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The Electoral Commission of Zambia (ECZ) has set September 23rd to 26th 2008, as dates for nominations for the forthcoming presidential by-elections slated for 30th October, 2008.

ECZ Director, Danny Kalale said, on the nomination dates presidential candidates, are required to present 200 supporters each, who should be registered voters.

Mr. Kalale said the presidential candidates would also be required have to pay a non-refundable nomination fee of K20 million.

He said aspiring candidates would be required to lodge in their nominations to the Chief Justice, who will be the returning officer at the Supreme Court, to validate them.

He noted that according to the law, only the President and the Vice President were allowed to use government resources during campaigns.

“Government officials willing to campaign for the party should use their own resources. According to the law, only the President and Vice President are allowed to use public resources,” Mr. Kalale said.

The official campaign period will commence soon after the filing in of nominations.

Mr. Kalale further disclosed that the commission would have the ballot papers printed in South Africa.

He said the commission was currently scrutinizing various tenders from South Africa.

He said all the political parties would be required to follow the electoral code of conduct and end their campaigns on the 29th of October, 2008 at 18:00 hours.

Meanwhile, the commission has set September 27th  2008 as the nominations date for the Ndola Central and Mwansabomwe parliamentary by-elections.

Mr. Kalale said on the same date, aspiring candidates for the 13 local government by-elections across the country would file in their nominations in their respective wards and districts.

He noted that the by-elections for the parliamentary constituencies and 13 local government seats will take place on the same date as the presidential by-elections.

And the commission as set September 12th to 26th, 2008 as dates on which Zambians who have lost their voters cards would register for replacements.

Mr. Kalale said the ECZ was currently in negotiating with Ministry of Education on the possibilities of turning schools country wide as registration centers for the acquisition of new voters’ card.

He said the commission would ensure that those who lost their voters card registered at the nearest school centre so that their cards could be ready and collected between the 20th  and the 25th October, 2008.

Meanwhile all the 72 districts in the country have received the transparent ballot boxes for the forth coming presidential by-elections.

Mr. Kalale said the commission had reached an advanced stage in delivering election materials in the various districts.

He noted that out of the K231 billion needed for conducting the elections, government has so far released K56 billion, adding that a further K93 billion was expected to be released by the end of this month to enable the commission prepare for the elections adequately.

Mr. Kalale said ECZ would strive to conduct free and fair elections, adding that to that effect, the commission would soon installing  generators and lamps in all polling centres to facilitate smooth counting in case of  power failures.

He added that FAX machines have since been distributed in the districts to enable the electoral officers transmit results to the commission as quickly as possible.

He added that the Mulungushi International Conference Centre (MICC) will be the final announcement centre.

209 COMMENTS

  1. You are talking about empowerment, how do you empower Zambians when you are giving contracts to South African companies. Director Danny Kalale is giving ballot printing contract to South African companies… Do you relize how much you are killing the Zambian industries. Is this the type of government we still want?

  2. #1, Soon Levy’s potrait will be replaced by his so get used to it.

    Its unfair that the law should allow the the president and vice-president to use public resources for campaigning bcoz that only leads to misappropriation of funds and little to no accountability. In addition, it only tempts them to channel the resources to their private purses. My advice to RB and team is NOT to dig dip in the foereign currency reserves when campaigning coz Zambians are still blighted by crushing poverty.

    RB, with public resources at your disposal, you cannot lose. Period!

  3. Danny Kalale last elections work for MMD he almost run away when he saw PF scoring more points, and now its his time to secure his job again. Zambians what counts are number, like we did in 1991, more votes for PF, whether RB has govement material or not.

  4. SO RB WILL HAVE PUBLIC FUNDING,THE REST SHOULD FIND THEIR OWN MONEY,WHAT NO SENCE IS THIS,AM I REALLY HEARING WITH MY EARS OR WHAT?

  5. RB is not the presdo. He is still vice presdo and he should not have the full powers of the presdo. I fill its wrong for him to use the public resources for campaigning. Where are the learned ones to advise this chap?

  6. what a head start for RB, minister of information is your campaign manager, tax payers money at your disposal. for PF are those Taiwanese businessmen still available?

  7. Ba #6 what they mean by resources is cars lodging and his personnel that he is already enjoying. I dont see anything wrong with that. Do you expect RB to aprk his official motorcade when campaigning? Bane Tule tontonkany before yaping.

  8. #9 YOU ARE RIGHT,WHATS GOING ON THEIR, HAVE THEY LOST THE MINDS,WHOSE MONEY DO THE THINK THEY CAN THROW AROUND LIKE THAT, BANDA IS RICH,HE MUST USE HIS OWN LIKE OTHERS, BAYAMBA MASOBELA FUTI,FIRST THEY INCREASED THEIR SALARIES NOW AGAIN,ZAMBIA USHE,ARE THEY EVER GOING TO BE PROGRESS?

  9. What a law!!!!!!!!!Can the NCC if ever it works amend this law and probably allow all presidential canditates to be given campain money or let their political parties fund the elections. And how much are they entitle to use? Meaning that the chances of the sitting government to lose is zero.

  10. iwe chi # 11 satana you don`t know what you are saying. This chap RB will now be able to use any aircraft for campaign,cars,money,etc and the govt will pay the bills. Mambala and also remember that the chap is not popular so he will have to go round the whole country. Its just too expensive.

  11. #1 thts funy..haha..nw printing of these balot paperz,we ar tod govt printerz dsnt hav a color mixer n the equipmt thy js bot..i rili wnda hw and why..then th ECZ chairperson person is justice florence mumba formely of the intnational court of justice,we ar al goin to c wat shs made off..

  12. The ECZ and kalale chaps are wrong.How the hell can we have a level playing field? if other characteres are using Governmrnt (tax payers funds) to cmpaighn eeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh nonsence!!!!!!!!!!!CRAP

  13. #11, your mind is very clouded, if you think that by using public resources they mean only logistics and personnel i wonder how you even filled that visa application form! YOU ARE SUCH A FONTINI WITH AN IQ OF A 12 YR OLD!

  14. Zoona ba Ponyanx zebiggie. Uyu #11 cipuba. Kwati taba ku America. Bamo abantu nangu muciteshani tabacinja. Limbi he is one of these who are appointed by the president.

