Southern Africa Development Community (SADC) Chairman Levy Mwanawasa has called for the postponement of the Zimbabwe Presidential run off elections scheduled for 27th June until further notice.
Dr. Mwanawasa has since urged election authorities in Zimbabwe to implement the postponement in order to allow for the establishment of conditions suitable for the holding of genuinely free and fair elections in accordance with Zimbabwean law and the SADC principles.
Speaking during a media conference in Lusaka this afternoon, Dr. Mwanawasa who is also Republic of Zambia President said the situation in Zimbabwe does not stimulate the holding of free and fair elections.
Dr. Mwanawasa pointed out that he would be failing in his duties as SADC Chairperson if he did not offer timely advise to Zimbabwe to postpone the elections saying the current political environment in that country falls far short of the SADC principles.
The SADC Chairperson noted that the run-off elections in Zimbabwe will not be free and fair due to among others banning and disruption of opposition campaign rallies, detention and arresting of opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai and his Secretary General Tendai Biti currently facing treason charges.
Dr. Mwanawasa also cited Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe’s declaration that he will not accept an MDC victory in the elections and his threats of an impending civil war.
“Apart from this, the opposition has been denied equal access to state media thereby denying them the opportunity to communicate their campaign messages effectively,” noted the SADC Chairman.
Dr. Mwanawasa added that SADC and African Union report by the International Press Institute-IPI revealed that there has been physical attacks on Journalists in the last few months.
He pointed out that in view of this, it is not possible to have free and free elections in the SADC member state saying it will be embarrassing to both the SADC region and Africa to proceed with the run-off election under the current political situation.
Dr. Mwanawasa said postponing the run-off elections would avert the catastrophe threatening the region.
Asked whether his decision to postpone the run-off elections in Zimbabwe had the blessings of the SADC Heads of State, President Mwanawasa said he had two options of consulting or to use his discretion as SADC Chairman.
He pointed out that he decided to use his leadership role and that it would be sad if the majority of SADC leaders do not support what should be considered as a right path to take.
Dr. Mwanawasa said in the past five days he tried to contact leaders in the region but however managed to talk to four out of the 14 Heads of states and government leaders in the regional body.
Meanwhile, President Mwanawasa has expressed disappointment that he is being denied access to information and has to rely on intelligence reports gathered and through the press.
He said South Africa President Thabo Mbeki who is the regional mandated mediator has not briefed him on the out come of the recent talks he had with Mr. Mugabe and Tsvangirai .
‘ I tried to call him yesterday , but was told by the private secretary what he was in a meeting and that he will get back.
Even today I tried but he was in a meeting and has not gotten back,’ President Mwanawsa said.
And President Mwanawasa said he is disappointed that some Zimbabweans have misinterpreted Zambia’s efforts to resolve the crisis in Zimbabwe saying he was concerned about the deteriorating economic situation in the neighboring country.
“My concern and that of the Zambian people is to see that Zimbabwe lives in peace for itself and it neighbors. Our relations with Zimbabwe is still cordial hence our continued efforts to see that Zimbabweans enjoy peace once more. A troubled Zimbabwe is a troubled Zambia,” said Dr. Mwanawasa.
On 2nd May, the Zimbabwean electoral commission announced the Presidential results in which opposition leader Tsvangirai received 47.9 percent while ZANU-PF President Robert Mugabe received 43.2 percent.
In accordance with the Zimbabwean law a run-of was called between Tsvangirai and Mugabe set for 27th June.
Zimbabwe went to the polls on 29th March this year and it took more than one month before the Presidential election results were announced.
Bob needs a bullet in the head.Better one to die than the masses.
Just go for a Government of National Unity-GNU and internal dynamics will shape the future.The people and their systems will systematically eliminate what they don’t like in accordance to their value systems. Both true and implanted leadership in the nation will be systematically filtered out to produce a people’s Government.Zambia be careful with this situation because of our precarious border and economic vulnerability in advent of any disproportionate and externalized hegemony.Our stability and growth impinges on their regional stability.
Lefi plisi foget about aya ama shilu Mbeki and Bob concetrate on Sambia development.
Kangwasenuka,
Have you ever killed someone or been in any engaging front line combat for any cause in your life time to be that obsessive with the bullet? Usually dimwits civilians without a background are the ones with your type of reckless objectionable waffle.Do you understand the internal and external dynamics from economic repo effects that we would shoulder? I don’t concur with your unresearched option which has no place in our intermediatory role as Zambians.
Bob says only ,’God can remove him from power cos he is the one who put there’.Hence he says he will continue ruling until God says no.He was speaking yesterday during a meeting he had with Bulawayo based businessmen in Bulawayo.
This man needs to be cleared chapwa!
Mr. president your stance is timely and you have once again shown your ability of leadership. you inspire me a lot, you believe in yourself and know what is right and go for it. since you became the president of our land you have made unpopular decisions which turned to be supported and appreciated by all later. Morgan Tsavngarai has withdrawn from the presidential race and we will hear what the zambambwean Govt will accuse you now. maybe this time they will say that you planned it together withe Tsavngarai because of the coincident of your announcements.God bless zimbambwe, our brothers and sisters have suffered for a long time.
Thats the way to go ur excellency #6 has said it in a nutshell there is not much i can say but keep it up u got balls these other SADC leaders nibangwele ur legacy will be strong.
#5 SIBS, I dont know which God Bob is Refering to. This man is a devil worshipper. There’s too much pride in BOB. Jehovah will sort him out soon, He does whatever he sees fit and says it’s in the name of GOD just as in the case of Dr Pule and his many marriages. Nakabili bashimapepo ba Pule na bopa uwanamba three, BWAFYA SANA
Thanx mwanawasa 4 ur bravery decision 4 them to postpone the elections. Mugabe and mbeki are not gud leaders.
