the home front. sadly that perception is predominant among most of you fellows drunk with baseless ego. If you are comfortably making money and ploughing in the US treasury, then why yapping for Ba shikulu ba sata around the clock? You are so addicted to blogging that not even decent woman you could keep.

    You have just exposed your shallowness and mental strife there mune.Get ready for bruises from FACT.

  143. Mwaiche wandi Fact,
    That`s what I`ve been labouring to inform you all this time that BOOTLICKING LPM isn`t the solution.You can be financially independent when you open your eyes,use your brain and invest wisely.There`s no need for nchekeleko or the lines or contacts you keep reffering to in your earlier postings.When you do that mwaiche,you`ll never bootlick LPM again and atleast you`ll start being objective on national issues.

  144. Ba Chapi,

    Why is your mother in that a squire of poverty? when is never rich unless his family is lifted up. You are merely surviving period. Alot of us here have probably better portfolios here than you and have lifted the lives of our families beside our own. You just compalined of your old white lady abusing you.She is not its your povert of mind and resources. How have some of us managed to collectively progress with our families in the Diaspora? Redeem you mental slavery.

  145. Kalembe Kafyuke,
    This is what i have been telling chapi here. calling Mulongoti will not mitigate your quagmire. Its hard work and going for opportunities at home and around the Globe. Look ourbrother fraunting over the Google stocks when his mother can’t even figure out where are next mill will come from.Mulongoti is comfortable while you are signed up for insults to the Chapi-Joze club wafflers.

  146. Mwaiche FACT,
    I am not like you boss who neglected his mum to perish in mini bus accident.My mum lives in a four bedroomed house in NDOLA self contained and some manager from KCM (investor) renting the other house and she`s also on my payroll.What more can she ask for apart from enjoying her retirement.I need not remind you that her and my aunt just left for Zambia after enjoying some six months on vacation with my family over here.So don`t make me bore you with how I spoil my mum.

  147. Ba Chapi,
    This SAGE not FACT whatever your beef with him. You know I’m the only one besides yourself here who know your mother and her fate.Having a four roomed house in Chipulukusu without food, medical care, soap and relief from all her vices at 73 is a sign of your failure and hopelessness in life. This is free advice:Please reexamine your mental condition.

  148. Ba Chapi,
    This is SAGE not FACT whatever your beef with him. You know I’m the only one besides yourself here who know your mother and her fate.Having a four roomed house in Chipulukusu without food, medical care, soap and relief from all her vices at 73 is a sign of dangerous failure and hopelessness of you. This is free advice:Please re-examine your mental condition.

  149. Mwaiche FACT
    Just get motivated by the passion and care I have for my mum and hopefully you would take care of your mum the same way or even better.She deserves it young man and the ladies on the blog say….AMEN

  150. AMEN Chapi, Mwaiche FACT naba kwambukishako icipumputu kuli Boss obe Chuchu. Wamona nomba ukutemwa chekeleko kwakuletelela. Nabucha kakolope ilenda ku plot 1.

  151. People read between the lines. FTJ did not mean any harm. His comment is on democracy and a reminder to the chaps in government that the power lies in the voter’s hand. Anyway that should hurt in MMD but its the truth. IM no fan of Bashi Castro.

  152. Ka Fact

    We all know that SAGE stopped blogging long time ago.Why can’t you stick to your IDs Patriot, FACTless,Pappalazi, and/or PragMAFist? Stop behaving like BORAT asking yourself questions and answer them using different IDs.Sometimes I consider you as Chalie Chapman, the real blog comedian.Ala namumukula tata soon you will start having abeshikulu since you have prolific genes at reproduction.

  153. FACT/Pragmatist on the 17th Nov 2007 I will at Harvard University to present a paper on”Weak Kwacha ,Weak MMD and Weak Levy” please attend without fail, snacks and drinks on sale using ngwees only
    Tell even your failed friends Veteran turned despot,Senior Citizen without a nation, and bakapoli bonse abatikama ifinso kwati ni mpompo yamu Kafue game management area

  154. Ba Joze (89),

    Who told you i have completely dropped out of blogging? Yes i have cut on my traffic here due to your sub level role daily denting the PF image which i have no control on since your contact was between you and Ba Sata.Did i sign a paper before you that i have quit? What do you have from for this blog to attest your spokesman ship for my ID? I criticize you because you are disgrace who has lowered the standards of blogging.

  155. Mulongoti…where are you from? Chiluba stop up to KK when everybody was covering and saluting super Ken!
    Mlongoti, How are you?

  156. Chiluba is just a chameleon.
    Let him account for every ngwee!From state company sales.
    let us nick him for genocide as well for luck of medicine in hospitals.
    WHAT CHEEK!!

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