  15. PF and UPND Put your resources together and boot out this man. He has the government machiery backing him, but the two opposition parties can fix him and his MMD if they work together otherwise KAYA.

  16. Everything seems surprising under RB. U were voting using nikuv cards from Israel, it was fine. In the last general elections, election materials came from South Africa, it was fine. Now that it is under RB that materials have to be acquired from South Africa, its an issue of debate.

    In all general elections, the law allowing the President and Vice President to campaign using state facilities was upheld. In the event that it is RB to use the state facilities, the law has to change.

    RB for President. I will vote for him because I want to see what people are afraid of. So far, no one has debated against RB in a way that convinces me he cannot make a good president.

  17. #19 well said. I’m busy looking for Sata and HH’s cell numbers. These two should team up otherwise they’ll be wasting their time. They appear to have eyes, but they can’t see; ears but they can’t hear; brains but they can’t reason together.

  18. RB is not a candidate that can only campaign in four provinces, and think that Zambia is only four provinces. PF, campaign in Southern and Northwestern if you are seriuos about winning elections. Otherwise, you will cry again.

  19. #24 I’m a Southener. Get it from me Sata can’t get any meaningful votes in southern province. What these chaps must do is merge. HH equally can not win in the Northern and Luapula provinces.

  20. Thinking about a merger has three weaknesses. One of them is that parties only come together when they realise they are weak. In so doing, they are only able to share weaknesses. Secondly, they have no profound basis for coming together other than a shared self interested desire to unseat the ruling party. Thirdly, history shows that no merger in Zambia has ever succeeded. Where is ZADECO or recently UDA. In fact, if UPND is to merge, why not reconsider UDA. In any case, which blind Zambian can vote for a merger that has no manifesto at all? Desperate people make desperate decisions.

  21. Ba Cinci Wababili ( Number 11) naimwebene muletontonkanya yama. Its not fair and democratic that ROBOT (RB)should be using public resources on the expense of tax payers. A democratic campaign ground should be well leveled. If you look at the poverty levels in Zambia, you will agree with me that ROBOT will surely take advantage of the poor by using resources that are not entirely his but for the poor people.

  22. NIPA NKOLOKO CHABE! oposition shall never RU this country unless theris 50 plus 1 Pecent. So my advise 4 u is 2 wait 4 new costitution. GO GO GO RB we are behind U.

  23. #23, Do not worry about where Sata will get the money from, what many pipo don’t know is that Sata is a consultant (I can’t remember in what) but you remember last time he come from SA with umundule of dollars from his consulting work, the man is a jack of all trades, if not he will go over to Malawi to meet the Taiwanese… Ni mubwato!

  24. #11 careful with the way u think,we know wat these MMD can do with such allowance to use public resources.NOW THANKS TO RB FOR RECRUITING THE TEACHERS,BUT SORRY BAD TIMIG,ARE WE GOING TO BE HAVING EMPLOYMENT ONLY DURING ELECTIONS? THE ANSA IZ NOOOOOOOOO.WE KNOW THIS CHEAP POLITICS AND WE ARE GOING TO VOTE WISELY.DAYS ARE GONE WEN PIPO USED TO BE FOOLED WITH SUCH,PIPO LETS REDEEM OUR COUNTRY FRM LEADERS WHO WANT TO SATISFY THEIR FAMILIES ON THE XPECE POOR ZAMIANS

  25. I voted for p f in the last general election and only to know that Satan misled me by thinking that levy was a cabbage just to know after his death that the man had a vision for this country. Countrymen and women its only MMD That has practically shown to ve good policies

  26. You see ba Zambia, I agree with # 28. It seems that you can only win elections if you have money. How do you expect an Independent candidate to stand against RB who has money flowing from tax payers. What a law. RB should step down as Vice during the time that he will be standing and face ama men that will be standing. Let the ground be leveled for all candidates. Imagine others will have to look for the K20m and yet RB will get it without having to spend anything from his pocket and I am sure not even from the MMD party money but the Nation’s money (TAX PAYERS). What a shame, if they do go through. Shemuna Shame ne debate bebele tantameni ma guys

  27. #30 What s up Sata will never go to Malawi again, so where is he going to use his boat to meet the Taiwan business guys.For your own information the zambian people can not allow him to meet them on any of the Zambian lakes.That s why he had a heart attact,the Taiwan business people want back there money.Who knows thats why he s now close to HH for funding.

  28. Don’t just dream here put your money to the talk.For a candidate to favorably compete in every province, district,ward,branch and section or community of 200 voters within the few days running out, a party need to have not less than ZK 20 billion at hand and 53 automobiles, 100 bicycles and many more campaign material and agents’s ration. They need to eat,bath, sleep and connect.Help you candidate.If anything even some chopper need be brought in in view of time. This is an expensive race that is not won by armchair talk shows in the cyber space where 95% have no voting right.

  29. #37, unless you can prove to us God did not forget to insert a brain your head by not being tribalistic please!

  30. Sata is stuck…. China and Taiwan are now on very good terms and the west also can not support him because of his link to Mugabe and his extremist ideas …The man has no vision, he should know that Zambia needs cooperating partners and foreign investors.

  31. Pastor J, this is not the time to be that shallow, read or get to sata’s website, learn to read. RB has no website because he is a cadre. without any legacy left for him ( RB ) he can’t rule, what a rubber stamp.

  32. I think when need a Leader who is 21st century compliant. A Leader with Knowledge,wisdom to take Zambia forward in this competitive Global village.

    VIA HH…………………………..

  33. RB will use public money to what!!! this is AFRICA bane. RB is not even president or vice president, he is acting president so how is he entitled to public funds. RB hasn’t got full powers of the president and we dont want him as the next president of ZAMBIA.

  34. # 46,

    Your ignorance is dangerously self demeaning.You mean never been even in elementary Government class not mentioning constitutional law? You must be a product of some Madrassa school where indoctrination of fantasy carries the day.So who takes and is suppose to take the daily state briefyings from defense and security wings? Who has the prerogative to commit the Country in advent of territorial aggression on our soil.Is it you, your Sata or Ichilema? Acquint yourself in fundamentals of statecraft to be relevant.Instruments of the state are in RB’s jurisdiction.