LPM has done his duty as SADCC chairperson but Bon should be made to think and act in the inerests of the nation.It seems he has not known any other life apart from him being president.KK nearly took the same route but the Zambian people couldnt allow(I commend UNZA students then for the role they played.)Chiluba tried it too by wanting to continue beyond his term and Zambian people refused.LPM should even try because Zambians will refuse again.Zimbabweans should also be bold enough to remove their own failing leader.Zimbabwe is bigger than mugabe
I will be failing in my duties as a responsible Zambian if I don’t congratulate Levy P Mwanawasa for his courage and Leadership. Face it folks, Mugabe is irresponsible, has failed to feed his own people and has caused many to die! its no longer about land issues as he claims. He has indirectly killed many people just like he did in early 80’s!!!
Amazingly the British media has been portraying the SA president as the chairperson of SADC who is playing a major role in making sure something is done about the Zimbabwean situation.No one has recognised the efforts made by our country- which only makes you just think ‘why bother?’
From Zambia online
Name: Bwembya | Country of residence: Zambia | Written: Sunday, 22 June 2008 (21:33)
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REAL TIME NEWS FLASH
Exactly 10 minutes ago, South African President Thabo Mbeki has just issued a statement from Pretoria calling for a dialogue between Zimbabwe’s President Mugabe and Tsvingirai.
A spade should be called a spade. Who better to lead the crusade than our very own LPM? Bravo Mr President. Let other brave leaders in the SADC follow your mantle. We shall see the cowards by their actions. Some economies in the region are being run down because of the lack of realism by some leaders, denying there is a crisis in Zimbabwe when the opposite is the case, not acknowledgeing xenophobia until it is too late let alone failing to acknowlegde HIV as the cause of AIDS…. where to Africa with such leaders?
#13 What is Mbeki up to. What dialogue when recently he was qouted as saying that there is no crisis in Zimbabwe
Mbeki must be smoking weed together with Bob.
Pule is a disgrace to the christian community and to his own family.These are the issues we need to tackle as adults now what example are we setting for our young ones
Now that LPM is proposing the elections to be postponed, what next? Wait for Bob to die or what? Who’s going to make sure the things LPM is suggesting are implemented in Zimbabwe? Mugabe is not ready to dialogue with anyone. Maybe with Mbeki.
LPM.good move.better late than never.we should not rejoice when we see friends suffering.Times is moving slowing.we need Juma now enough is enough.i wont miss Mbeki for zino fofo.
What is happening in Zim suggests that Zimbos have an exceptionally high threshold for withstanding pain and suffering. Zambians are known to demonstrate in numbers to achieve something going by what happened when change was inevtiable in 1991 and when someone’s immunity needed to be lifted and many other similar events. Our brothers are quietly allowing brothers to die at the hands of the old lunatics zealots. What LPM has done is a step forward and Zim being a sovereign state the Zimbos need to fire up the next course of action aprticularly the ZEC.
enough is not enough, but too much of this man bob.zimboz pliz us, in Zed had enough of that in 1991.your ball is now yours.a leader is there to protect not hit you till death.morgan has tried.if you can all come up in numbers am sure he bob can go.
MUGABE NEEDS A BULLET IN HIS HEAD.
I just have to say that i am EXTREMELY PROUD OF LPM that right now i am extremely proud to be Zambian that i am shaking and feeling warm inside and i feel like dancing and going to visit my Zimbabwean friends and telling them “Zambia is there for you”.
LPM, you have truly impressed me here, but no third term ka!!!
Anywayz, if Mugabe refuses, i propose that the SADC should close there borders on Zimbabwe. Zambia can do without Zimbabwe, we can export our goods through Tanzania, Namibia and Mozambique. All SADC countries must close there borders with Zimbabwe.
Maybe if that Tyrant Mugabe sees no African leaders are supporting him, he’ll step down.
Mbeki, your time will come. ANC will not rule forever my friend.
We will support the DA under Helen Zille.
Mbeki, just because you control Africa’s most powerful economy does not mean you are invisible my friend. Your time will come.
Mwabela nobapapati bacisi cesu ca-Zambia. Amujatisye inchito mbotu eyi njomwata.
i am VERY proud of our president. Hats of to LPM for who he is and the country he comes from. Zambia is a poor country, the president can do things better locally…. but hey, atleast he kws wat it is to be a Human unlike the D**K Head next door. RESPECT MAN!!
Mugabe is expired and should know the way out
I thank God for Mwanawasa’s stance. He has shown leadership. He has shown that leadership is greater than diplomacy. Diplomacy should always be subservient to leadership and not the other way round.
I think President Thabo Mbeki is the stupidest president on the face of Africa, damn. As one of the contributors below noted, its not only his stance on Zimbabwe but also on his stance on AIDS and HIV which stink. Also, the way he treated that heroin Winnie Madikizela Mandela was wholly pathetic. The sooner that aloof scum and blight of Africa leaves office, the better. Zimbabwe is today beyond the point of return because of Mbeki’s shameful support for Mugabe through his rotten policy of silent diplomacy. We all supported the ANC, and to be repaid with xenophobia and support for a tyrrant killing us amounts to ingratitude of the worst oder.
ummmm…. let’s get back to the basic facts of the zim situation folks — consider: what is really causing zim to suffer? is it mugabe who cut off the rest of the world from zim or the other way around? it seems to me the heart of the problem stems from the sanctions themselves. i wonder what magic “bullet” you all think will happen when mugabe goes. in order to think that the sanctions will go away if morgan wins, then you should also go back to the understand WHY the sanctions in the first place? the sanctions were a response to the land “grab” so therefore they will only go anyway when the land is given back — whoever it is who gives it back is irrelevant to them (the brits). so to
advocate that mugabe needs a bullet and that will end zims suffering is a false argument. you should know that if you want zims to stop suffering then that means the sanctions must go, and for the sanctions to go means the brits get their land back…… so if that is something you think should happen then i suggest you ask yourself why we struggled for independence the first time around.
I praise what LPM has done. Keep it up, man! But l wonder if this crazy guy will really listen to your good advice! “Amano yafuma mwifwasa yaya mu culu!” Bena Zed, let us help our brothers, the Zimboz to liberate themselves from this crooked fellow known as BOB!
#1, think b4 u blog. Or else do not. Let Zimbabweans themselves start thinking of such things. Not u. Even then that a wrong approach to problem solving. How many countries (always in Africa) do u know who had their leaders assassinated and no further assissinations followed? Don’t think that Zambia can be a safe place if trouble in Zimbabwe riches a certain level there. There are many ways of solving Zim problems. However, assassination is not acceptable. There4, not one of them.
#29. kansas
Just to correct you. Sanctions where placed on Zimbabwe because it was believed that he rigged the elections.
Mugabe then retaliated and forcefully, violently and carried out a racist, genocidal land grab on innocent white farmers.
cont…
the white farmers where innocent because there was a referendum where people where given a choice to vote yes or no. They where voting weather govt should forcefully grab land from white farmers without compensation and majority of the population voted NO.
Mugabe ignored this and grabbed the land anywayz.
Western imperialists my a-s-s.
The people voted NO.
#30 stupid makaka.Ur reasoning is pathetic.Bob needs to be removed by all means.Dont try to bring in the issue of Britain or what.This tyrany has lead to a lot of deaths and he also deserves to die.I hope he will be charged with crimes against humanity.
#29 Dont dwell on the past issues *****.fom the look of things it seems ur a supporter of Mugabe.Can u pse back off from this site with ur stinking contributions makaka.
#36 you ve always been RGM’s supporter, why the about turn now? You theorise on empty long threads which are always out of context with the issue at hand.
Thnks LPM, that the Zambian that we have always known to be, the one that brookes no nonsense. Mbeki has forever maintained that there is no crisis in Zim, why should he suggest dialogue now and on what subject matter if all is well.
Further more, who are the 10 SADC leaders who cant return a presidential telephone call. I suppose that is basic office mannerisms to call back when u got a missed call. Levi go another mile on this man! We proud of you.
There is a point in life when pipo are suppose to move away from the big egos and do what is noble and mugabe seems to be so emboded in his ego that he would wait until the last soul standing in zimbabwe is slaughtered.He may have a point but now all his argument is rapped up in his ego.This makes me more prouder of my pipo in zambia because we have been at crossroad and our leaders have been so magnanimous.This can be reflected in the leadership that Levy once again is showing.To some this might seem to be weakness but this is true leadership.African leaders must come together and deal with this crisis.Kudos to Ley for excellent leadership
Wonderful job Levy. That is leadership. Mugabe and his savages cannot be allowed to ruin Zimbabwe, and Southern Africa. If African leaders were behaving like Levy, Africa would have been long on the road to genuine democracy.
This brings me to the point that we have to be very carefull in the the way we frame our constitution.The 50+1% must be seriosly debated I for one would like the Idea but I just do not think we are that democratically mature that we can handle such kind of instrument.Yes there are loopholes in the electrol process but we can fix that by fixing the loophole than to set ourselves up for bloodshed.We must nature our democracy and make it a shining star in the region.May God bless zambia and its leaders.This also goes for freedom of imformation act much as it sounds good to be imformed we must set the limits so that we do not have pipo that can plung the nation in chaos for selfish motives.
Mbeke is maybe psychotic, we looked after this stupid person in Chamba valley ZAF headquarters for many years during the struggle for independence in south africa.This is the same person who was a refugee in our country and understands the pain of running away from your beloved country still making cruede remarks. We wish Mandela is the president and not this *****. Many times Zambia is going to help our sisters and brothers in neighbouring countries? Mbeke is a small tiny pooh
The west may be wrong about zimbabwe but thats why pipo have to talk about issues.Mugabe is lining up like wat we only see in the far east with suicide squads.He is ready kill zimbabwen just to show the west that he can stand up to them.There is always a way by which you can bargain for a better deal for your pipo that to gamble with life and hoping the other guy will be mercifull on us.For now mugabe is not the right man for zim.My only hope is that he is in the evening of his life.I had a chance of asking KK about the issue one time and he could be of great help if Levy proposed him to be sadc envoy and soften his heart and look at the long term results
to #33 crazy-zambian pliz lets not only talk about the sanctions! we can blame USA for the sanctions but really Bob chased out the NGO’s supplying food aid to the neediest of the needy…so please if he really cared about the welfare of Zimbos he would not deprive them of food just because SUSPECTED they were SUPPORTING and AIDING the opposition??? this is total self interest he thinks he owns the country because he struggled for its independence…such stupidity awe shuwa ba tata aba bachita over Mwe!
Good stance by LPM. However, do we have free and fair elections in Zambia. Did we have fair and free elections in 2001, 2006, kanyama bye – elections, and now milanzi where people are corrupted over food??????? I know it could be worse in Zimbabwe than what happens in zambia, but as we stand on ant-hills calling others to conduct free and fair elections, we should checks oueselves whether we conduct ours in a free and fair manner.
Levy’s actions have come a little bit late. He should have come out strongly at Mulungushi when the SADC leaders met. He also lost credibility because of flip flopping. Remember he called Zimbabwe the “sinking Titanic” and a few days later was trying to please Mugabe in everyway possible, going to the extent of threatening to abandon a world summit if Mugabe was not invited. Sad for the brothers in Zimbabwe. The silence from African leaders is a serious betrayal. Martin Luther once said, “In the end we’ll remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends”.
I thank God for giving us a good leader like Levy Mwanawasa.The whole world is watching and looking.It really calls for brave,honest and upright people like Levy to condemn what is happening in Zimbabwe.
Levy has exposed the hypocricy in the President of the Republic of Xenophobia(ROX)….Thabo Mbeki..
Mulimu a lumbekwe!!!!
#45 Tonga Bull
What a nice saying.