  35. so who is the vice president and am sure he is also entitled to public funds?

    “Electoral Commission of Zambia” director Danny Kalela please explain to us where in the Law does it say that? this chap is another thief we hav to watch out. this is the same chap that is contracting South Africn companies to print ballot papers and other election materials. yu mean we have no such a company in Zambia that can do that.

    i wonder why we have a chap like kalale as director of ECZ. just like the name suggest otherwise “watulo”

  36. # 39,

    You sound to have a clear mind socked in the Government and international systems. It takes a sixth sense to read some of these fundamental variables.Power politics is beyond armchair critics.You need to be a terrific navigators of the real politik to realize and hold your dream.Sata is absolutely just there to legitimize the MMD victory.Any vote for him or HH other than MMd is spoiled vote now and in 2011.

  37. ok ba pragmatist i think you and RB are in the same band wagon or boat. can u explain to us why RB is using the public funds under what powers?

  38. lovely people,good to have you around.you guys overseas n abroad are u goin kam vote?its th only way,u hv tht change u lukin forward to.

  39. Pleezi mwe bantu nitandizeni…the law that Kalale is talking about where can one find it?? Are there any lawyers in the house?? If they could just reproduce it (copy and paste) for us to read and know. Mr Banda has already started rigging…ni ma salary increaments yamene ba funa ba MMD. Sata and HH what are you doing?? Do you want to be beaten by Sakwiba Sikota and group?
    Mr Banda you also agree with such stupidity? Hope not.

  40. The ground can never be level.The massages that poured out has just revealed to many people how much has been done by MMD government in the passed 7 yrs.It prooved to many that LPM was not cabbage but a man with a vision.This has prooved that the opposition were either liars during the 2006 campaign or they were liars in their massages of condolences.Pazed people easily sympathise with abafwilwa.Bodyviewing around the 9provinces MMD already have an unfair advantage over the opposition.During the funeral the opposition said everything for and not against the late(who was MMD)having had said all that bakalanda finshi Ba Sata? baka pontele uwafwa nani akabomfwa?Lundenipo naGRZ fund iyo twafwa!

  41. Mwale Sajent you are out dated, LPM is dead, don’t you know that whats left are his ideas without a head. But you agree with me that nomatter how the cabbage looks one day it will die and decompose. Us that have remained, lets change for the better. Change is now its either Sata or HH, not RB without his own manifesto.

  42. Just as well, i thought ba pragmatist was a young and energatic person to help us young Zambian to change for our better future, Kanshi he is as useless as dead. But you keep coming out negative on developmental issues. Pliz if you have nothing to give Zambian stop your nosense contribution, which are just praises for MMD.

  43. If pipo have machines which can print money and certificates in their homes.Why can’t GRZ have machines which can print election material.Is kalale in partnership with these south africans company?

  44. Power is all the politicians dem after. But I man know seh power and glory belongs to de Most High. No one, no where can change this order!

  45. HH has welcomed Sata’s proposal to merge in order to defeat RB..The Post lead story. So it appears these men are listenning to you bloggers.

  46. CORRECT.LEAD STORY BEGINS:””The UPND has welcomed PF president Michael Sata’s proposal for the two parties to join hands in an effort to remove the MMD government from power in the October 30 presidential election. …””

  47. Thursday sept 11th post headline: UPND welcomes PF poll pact Proposal.
    News from Chililabombwe soccer, RB welcomed pa bwatoooooo.
    Uno mwaka umo alelila.

  48. LT whats with your blacklisting tuma hands after i posted info about Sata to those inquiring. This is public domain and thats what google is there for. Sata put up his profile and numbers with his email and thats what i passed on to those asking. I dont think this is right. Correct it.

  49. Tribes down, we all go for change Sata and HH lets go guys, whatever comes out will be for the good of the ordnary Zambian. Belive me, we all need this change time. Fyalawama ifintu lpa zed nomba.

  50. SURELY IF THE COBRA MERGES WIT HH,ONLY RIGING WILL GIV MMD VICTORY,FOR WHIC WE THE OWNER OF THIS COUNTRY WONT ALLOW,WE NEED TO RETIRE MMD TO GO ROT IN THE FARMS,BAIBA FYAFULA,

  51. All political parties taking part in presdential elections should some funds alllocated to them. No one party should use more of public resources. The nations governing laws should clearly state where such funding is coming from, the dates for elections and who’s ellegiable to contest. We should not have argurements every election time.
    I still commend the Zambian’s for the level of maturity exibited, however we have a long way to go. The constitution should delibarately be left vague to accommodate social dynamics for future posterity to deal with change.

  52. #50,

    Are you conversant or have you read the Zambian constitution?If not read and get back to me with questions.RB is now the Zambian Commander-in Chief with implied powers of the Executive office of the President.Within the constitution he will be using full state resources at his discretion.He will canvas the counntry city-city, district-district and chiefdom to chiefdom even bundle up some villages across the country for votes rallies-its constitutional.No place will be left out.He will use the Presidential Chopper,some escort ZAF choppers and a fleet of his official automobiles including speed boats where need be.His advance parties wherever will be 100% GRZ paid per statutory instru

  53. #72 Pragmatist, I suggest you find a job as lecture at UNZA, its a pit to find theorists doing such a job you have in America. Teaching on this blog will take you nowhere except end up look like “some-of-us”. Kulibwenesha is old fashion. Don’t you think 95% on this LT can research on their own. Leave us discuss logic and common sense, and express our feelings.

  54. Honestly how can such rubbish continue in the presence of 12 million or so people. This so called acting-president is having access to public funds while his opponents don’t. That already puts him at a clear unfair advantage. We are so backward and docile in our country.

  55. Pragmatist is a MMD cadre and his sarcastic language sometimes is left to be admired by those who can’t understand political correctness.Telling pipo armchair.I know him he is shushushu sponsored by the MMD. Brothers and Sisters dont listen to him, during the elections in 2006 he was abusive towards others.He can talk about all these advantages RB has but his own pipo/ relatives they are living below poverty lines, they have no access to health care,education, shelter, clean water just to mention a few.He doesn’t see any thing wrong. Billions will be coming from tax payers and those things Levy wanted to do will never by achieved. 300% salary increament. K5.6Billion p/year?

  56. Contd: Vote for MMD and dont cry for their plundering of your resources coz you know and their is no way RB will say no these crude and selfishness MMD. Teachers, nurses and other civil servant are getting K9,600.000 per year.What ashame.Vote for them and pay the price choice is yours.

  57. #75 u are rit about pragmatist,he is an MMD cadre who change nobodyz mind,yo RB in chililabombwe was greeted with a PABWATO slogan,wit the pact betwn HH and KING COBRA wil see,we want change,the TETAZ,VJ etc must go rot smwhere.

  58. I like the heading in today’s post. If UPND and PF join together, then MMD is no more. Thats the way forward. Let the two parties agree on terms and condition of their merger so that we kick out these thieves. Please HH and SATA, join together and save us.

  59. well well, this is our constitution. i think the constitution should be amended because its putting the other political parties at disadvantage. how can the president or vice president use public funds to campaign while the other parties are forking their own money.

    wheres the fairness in all this, come oct 30 MMD is going

    bane lets vote HH and Sata

  60. #83. Agree with u. But if only PF and UPND joined together, then we are home and dry. HH should be president and Sata will just guide him or vice versa

  61. Zambias way of doing things is not so good just from independence.How can it be that one candidate can be favoured among others.The constitution needs to be amended just after this elections we must find a smooth way of handling power when the incumbent president is unable to function.We are going for elections now what would happen if anything happened to the elected president just upon taking power?I supose when the president is elected the term of office is in the hands of the ruling part until its mandate with the people expires.How would an opposition president fit in another parts term.Only those that are selfish like Sata and in such as this he cannot have my vote.

  62. i thought the chap RB will step down after the date of election is announced.he was not a running mate,late Chief justice take over.the chap was picked @ the farm sleeping.why should he use the government resources?no,no,nono,no.Tentamashimba,vernon mwanga,roger chongwe,ba nervasiii mumba are all looking 4 a job.

  63. what happens to RB when he loses presidential elections? does he continue as VP or becomes an ordinary MP since he is nominated?

  64. #91 Luka stop dreaming in South Africa. Sata can make a big change in Zambia. so don’t say things that you dont understand.

  65. Marrage of convinience does not work in politics.with all due respect sata will lose some support by the pipo who dont like HH and likewise HH will lose support of pipo who like but don’t like sata and MMD will still benefit.It also shows like of leadership.You don’t have to marge one should just endorse the other and compagn.If both lose that will wipe them from national scene.I do not like MMD but this wil not get them out.

  66. # 19 its will not work if PF and UPND dont come together. Its a known fact. they just have to come together on this one. Sata called for a meeting to look at this one. Lets hope they and agree on how they will share positions. This is possiable only if the agree.
    My suggestion is Sata stands as president only for remaining 3 years cos of his age then he appoints HH veep. 2011 HH stands Sata steps down.

  67. To #2. Giving contract to Zambians will lead to selling of ballot papers. It is better this work is given to an outsider. Later you are the same person who is going to be complaining that there was a fraud in the elections. We are not yet mature and which company/contractor in Zambia can do the job properly?

  68. What is this pact I hear between Sata and HH? I hope HH realises that he is about to go to bed with a snake (they dont call him cobra for nothing).Ask Sakwiba Sikota how the cobra driblled him immediatetly he thot he was about to go to plot one. Similar pacts have resulted in bloodshed of innocent citizens in neighbouring countries. In Zimbabwe Mugabe hoodwinked Nkomo in the same way as sata is hoodwinking HH and the result was the killing of millions of ndebeles. In kenya Mwai kibaki enetered into a pact with other parties and agreed to hand over power after 5 years. Of course we all know how many kikuyus got killed this year when kibaki decided to run and rig the election.Take heed hh

  69. forks you seem to be so stuck with the Sata when you know very well know that the man is sick, no economic background or he has is rhetoric, his campaign massage is “low tax, more money in your pocket” how??? and how much money is more money??? The only way you can get more money in your pocket is by hard work and you can do it even now if you are a responsible citizen. This is a knowledge based economy gentlemen and we need an economic manager that is RB or HH. in 1996 you said levy is sick to govern, today sata is sick you are saying everybody gets sick. whats that? i hope its not tribalism which you accuse others of

  70. What is HH’s stance on Zimbabwe? I have Zambia go back on its position on Zimbabwe. That is what I am most scared of at the moment.

  71. The only way 2 win rb is 4 hh 2 jst back sata not even merging on condition that sata will step down in 2011 for hh 2 rule. The question is can sata honor the agrement?

  72. All the plans that sata or hh have will come to zero without power.so the goal of any political movement is to attain power(constitutionally of course).

    Couple of compromises are to be accepted and expected as long as the fundamentals are adhered to.And in any case are sata and hh really beyond finding common ground.

    In my opinion UNIP is the only party built on a philosophical base,the rest of the parties merely take on the character their leader.

  73. Teta put it plane that they should put RB because he had constitutional advantage over others and that is what they have done. Read papers guys.

    opposition can’t make it because they are not organised. Yes the best way is to merge PF and UPND but now the issue is who becomes a president? Someone has to pump sense into these two parties otherwise they are just wasting their money they wont win.

  74. Interesting to see how none Zambian tax payers have so much to say about this issue when we are busy paying taxes in foreign countries. We seem to be embracing anarchy just for selfish reasons. If the present government was that bad, why did people spend hours bidding farewell to a fallen hero? Government is not made up of one person. We all want the best for our mother Zambia but we also need to remember that when something is working give it time to bare fruit. We should not be obsessed by supporting individuals but instead concentrate on scrutinizing policies offered by these parties. We all knew from the start what the constitution states with regards to use of public resources…

  75. bloggers, aaah!! finished Danny has said the final announcement centre is Mulungushi , do you know that the shu shu shu intercept and change figures on the fax before printing it?

    unless if results are announced just at the polling station where all parties representatives are present and would have winessed the counting.

    then no guarantee of free and fair elction….

  76. THIS HEAD ON THE NATIONAL PORTRAIT,HMM,BANE AND THEN THE’THANDIWE BANDA COMMUNITY INITIATIVE’.IM GOING BACK TO THE VILLAGE.