The effort by LPM to correct things in Zim must be applauded. I suppose most of us don’t appreciate the tight situation LPM find himself in. He is SADC chair while Mbeki from this ‘powerful RSA’ is a mediator. LPM complains of Mbeki not sharing any dicussion with Bob. I saw Mbeki yesterday on TV encouraging dialoge betwen MDC and ZAnu-PF…just another general statement from Mbeki. The LPM Solution to postpone election is the optimum option as it leaves a widow for democratic change. Mbeki has failed. And if RSA want to have positive impact of Africa in future, she must start cloning Mandela now.
Well done LPM..better later rather than never!!!..I have a feeling that Mbeki is using Bob to run an experimant for him..is Mbeki not starting to do the same thing in SA now..on a smaller scale???
Mbeke is a drug dealer when he was in ZAMBIA he was dealing in druge and money lundring this i have in full proof he use to live in emsedale those ANC offices so from him u cant expet any thing i know a lot of people who were dealing with him r still here in lusaka i kno of 3
its high time these so called presidents started respecting our president mwanawasa.he phones them then they ignore him.that shows that they dont respect all Zambians.pliz let them hang.even S.A should realise that Zed survived without them.That money KK spent on them could have gone to more wealth projects.
#43. affrocentric
I think maybe you should read my post again. You are speaking from without.
#51, those are noble concerns. But let us concentrate on building our great nation Zambia in all areas of life now.
We will help if anyone will need us, but let us not force people to receive our help.
We have already demonstrated that we are willing to make things better for our brethren in Zambabwe – because an unstable Zimbabwe is an unstable Zambia as our President LPM has implied in the news above.
Be blessed you Zambians wherever you are and let us ride above challenges and petty issues. May God help the Zimbabwean people in this trying times. Zambia will always be there for you Zimbos.
While Levy is talking about the levelling the playing field in Harare, Let him start here at home during the bye elections. His sychophants are busy bribing, buying voters’ cards and intimidating the opponents.
He also participates by scaring the voters about development if they don’t vote for his party
Enough of hypocrisy. How legitimate is his presidency anyway?
Well Done LPM, we always thought we had a leader in SADC.Its showing.The way forward would be to assemble a group of very good minds like KK, Masire, Chissano, Mkapa, Tutu, etc.These guys should look at a government of national unity, with a view of puting together a new constituition 4 zimbos by zimbos, re-structure the justice system, dissolve all military top brasses etc. AS all these instituitions are no longer strong bcoz of ZANU-PFication.This govt must be lead by a natural not from ZANU-PF and MDC for neutrality.And be given a two-year period for all these fixes hence elections.Zim is to ZANU-PFied to be inclusive at the moment.What do you think? Mbeki and LPM would not be neutral now
On the issue of Zimbabwe, history will judge Mr. Thabo “Happy” Mvuyelwa Mbeki very harshly. Indeed, as the Bembas say, a fish starts rotting from the head, no wonder it’s Thabo’s head, eye lashes, eye browse and moustache going completely grey. The chap is completely useless. If South Africa is going to be of any positive influence in the region or Africa at large, we need to find urgent ways of cloning Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela, that most gallant son of Africa. Zimbabwe is today, like the structures, in ruins, and all because of Mbeki’s support for the devil called Mugabe.
SADC and Africa must be careful how they handle Bob. If left to do what he wants, he will drag the whole region with him. Chances are that SADC will never be the same again with lack of trust. What is wrong with africa, can’t we handle cases that are clear like the Zim case until the whole 250Million people get affected? SADC is divided over an oldman who had a few years to live at the expense of the region!!!
Excellent mwemfumu its a step in the right direction,ba LEVY.
We salute you your Excellency!one thing ,why can’t you guys remove Robbie by force?Chuumbwe’s statement is now justified right?Zimbabwe need liberation!!
looking at most of the postings here, I see that pipo are really saddened, and rightfully so, about the Zim situation. I have also noticed that there is unanimity in applauding LPM for the stand he has taken on the situation in Zim. And I think that his position is right.
However, I think that there is a better way of expressing one’s position in a manner that does not make one appear to be ignored or belittled other presidnts. He should have avoided detailes about how he made calls and not answered, infor being denied, etc. Then he says the only info he is relying on is based on “intelligence” sources. What does he mean intelligence? Has he sent shushushus there? Diplomacy is important.
#46 Republic of Xenophobia sounds just right for Thabo Mbeki’s government lol.
Let someone will torch Mugabe when he goes down south.
Accept the truth BoB you what to be the next Saddam.
#60 All pres has shushus in zim, just last year a SA shushu was arrested in zim.Come on, we should all know that, you cannot rely on Mbeki’s reports, they are all very biased in Bob’s favor.Maybe, Bob is the author of Mbeki’s report.And on the issue of who he consulted, I think he was brave, he must come clean now otherwise if he lies, his credibilty will be in question tomorow if he proved wrong.And “yes” he had to answer that question, its very important now and tomorow.
Good advice Mr.President,we are proud of you.You have really shown a quality leadership,kunyina ciinda waawa.Thank you.
Man all i got to say is Mr. President well done that white hair is not for nothing, that crown of wisdom has shook the leaders of this world, looking at the various news outlets in africa and in the west ur view seems to be the most widely received and most logical, mbeki for all his supposed power as president of sa has been exposed for his weak leadership, once again u have done us proud mwana musankwa!!! Have u guys noticed how some world leaders are now condemning mugabe all of a suden after levy does the dirty work they then add their two cents also.
Cheers President LPM. That is absolutely imperative. On the other hand, that is one of the problems of 50+1. Morgan would have been
President of Zimbabwe by now if it wasn’t for 50+1. Zambia take heed.
The best thing to happen to Robby is to hang him,.why cant you remove him by force?Zimbabweans need liberation and freedom.