  77. #30 you guy want to write for the sake of writing even on things you dont understand. Malawi cut off diplomatic relaions with Taiwan last year. Sometimes i wonder if PF followers are sane people at all.

  78. So does this law protect Chiluba for buying those MMD vehicles the supreme court ruled that were bought using public funds? This law should be revisited if we are to move forward. If Banda is a Man of Integrity he should be refusing some of these Laws as they are tantamount to stealing from the poor. He should also do away with the likes of corrupt people like Katele, VJ, and many who are surrounding him.I know he can’t because RB has no money and vehicles to use for his compaign since he was just driven by his sister when he was appointed Vice President. VIVA Zambian People let us vote wisely.

  79. Imwe,ths pact is a welcum,MMD has les than 30% suport,nw wth UPND ND PF,tht is more than 50%,majority.bingle we win,even if thy rig,nt ths time..

  80. … so why are we making it such an issue and diverting from real issues that will affect real people on the ground. We need to be serious in Zambia. Vote for parties that offer opportunities for all and not just a few. Why are we so quick to forget all the U-turns some of these politicians have been making? If an attempt to compromise Zambia was made whilst certain individuals where in opposition, what is going to stop them from doing the same whilst in office? Lets vote wisely and make ourselves proud to be Zambian.

  81. Guysbwith Bandas example expect all the OLD Fox to go for girls in 20s for the sake of feeling young. How does Thandi call Banda Husband, Sweety, Honey, Asiboyi or Abuye

  82. Much as I am for empowerment of our local printers/businesses, somehow I’m not too comfortable with entrusting them with printing the ballot papers, especially govt printers….you know, there could be a leakage somewhere and boxes full of stuffed votes could just start appearing from the blues, you know, being delivered in helicopters and all when the guy with the govt resources starts trailing…..sounds familiar??

  83. I agree with you # 103. It can only work if HH becomes President and not SATANA because this Sata may be able to force everyone to work extra hard but he is no economic manager. The man will not be able to manage what ever will be gotten out of our hard work because he has no trace of financial and economic management. I have seen and heard so much being said about him but i have never seen his educational background.

  84. HH AND SATA DONT WANT TO MERGE WAIT AND SEE HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE FLOGED BY MMD.

    FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION MMD IS RULLING PARTY AND YOU CANT JUST WORK UP AND WIN THEM.

    GUYZ WE HAVE ADVISED LETS NOW LEAVE THEM SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES SPENDING. AM ABOUT TO START SUPPORTING MMD SINCE HH AND SATA DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO WILL BE VOTING.

  85. #46 Read the article before commenting.Itis saying that only the vice Presdo and Presdo are entitled to use public resources during campains.Echo muponena ku sukulu.do not let us read rubbish

  86. Why cant kalele tell us the precise provision that states the president and the vice president can blow up public resources we are not stupid.

  87. #123 what is this talk about economic manager.Sata has a track record of not only being a good economic manager but also a flamboyant political manager.In short he is an allrounder.HH shuold first explain how he amassed his wealthy before we can think of giving him the Presidency.Period.

  88. I thought it had always been that no candidate should use Govt resources in the past and others where even petitioned for having won because of using GRZ resources. Now this Ka Dan Kalale is misinforming us so that he makes sure he does not lose his job. Can someone please enlighten me on this.

  89. You PF supporters can any one of you please give me the following information about Sata.

    Which Schools did he attend? What is Sata’s profession? Can we hav a name of any of his former classmates?.

    Sata has a very obscure background Like Chiluba, the first records existing of him are as a prisoner fjailed for theft.
    Please answe me

  90. Why should official campaign begin after nomination day when the date of elcetion is set? Already MMD is compaigning is this fair? Can some clarify this. PF+UPND is the only way we can sort out MMD. Please our PF&UPND leaders take this issue very serious if not we shall vote MMD.

  91. Dont get excited. Sata & HH both want to be President. Who will the boss. U cant mix a bemba fishmonger and a tonga bull. its like mixing water & oil. Its only possible under extreme heat and under high pressure. Sata wants to be the boss. HH is also big headed and equates having money to being a leader.

    RB has more wealthy/ money than HH

  92. 129 DKREK

    We dont need political managers we are not fighting for independence or liberation. We are looking for economic managers who understand issues.

  93. no 106 I agree with you. There is really not much difference between the parties that they jut become whoever is leading them. Sata now says he will work with the Chineses – isn’t that the basis of his support in the urban areas. So what now, will his supporters still back him? Was his decision based on the fact that Taiwan is now edging closer to China? As to his democratic credentials, lets not forget that he is the one who wanted us to put up with kafupi in perpetuity. If there is a pact between UPND and HH, it migth help in quelling some of Sata’s extreme, illogical and populist tendencies but I do not see it lasting long.

  94. Dont forget that in Kenya, Kibaki and Odinga came together to get rid of Moi but the pact fell apart leading to the blood letting that we saw in that country at the start of this year. To me a pact between UPND and PF is just another form of political prostitution and is in effect an admission of their weakness against the MMD. Yes UPND and PF might get a taste of power but what happens to ZAMBIA when the whole thing falls apart?

  95. 136 VINYAU

    You one of the few bloggers who sees things in reality.
    This country is too valuble and precious to be left in the hands of people who just want to soothe their ego’s like Sata.

  96. #134 yes we are fighting for independence,that is economic independence because our budget is heavilly dependant on donor funding.

  97. Danny kalale is a MMD, and the electronic transfer of elections is fake and cannot be relied upon.
    During the 2006 they change the software at zamtel before they announced, before that they went at ZNBC and commanded and threatened to fire the staff on duty if they did not comply with them. They told them to announce that MMD is leading, as they had their own figures. There after they to zamtel and did change the figures. At that particular time mwanawasa became very ill and flown to UK. Even this time are bound to change the softwares. The possibility of MMD continuing in power is there. They are blood thieves.