There is no problem with 50+1% as it ensures that president i s legitimate. LPM means well but he should understand his role as SADC Chairman that it is a ceremonial one . Zimab is not a province of Zambia but a Sovereign State. Consultation is very important and LPM would have taken time to cosult KK and other elders. No excitment because this is a regional and deplomatic issue. Dont forget that Zambia nerver had legitmae elections for a long time.The riggins in the 2006 and 20001 are still stinking in our bedroom. Principal first before advise and condemnation. We are not happy with the happenings but all the fators ranging from sanctions are suppose to be cosidered. Learn to consult LPM
#30 kansas forgive them they don,t what they are talking about.Lancester gate deal should have been allowed to stand,if it wasn,t for Clare Short insulting the Zimbabwean govt.Tony Blair was upset about the gay comments Mugube made about his ministers hence the sancations.We have half a million Zimbabweans in the uk,who are worried about being sent back to their country if Mugube was ousted.what liberation and freedom are people talking about? Zimbabwean criminals are making money here,they all claim to be MDC and the gravy train is gone once Bobby goes
Great leaders conults and take their time before issuing sensitive statements. We had differenes in opinions with our neighbours in the KK and Chiluba`s time but diplomacy served the situation. Zimbza is not a province of Zambia and the economic problems of Zimbabwe have no devastating effect on Zambia as is the case with SA.Instead Zambia has gained.Principal and cnsultation is key. Goodluck
I would like to recommend President Levy Mwanawasa for his stance on Zimbabwe. Time has come when African leaders must tell Mugabe that enough is enough. We cannot just and see Zimbabwe goes down because of self individuals who think that they are defending the country.’
Please Dr Mwanawasa continue with your good efforts to help our neighbor Zimbabwe.
#68 you must be sick.consult KK,for what? i think its high time you became serious.and you continue on 70 to show your ignorance that Zims problem is not affecting Zambia.for free mental check-up come to S.A i am ready to examine your head.i will give you all my contacts.
whats the point of having land when you cant look after it, you cant grow anything, you cant build any thing………….yet the wars are all about land…..
live and let live….for those ‘thick’ enuf will still get bread on their tables.
Peace is the best thing known to man….. look at Zambia its not exactly Switzerland but peace provides contentment and love.
however, with Zimbos there is a need for war to achieve the peace. ONLY YOU ZIMBOS CAN DO IT. NO OIL IN YOUR COUNTRY GUYS.
I got ‘300’movie training manual for any Zimbos out there with balls enuf to wedge a war with Robbert. give me a shout……..it will work. ur police cant find food…. where they gonna find military trainig manuals….you already got an advantage.
#68 interesting,but consulting leaders like KK,chiluba,mbeki,oh, Jesus. little do you realise that some countries in africa, including zambia is still backwards because of such leaders we have had.Bravo Levy..
Well done Sc Dr. President LPM, you are clean in this matter and now left are your friends who are cowards we are still waiting for them to comment.
Comrade, Dr, War veteran,Chief Army Commander Robert Gabriel Mugabe should be hanged until a qualified Doc from MDC pronounces him dead.Mbeki should be ashamed of his lies too.BOMBEKI should be condemned.
MDC took a good stance as well, VIVA Zambia
Levi leave this issue to the Zimbabweans, your Army has no capacity to hit Bob, Angolan army can silence him, may be! Solve the poverty in our country especially the distresssed former civil servants who are getting 16 pin
One upon a time there was a land called “ZIMBABWE”! Its leader was very ruthless and the people moved to other neighbouring states. The land remained without subjects!
In the land known as “Zambia” they demanded to be recognised as locals and eventually Zambia became known as ZAMBIBWE. Same with NAMIBIA whic became NAMIBWE etc…
Too bad MUGABE and his thugs have no eyes and heart for the “ZIMBOS”. The ZIMBOS never give up… You shall defeat him!! Time shall suck his blood!!!
#68 did you listen to yesterday’s press conference, I am assuming you are in Zambia, if not refer to the blog under the headline LPM hold Press Conference and see my comments there. What do you think of LPM, I think on this score he has done exceptionally well and it seems like everyone is agreeing with him, first anf foremost KK are friends with Mugabe so that makes him a not very good consultant because he is an interested party. Much as I am not against consultation but sometimes its better to follow your gut. And sometimes when you are consulted, it does not mean that one will take your advise, what if it is wrong? So please refer to the comments or stick to what LPM said yesterday.
#77 I am not sure where the army is coming in here, or have you stayed too long in the diaspora (US/Britain), where they think all problems are resolved by armed means? The SADC chair has a responsibility and even before the Lesotho conference where Levy became chairperson, he has spoken about Zimbabwe strongly.
bla bla bla
now its upto Zimbabweans themselves.nigeria did it,Congo dr did it.why not Zimbabwe? if enough is enough and you can no longer afford to be tormented by the same people who are suppose to protect you,rise-up.Zim is longer a laughing…?..but a serious concern to any normal being who loves peace.UN club.AU AND some SADC countries are wealthless clubs.pliz EU,i see 80% are serious,keepit up.
Britain wants to impose more sanctions on Zim as if that is the only way to solve the Zim issue.I feel for those helpless Zims in the country who cannot run anywhere.Think of the elderly,children and disabled-what will become of them?Zimbabwe has turned into a Darfur of Southern Africa while everyone watches and does nothing about it.Millions of Zims have been displaced already,many are starving and noone cares about how many are dying everyday.We are more concerned about the 104 British people that have died so far in Iraq and Afghanstan and yet it is the same life which is lost-or is it different?Gordon wants to impose MORE sanctions as if there are any left.
Precisely #83 as though there are anymore sunctions he can impose.
I think my dear African brothers, we need to forget about the noise made by Brown and his allays. Those red eared people have never liked us and will never. They look at us as substandard human beings. Whatever ka Brown is saying is in no way for the interest of the Zimbabweans. He is more concerned about revenging for the land his people were chased from. Let us focus on supporting our leaders who seem to be objective about the Zimbabwe issue such as LPM. Africa must solve her own problems. The whites re happy to see us die in numbers I can assure you that.
Mr President, when UNIP boycoted elections in 1996 in your country you allowed the elections to go on because it was in your favour as MMD.Today you think you are being wise by asking Zimbabwe to post pone elections because MDC has withdrawn. Clean up your house man!!! We know what happened in your last elections.