  98. PF and UPND have to combine their game. That is the only way they can make it as only MMD has the numbers to form a govt without another party. Sata only has 18 MPs (after ignoring the ‘rebels’) and UPND has even less. naimwe bamambala out of the zed shud vote on that day. Pabwato

  99. #1 WHEN YOU CLOCK 70 PLIZ SHOW US YOUR PHOTO. OR CAN WE HAVE RB’S PHOTO IN HIS 20’S OR 30’S SO THAT WE COMPARE IT WITH YOURS!

  100. #131 Ba Golyati.One doesn`t need to have a degree to be a president that is why even poor countries like Zed do not have that in their constitutions.

    You have got a Laptop or is it a work`s PC, you should know better. Abantu bamo, nelyobasambilila ubututu tabupwa!

  101. 137.Thanks. Sata should be examined on his record. He was number 1 bootlicker for kafupi, to the extent that he threatened violence including the threat of rape to those who did not support kafupi’s unconstitutional bid for a third term. He left the MMD, not because he disagreed with the party on ideology because Kafupi, whom he was bootlicking chose the late LPM over him. He has publicly supported Mugabae and has also said that if in power he would drop all charges against Chiluba. He now says that he supports Chinese investments – what has changed between 2006 and now? Is this the kind of pres we want in ZAMBIA? Sata WILL KILL OUR HARD WON BUT STILL FRAGILE DEMOCRACY.

  102. IS IT TRUE THAT THE MINISTERS WHO DID NOT SUPPORT RUPIAH’S CANDIDATURE FOR MMD TOP POST ARE ALREADY BEING THREATENED WITH DISMISSAL(TODAY’S POST)? THEN THE OLD UNIP VIGILANTE DAYS ARE BACK BANE.LETS VOTE WISELY ON 30 OCT.

  103. The reason why Sata lost in 2006 was not rigging on the part of MMD. it was just that Sata only campaigned in the urban areas forgeting the rural places. He does not seem to learn a lesson because he is still only concentrating in the urban areas where he already has a huge following

  104. 146 Ka Tona we expect since you that side to be a bit more civilised or sensible.Unless you are one of those who clean old muzungu’s bottoms and wheel them around in wheel chairs.

    If you read my postings there is no whetre ere i said to run a country you need a degree. But it is a fact and reality that the issues that affect countries today require a President with more that secondary school educatio to grasp. Decisions made need to be informed and not just populist.Like around the region and see the quality of presdos

  105. Just like the President & the Veep are entitled to Use Official transport & accommodation the playing field should be leveled.Sata & HH should also be given transport plus accommodated wherever they choose to campaign.Democracy demands that all parties involved are not disadvantaged.And Kalale should have explained`it properly . . . its not an endless supply of resources but just transportation & accommodation.

  106. #149, ba dudu, do not believe everything the post says. as you know, they openly supported Magande. Have you noticed that RB is not responding to anything they say?

  107. Those supporting Sata, its either you have very short memories or you just choose to ignore his short comings, hoping that they will disappear when he wins. Do you remember that Sata was the one who: (1)led thugs with pangas in 2001 by-election for MMD with nakawala(2)was at the fore-front for 3rd term for FTJ(3)carried K2bn in a brief case with mandandi & machungwa for MMD convention(4)was caught with over $50,000 cash at SA airport(5)lied to UK and the nation about losing his passport(6)promised to throw out all corruption cases(7)forced LPM to resign as Veep over corruption in FTJ’s govt(8)supported mine taxes & now is against them

  108. This is a big scandal to have RB in office.How do you direct min.of finance &energy to drop prices without his involvement supposing they do it differently and then prices go down,later on you discover an error who do you blame?Offcourse its RB.These ministries work together with presido bena tebeshibe icho balecita.Then why the whole zambia no color printer?Chinese m/c has failed to work.Shame..shame..shame…

  109. Let’s look at the RB’s and Sata’s preparation for the TOP job. RB has not prepared adequately and this is too heavy a position for him. On the other hand, Sata has been preparing for this TOP job since 2001. Who is more prepared between the 2? As for HH, I will comment later…

    Watch this space. Viva PF!!! VIVA SATA!!!!!Man of Action.

  110. RB should not use pubulic resources its wrong. why is that kalale is

    much in favour and has become like the spokes person for MMD during the election he always sideline with the ruling part.

  111. 154 UwaKWISANO
    Thank you, you have such a celebrated memory. You may wish to also note that it was Sata as Minister of Local government who diverted all the money for funding councils in Zambia to build the Merzaf project where he was getting acut from his friend the conractor George Memigas.That lac of fundinding created so much miserly to almost all the councils for several years.

  112. HH must not rush into this pact by trusting Sata. they need an agreement that will stand for the next three years and this is not easy unless they get a copy of what will be signed in Zimbabwe. Care by the time they agree it will be 30/10 and MMD will have gained momentum. By the way what name will they adopt for thie campain koz it they adopt one of the two (PF or UNPD) that will be the end of the other party. HH wake up what gurantee is there that you will win in 2011 with the help of Sata. He will make a lot of blunders such that we will lose confidence in both of you by 2011 and a new King will be born.

  113. I REALLY LIKE THIS! SO RB IS KIND OF A PSYCHOLOGIST,HE TALKS ABOUT CAMPAIGNING ON THE TRUTH IN MMD PARTY,AND ALMOST EVERYONE IS ALREADY HOODWINKED?WHAT TRUTH CAN COME OUT OF MWAANGA,MULONGOTI,CHITALA AND TETAMASHIMBA?NOW I SEE WHY SOMEONE USED TO CALLS US”STUPID ZAMBIANS”,AND ANOTHER SAID ‘MMD CAN RULE FOR 50 YEARS’,YET ANOTHER 2 YEARS AGO SAID,’ZAMBIANS EASILY FORGET’

  114. Perhaps we could learn from ‘ the snake charmer’ how he is managing with him.

    He has simply perfected the Art of ‘snake charming’.

    The one and only, the stupendous, magnificent ‘Dr Guy Scott’

  115. 116. CJO. UPND has not yet accepted the coming together. they have only welcomed the suggestion from PF. Let hope it works out.

  116. #154 cont..(9)was against chinese investment and now is for it(10)still thinks Mugabe’s style of leadership is the best for economical growth(11)in 2006 campaigned against LPM on the platform that he was sick and not fit to lead, yet he was also evacuated earlier this year(12)can’t even run his party in a democratic manner, no elections since it was established in 2001, after 7 long years. I rest my case!