86. Anonymous… NO leader will ever stay in power for more than 100 years. I mean MUGABE is not immortal. He shall start having memory problems so soon. He is so old. Its shameful to see your old man doing simple tricks that he thinks we cant discern. Its all clear.
You are very brainwashed! Did he do brain transplants on you? I cant say you are dull or backward! You should be thinking of someone to takeover from him. He must feel pity on himself. He must start resting.
Your ladies are allover in ZAMBIBWE selling their flesh!! Solve your problems. You are going nowhere. Humble yourselves. What are you in the PF? Bootlicker?
#85 dont embarrase your head.its better to keep quiet.
#88 can you elaborate, you indeed sound more clever than I so educate me.
From Zambia Online
Name: Bwembya | Country of residence: Zambia | Written: Monday, 23 June 2008 (17:01)
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REAL TIME NEWS FLASH TO A MINUTE
“Morgan Tsvangirai takes refuge”
MDC’s Morgan Tsvangirai takes refuge in the Harare based Dutch Embassy as Veterans resolve to put their lives for the Country fought for in years of Guerrilla welfare.
#86, please revist your history. President LPM SC was not actively involved in the 1996 elections. However, this doesn’t mean MMD conducted themselevs in a normal way of doing things. While UNIP boycotted the ’96 presidential elections, there were some other political parties that participated.
Please, the truth does not need defending. Just go back 12 years in history and you will find all the data you need instead of showing clear lack of sound information.
I personally feel for Zimbabweans. They deserve better, in my opinion.
Eli lwanya. Well done LPM. Zimbabwean issues are no longer within its boarders but have spilt over and if ignored we will pay dearly. I fear for my own country Zambia. As SADC Chair we have to call the shots and speak on behalf of the oppressed Zimbwabweans. Its no longer a crisis but a continental catastrophy. I hope all SADC members for once will talk/speak sense into Bob’s head. Ever heard of Mutabaruka’s song ” Freedom must come” ( By the ballot or the gun, the bible or the bullet, any which way freedom must com) God forbid. If my voice wont be heard then my prayer for a Zinbabwe that flows with milk and honey will. Peace
Cast vote with discerning mind
June 27 is the moment of truth. As we meditate and reflect on how we will vote, I wish to encourage other potential voters that this is a vote that we should cast with a discerning mind and spirit.It is a vote that will either propel Zimbabwe forward or take it back to 1890.It is within our power to choose to empower ourselves and attain total independence not only for now, but for generations to come.The economic challenges seem to be unrelenting, but I urge all Zimbabwean voters that this is a vote that we should not cast with anger, and neither should we vote with our stomachs.
The present is important, but the future of this country is more critical.This is why on Friday we should all go out and vote, and do so reasonably.That vote will determine the type of Zimbabwe we are shaping, and whether it will in the long-term address our concerns.This calls for an objective analysis of issues and putting things into historical and future perspectives.Zimbabwe’s heroes took that leap of faith and decided to wage an armed struggle that lasted 14 years.Today it is our turn, for the sake of our children and future generations.Zimbabwe and its leadership are being criticised right now, but as the saying goes, “hapana inofurira imwe”. One man’s meat, is another man’s poison.
Let us also remember that the ballot is just but one of the many processes in any democracy.What preceded it was the struggle to be enfranchised and have one person, one vote.
100pc empowerment adverts good
This is for the people of Zimbabwe. Milk and honey will flow. Yes, put your hope and trust in that, and also anchor your faith in that possibility.I want to thank Zanu-PF for flighting the 100 percent empowerment advertisements in the media.Now we know what land reform really means.Lets us make everything that is critical to our economic development and prosperity 100 percent: 100 percent African; 100 percent independence; 100 percent sovereignty; 100 percent empowerment; and 100 percent indigenisation, and much more.
To me, Zimbabwe now stands for: Zimbabwean Indigenisation Making Big Accomplishments Blacks With Empowerment.
Proudly Zimbabwean citizen.
President will win run-off poll hands down: Chiwenga
Zimbabwe Defence Forces Commander General Constantine Chiwenga has predicted a resounding win for President Mugabe in Friday’s historic presidential run-off.The ZDF Commander said Zimbabwe would have no apologies to make to any “house nigger” and puppets of the British after President Mugabe’s victory.Speaking at a reception he held for his Namibian counterpart on Saturday night, Lieutenant-General Martin Shalli, Gen Chiwenga said a lot of blood was shed during the bitter armed struggle to free Zimbabwe and the gains should never be reversed.
“Our comrade, Defence Forces chief, our leader President Mugabe and comrade-in-arms will romp to victory. We say so because we have no apology to make to any house nigger and puppets,” Gen Chiwenga said.”So much blood was shed and this has to be known by every Zimbabwean.”Gen Chiwenga said Zimbabwe’s interests came first ahead of anything else and the heritage and legacy left by the country’s ancestors should never be given away.He said the March 29 harmonised elections were marred by serious fraud masterminded by some Zimbabwe Electoral Commission officials sympathetic to the opposition.
Several election officials have been arrested and some convicted of fraud and tampering with ballots during the March elections.Gen Chiwenga said the visit by Lt-Gen Shalli had rekindled the spirit of the liberation struggle.”Your visit has been long awaited and anticipated. We are happy as ZDF. This is a meeting of friends and comrades-in-arms, former liberation fighters who now are still alive remembering those who sacrificed their lives for our two countries — Namibia and Zimbabwe.”He said the two nations should remain united and further strengthen the strong ties and defend the heroic sacrifices made during their liberation struggles.
“We hope and pray that this momentum we have established will be propelled to greater heights.”In response, Lt-Gen Shalli said Zimbabwean and Namibian forces should continue to cherish, enhance and explore new areas of co-operation.”We are here to strengthen the excellent relations between the two forces and continue to explore many new areas of co-operation,” Lt-Gen Shalli said.He said security forces in Sadc should work together for the development of the region and condemned the attacks on fellow Africans in South Africa which erupted last month.
“As a region, we are looking forward to regional integration. I still have hope that it will be the case, but there are things we have to do (such as to) educate our people. The xenophobic attacks in South Africa are a result of a lack of education,” he said.He said the violent attacks might have appeared like a small occurrence, they were a big regional security threat that needs to be addressed.Lt-Gen Shalli, who was accompanied by his wife and four other senior officials, had an opportunity to tour the majestic Victoria Falls.The Namibian delegation left Zimbabwe for Namibia yesterday morning at the end of their four-day visit
#93-98 you sound like headless chicken.pliz if are in Zambia leave immediately coz this is a serious issue which has affected innocent children and women.its like you want to challenge the thinking of my nation,pliz stop,leave.in Zambia we no longer entertain such reasoning,unless sick ones who are suppose to be treated immediately..am sure you are one of the people who even used to beat Zambians in the 80s.fortunately you are not my child,i could have hanged myself for having a fool.even bob’s kids am sure are normal and better than your uncle bob.
AS MDC-T’Tsvangirai seeks refuge in Dutch embassy, ‘will contest runoff’
ZIMBABWE opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai has sought overnight refuge at the Dutch embassy in Harare as unconfirmed news filtered in that he was backtracking on his earlier decision not to contest the run-off presidential election on Friday (June 27).Tsvangirai is still believed to be at the embassy in a move viewed by senior government officials as unnecessary and intended to attract attention from international media and the West
“The man’s cry-baby tactics have now become ridiculous. Who is after Tsvangirai? Everyone is busy preparing for the run-off election and he is busy trying to convince his international backers that he is in some danger,” said a Zanu PF official.“We knew this was a ploy to attract unnecessary attention.”It was not clear how long Tsvangirai intended to remain in the embassy building or why he chose the Dutch Embassy, but critics say the Netherlands was a strong supporter of the MDC-T party.Tsvangirai also seems to be backtracking on his earlier announcement that he was withdrawal from the run-off election as predicted by government officials.
He seemed to suggest to South Africa’s Radio 702 that he was prepared to contest the election if violence stops.“We are prepared to negotiate with Zanu PF but of course it is important that certain principles are accepted before the negotiations take place. One of the preconditions is that this violence against the people must be stopped.”Tsvangirai announced that he was withdrawing from Friday’s runoff election citing several reasons.The government of Zimbabwe said that he needed to put it in writing otherwise the whole electoral process will continue as scheduled.
Critics say Tsvangirai’s pull out discredits the electoral process and is proof that the elections will neither be free, nor fair.The Zimbabwe Electoral Commission said it was still looking forward to a credible electoral process on Friday.”I don’t believe that the level of violence in the country is such that a credible election is impossible. We don’t have a war. We will be able to hold credible elections,” ZEC chairman George Chiweshe told African election monitors in Harare.
#93-4-5 no wonder Africa is behind with people like you.if your wife thinks like you then your family is rotten.go wichdoctor.
am looking for a witchdoctor for you now. #93-4
Kunda,
You must be Rev.Dan Pule’s unclaimed illegitimate son out of his series of pygmy.
#110 you will be shocked that you are one of his sons.go for DNA.if you were one of my students i would collapse.if i teach you psychiatric, you will collapse.mental???? my boy
I think #93 etc was fighting in the liberation war and received serious brain damage
ex-Zanmbian i support you. this #93 is not needed in this time and age.he is not even worth a headless chicken,it will be an insult to it (mukolwe).
HAS ZAMBIA BY ANY CHANCE BECOME STRONGER 20 YEARS AFTER A LIBERATION PARTY?
I beat!Zambia has no stomach to handle the challenges her President is unwittingly being made to shoulder for an agenda he has neither a clue about or holds any hopes of his country’s future interests.
Least we fool ourselves, Zambia has no capacity to withstand a hostile liberation minded neighborhood with Angola’s MPLA in her NorthWest, Namibia’s SWAPO in her West, Mozambique’s Frelimo in the East, Regional Economic power house South Africa in the South, and the highly fragile Congo DR haboring all kinds of mercenaries of fortune available for hire along the longest and vulnerable borderline: from the Intarahwes to the Mai mai outfits.
Internally, Zambia has had to supress secessionists outfits too susceptible to some social engineering if need be to keep Levy busy for a long haul.Not a secret that Zambia’s defense has stunningly lost its capacity from frontline morale, hardware capcity to manpower battle ratio. While other regional countries have internal capacity in making and sustaining own battle supply lines, Zambia was made to destroy every capacity she had before chiluba. Her logistical capacity from the perenial fuel to operational ration are a challenge Mwanawasa is laboring to bump up.While her People’s poverty levels is at >80%.Million dollar question: Can zambia afford to take more than her challenges already a
Million dollar question:
-Can zambia afford to take more than her challenges already at hand?????
-Would Britain station her outfits on the Zambian soil for ever should the intability brow-up?
-Who are Zambian all weather allies that believe in Zambia’s approach?
-Has our President’s challenging leadership in SADC been doing us any good, building us friends or foes?
-Could we survive with emerging regional hostility and suspicious neighbors ever calling us moles of imperial errands in reversing agenda over our gains in the region?
-What tangible gains has Zambia achieved since we embrace the neo-liberal agenda to command moral authority?
-Would zambians rally around a flag in solidarity of results of a mishandle regional assignment?
-Do we have the capacity that we don’t know 20 years after leaving those ranks?
Do we have the capacity that we don’t know 20 years after leaving those ranks?
Do we??????
Excerpt from the BBC on the UN Security Council draft document, and hear what Mbeki is saying at the bottom.The statement says that “until there is a clearly free and fair second round of the presidential election, the only legitimate basis for a government of Zimbabwe is the outcome of the 29 March 2008 election”. South Africa, Zimbabwe’s powerful neighbour, is thought to want the draft Security statement watered down.