  117. Imwe banthu Sata is not the type of person you can trust Zambia with. He is an un-predictable chancer who will only manage to take us back to the Kaunda way of doing things.

  118. 157 xenophobia
    Observe RB Preparation compared to Sata
    RB was studying economis when Sata was in prison for theft
    RB was ambassador to London When Sata was a constable
    RB was Foreign affairs minister When Sata was a hustler
    RB was General Manager Namboard When Sata was an esttate agent
    RB was owning ALEN WEST,Robert Hudson and James north big companies when Sata was owning a small city advertising employing 5 people
    RB was Munali MP for 10years while Sata was a ward councilor
    RB was chairperson of Bola Bola supporters of kk eleven While Sata RB while Sata was lending kaloba
    RB was become Senoir Govonor for Lusaka While Sata had just been an ordinary Govonor

  119. #164

    The hyena unconciously collaborates with the Vulture when a Lion has made a kill.

    The vulture and Hyena are naturally born enemies.

    The collaborate with self interest, not mutual interest.

  120. #151 Ba Golyati mulibapuba. Look at your posts your retard (131). Typical African. Even when they have said something they will turn round and say I didn`t say it. You don`t know who you are talking to. All Zambians you see work notukote. Ho fickle but then I am not surprised looking at your posts and the calibre only shows.

    Bamwine mentality! You “tool”

  121. If anyone is still backing Sata after all that has been said, please state your reasons with reference to the issues raised by Uwakwisano and others. And show us the good side of pycho matta

  122. #129 be specific dont just say track record. share with us where Sata managed a countrywide financial or ecopnomic venture or any related qualificatio.RB was at the helm of NAMBORD the most successful grain marketing authority Zambia has ever had and destroyd by chluba n sata regime, HH successfully manage a renowned international Audit firm where he later became a partner and its still auditing governments and private institutions.both these two guys have degrees in economic or financial dicsiplines.Other than being a landload in avondale tell us about Sata

  123. The hyena when hungry can eat its own kind. Individual self interest and self preservation at the expense of everything else is the chief characteristic of the Hyena.

  124. I think the law ought to change to allow all contestants to have funding from the government. There should be a constitutional ceiling on the amount each candidate can receive from the government. There should also be an option for candidates to refuse government money so that they can then raise as much money as possible for their campaigns. Those using government resources should be limited and not allowed to get any extra funds above the legal ceiling. This will ensure a level playing field because as the law stands, the incumbent is at a distinct and unfair advantage. What do other bloggers think?

  125. #161

    What guarantee is a piece of Paper? This is dog eat dog staff. It is survival of the fittest. The Hyena can eat its own offspring when too lazy to catch a high flying gazzel.

    Dont be so naive my dear.

  126. #173 I’m leaning more to HH….I feel we need, as he put it, accelerated growth and everything about him seems to show he would make a great presido. RB, to be frank has not convinced me…he’s a good man and that might be his biggest problem, he might be too kind, letting all the vultures surrounding him, ready to strike. He needs to show me that he is his own man, and not Katele’s, Teta’s, VJ’s and all…He must overhaul his campaign team, tell us that the increments won’t be signed and must open UNZA next week….then I might think about voting for him

  127. The expenses involved in this campaign is enough to break someones backbone.

    Now, those that had a chance to withdraw in time and were labbelled cowards are now just watching from the terraces.

    Those with money lets go!

    Everything is in place from my village, let the goods come.

    There is no going back at this stage.

  128. #168 GOLYATI…You must be very dull with a small brain like a DODO bird, how do you think the man has managed to make his billions? go to his wab-site and see the man’s profile b4 you start baking anyhow.. infact he has achieved alot politically than RB…i wonder if you even own anything that use fuel to know the price of gas.
    Do you know that the same RB and his friends want they allowances and salaries increased while you and i go home a slavery wage.. think again my friend!!!!!!

    N-way he is talking to HH…..good lucky guys.

  129. Batila upanfiwe ewisula icibi, PF is the one pushing for an electoralm pact with UPND because they realise how popular HH has become both at the CBP and Lusaka not mentioning those other places like NWP, WP, CP and EP where HH performed reasonably better than Sata. Sata’s strength has always been the Copperbelt and Lusaka and that is where he is slowly losing grounds no wonder he has been seriously pushing for a pact with UPND. I don’t think Sata is asking to be President so that HH becomes his vice otherwise it is a waste of time because UPND can go it alone. I know that why HH has welcomed the proposal is because the proposal looks reasonable with Sata willing to be Vice.

  130. Blogers please educate me on this issue of “acting president”
    is it constitutional or they have just inposed it on this RB man?
    So we have gone back to the old ways of doing politics already RB is more on the advantage than the oposition.
    This is the man with NO mandate from any Zambian how unfair can this be.
    RB sorry but not so sorry I DONT LIKE YOU. I feel you are just a chancer.” into lele fye guy” go back to chipata.

  131. #168 – Golyati: I believe you have your facts wrong. Please reasrch before misleading the forum. I f SATA was just a mere Governor, what was William Banda? The council is near. Phone them so that they can update you.

    Thanks #181. Golyati is lost in wilderness. He needs diliverance, and only UBWATO can come ti his aid.

    VIVA PF! VIVA SATA!!!! ABASH RnB!! ABASH MMD.

    Governments need to change to ensure development, otherwise maintaing the same Government breeds complacency…

    Watch this space….

  132. Let us respect our constitution the way we have done over the bye-election issue concerning ‘within 90 days’ elections.
    RB is entitled to resources as per constitution, why do you want the constitution to change to suit your desires?
    Let RB use national resources freely.
    Mwandi RB, just go ahead and use the reources, you are entitled – nothing wrong.
    Let us abide by the constitution!

  133. #185, Even if your RB uses Tax Payers money for campaigning, it all lies on the voters, if we dont want him we can always get his chitenge and cooking oil, come voting, ni PABWATO. Am even looking at my Voters Card and come the day ni PABWATO!