This Mbeki is an *****, why does he want to legitimise RGM’s hegemonic rule on the Zimbos. His take on the matter is the same as was his earlier one on AIDS. Come Mbeki think for the helpless pipo who are forced to face this harsh life.
useless mugabe!!
To make matter worse MDC’s withdrawal has been blacked out by the state media so only a few know about it and the election will go ahead. RGM will nick this with the slightest of majorities. This is so sick I tell u, its so wrong.
Muntuza,
I have no doubt that this Muntuza ***** is an ***** born of *****s who told him that the only word he should know about is his family idiocy which he should think everybody is an ***** just because his father, mother and himself are *****s.
All said and done, i still feel Mbeki and the rest of the SADC Presidents with an exception of President Mwanawasa are a big disappointment. Had they taken President Mwanawasa’s timely warning that Zimbabwe was a sinking Titanic, probably this nonsense going on in that country would have been avoided. What a good leader like President Mwanawasa sees while sitted, a poor leader like Presient Mbeki cannot see while standing.
Iam only happy that President Mbeki is assuming the Chairmanship of the
cont’d fronm #124
SADC in August 2008, much as he is the official Mediator in the Zimbabwe crisis. This combination of responsibilities will determine whether the man is indeed a political Maradona or just someone put in that office by former President Mandela and the WEST to harmonise the BLACK/WHITE relations in the name creating the so-called RAIN-BOW nation.
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INTERESTING POLITICAL QUOTES
“We are not going to give up our country for a mere X on a ballot. How can a ball point pen fight with a gun?’”
“the Losers’ Club—We can defeat them one and all.”
‘Operation Makavhoterapapi’, or ‘Where did you put your vote?’
Mr. Morgan Tsvangirai is under no threat at all from Zimbabweans and he should cast away these delusions … Zimbabwe is a peaceful country and this will remain so.
If an election can be held in Iraq, surely it can also be held in Zimbabwe
It is just an MDC media agenda that is calculated at hoodwinking Zanu-PF supporters into believing that there will be no elections. But, of course, they are fooling themselves as the party’s supporters are going to vote on 27 June.
We, at the same time, ask the Dutch embassy, if indeed he is there, to tell him to go home and enjoy [his] sleep and nothing will happen to him
If an election can be held in Iraq, surely it can also be held in Zimbabwe
pol dont bring your sickness to Zambian people.its better you keep your stupid reasoning.my Pres as chair was involved so its better to keep sick head to your family,thank you for wasting my time
mumba,
What stupid thing is Pols bring to you when by birth from father and father you have carried the idiocy in your bloodline?
mumba,
I ask you again, What stupid thing is Pols bringing to you when by birth from father and mother you have carried the idiocy now in your bloodline?
We do not need ZANU-PFication on this blog please spare us #129. Not all of us fall to this “Re-Colonisation” rhetoric you guys live by.How can you hold elections, when the other party cannot campaign? I guess you are one of the ZANU-PF loudmouths.Keep it to yourself, help it will help.And wish you all the best in your elections, as you think they are called elections.
This is why Mbeki is keeping quite about Zimbabwe, because everybody wants to be right in their own thinking. Most Zimbabweans pass little to no comments about the situation in their country, we on the other hand are as loud as monkeys in trees screaming at a snake on the ground. Mugabe is just enjoying all the publicity everybody is giving him lately…..everybody keep quite and see what happens!!!
african politics……that makes sense, why bother when no one even recognises Levy as the SADC chairman even mugabe too. he has ignored all calls to postpone the elections and he is going ahead. let them do it themselves. what can mbeki do if he has failed to control the situation in his own den. let mugabe rule till he dies, he loooks angry as he appears.
Some how I feel for Mugabe, but I DON’T SUPPORT his foolishness. He feels like he is being victimized after looking around on the continent of Africa. He sees no President who was genuinely elected, but selected. How come people want democracy in Zimbabwe and not in their own countries? Mwanawasa was selected by Chiluba, Mbeki by Madiba, the guy in Nigeria by Obasanjo, in Botswana the same, in Congo, in Tanzania, in North Africa they don’t even vote. Tsvangirai should have played the Mwanawasa ball. Get selected and turn around. Probably that could have worked. Politics. The sad part is the proud Zimbos are now beggars. Probably they should also come down to earth and never be too proud.
85 you are right. When Rhodesia was under Smith tabalelanda. You think now they are for you?
They want to set up a NEW WORLD ORDER Bob MUGABE is tanding in there way.With one finger they can destroy the economy of a nation, they own the international banks.
They are in control of the oil in the middle east angain IRAN is in there way.
In the name of PRIVATISATION and FOREIGN INVESTMENT they are getting the land of the nations slowly.
Soon we will be all there slaves (mark my words).CECIL RHODES was sponsored by them.You think you have indepenence?forget.
LPM and all his legal advisors seem to be legal illiterates on what the Zimbabwe constitution says on elections and the second run as now.
It clearly states that if one guy pulls out outside the stipulated time, this has no effect, the election goes ahead. Even if there is only one candidate following the withdrawal of the second fellow, the elction goes on.
Finally, LPM and the MMD have failed to undestand that ZANU-PF is a nationalist liberation movement. These guys did not get to die duering their Chimurenga so that the land could again be handed over to settlers the way LPM and the MMD have done to Zambia.
Personally, let Zimbabwe become what it wants to be.
In the END TIMES these things had to happen to fulfil prophecy.
Very soon a world leader(NEW WORLD ORDER)will come and chip very body on the right hand so that you can not buy or sell without the mark.
Mr Bair,Mr Bush and now Mr Brown are working very hard towards that agenda.
Imagine Tonny blair is now a MIDDLE EAST PEACE ENVOY.Remember this is the same man who started the war in IRAQ.Where are the WMDs?Wake up people.”It`s either you are with us or with the terrorist”They said.As for Mugabe is on the other side,hence these PLOBLEMS