  134. KENNETH KAOMA MWENDA, AGE 39, Title: Senior Counsel, Legal Vice-Presidency, The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA Has previously served as Senior Projects Officer, Financial and Private Sector Development, Europe and Central Asia Vice-Presidency, The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA. Dr. Mwenda joined the World Bank on the highly competitive Young Professionals Program. Among his many qualifications, he holds the following credentials:
    Senior Executive Leadership Program – Georgetown University,USA
    Executive Leadership Program-Cornell University, USA
    LLD, Rhodes University, South Africa, 2008.
    PhD in Law from University of Warwick, U.K.
    MBA in General Management from the Hull University, U.K.

  135. #51 i do agree with you that the Zambians abroad should come and help us vote because VJ is on the scene and rigging will be done so united we stand divided we fall lets do it for mother Zambia.and as for #187 is this Mr Mwenda interested in leading Zambia one day?

  136. I tell you that it will now be very difficult for the MMD if what unza monk has is true. unza monk, can you confirm your facts, how did you get it considering that you are not in Zambia? Did somebody who was listening to Sata on sky fm tell you or you head it yourself? If so how?

  137. according to the Zambian constitution section 76,RB does not qualify to be president because he was born in Zimbabwe,only some zambian puppets will vote for RB.

  138. #84 UBUNTUNGWA MU ZAMBIA, They wont be any vacancies for job-seekers like yourself even if HHSATA pact succeeds. The problem is you have a brain of a STILL-BORN BABY so you don’t think and just flow with the wind.

  139. # 192 DEPROT HIM THEN BEFORE HE BECOMES PRESIDENT. IN ALL FAIRNESS,WHY IS IT COMING NOW AFTER MISLEADING THE PEOPLE THAT HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON FO THE POSITION. TOO LATE MWANA
    JUST VOTE FOR THE ONE WHO YOU THINK IS ZAMBIAN ACCORDING TO YOUR DEFINITION

  140. Which law in the Zambian constitution is this liar referring to? Can some one please show me chapter and verse wher the law allows us to be raped while we are watching?

  141. ala bane tuvotela ba sata.we want jobs in our country so we can come back pliz napapata.we need development in the zed
    viva Sata/HH pact

  142. rb if he realy wanted to save zedians he would not have accepted the saraly increament for the menisters he will be the waste president that zed has ever had i was going to support MMD if magande was electd president of MMD we dont know RB wawo abashi RB viva opportion

  143. GOVT MONEY IS SO SWEET CAN THE GOVT MMD TELL US HOW MUCH THEY HAVE SPENT UPTO DATE IT WAS LEVY’S BURIAL AS PART OF CAMPAINING GOING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND NOW usING government resources during campaigns BLUNDERS PEOPLE ARE STILL SUFFERING MIND YOU!

  144. Why should MMD use my money to campaign so that maybe after winning, they can increase their salaries & allowance? Honestly speaking I am not pleased to finance these crooks. These chaps betrayed Levy. Whilst he was bed ridden they we busy scheming to increase their salaries. When he past on they quickly opened a State Funeral account all becoz they didn’t want to touch the treasury for fear of depleting it hence denying themselves increments later on. They are crooked. Zambians why do u think VJ is back – MONEY. Sorry but RB is out of touch with reality. He was busying dozing yesterday instead of watching Zambia beat Togo. This man will be sleeping whilst the Kateles are sharing the loot.

  145. Hey guys the MMD should go!!!

    Gallon(s) 1.00
    Litres (equivalent) 3.79

    PRICES OF FUEL
    USA UK Zambia RSA
    Cost per gallon US$ 4.10 8.92 10.06 5.20
    Cost per Litre US$ 1.08 2.36 2.66 1.38
    Cost per Litre Kwacha 3,791 8,246 9,300 4,812

  146. Optimist if you want to make sense of your comparatives, they should all be in like units. How can you have gallons, dollars and kwacha’s as one comparative?

  147. kaunda saw light at the end of the tunnel – only it was a speed train coming head on to smash the zambian economy

    chiluba saw how sweet power was – but the zambians wouldnt let him stay any longer

    mwanawasa promised us that the law would visit us – but the grim reaper took him too soon

    and now we have RB pursuing LPM’s vision – because he lacks one of his own

    Twacula.

  148. Firstly, kalale, you dont even know wheather we are going to have presidential elections or by general election. Secondly you were cuaght with ballot boxes at the air port last elections we had in this country. Thirdly, which part of the constitution states that president and vise are empowered to use governmet resources. Mwanawas sold us to the chinese bcos he got billions from them foe compaigns and we are still paying back. Dont be funny reality will catch up with you soon.And lastly you bought equipment for government printers to print ballot paper and now you tell us the cant print colour. What exactly are you upto you un geatfull bastered. Please spare us. Makaka, mbulwa amano.

  149. Sata is the tribalist. He conducts all his campaigns in Bemba. Who is the tribalist, then between him and Hakainde and RB? The man cannot even speak English.

  150. #204 Aha ba ZambiamyhomeZambia mulicipuba. One wonders how you even found yourself in the US. Chances are muli one of those who go at all costs. So imwe ukalanda icingeleshi ninshi ninshi ukuba president? The French should be using English then, the British French. Mwecinangwa mwe.

  151. RB is winning and if you don’t like it you can f*ck yourself
    its as simple as that
    he will be the next president of the republic of zambia

  152. if RB did not qualify to stand then ECZ would never have allowed him to contest in the 1st place.

    i know what the constitution says but he managed to get around that clause in a LEGAL way.

    you can hate all you like but RB is going NOWHERE but state house.

    say some educated sh!t on this blog i beg you, do some research before you start polluting us with your bullsh!t grade 3 reasoning

  153. HH, pleasee go it alone as UPND. We are sick and tired of these political marriages of convenience. Please, speak to Maureen Mwanawasa(for she knows what late LPMwanawasa had as a vision for Zambia) and see if she can be your Veep when and if you (HH) will win the 30th Oct 2008 elections. The rest of the Cabinet can be kept for a while accept RB whose nomination should end when and if you (HH) take over as President , and then you will replace the remove the non-performing current-Ministers with UPND officials with time as they will mis-do things the UPND and possibly Maureen Mwanawasa way.

  154. #207 how do you tell that RB is heading state house before Zambians cast their vote? are you telling us that MMD is again going to play their rubbish game? You’re stupid.

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